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Utah Utes football: Team now No. 7 on BCS list
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GOOD PLAN | 12:50 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
Your right - I would love a yearly WAC Mountain West PLay off would rock and how
could the BCS deny that the winner of that playoff should not be in. Clearly
the winner of a playoff between the two would be worthy of the Great and
Powerful BCS
Big Joke | 1:24 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
Utah has never beaten a team that was ranked in the top 10 at the time they
played them or who finished the season in the top 10. At best, they've
beaten #10-25 teams at Utah or #20+ teams on the road. Beating BYU doesn't
count since they are also MWC and therefore suspect.
Where do you guys get off thinking you are world beaters when you consistently play such weak competition???
Where do you guys get off thinking you are world beaters when you consistently play such weak competition???
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Fraud | 5:04 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
BCS is a fraud, no matter how anyone looks at it. Let's have a legitimate
playoff system that gives a fair shot to anyone, regardless of conference.
National Championship | 5:58 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
Why isn't anybody talking about Utah in the National Championship? They
computers have them ranked #4! The human polls have the Utes at #8... huge
difference.
The human polls should have Utah ranked ahead of USC now. Their schedules are comparable, and Utah is undefeated and beat Oregon State who beat USC.
With Oklahoma playing Texas Tech and Alabama playing Florida, two of the teams ahead of Utah are guarenteed to lose.
I'm not saying the Utes deserve to be #1/#2 right now, but they should be in the conversation. Unfortunately the conversation ends at #6 USC and never moves to #7
The human polls should have Utah ranked ahead of USC now. Their schedules are comparable, and Utah is undefeated and beat Oregon State who beat USC.
With Oklahoma playing Texas Tech and Alabama playing Florida, two of the teams ahead of Utah are guarenteed to lose.
I'm not saying the Utes deserve to be #1/#2 right now, but they should be in the conversation. Unfortunately the conversation ends at #6 USC and never moves to #7
Matthew | 6:09 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
My Utes are rated too high. They ought to be somewhere near 12 (so should
Boise). That's all they need to get to the BCS, and then if they drew Texas
or Oklahoma, it wouldn't look so bad if they didn't do so well. A loss
hurts momentum (and recruiting)more when it appears that a team should have done
much better (look what happened to "No. 8" BYU in the polls).
It's not that I have "no" in my heart, it's just that I really don't think the Utes could beat all but 6 teams in the league if they played this week. Baby steps are appropriate. It stinks that outside forces are giving them more than they asked for.
It's not that I have "no" in my heart, it's just that I really don't think the Utes could beat all but 6 teams in the league if they played this week. Baby steps are appropriate. It stinks that outside forces are giving them more than they asked for.
Nice gesture | 6:53 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
on the part of Kyle and the team handing out pizzas to students waiting in line
overnight for tickets to the BYU/Utah game.
SDSU will be little more than a tuneup for Utah before the showdown next week.
The rise in BCS ranking, though nice, is inconsequential at this point. Utah doesn't stand a chance of getting into one of the top two spots to play for the national championship, and Boise State doesn't stand a chance of passing Utah in the BCS standings as long as Utah wins out.
Utah's best scenario for winning their BCS bowl is facing the winner of the Big East or ACC. They won't stand much of a chance of beating USC, or any of the teams from the Big 12 or SEC.
SDSU will be little more than a tuneup for Utah before the showdown next week.
The rise in BCS ranking, though nice, is inconsequential at this point. Utah doesn't stand a chance of getting into one of the top two spots to play for the national championship, and Boise State doesn't stand a chance of passing Utah in the BCS standings as long as Utah wins out.
Utah's best scenario for winning their BCS bowl is facing the winner of the Big East or ACC. They won't stand much of a chance of beating USC, or any of the teams from the Big 12 or SEC.
Hold On | 7:01 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
The BCS needs to be dismantled! Playoff football should determine a Champion.
It's time for a change, just as in our government its time to change and
the fans should be able to vote either for or against the BCS.
