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Levy for $250,000 home varies across the state
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J. L. Warr | 6:13 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
Apparently you didn't look at Herriman in Salt Lake County. I believe we
have the highest taxes in the state. During the housing bubble speculators
drove the prices to astronomical levels, and then the assessor revalued the rest
of our properties based on those values. My taxes have increase 300% in 10
years. Just last year my taxes were increased 50%. But now no one can sell at
even a third of the previous prices, but the tax commission is still taxing
based on the highest valuations.
Utah vs Florida | 7:39 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
In Florida, wealthy people with 2nd or 3rd homes, who are not residents of the
state, pay much more in taxes, than the working residents of Florida.
Here in Utah, our legislature has been bought & paid for, by wealthy folks, who have passed laws, so they pay almost 1/2 in property taxes, for their 2nd & 3rd McMansions.
I suppose this low tax rate for non-residents, also applies to the Park City area?
I would like to be WEALTHY!
Here in Utah, our legislature has been bought & paid for, by wealthy folks, who have passed laws, so they pay almost 1/2 in property taxes, for their 2nd & 3rd McMansions.
I suppose this low tax rate for non-residents, also applies to the Park City area?
I would like to be WEALTHY!
Kansas City Resident | 7:52 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
You guys think you have high taxes. Try moving out here to Kansas City where I
pay about $2,700 per year for a $180,000 home. That would translate into about
$4,000 for a $250,000 home annually. I thought I would give you a little
perspective.
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Anonymous | 8:40 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
Greedy governments!
Try living here | 9:01 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
Out here in Kane County ILLINOIS my home is assessed at $183K minus $5K for a
homeowner exemption. My taxes this year are $4,260.08.
In exchange we get tougher gun laws, street cameras, and stricter building codes. The nanny state is expensive. Count your blessings!
In exchange we get tougher gun laws, street cameras, and stricter building codes. The nanny state is expensive. Count your blessings!
evensteven | 9:05 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
While interesting, the comparison is not really meaningful and only serve to
stir up tax "fairness" concerns. The reason is location, location,
location. What might sell for $250k in Blanding would bring a far higher price
on the Wasatch Front. Without comparing the quality of those various $250k
homes, its a bit like comparing the $0.50 soda from the machine at work to a
similar $2.25 soda at the movie theater. Same soda but the sales taxes paid are
vastly different.
As was rightly pointed out, the biggest cause of the disparity is the schoold district assessment. Unless the state is going to take that over and assess a uniform rate for captial and transportation, or specifically weight trust lands funds more heavily to rural districts, those differences will always exist.
As was rightly pointed out, the biggest cause of the disparity is the schoold district assessment. Unless the state is going to take that over and assess a uniform rate for captial and transportation, or specifically weight trust lands funds more heavily to rural districts, those differences will always exist.
Blanding | 9:09 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
Crazy! Ridiculous! Out of Control! Highest Taxes & Highest level of
poverty! Anyone see a pattern. Students that attend San Juan School District
Schools and live on the reservation, come from homes where NO TAXES are paid.
See a problem here? Reservation homes are not taxed, yet those students attend
our schools. Tax payers in San Juan are supplementing their share of the
burden! Anyone see a problem here?
Cubicle Dweller | 10:11 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
This is a silly comparison. $250,000 will buy quite a different home depending
on where you go in the state. Rich and San Juan Counties are different for
other reasons as well. Rich County has a lot of vacation homes in their tax
base. These properties are taxed at 100% of value instead of 55%, and the level
of services provided is much less, i.e. vacation homes don't house children
needing education. San Juan County evidently provides a lot of services for
people living outside their tax base.
I don't know exactly what the Deseret News is trying to stir up here, but the bottom line is that the bulk of property taxes are levied by local government entities to provide specific local services. The citizens in each county has oversight over the councils, commissions and boards that levy those taxes through the ballot box.
I don't know exactly what the Deseret News is trying to stir up here, but the bottom line is that the bulk of property taxes are levied by local government entities to provide specific local services. The citizens in each county has oversight over the councils, commissions and boards that levy those taxes through the ballot box.
Fredrick | 11:01 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
Although Utah taxes are high, I have no pity on the taxes paid by someone living
in KC, or Ill.
If it is so bad there, MOVE.
If it is so bad there, MOVE.
Phred | 11:27 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
There is also a great disparity between rural and urban when it comes to
amenities like the recent zoo and aviary bond, the soccer stadium, the daVinci,
etc., many of which the voters voluntarily vote for in the premise that it is
"just a few dollars more per year".
The problem could be readily solved if special interest venues like these had to be self-sustaining by either gate receipts or subscription. Those who vote for it would be billed for a subscription that would buy a gate pass. Those who do not vote for it would have to pay at the gate if they use it at all. Personally I have no plans to ever go ice skating in West Valley but if I do, I plan on paying the price.
A more practical solution would be to have property taxes due the week before elections.
