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Published: Saturday, Nov. 8 2008 2:12 a.m. MST

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Anonymous

wow such hate on both sides. love thy neighbor as thy self.

to Roger Carrier

This isn't about what they do in private. It's about how their private behavior affects the public. If it is legalized, children must be taught about homosexuality as part of diversity. A first grade class was taken to a lesbian wedding. When have you heard of instruction time being used to attend a traditional wedding? Use the internet to educate yourself about the reality of what has happened in Mass. since gay marriage was legalized. The next step will mandate that pedophilia be taught as part of diversity because you cannot discriminate based on sexual preferences. they have their registered domestic partnership CA family code 297.5 which clearly states they have all the rights of a spouse. The activists aren't happy with that. They won't rest until they've invaded our schools and can indoctrinate our kids. It was legal here for only a few weeks and it didn't take long for them to take first graders to a lesbian wedding. Let the indoctrination begin.

for prop 8

A vote yes on prop 8 bans same sex marriage in Calif., a state I left because it became increasingly hard to watch what was happening to this good state. All the hate and indecent, immature behavior is coming from the gay community it seems. They sound furious with religion in general. I remember the fires and looting in LA some years ago that was very frightening. The lawlessness shown here is no less frightening. How do they expect us to respect them when they are so disrespectful to everyone else. I'll not change my religious convictions in spite of all the hateful mean things that are directed against my faith. It's pointless. It is the gay plan (read their site on the net) to stir up all the trouble they can across the nation to try to force their views down everyones throats. Remember too, that the gay community had heavy contributions on their side. Shall the majority of the nation march against these people, boycott them and spew out hate? We're better than that.

Anonymous

gays simply choose not to grow up. they're stuck in the elementary school mindset of thinking the opposite sex has cooties. they also choose to throw temper tantrums when they don't get their own way.

for prop 8

Same sex marriage will be taught in school if prop 8 is overturned. California teachers union contributed to the vote on no. Other contributors to the no vote include McDonalds, Levi Strauss, Southern Cal. Edison, Steven Spielberg, the good governor of California speaks out in favor of a no vote. Does that not leave cause for concern? These are people who have a lot of influence on youth. A good friend of mine is concerned her children will one day have a field trip to a gay wedding through the school. Sound ludicrist? Well, it happened and could happen to her children too. How many field trips have you seen a school take to see a straight marriage? What message did that carry? Of course there will be sad reprocusions if the gay rights succeed, both morally and legally.
How come all the defacing these people have been doing is not being considered by the law as hate crimes? Their faces were on TV as they hung their signs in LA on the LDS temple wall. Not rocket science as to who did it, so why does not the law enforcement act when appropriate?

Gisele

Over and over and OVER on these Prop 8-related comments, I have seen supporters of prop 8 proclaiming that there is nothing in the Constitution that separates church from state--like it is their right to allow their dogma to dictate the government's actions. I will enlighten you. If there was no separation of church and state, the STATE would be dictating YOUR beliefs. NOT vice versa.

The STRATOSPHERIC arrogance of some of the childish, inarticulate religious supporters of prop 8 on these message boards is flabbergasting! Do you REALLY think your religion, a tiny minority itself, would BENEFIT from a unity of church in state against everyone else's beliefs in all of the religious institutions in your imagined American democratic theocracy?

You had better thank your lucky stars that this is NOT the way our country is run and be VERY careful what you wish for.

RE: Gisele

I'm glad we have the articulation police patrolling this thread. The establishment clause treats the subject of government-sponsored religion. If you think we're trying to cause the government to establish our religion, you are clearly mistaken. There are plenty of secular, evidence-based arguments promoting traditional marriage, and there are plenty of religious-minded people trying to protect a natural order. Is there plenty of religious fervor in this debate? Absolutely! How can you separate life from religion?! Not even the gays can claim immunity from religious conviction! Humans, by nature, are religious!!!

The People

Boycott Utah, The Hate State!

It's all been explained now

"gays simply choose not to grow up. they're stuck in the elementary school mindset of thinking the opposite sex has cooties. they also choose to throw temper tantrums when they don't get their own way."

Venting is what goes on here, not exchange of reasonable ideas.

Yankee Doodle

Starting today, gay marriages being in Connecticut. Are you Mormons going to turn your venom on that state now? Doesn't your prophet worry about the children there and start another hate campaign towards that state?

IMAN

RE:Steve

you and your religion are already sliding down th eslippery slope of irrelevance. It's only a matter of time.

Anonymous

no venting just the facts. They are acting like children both in the bedroom and on the streets.

Keri

If California says homosexual marriage is bad, it must be really bad. If they say it twice, it must be really, really bad!!!!!!

Shazam, Gisele!

Step back away from the edge, Gisele ... take a deep breath ... let rational thought occur before typing any further responses ...

I'm halfway convinced that you are a Yes on Prop. 8 troll, whose purpose it is to make the "No" side look ridiculous by spouting such utterly inconceivable rhetoric.

But ... in the slight case that you are for real ... I suggest you learn what the separation of church and state is. It is not that generally religious ideals, morals and ethics cannot be reflected in societal laws. It is that there is no state-sponsored religion. This country was founded on the basis of "freedom of religion" not "freedom from religion."

No one is suggesting a "unity of church and state" as you so "flabbergastingly" suggest. For you to so state is either just another in a string of lies espoused by the "No on 8" crowd or stratospherically arrogant and a low point on the childish, inarticulate scale of debate.

Thanks for "enlightening" us with your dogma.

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Ryanne

The majority of Los Angeles county voted to ban gay marriage. That shows despite the celebrity endorsements and the big bucks thrown to the no campaign, the majority of Californians are intelligent, moral people who can see through the lies and deceptions. No raised more money and had alot more TV ads than yes did. They aired during the top rated shows. Guess what, it didn't work. These ads claimed gay marriage had nothing to do with schools and yet it was a well known fact that first graders were taken to a lesbian wedding. Yes on 8 won!!!! Deal with it.

I-WOMAN

Yes, IMAN, just as soon as all the mindless vandalism, pointless protests, message board rants and profane placards all fade into oblivion, we will all return to our previous state of irrelevance.

Thanks for noticing!

to IMAN

We shall see, we shall see.

Serves Him Right!

The California Musical Theatre in Sacramento, California today confirmed that its Artistic Director, Scott Eckern, a Mormon, resigned under pressure this morning after gay and lesbian artists began organizing a boycott of the theater company over Eckern's $1,000 contribution in support of Proposition 8.


The Theater's Board of Directors said the organization is "dedicated only to the mission of providing quality theatrical productions. At no time does it involve itself in political issues or ever impinge on the rights of its employees to engage in political activities of their choice."

Before he resigned, Eckern issued an online apology through the theater publication, Playbill.

"I honestly had no idea that this would be the reaction," Eckern wrote. "I chose to act upon my belief that the traditional definition of marriage should be preserved. I support each individual to have rights and access and I understand that in California, domestic partnerships come with the same rights that come with marriage. I understand that my choice of supporting Proposition 8 has been the cause of many hurt feelings, maybe even betrayal," Eckern wrote. "It was not my intent."


re: anonymous

"They are acting like children both in the bedroom and on the streets."

So, you are not a believer in legal, organized protests?

Religion and Gays

If everyone took the time and effort to see how a lot of religions have treated their gay brothers and sisters through the ages, I think it would be apparent to understand the anger they have towards them. I think this was probably the tipping point.

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