GREAT PLAN | 7:14 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
I also like the idea. But we have to remember that there is nothing in it (this
plan) for the BCS. We would have to give a portion of the revenue of this
playoff to the BCS conferences in order for them to entertain the idea of
including this champ in the BCS Bowl Series. The BCS prostitutes itself.
That's just who they are. REMEMBER?
BAD, BAD idea | 7:29 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
The BCS Conference Commissioners could care less about a 'playoff'
between two conferences outside it's current structure. They would laugh
and laugh. All your idea does is keep a MWC/WAC team from contending for the
BCS, as it reduces their overall BCS % and knocks them down the rankings
farther. Especially in a year like 2008, where 3 teams have been in or near the
top 15. And sharing the BCS money ($17.5 mil this year) with TWO conferences
instead of one makes it $0.9 mil per team in each conference instead of $1.9 mil
per team. Ultimately, the conferences (WAC, MWC) would never agree to this, as
it reduces their already slim chances of getting this money by half. Sorry, but
it'll never happen.
TCU would have been better | 7:37 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
TCU gave away the game to the Utes. The MWC would have been best served by TCU
representing us. They have the best team in the conference. The Utes are too
spotty offensively, and the Y has multiple problems (speed, defense,
Bronco's interviews). If the Y wins, Boise State goes in and we get
nothing. I also like the WAC/MWC play-in.
BCS Hunting | 7:54 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
Utah finishes the season at #135 (Sagarin ELO-CHESS) SDSU, and vs #27 BYU.
BYU finishes at #34 Air Force and at #4 Utah.
TCU finishes vs #34 Air Force.
Boise State finishes at #136 Idaho, at #68 Nevada, vs #76 Fresno St.
If Utah wins out, they'll stay about the same in the computer rankings, but rise a little in the human polls, to 4th or 5th in the BCS standings.
If BYU wins out, they'll rise considerably in the computer rankings and in the human polls, to 10th or 11th in the BCS standings.
If TCU wins out, they'll rise a little in the computer rankings, a lot in the human polls, to about 11th or 12th in the BCS standings.
If Boise State wins out, they'll drop in the computer rankings, but rise a little in the human polls, to about 7th or 8th in the BCS standings.
Bottom line: Utah needs to win out, or Boise State needs to lose (at Nevada probably) for the MWC to get the automatic BCS bid.
Ball State will lose one of their final two games.
BYU finishes at #34 Air Force and at #4 Utah.
TCU finishes vs #34 Air Force.
Boise State finishes at #136 Idaho, at #68 Nevada, vs #76 Fresno St.
If Utah wins out, they'll stay about the same in the computer rankings, but rise a little in the human polls, to 4th or 5th in the BCS standings.
If BYU wins out, they'll rise considerably in the computer rankings and in the human polls, to 10th or 11th in the BCS standings.
If TCU wins out, they'll rise a little in the computer rankings, a lot in the human polls, to about 11th or 12th in the BCS standings.
If Boise State wins out, they'll drop in the computer rankings, but rise a little in the human polls, to about 7th or 8th in the BCS standings.
Bottom line: Utah needs to win out, or Boise State needs to lose (at Nevada probably) for the MWC to get the automatic BCS bid.
Ball State will lose one of their final two games.
Realistically... | 8:05 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
Realistically...the Utes were LUCKY to beat TCU. TCU beat themselves...missed
field goals, penalties. They outgained the Utes about 2-1. I'm glad Utah
won, but Utah had better keep being lucky, because they don't look that
good on offense. Their defense looks solid. Special teams are good. But they
only have one real game left...so a BCS berth is within their reach.
Back in Red | 8:07 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
What is the next best thing about being 10-0, 11-0 against a pathetic San Diego
State team.
