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Statement issued by Sacramento's Bishop Weigand
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georgiaonmymind | 5:28 a.m. Nov. 8, 2008
Thank You Bishop!
IDBugm | 6:09 a.m. Nov. 8, 2008
Nice support from Bishop Weigand. Funny how those who feel others are not
tolerant to their own views, themselves fall into that category. The
"Mormons" didn't cause the gay rights movement to fail.
Californians voted against the marriage of same sex couples.
Those of faith from every corner of California stood up and said same sex marriage is wrong. If Prop 8 would have failed do you think Christians would be protesting in front of Bed, Bath, and Beyond? No. Do you think Christians would swarm around HGTV headquarters demanding homosexuals to accept our point of view? No.
I think I and others are very tolerant to the homosexual point of view. I have friends who have chosen that life style. However. I consider the act a sin. I don't have to vote for sin's acceptance to love the sinner. That is my constitutional right and it's your constitutional right to disagree. And to argue my right is any better or worse than your own is a fools errand.
Those of faith from every corner of California stood up and said same sex marriage is wrong. If Prop 8 would have failed do you think Christians would be protesting in front of Bed, Bath, and Beyond? No. Do you think Christians would swarm around HGTV headquarters demanding homosexuals to accept our point of view? No.
I think I and others are very tolerant to the homosexual point of view. I have friends who have chosen that life style. However. I consider the act a sin. I don't have to vote for sin's acceptance to love the sinner. That is my constitutional right and it's your constitutional right to disagree. And to argue my right is any better or worse than your own is a fools errand.
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anon | 7:04 a.m. Nov. 8, 2008
No one should be surprised that an organization made up of pedophiles and
opportunists supports an organization made up of bigots and oppressors. They
spend the majority of their time defaming and slandering one another in the
attempt to maintain their slice of the religion market, but they can always find
time to come together to make sure the "least of god's children"
maintain that status.
Christians sound like fine people, one day I hope to meet one.
Christians sound like fine people, one day I hope to meet one.
Ron | 7:43 a.m. Nov. 8, 2008
Well said Bishop. Thank you for throwing your hat into the ring, and
acknowledging the bond of religious brotherhood in such matters.
Me | 7:48 a.m. Nov. 8, 2008
Thank you Bishop! Your support brings comfort to those of us on the receiving
end who are watching these events unfold.
Bob K. | 8:02 a.m. Nov. 8, 2008
Meh... you want to _really_ protect marriage? Why not outlaw divorce along with
banning gays from participating. After all, we *do* want to *protect* marriage,
right? Assuming that each gay marriage is an affront to the institution, what
does each divorce do?
Anonymous | 8:30 a.m. Nov. 8, 2008
Well said. It is not fun to lose a political battle, especially when so much
energy and resources was put into it on both sides.
But even the losing side must acknowledge that it was a great and well-coordinated effort by lots of organizations and ethnicities to win this vote in California. CALIFORNIA! I applaud the courage and morality of those who voted to support Proposition 8.
But even the losing side must acknowledge that it was a great and well-coordinated effort by lots of organizations and ethnicities to win this vote in California. CALIFORNIA! I applaud the courage and morality of those who voted to support Proposition 8.
John Pack Lambert | 8:40 a.m. Nov. 8, 2008
I very much appreciate Bishop Wiegand's comments.
Californian #1 | 5:01 p.m. Nov. 8, 2008
Thank you to Bishop Weigand, and to Archbishop Niederauer and the numerous other
spiritual leaders who joined with Latter-day Saints to defend marriage. Much of
my own phone bank work was done at a Catholic establishment, and we appreciate
the religious community that opened its doors and added its voices for this
cause.
We knew there would be consequences, and we are grateful to you for standing next to us as we take the heat. Much love to you from the Bay Area.
We knew there would be consequences, and we are grateful to you for standing next to us as we take the heat. Much love to you from the Bay Area.
chicagodon | 8:17 p.m. Nov. 8, 2008
Perhaps, both of these religions need to review the constitution of this
country. The most important right spelled out in that document is the right of
freedom of speech. That right has been expressed against the positions these
churches took on Proposition 8. Both of these institutions take a dim view of
their members expressing opinions contrary to the official church position. As
much as they may not like it, their power to stifle this fundamental right does
not extend beyond this contol within their organization. The world would be a
more civil and just place if religious bodies could just mind their own flock
and business.
