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Published: Saturday, Nov. 8 2008 2:12 a.m. MST

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Heidi

The LDS church gave $22 million to the efforts to Pass Prop 8.........and you wonder why they are being singled out? Pa-lease!!

This protest WILL make an impact. There will be protests, like this one in almost all 50 states in the next month. With enough interest and momentum, the choice will go to the supreme court and Gay Marriage will be legal. And let me guess, those "prophets" you follow will claim God has spoken to them and allow Gays into their congregation just as with African Americans...? What a bunch of BS!

Re: Anonymous 1:20 a.m.

Sorry, but your logic makes no sense whatsoever.

But thanks for proving the scriptures and all the prophecies about the last days correct. Even the very elect will be deceived.

But those who follow the prophet will not be deceived. See, you will never go wrong following the prophet. It comes down to whether you believe the president of the church is a prophet. If you don't -- fine. But why be a member of a church where you don't believe one of the most basic tenets of its beliefs?

What good is it to be a member of a church whose teachings are dictated and swayed by public opinion?

Christ did minister to all. But he also said "If ye love me, keep my commandments." He said the healthy need not a physician -- but when he "hung out with" them, as you say, he didn't condone their behavior. He taught them the right way to live. He told them to "go your way and sin no more." And when he taught contrary to the prevailing thought of the day, he was killed.

Christ did love the sinner -- but never did condone the sin. Ever.

Roger E. Carrier

I am a straight male, age 62, married 40 years, lifelong Utah resident, and I dont see for the life of me how gay marriage hurts anybodys marriage.

If a church or person doesnt believe in it, then fine. But dont pass laws against it.

We have dozens of Utah families living in homeless shelters, and that money spent in California could have changed their lives. Doesnt anyone see the contradiction with Christian family values?

The anti-gay marriage people have hyped their cause to preposterous levels. Does the marriage of Jim and Bob of Arbuckle City, California at the Colusa Country Courthouse really have any affect on anybodys marriage? By preventing Jim and Bob from getting married, are we really saving the family? Come on, get real.

IMPORTANT: I don't believe the LDS Church is a cult or not a Christian religion. My disagreement is not with Mormon theology but with the mean-spirited policy and the funding of a POLITICAL crusade off in California.

Some Mormons that I've known have been salt-of-the-earth people. I've lived in Utah my entire life and love many tithe-paying Mormons.

Shecky Idaho Mormon

What is up with Rocky Anderson? After the wimpy way he waved the flag during the Olympics...why would you even want him representing anybody? What a 'ditz'. Do any of you protesters really think you'll change anyone's mind? I am amazed at the hypocrisy coming from the gay community. You are only 'for something' if everybody else agrees with you. They wanted Prop 8 on the ballot, so you could all vote in favor of it. Oh, but wait...it got defeated, and now you are just a bunch of whiners. I wanted McCain over Obama. Obama won. I guess I will deal with it and go on with my life. Why can't you pathetic cry babies do the same thing.

oh man

you mormons are so self centered. I'm sorry that you feel like if gay marrige is allowed, your marrige will be viewed as "less valid" but those are YOUR VIEWS. If you believe that god meant for marrige to only be between a man an a women, then good for you, but obviously gays don't believe in that, so why are YOUR VIEWS, changing the way that they live their lives. It's fine if a person doesn't believe in gay marrige, but that is thier views and it shouldn't be changing the way other people live.

Re: Anonymous | 1:20 a.m.

"I am embarrassed to be called not only a Christian and a Mormon. There will come a day when the Savior returns, and I promise you he will not be coming to the LDS conference Center..."

You're right. He'll first appear at Adam-Ondi-Ahman, and then He'll descend down to the Mount of Olives in Jerusalem. I don't imagine the LDS Conference Center is anywhere near the top of the list, though I'm sure He'll visit there someday. =)

Robert

Thank you California for passing Prop 8. I was thrilled to be able to send some money to support Yes on Prop 8. And thatnk you to all the others who supported this in any way they could. The intolerance shown by a small activist group of the LGBT community does a disserve to those who I know to be Gay & Lesbian. If they would put their effots to promoting the real needs they have of property rights, visitation rights etc that they say they want for themselves and their partner, without hijacking Marriage, they would be getting what they want and need. This radical activism does just what Mr. Whipple says the LDS church did for his cause. It encourages me to be more actively supportive of protecting marriage. Expect me to double my contribution the next time it is needed.

Not surprised, but concerned

it was nice to see the people of California stand up for traditional moral values that made America great and can keep America from falling further into societal decay. The democratic process is open to all, but it is sad the way some people respond. Shooting out windows at an LDS church. It appears mob mentality is the response of those who disagree with the outcome, and probably giving a lot of peaceful protestors a bad name.

Arthur

If a few judges want to deem the current definition marriage unconstitutionally biased again and again till it sticks, fine by me.