Re: Good Plan | 8:10 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
Obviously I would prefer an automatic bid to the BCS for the Mountain West, but
since that is not likely to happen, at least for several years, I think the one
game playoff is a great idea. It seems that the WAC has figured out that the
road to a BCS game is as simple as playing a powder-puff schedule, and winning
out. Nothing against Boise State, but there are 3 MWC teams that deserve a BCS
game more than they do, yet they are the most likely to get one. I would love
to see Boise State prove themselves against BYU or Utah this season.
Ute Fan | 8:11 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
This is an automatic win for us saturday so we'll at least share the
title.
Go Utes!
Go Utes!
Vegas Ute | 8:20 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
Sounds like a great plan....... if your in the WAC.
It appears that since Utah broke into the BCS, after this year, things will have played out pretty evenly.
Even with a national 8 game playoff somebody would be on the fringe or left out.
If we had 32 teams a playoff would be great, but with 119..........please. Somehow,somebody will always be left out who's fanz think should have got
in.
Look at the Big 12 South. Possibly 4 of the top 10 teams in the country come that one division of a conference.
I think the WAC should find better competition to play, and that would take care of their problem.
Much as I hate to say it, I like the controversy of the current system. If you understand the BCS ranking system it's not that far off reality. Most people have a problem with the computers.
Maybe the WAC can have a playoff with Conference USA..........I hear there is another 10-0 team over there who is looking for credibility.
It appears that since Utah broke into the BCS, after this year, things will have played out pretty evenly.
Even with a national 8 game playoff somebody would be on the fringe or left out.
If we had 32 teams a playoff would be great, but with 119..........please. Somehow,somebody will always be left out who's fanz think should have got
in.
Look at the Big 12 South. Possibly 4 of the top 10 teams in the country come that one division of a conference.
I think the WAC should find better competition to play, and that would take care of their problem.
Much as I hate to say it, I like the controversy of the current system. If you understand the BCS ranking system it's not that far off reality. Most people have a problem with the computers.
Maybe the WAC can have a playoff with Conference USA..........I hear there is another 10-0 team over there who is looking for credibility.
Big Joke - LSU/Bama | 8:42 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
The discussion really ought to be broader than this.
Big joke suggests that the all high and mighty SEC or other eastern conferences are just brilliant. Please. If you watched the LSU - Alabama game this weekend you saw the number 1 ranked team in the nation barely slip past a number 6 LSU that (granted, Lee is not the first string quarterback) couldn't make a pass to save its life. Yet Bama couldnt' take advantage. Both defenses only appeared strong because of their inept offenses. It was a race to the bottom on both sides.
Now, that might just have been a single game. But anybody watching with a knowlege of football knowns either team would have lost to a Boise State that day (just as an example). And there it all ends... anymore, on any given Saturday, any team in the top 25 might beat any other team.
That's why only a playoff system will work. The eastern conference schedules being so tough - that's just a bygone perception.
Big joke suggests that the all high and mighty SEC or other eastern conferences are just brilliant. Please. If you watched the LSU - Alabama game this weekend you saw the number 1 ranked team in the nation barely slip past a number 6 LSU that (granted, Lee is not the first string quarterback) couldn't make a pass to save its life. Yet Bama couldnt' take advantage. Both defenses only appeared strong because of their inept offenses. It was a race to the bottom on both sides.
Now, that might just have been a single game. But anybody watching with a knowlege of football knowns either team would have lost to a Boise State that day (just as an example). And there it all ends... anymore, on any given Saturday, any team in the top 25 might beat any other team.
That's why only a playoff system will work. The eastern conference schedules being so tough - that's just a bygone perception.
RE: Big Joke | 8:43 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
Your right, the big east, acc, and pac 10 are far better. When was the last time
any of these conf. were any better than utah, byu, tcu, or boise. Mtn west
needs to add boise and Fresno and they have a top 3 or 4 conference every year.
Western Man | 8:50 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
Any team that is able to break the mighty BCS mold and get in deserves some
credit. I think all of us in the WAC and Mountain West would agree that the
system is flawed and needs to be in a constant state of evolution. Picking
sides and coming up with exceptions like Big Joke stated doesn't help the
case. A united front by both Mountain West and WAC contenders may put more
pressure on the have's by us (this year it happens to be Boise State and
UTAH) who are the have nots (that includes both BYU and UTAH!)