Temporary Californian | 11:32 p.m. Nov. 8, 2008
Chicagodon expresses the important right of freedom of speech, but the opponents
went far beyond mere freedom of speech by many many instances of spray painting
their opposition on chuch buildings and stone markers, rampant stealing of
signs, bullying and even spitting on those carrying "yes" signs, and
other acts of physical aggresion...all these before and after the election. I
never read or saw on TV one instance of pro-Prop 8 people committing these acts.
The people have voted; that's what this country is about. Many of us are
tired of gay and lesbian organizations trying to cram their views down our
throat.
Loretta | 5:37 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
Go, Bishop Weigand!
And peace to all of you, especially Anon, whose remarks of 8 Nov show the full range of inclusive (and untrue) slur. I hope you do get to meet the perfect Christ, and I hope to be listening in the day it happens.
And peace to all of you, especially Anon, whose remarks of 8 Nov show the full range of inclusive (and untrue) slur. I hope you do get to meet the perfect Christ, and I hope to be listening in the day it happens.
Seekers of Truth | 8:51 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
To any honest seeker of truth, please read 2 Timothy 2, where the Apostle Paul
accurately describes our day. This controversy is front and center in these
moral and cultural wars, and is a direct and frontal assault on people of faith
trying to simply uphold traditional fundamental values. The gay zealots are
what Isaiah prophesied would say in the last days to "call evil good and
good evil." We're there.
David in Oregon | 10:35 a.m. Nov. 10, 2008
I'm wondering if the bishop is the pot or the kettle. Bigotry? Intolerance?
Supporters of Prop 8 need to look in the mirror and take some of their own
advice.
Even if we don't agree with with same-sex marriage, our bigoted, intolerant behavior is just as offensive as theirs.
Even if we don't agree with with same-sex marriage, our bigoted, intolerant behavior is just as offensive as theirs.
David in Idaho | 4:54 p.m. Nov. 11, 2008
I believe the Church of Jesus Christ of LDS does not condone intolerance or
inequality, however, they will continue to work to maintain the sanctity of
marriage.
See official LDS statement:
"The Church�s opposition to same-sex marriage neither constitutes nor condones any kind of hostility toward gays and lesbians. Even more, the Church does not object to rights for same-sex couples regarding hospitalization and medical care, fair housing and employment rights, or probate rights, so long as these do not infringe on the integrity of the traditional family or the constitutional rights of churches."
I personally support measures that maintain the sanctity of marriage (as defined as one man and one woman) and also believe in encouraging measures to respect others rights.
I hope those who support and oppose Prop 8 will reach across and work together with religous and equal rights organizations to work for rights of gay, lesbian, and bi-sexual couples to difuse intolerance.
See official LDS statement:
"The Church�s opposition to same-sex marriage neither constitutes nor condones any kind of hostility toward gays and lesbians. Even more, the Church does not object to rights for same-sex couples regarding hospitalization and medical care, fair housing and employment rights, or probate rights, so long as these do not infringe on the integrity of the traditional family or the constitutional rights of churches."
I personally support measures that maintain the sanctity of marriage (as defined as one man and one woman) and also believe in encouraging measures to respect others rights.
I hope those who support and oppose Prop 8 will reach across and work together with religous and equal rights organizations to work for rights of gay, lesbian, and bi-sexual couples to difuse intolerance.
This is it | 3:14 p.m. Aug. 17, 2009
Stop reading your book called the Bible.
Ever heard of Separation of Church and State?
And why should everyone follow the Bible... what about other religions... does this make them wrong since we're all following the Bible in the US apparently?
To the person who mentioned gays, AIDS, and donating blood... I feel bad for this nation of.. whatever we are. I'm embarrassed to say I'm an American because of you.
Ever heard of Separation of Church and State?
And why should everyone follow the Bible... what about other religions... does this make them wrong since we're all following the Bible in the US apparently?
To the person who mentioned gays, AIDS, and donating blood... I feel bad for this nation of.. whatever we are. I'm embarrassed to say I'm an American because of you.
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Also, last time I donated blood I noticed (more this time than others) "Have you EVER had sex with another man" (Males) Not just with someone you suspect may have AIDS. And of course I have not. So, with this lifestyle you give up the right to donate blood. Just thought it was interesting.