Apparently the country went the wrong way with the civil rights movement. We need those judges to redefine the unconstitutionally biased term "white" to include african americans, hispanics, asians, and indians. Apparently there is no such thing as seperate but equal. I want to be white!!!

Roger Carrier

I am a straight male, age 62, married 40 years, and I dont see for the life of me how gay marriage hurts anybodys marriage.

If a church or person doesnt believe in it, then fine. But dont pass laws against it.

The anti-gay marriage people have hyped their cause to preposterous levels. Does the marriage of Jim and Bob of Arbuckle City, California at the Colusa Country Courthouse really have any affect on anybodys marriage? By preventing Jim and Bob from getting married, we are saving the family? Come on, get real.

IMPORTANT: I don't believe the LDS Church is a cult, and my disagreement is not with Mormon theology. I disagree with the mean-spirited policy and the funding of a crusade off in California. Some Mormons that I've known have been salt-of-the-earth people. I've lived in Utah my whole life.

Good Times in SLC

I have spend the last 20 min reading hundreds of comments for and against prop 8...I agree whats done is done...and how is this comparable to the Civil Rights movement back in the day.. Last time I checked I didnt get to choose to be born an African American...Being gay isnt a race of people..or maybe I'm just a silly Christian

Peace and Love

Marie Devine

"Blesssed are you when you are persecuted for my word" Let us all remember there are more sins to fight against. We all need cleansing.

Revelation 21:7, 8
7He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be My son
8But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Revelation 22:12-16
12 And behold, I come quickly; and My reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
15 For without (outside) are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

Lies: novels, movies, DVD's, television, anti-God laws, etc..
To have power to overcome wickedness, we must be righteous and chose leaders who want God's ways.

Lightandliberty

This is great! Finally, we may see some who have been on the sidelines of the church have to take a stand. If they stand up for what is right, liberty prevails in their life; if they stand up for what is wrong, a loss of liberty occurs, including perhaps their dissafection from church! More freedom and less liberty! Battle lines are being drawn! Doing evil in the name of liberty is the ultimate irony!

Ensign

The church stood up for morality. The world riots against it. This divide will become greater and greater. Love the sinner, not the sin.

The downfall of the LDS Church?

Really? I don't think so. A few members will leave, I'm sure, and those of us that stick with the church over the next century or so will be put through the refiner's fire, but in the end, we'll be much stronger for it.

Don't forget that your prophecy about the church crumbling goes directly against a revelation by a prophet of God:

"Every previous gospel dispensation has drifted away into apostasy, but ours will not. Some individuals will fall away; but the kingdom of God will remain intact to welcome the return of its head-even Jesus Christ. While our generation will be comparable in wickedness to the days of Noah, when the Lord cleansed the Earth by flood, there is a major difference this time. God has saved for the final inning some of His strongest children, who will help bear off the kingdom triumphantly." -Ezra T. Benson

Which prophecy do you think will come true, the one made in the name of God, or the one made in the name of homosexual marriage? My bet's on President Benson, personally.

Greg

Yawn. This is so lame. The voice of the people in CA has been heard. UT had very little to do with this mess. Let's stop crying and do some good in the world. Go volunteer at a charity and forget about yourself. You might realize your life is not so bad.

MMM

CIVIL RIGHTS...OK

MARRIAGE....MMM...NOPE...Marriage was establish BY GOD, NOT THE HUMAN KIND!!! MUST BE MAN AND WOMAN...IF YOU DONT LIKE IT...TALK TO GOD!!!You'll have an answer!!!

Urgent

The Gay agenda groups is a mean spirited operation, they use the court system in hopes they can get a liberal judge to force law on the majority. This kind of underlying guilt can make for ugly and cowardly acts towards people that morally don't justify this behavior. People in this world make choices, we cannot spin right and wrong just to make our choices easier on the soul.

So tell me again

how the LDS church with 800,000 members in California, of which only half voted. Convinced 5.5 million voters of all faiths to vote in favor of Prop 8. I think the angry gays are looking for a scapegoat to protest against and picked the LDS church for some reason. They should march on their own state to other religious, or non-religous groups who voted for Prop 8. The numbers just don't add up, and either does the financial support. I guess the majority of Californians see the family unit as a man+woman=children. That's also gods plan for us too.

Love to You All

When struggling to understand this whole situation,and believe me, it's been a struggle, a good friend of mine told me: "It comes down to this, do you believe that the prophet receives revelation? He sees the bigger picture, so we must have faith and hope that there is a reason we have been called upon to take a stand on this issue."

For those of you who are LDS and struggling to accept the stand our leaders have taken, take a moment to search the scriptures and your soul for answers. We do not always understand why we are called upon to do certain things, but need to move forward in faith with the understanding that the Lord's purpose will be revealed to us in His time.

Surely, the Lord could resolve this issue in the twinkling of an eye if he so desired. There must be a reason why we are all being called out of our comfort zones to action.

I do realize that feelings are raw on both sides of this issue (I have a gay uncle myself), but spewing forth hate and condescension toward one another will not solve anything.

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