Fred Smith | 8:54 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
RE: Big Joke | 1:24 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
I would base that on the BCS rankings..
I would base that on the BCS rankings..
To Big Joke | 9:01 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
I hope you are not a Boise State fan and suggesting that you are all that. Your
tradition stretches back , what, maybe 6 years? Play another decade or two and
we can talk then. This is coming from BYU fan and a U grad. Both of which have
many, not just two or three, significant wins. SHHHHHHhhhh....Adults are
talking.
Saddled | 9:10 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
I just hope the Utes, (assuming that they make it, and they will) don't get
shafted with an ACC or Big Least team, so we can see if they really do belong.
It's been a fantastic ride!
GO UTES!! Thursday was one of the best College games of the year!!
Oh and BTW Every conference has their weak sisters! The MWC has had a great year!
GO UTES!! Thursday was one of the best College games of the year!!
Oh and BTW Every conference has their weak sisters! The MWC has had a great year!
Get over it | 9:20 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
The fact that the yewties beat OSU who beat USC means nothing. What are you
going to say when the mighty cougars beat your yewties? Will that mean that they
are better than TCU and USC?
Also, the yewties are frauds. They have only legitimately won 7 games. The other 3 were lost by the opposing team due to mistakes. This is unlike what the mighty cougars did against teams with last minute drives (not second chance drives), blocking field goals (not missed field goals), etc. etc.
Look out yewties, the mighty cougars are coming. They will score on your "vaunted" defense. TCU has them well prepped. BYU is not the least bit concerned about the yewties hapless offense. Your Crowton-wannabe OC will surely screw this up for you.
Final Score:
BYU 42, Utah 12 (all field goals)
BWA HA HA HA
Also, the yewties are frauds. They have only legitimately won 7 games. The other 3 were lost by the opposing team due to mistakes. This is unlike what the mighty cougars did against teams with last minute drives (not second chance drives), blocking field goals (not missed field goals), etc. etc.
Look out yewties, the mighty cougars are coming. They will score on your "vaunted" defense. TCU has them well prepped. BYU is not the least bit concerned about the yewties hapless offense. Your Crowton-wannabe OC will surely screw this up for you.
Final Score:
BYU 42, Utah 12 (all field goals)
BWA HA HA HA
beware | 9:29 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
I hope you guys get what you are hoping for.
I hope Boise and Utah both get good BCS bowls and get to play good, ranked opponents (SEC, Big12)
I believe if that happens it will be Hawaii-Sugar Bowl all over but hopefully not.
If they get slaughtered I most hope it shuts people up for a year (fat chance)
The BCS envy and whining about not getting due respect in the polls is soooo wearying.
Be aware, however:
It really is impossible to compare teams without overlapping opponents very well. MWC/WAC tend to measure themselves against Pac10 and that is (always but esp this year)a faulty guide. There is no substitute for week in and week out playing tough opponents. When you watch two SEC or Big12 teams struggle with each other it is tempting to say you could do better but that is a misleading impression. The proof comes in Bowl games where 3-4 loss SEC teams chew up 2 loss teams from weaker conferences.
You should look at the Oklahoma-TCU game as a hint of what a BCS bowl will be like for WAC/MWC.
Hope I'm wrong.
Beware, sometimes you get what you wish for.
I hope Boise and Utah both get good BCS bowls and get to play good, ranked opponents (SEC, Big12)
I believe if that happens it will be Hawaii-Sugar Bowl all over but hopefully not.
If they get slaughtered I most hope it shuts people up for a year (fat chance)
The BCS envy and whining about not getting due respect in the polls is soooo wearying.