I know, neither of these will happen but I can dream can't I?
The problem could be readily solved if special interest venues like these had to be self-sustaining by either gate receipts or subscription. Those who vote for it would be billed for a subscription that would buy a gate pass. Those who do not vote for it would have to pay at the gate if they use it at all. Personally I have no plans to ever go ice skating in West Valley but if I do, I plan on paying the price.
A more practical solution would be to have property taxes due the week before elections.
I know, neither of these will happen but I can dream can't I?
DS | 11:32 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
It's important to remember that disparities in taxes come because of
differences in local communities. It's also important to remember that
local control is always better than state and national control. While there is
a problem with Blanding servicing people who don't pay taxes, we have to
remember that one of the problems Utah is faced with is that the federal
government owns so much of this state's land which translates into NO
PROPERTY TAX paid. In spite of this hurdle, Utah is 37th in the nation in
property taxes. That means that only 13 states have lower property taxes.
K | 11:44 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
Also here in Illinois:$250,000 property taxes would get you close to $4,000 a
year. Other states are more expensive.
Out of State Taxes | 11:54 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
Look and think clearly about the taxes paid in Kansas and other states. They
are much higher than ours.
And, their states are able to pay their teachers considerably more than we pay ours.
Do you see a relationship?
And, their states are able to pay their teachers considerably more than we pay ours.
Do you see a relationship?
Iowa taxes | 12:14 p.m. Nov. 10, 2008
Our $150,000-valued home costs almost $2,300 a year in property taxes.
I don't know that anyone was whining about high taxes in Utah, from the story. It was a comparison, the kind newspapers like to run to stir up readership.
Seems to have worked...
I don't know that anyone was whining about high taxes in Utah, from the story. It was a comparison, the kind newspapers like to run to stir up readership.
Seems to have worked...
Hey blanding griper | 12:17 p.m. Nov. 10, 2008
get a grip, go down the workforce , health , school..you are not carrying anyone
one on your back..if anything i challenge you to go to the various agencies who
recieve any kind of ndn monies and you will find that your jack and jill would
not be able to get all the perks that you speak of...example the colleges in
town ..who's kids recieve the most on free tuition, yet remove the indian
money there and see what happens. Next check the census #'s used for the
all the services rendered which has created growth opportunitiy for credit
unions and banks. And the natives that are in blanding pay taxes just like
you..as we are buying our home. You guys get jobs , jobs and more jobs due to
the native monies, just check the latest audit on the san juan county school
district and if the numbers are added up the natives represent a much larger
contribution than the non- native sitting next to the them.. with the non-native
ussually comming from much larger families. So go through all the agencies and
services then you might be surprised about this so called hand out!!
I agree with J.L. Warr | 12:40 p.m. Nov. 10, 2008
I have lived in Herriman over 20 years. My home has not changed...but the
subdivisions around us have pushed the home values up, up, up! Plus there is
the ever-constant, yet controversial "Public Safety Fee" in Herriman.
To be fair, you should add $300 a year to the property taxes in Herriman to get
a REAL idea of the taxes we pay.
Throw the bums out...let's get fair and honest taxation in Herriman!!
Throw the bums out...let's get fair and honest taxation in Herriman!!
phil | 1:05 p.m. Nov. 10, 2008
Comparing property tax from one state to another is comparing apples and
oranges. I know that New Hamspire has much higher property tax than Utah, but
they don't have income tax. Utah has the highest tax burden in the U.S.
To Utah and Florida | 1:10 p.m. Nov. 10, 2008
You have your facts mixed up. Second houses or out of state owners pay the full
tax while Utah first residences get large exemptions. Your class warfare
attitude against the "rich" is low class. What is your definition of a
rich person, someone that makes more than you do?
i don't want to be monitored | 1:25 p.m. Nov. 10, 2008
i have studied this out! and for the blanding commentor giving another invalid
gripe on native people also generalizing..first of all one would have to go back
to the consititution to change some of the laws..you know the founding fathers
said "as long as the grass grows and the waters flow"...but take a
look around in Blanding , one the great misconception. Check the sjschool dist.
current audit..you'll find the huge disparity in the amount of native vs
non-native money per student. with the non native representing a far smaller
allocation. Next check all the agencies such as detention, health, services,
grocery store then figure in the natives who are buying and pay taxes who live
there. I think you will find the non natives recieve a huge amount of money at
the expense of the native americans programs to allow your children to attend
the two colleges via free tuition. Now remove all the Monies which the
non-natives recieve via jobs, credit unions , banks along with the UNTF millions
then the big mystery of who is riding who for a free ride becomes clear.
we're natives who live in Blanding , we pay taxes on everthing like
everyone!
Ohio | 3:38 p.m. Nov. 10, 2008
$250,000 home = $4500 property taxes in my community
hoola | 4:33 p.m. Nov. 10, 2008
Who's pulling strings for Alpine, some of the most expensive homes and lots
in the state?
