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Published: Saturday, Nov. 8 2008 2:12 a.m. MST

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From the church

Okay you win.

John Pack Lambert

I think that Brother Eckern went to far in apologizing for speaking in favor of traditional marriage.
I think the fact that people can not follow their religion and maintain their job is very disturbing.


Thanks to everyone who is protesting prop 8--an assault on human dignity, love, and civil rights. Human rights cannot be put up to majority vote. We will prevail!

John Pack Lambert

I have found a more complete statement by Eckern. I think he brings up many valid points.
"I understand that my choice of supporting Proposition 8 has been the cause of many hurt feelings, maybe even betrayal. It was not my intent. I honestly had no idea that this would be the reaction. I chose to act upon my belief that the traditional definition of marriage should be preserved. I support each individual to have rights and access and I understood that in California domestic partnerships come with the same rights that come with marriage. My sister is a lesbian and in a committed domestic partnership relationship. I am loving and supportive of her and her family, and she is loving and supportive of me and my family. I definitely do not support any message or treatment of others that is hateful or instills fear. This is a highly emotional issue and the accusations that have been made against me are simply not true. I have now had many conversations with friends and colleagues,and I am deeply saddened thatmy personal beliefs and convictions have offended others." There is more, but this is his main point.

Idiots running the Asylum

The California Musical Theatre is spineless. That they allowed Eckern to resign just because he voted, and supported, his conscience, and considering that it was within his rights to do so, according to the statement by the theater, is unconscionable.

I guess the flip side is for everyone to start boycotting every project by every Hollywood type that donated money to the No on 8 cause.

The only betrayal here is that the California Musical Theatre tossed Eckern overboard to appease threats of a boycott.

Ever notice how you're only a "Free Thinker" if you share the opinion of the liberals? If you think differently, they will persecute you until your bones are picked clean.

I guess voting isn't the American way any longer.

John Pack Lambert

To the 4:12 comentator,
There was a good book on this subject entitled "Free Speech for Me but not for Thee".

Benedict Arnold

I would like to congratulate the California Musical Theatre for cowardice on a level I couldn't even hope to attain.

Re: Benedict

It was a business decision. The theater company wants to sell tickets. Any supporter of prop 8 will deflect interest, and any removal of said suppoter will result in more ticket sales. Expect to see a lot of this: the name, hometowns and workplaces of each financial contributor of prop 8 have been well-circulated.

to: Lambert & others

I am LDS and voted against prop 8. I view it as a secular matter, not religious. Because of those views most LDS posters on this site have called me an apostate, the BYU newspaper ridiculed people like me as "so-called active". Where is my "sacrosanct" (Scott Trotter's, church spokesman, word) right to vote as I please? Aren't my personal "circumstances and experiences" (church's words) valid reasons for voting against prop 8?

I see no difference in the rational for this poor treatment and the treatment Eckern received.


Not when they tie up traffic and freeway off ramps have to be closed for three and a half hours.

who cares

There are plenty of good moral people who will boycott the theatre in Sacramento. I know alot of people who are boycotting McDonalds, levi strauss, google and Spielberg movies. It goes both ways. Go ahead and boycott Utah. I'm sure the conference visitors will more than make up for the sundance festival and skiing. you don't need their filthy lucre.

Benedict Arnold

No, it was cowardice pure and simple. Do businesses really want patrons to make every decision based on what side somebody voted on in an election?

What was the percentage on this vote -- 52-48? Do businesses that supported No on 8 want to lose out on 52 percent of their customers? The Yes on 8 supporters are probably too mature to react in that way. But I suppose what's good for two ganders is good for a goose and a gander.

The fact that this theater forced an employee who had served them well for 25 years to resign because of his religious convictions is complete and utter cowardice. Talk about a religious discrimination lawsuit in the making.


Mr. Eckern was not fired. HE RESIGNED.

I found his apology and self justification to be very typical of your Mormon double-speak.

Master Sower

You mean he was forced to resign.

I find it disgraceful that a man can vote his conscience -- and not even that, but for an amendment that PASSED -- and then be treated like this.

I agree with Benedict. This theater is cowardly.

Boycotting season is open.

Re: Benedict Arnold

A theater, of all places, with an invariably active gay and gay-friendly audience probably couldn't afford to keep him on staff. This company shouldn't have to suffer because of one staffer's indoctrinations against a participating minority. Presumably his name was on the financial contributor list, because there is no reason anyone should have had to disclose their vote to their workplace.

Another matter I am confused about is that while I oppose Prop 8 ad infinitum, I fail to see how sacrificing your position because your morals would be considered cowardly, or anything but gracious in your religious community. Your reaction seems especially paradoxical.

Re: Benedicta

The 52-48% ratio is surely not congruent to the voting demographic of an urbane and cultured theater-attending community, as illustrated by this resignation.


I think that the reason why all the gays people in california are sore they don't have the right to do what natural. They are just genderly confused, that's all, they can't chose, but they can change, isn't that what all the crazies that voted for Obama want anyways? But I also don't think that it right for them to protest in front of our beautiful temples because we're doing what's right for our souls. Marriage is and always will be a sacred belssing for a man and a woman to partake in, to share their lives together and to bring beautiful children into this world together, and as we all know, you have to have two different parts to let that happen. It's just not natural for a little child to have two moms or dads, the natural thing is to have one mom and one dad and I strongly think that we should keep it that way.

John Pack Lambert

To the 5:22 commentator,
Do you follow God or Mammon? Do you sustain Thomas S. Monson as the prophet?
Are you ok with our enemies having showed LDS missionaries as house ransackers? With the initmidation of people on the way to the temple? With vandalism of chapels and the walls around temple lots? With people being forced out of their jobs because they headed the counsel of the prophet.
I call on all church members to boycott the California Music Theatre. Any organization that would foce someone out for following the teachings of their religion has no support from me.

Mea Culpa

I have posted several messages on these boards, both "pro" and "con." Try to figure out which are which! You are all so very very gullible!

Educate Yourselves

I suggest you all go to the SF Chronicle website (sfgate dot com). They have posted the database with all the names of individuals who donate money for and against Propositon 8, both in and out of the state of California. Then you can decide whom you want to boycott or support. This is NOT a witch hunt as some of you would suggest, but a matter of public record. Remember that next time you donate to such a political cause.

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