Be aware, however:
It really is impossible to compare teams without overlapping opponents very well. MWC/WAC tend to measure themselves against Pac10 and that is (always but esp this year)a faulty guide. There is no substitute for week in and week out playing tough opponents. When you watch two SEC or Big12 teams struggle with each other it is tempting to say you could do better but that is a misleading impression. The proof comes in Bowl games where 3-4 loss SEC teams chew up 2 loss teams from weaker conferences.
You should look at the Oklahoma-TCU game as a hint of what a BCS bowl will be like for WAC/MWC.
Hope I'm wrong.
Beware, sometimes you get what you wish for.
non-BCS $$$ | 9:35 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
All five non-BCS conferences share in the $17.5 BCS payout when a non-BCS team
plays in a BCS bowl.
Under the current format, a playoff between the MWC/WAC champion wouldn't make any difference in getting a team into a BCS game unless neither conference had a team finish in the Top 12 in the BCS standings (or Top 16 if they finish ahead of a BCS conference champion.
In either case, the MWC and WAC don't deserve to be playing in a BCS game if they don't have a team good enough to finish in the Top 16.
Then again, no team (BCS or non-BCS) deservers to play in a BCS game if they aren't ranked in the Top 16.
Under the current format, a playoff between the MWC/WAC champion wouldn't make any difference in getting a team into a BCS game unless neither conference had a team finish in the Top 12 in the BCS standings (or Top 16 if they finish ahead of a BCS conference champion.
In either case, the MWC and WAC don't deserve to be playing in a BCS game if they don't have a team good enough to finish in the Top 16.
Then again, no team (BCS or non-BCS) deservers to play in a BCS game if they aren't ranked in the Top 16.
BSU Fan | 9:57 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
"The human polls should have Utah ranked ahead of USC now." Are you
serious? I think BSU and Utah are both a few spots too high. If USC were to play
both Utah and BSU, USC would blow both out of the water. I would love to see
Utah lose to BYU so BSU gets into another BCS game, but I don't think BSU
is quite ready. This was supposed to be a rebuilding year. It is the youngest
team among the top 25 and will get better next year when their freshmen and
sophomores get more experience. I think BSU will only lose about 3-4 seniors in
starting spots next year and most are freshman and sophomores in their two-deep.
If BSU does not make it to a BCS game, I hope they get to play someone from the
MWC.
Don Gile | 10:03 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
Boise State is 11-0 against the Mountain West teams including games with TCU,
BYU and Utah. I love the play off idea.,
to: Get over it | 10:11 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
Get lost; we don't need you as a BYU fan.
You're an embarrassment to all that Bronco has done to restore the glory and tradition that is BYU football.
You're an embarrassment to all that Bronco has done to restore the glory and tradition that is BYU football.
Rankings are sad | 10:12 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
I have no problem with Utah's ranking, under the system in place. But to
rank BYU ahead of TCU is ridiculous. TCU would beat BYU every single time they
played. And TCU really outplayed Utah. So to drop them lower than BYU takes away
any credibility because anyone who has watched these three teams plays knows
that Utah and TCU are pretty close, but BYU is not.
go utah | 10:35 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
Go UTES go!
Playoff required. | 10:37 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
It seems like the banter on this board just proves that we should have a playoff
for the national championship. No questions, case closed!
Re: Nice gesture | 10:38 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
That was such a classy thing to do for the students camped out to get tickets to
the holy war!
I disagree with nice gesture that Utah has no chance against the university of spoiled children and/or the big 12. The Utes have proven to be over achievers against better competition this year. That is what has made them so exciting to watch this year. Kyle, given enough time can prepare against anybody, His bowl record proves that.
Rivals predicts the Orange bowl against the NC Tarheels. THAT would sinch an 8-0 bowl record. I'll take it! (Hard place for fans to get to though)
I disagree with nice gesture that Utah has no chance against the university of spoiled children and/or the big 12. The Utes have proven to be over achievers against better competition this year. That is what has made them so exciting to watch this year. Kyle, given enough time can prepare against anybody, His bowl record proves that.