Re: Frederick | 5:18 p.m. Nov. 10, 2008
Dear Utah Residents. You will be fine with your supposed high property taxes.
Get used to it. It's not the end of the world. Everyone else in the US
seems to thrive just fine with higher property taxes.
wc | 6:22 p.m. Nov. 10, 2008
There are a lot of misconceptions out there. It is my understanding that the
state of Utah takes property taxes and redistributes the money around the state.
It is ironic that a state whose citizens are so extremely conservative and
afraid of "socialism" or "income redistribution" have a
state legislature which is very "socialistic" by the conservative
movement's definition. My taxes on a 20 year old 3400 square foot home in
Park City have more than doubled at the same time that there has been explosive
growth in homes and condos here which pay $20,000 to $60,000 each per year in
taxes. I have heard that Park City funds all or most of 13 school districts in
rural areas populated by cash poor but land rich farmers who really own the
legislature. We are one of the highest taxed states.
l | 6:46 p.m. Nov. 10, 2008
RE 'Hey blanding griper | 12:17 p.m.'
What does your comment even mean? I've read it about 3 times, and maybe about one sentence out of your whole post makes sense.
I think you're trying to say that the Indians do pay taxes, but that is just a guess based on you calling the previous poster a griper and he or she said the Indians don't pay taxes.
Seriously, can we get people to start reading over their comments before posting them?
What does your comment even mean? I've read it about 3 times, and maybe about one sentence out of your whole post makes sense.
I think you're trying to say that the Indians do pay taxes, but that is just a guess based on you calling the previous poster a griper and he or she said the Indians don't pay taxes.
Seriously, can we get people to start reading over their comments before posting them?
that sure is totally wrong | 6:46 p.m. Nov. 10, 2008
just pull the current audit!! ha ha, park city doing that yeah right.
wc | 7:14 p.m. Nov. 10, 2008
Hey "that sure is totally wrong" Do you read much?? The whole point
was that the state government confiscates the money and redistributes it around
the state. We have to deal with extremely high house prices which are bid up by
out of state buyers. The posters who bought up the issue of differences in
quality and size of a $250,000 home had good points. There are virtually no
single family homes priced at $250,000 or lower in PC, no matter how old or
small. If all of the second home tax money stayed in Summit County the
property taxes for the full time residents would be very low. I didn't
imply that the citizens of PC were voluntarily funding these districts but that
"Big Brother" was operating here in the reddest of states, which is
really ironic.
TR | 7:18 p.m. Nov. 10, 2008
Higher taxes is called "redistribution". You ain't seen nothing
yet! The dirty little secret is that many people who do not own propety vote for
increased tax levies. They don't have to pay these taxes so what's not
for them to love? It is this something for nothing mentality that got Obama
elected! It is going to get a lot worse folks. Wait until you get the bill for
electing a socialist!
re: wc | 7:24 p.m. Nov. 10, 2008
Hey wc, did you ever consider that in those 20 years that the value of your home
doubled? That is why your property taxes probably followed accordingly? But
yes, I do think that 2oK to 60K to pay in property taxes is ludicrious?
re I | 6:20 p.m. Nov. 11, 2008
is a perfect example of deflection! just get the sjuan school audit , look who
runs the programs , where the money comes from that pays your rent or your
people rent ...by the way the taxes are offset from what the school district
recieves every year..maybe it is time for another class action law suit which is
ripe for the taking then maybe you'll get the picture as in Navajo Mtn.
sounds like you might be on the same team as the ex-county commissioner and his
son...wonder what their eating now.
RE I | 6:36 p.m. Nov. 11, 2008
the concurrent enrollment, hospitals, grants etc. . In fact i am sending these
comments to the Navajo board of education for further review...maybe they might
not want to send anymore money north until this is cleared up! and that should
speak volumns on the message of taxation loud and clear. by the way i can speak
on this quite loud as i just bought a pop sickle at clarks market and i was
taxed duh! from the rez.
aye | 8:47 p.m. Nov. 11, 2008
I, sounds like a blanding person can't see the obvious..i'm glad that
under obama the natives will get this straigthened out since such people have a
hard time acknowledging it. LONG LIVE OBAMA!!
blanding | 9:32 p.m. Nov. 11, 2008
yeah the city is blaming and bumping native american college kids from the rec
center ...now where do those stereotypes getting started concerning trouble come
from? and wasn't the baseball field awarded using native american #'s
from outside of town promising inclusion of the Native Americans from bluff and
montezuma creek? So I ..you want the truth..you can't handle the truth!!!
Tell it like it is sometimes and don't be so arrogant when you do! There is
no integrity how you got that baseball field!! The Navajo people need to know
about this as you act so haughty like it is your field when it was awarded for
their use! and don't you forget it, in fact that field should have a Native
American Name on it..good article for One of the major indian newspaper for
sure, so don't worry about this guy's gengre!!
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