Rivals predicts the Orange bowl against the NC Tarheels. THAT would sinch an 8-0 bowl record. I'll take it! (Hard place for fans to get to though)
Tarheel Ute | 10:46 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
The BCS format is now designed to allow a single MWC/WAC or other non-BSC team
one BCS. This will generally mollify the rank and file MWC/WAC Athletic
Directors, Coaches and most fans. Even with a single non-BSC entry, the Bowl
money doled out will still unfairly concentrated with the BCS leagues.
Therefore the BCS leagues will continue to build larger stadiums, cherry-pick
the best coaches from non-BCS schools and attract the more physically talented
athletes.
The BSC league leadership is morally and intellectually bankrupt and would be quite happy to have the MWC/WAC champion create their own Bowl game and be shut of us. The BCS leagues control the post-season bowl playing field and the NCAA seems powerless as a larger party to change it. And the non-BCS league leadership knows this as well. They too, do not have the moral and intellectual courage to support a MWC/WAC championship based bowl game, but would rather trade opportunities for a single BCS game per year.
So be happy Utes, we are the miserable but happy red-headed step-child, and should be grateful if not groveling over a single BSC slot if the team wins out.
The BSC league leadership is morally and intellectually bankrupt and would be quite happy to have the MWC/WAC champion create their own Bowl game and be shut of us. The BCS leagues control the post-season bowl playing field and the NCAA seems powerless as a larger party to change it. And the non-BCS league leadership knows this as well. They too, do not have the moral and intellectual courage to support a MWC/WAC championship based bowl game, but would rather trade opportunities for a single BCS game per year.
So be happy Utes, we are the miserable but happy red-headed step-child, and should be grateful if not groveling over a single BSC slot if the team wins out.
lol byu | 10:55 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
how come byu still thinks they are better and utah is on its way to 2nd bcs bowl
game.
personally i dont think byu will ever make it...
personally i dont think byu will ever make it...
BYU rocks | 10:56 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
Utahs mascot is stupid, a bird? come on, and i hate the Utah commentators, if
Utah goes BCS all of you Utah fans will waste your money if you go no matter
which team they play as long as there in the top ten they will get annihilated
51-0 it will make the non BCS teams look bad just like Hawaii.
DLS | 11:04 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
RE: BSU Fan
Yes, there is a high probability that USC would blow both BSU and Utah out of the water. Just like USC was suppose to blow Oregon State out of the water. However, USC didn�t blow Oregon State out of the water and on any given day BSU and/or Utah could beat USC. That�s why they play the game. That�s why the BCS needs to be dismantled for a playoff system.
Yes, there is a high probability that USC would blow both BSU and Utah out of the water. Just like USC was suppose to blow Oregon State out of the water. However, USC didn�t blow Oregon State out of the water and on any given day BSU and/or Utah could beat USC. That�s why they play the game. That�s why the BCS needs to be dismantled for a playoff system.
re BYU rocks | 11:08 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
i agree with BYU rocks their mascot is stupid cosmo rocks but i also hate the
utah fight song i mean i'm a utah fan but i think that utah has some stupid
things i like red and white but i think i might change to BYU because almost
everything about BYU is better than Utah
i just wish that Utah would do better as a school i mean after they beat OSU the one guy was raving about how much OSU sucks if you want to make yourself look good never say that a team you barely beat on a last second drive who beat USC Sucks it makes you look bad.
i just wish that Utah would do better as a school i mean after they beat OSU the one guy was raving about how much OSU sucks if you want to make yourself look good never say that a team you barely beat on a last second drive who beat USC Sucks it makes you look bad.
oh yeah.... | 11:10 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
The BCS grand prize for the mountain west will be worse than 2004...an orange
bowl date with North Carolina. Big wup.
Bender Rodriguez | 11:12 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
re: Nice gesture | 6:53 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
>>Utah's best scenario for winning their BCS bowl is facing the winner of the Big East or ACC. They won't stand much of a chance of beating USC, or any of the teams from the Big 12 or SEC.<<
If Utah and/or Boise are in the top 12 and ranked above the highest team in the Big East (currently Pitt #22?)) & ACC (currently UNC (#16?)) Then Utah and/or Boise would go and Pitt & UNC would be SOL.
It could very well be Utah/Texas in the Fiesta and Florida/Boise In Sugar.
>>Utah's best scenario for winning their BCS bowl is facing the winner of the Big East or ACC. They won't stand much of a chance of beating USC, or any of the teams from the Big 12 or SEC.<<
If Utah and/or Boise are in the top 12 and ranked above the highest team in the Big East (currently Pitt #22?)) & ACC (currently UNC (#16?)) Then Utah and/or Boise would go and Pitt & UNC would be SOL.
It could very well be Utah/Texas in the Fiesta and Florida/Boise In Sugar.
Boise State | 11:20 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
Would've finished 5th in the MWC this year behind Utah, TCU, BYU AND Air
Force.
UNLV and New Mexico would've given the Broncos all they could handle.
UNLV and New Mexico would've given the Broncos all they could handle.
Lame | 11:22 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
Football is so lame. Too many breaks in play. Just an excuse for a bunch of
overwieght guys to act tough. Who cares if it is BYU, UofU, Broncos. They are
all lame.
Frank Castle | 11:30 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
re: Big Joke - LSU/Bama | 8:42 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
You are talking the same Alabama team that thrashed preseason #1 Georgia who in turn took LSU to the woodshed?
All good teams win at least 1 or 2 ugly games where the may or may not deserve to i.e. Bama v LSU and probably Auburn or Utes v NM & TCU.
re: Get over it | 9:20 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
>>The fact that the yewties beat OSU who beat USC means nothing.<<
How 'bout Ore St beating both UW & UCLA?
Sometimes, its better to be lucky than good. Being a breed em young fan, you know all about that, right?
As for Nov 22, it should go alot like 2004 where it'll be close for a quarter and a half before the Utes pull away.
You are talking the same Alabama team that thrashed preseason #1 Georgia who in turn took LSU to the woodshed?
All good teams win at least 1 or 2 ugly games where the may or may not deserve to i.e. Bama v LSU and probably Auburn or Utes v NM & TCU.
re: Get over it | 9:20 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
>>The fact that the yewties beat OSU who beat USC means nothing.<<
How 'bout Ore St beating both UW & UCLA?
Sometimes, its better to be lucky than good. Being a breed em young fan, you know all about that, right?
As for Nov 22, it should go alot like 2004 where it'll be close for a quarter and a half before the Utes pull away.
Re: BYU Rocks | 11:30 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
Utah's mascot is stupid..........? That was a petty comment.
Texas Cougar | 11:32 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
I hope Utah cracks the top five before Nov. 22nd, and that BYU can make it to
that game with only one loss. The only way to make this rivalry more public is
for both teams to be regularly ranked when they play one another.
By the way, I think they should change the way in which the BCS gives automatic bids. Every year, they should give the automatic bids to the six conferences that have the best non-conference record (with non-div. 1A not counting in the win column, but counting if the div. 1A school loses).
That way, unusually tough conferences like the MWC are rewarded for playing better than average ball, while unusually weak conferences like the Big East, are not given something they really don't deserve. Plus, it will change the current trend in college football scheduling. The big conferences will start scheduling more games with the mid-majors, in order to preserve their preeminence in receiving an automatic birth, while teams will not schedule so many div. 1 AA teams, if it means that the game can only count against their nonconference schedule, and not for it. Mid-majors would get a chance each year to prove themselves.
By the way, I think they should change the way in which the BCS gives automatic bids. Every year, they should give the automatic bids to the six conferences that have the best non-conference record (with non-div. 1A not counting in the win column, but counting if the div. 1A school loses).
That way, unusually tough conferences like the MWC are rewarded for playing better than average ball, while unusually weak conferences like the Big East, are not given something they really don't deserve. Plus, it will change the current trend in college football scheduling. The big conferences will start scheduling more games with the mid-majors, in order to preserve their preeminence in receiving an automatic birth, while teams will not schedule so many div. 1 AA teams, if it means that the game can only count against their nonconference schedule, and not for it. Mid-majors would get a chance each year to prove themselves.
Sick of hearing theres no chance | 11:37 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
Man, you people sure buy the East Coast Bias hook, line and sinker!! I will give
you that the Big-12 and SEC, even the top Big-10 and Pac-10 teams get most of
the '5*' recruits, and if this was track and field, they beat us every
time. But lets take a more objective look at the TEAMS above Utah, et al, in the
rankings.
1. Texas Tech - having a great year, but what have they ever done in the past to be considered a national power. Most pick them to lose to OK, which should drop them below Utah.
2. Alabama - sometime in the distant past before i ever watched college football they were a power. Most pick them to lose to Fla, which should drop them below Utah.
3 - 6. All these teams have been great powers in recent years, but why do they all have losses? To me that shows vulnerability. Utah has flaws, but not in the Loss column. Utah beat TCU because they didn't make as many mistakes. We've been best at home, but I would consider the Fiesta Bowl a home game.
Go Utes!
1. Texas Tech - having a great year, but what have they ever done in the past to be considered a national power. Most pick them to lose to OK, which should drop them below Utah.
2. Alabama - sometime in the distant past before i ever watched college football they were a power. Most pick them to lose to Fla, which should drop them below Utah.
3 - 6. All these teams have been great powers in recent years, but why do they all have losses? To me that shows vulnerability. Utah has flaws, but not in the Loss column. Utah beat TCU because they didn't make as many mistakes. We've been best at home, but I would consider the Fiesta Bowl a home game.
Go Utes!
BYU fans | 11:41 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
Seem to be very confident that they will beat Utah in two weeks.
Maybe they will, but if I were a BYU fan I would be more worried about Air Force. One of BYU's biggest problems is that they feel entitled to victories and they don't seem to prepare the way that they should.
Next week we can all trash talk and cheer for our respected teams, but this week the Utes need to avoid a trap game in San Diego and the Cougars need to come up with an answer for Air Force's run game.
Good Luck Cougars, and GO UTES!!!!
Maybe they will, but if I were a BYU fan I would be more worried about Air Force. One of BYU's biggest problems is that they feel entitled to victories and they don't seem to prepare the way that they should.
Next week we can all trash talk and cheer for our respected teams, but this week the Utes need to avoid a trap game in San Diego and the Cougars need to come up with an answer for Air Force's run game.
Good Luck Cougars, and GO UTES!!!!
Rich | 11:45 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
This year has been one for the history books. I am an avid Utah fan and I cannot
believe that they are 10-0. It is a great feeling, but at the same time I do not
think that they deserve the #7 ranking.
But I do know that they deserve to be ahead of Boise State. Boise State fans are almost worst then BYU fans.
They know nothing of the game, and would find things to complain about even of they were ranked #1.
Good job Cougars for the season so far, 9-1 is nothing to sneeze at, I am very excited for the big game in two weeks, but for now I am just as excited for the SDSU game this saturday.
Focus Utes, two more games to go!
But I do know that they deserve to be ahead of Boise State. Boise State fans are almost worst then BYU fans.
They know nothing of the game, and would find things to complain about even of they were ranked #1.
Good job Cougars for the season so far, 9-1 is nothing to sneeze at, I am very excited for the big game in two weeks, but for now I am just as excited for the SDSU game this saturday.
Focus Utes, two more games to go!
BCS? | 12:24 p.m. Nov. 10, 2008
I think it's time to call the BCS what it really is..... "The SEC
Invitational presented by FOX"
You would think that with FOX involved, it would be "Fair and Balanced". I guess that only applies to their news division....
You would think that with FOX involved, it would be "Fair and Balanced". I guess that only applies to their news division....
Dear Bender | 12:27 p.m. Nov. 10, 2008
did you forget about those automatic bids to the ACC and Big East?
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