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Published: Saturday, Nov. 8 2008 2:12 a.m. MST

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People can...

vote for laws, candidates or any other position for whatever reason they want to. It doesn't matter if they have religious reasons for their voting habits or not. There is no law whatsover on any piece of legislation in the United States that says that a person's reasons for voting how they wish have to be secular reasons. Every single person in this country goes into the voting booth with their individual background, circumstances, morals, values and beliefs with them. Elections and ballot measures are not interested in WHY somebody voted for something, just that they DID.

Question to people like Laura

"People like Brad Pitt donated 100K to the NO campaign."

What are "people like Brad Pitt"?

Sokel

Let them move to Conneticut or Massachusetts...or
France. The people have spoken...We the people have
a right to protect what we do or do not find acceptable behavior.

TO JAN COLLINS

I hope you read the comments posted by "just some facts" posted at 1:35. Maybe YOU should get your facts straight before making such stupid remarks. There were MANY, MANY of us who joined with the Mormons working in Southern California to correct the travisty of justice brought on by four judges earlier this year. This issue was as much about the audacity of these judges - who, on thier own, stole the right of the voter to have his vote count. Just in case you have forgotten this is a government FOR THE PEOPLE BY THE PEOPLE. This issue was already decided on BY THE PEOPLE but was overturned by just these four judges. Prop 8 was just as much a voting rights issue as it was a was a moral issue. California voters WERE NOT all Mormons! They DID NOT even make up the majority of voters! Exactly what part of this is it you are not able to comprehend? WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE...postum?

dj

People who have that kind of money to donate.

Guapo

If the people in CA voted for YES on 8 they (ie gays, lesbians, and what every else you call the wackos) need to respect it. Not all California is all San Frqncisco and West Hollywood. If they do not like the way the vote came out GET OUT OF CA. Don't bnlame the churches because of your lifestyle change you have made. If you do not like it here MOVE OUT. No one is stopping you.

Anonymous

Has anyone else noticed that the Mormon Church leadership has not instructed its members to donate $20 million for a political campaign to end polygamy in Utah?

To Mumacita

As a Jew, I cannot let your post go by without comment.

Kristallnacht was a pogrom in Nazi Germany on November 910, 1938. On a single night, 92 Jews were murdered, and 25,00030,000 were arrested and deported to concentration camps. Tomorrow is the 70th anniversary of the horrific event.

Please do not compare the peaceful anti-8 demonstrations to this.

Steve

I'm going to gather my straight friends and I together and go protest in front of a gay club. This is stupid.

Rebutting so-called "God's Will"

"God's Will" posted:
"... It is human arrogance and foolishness to think that God could not have created mankind as a species that procreates asexually."

No, it's your total ignorance of historical and biological reality that could even create such a pretense. You're obviously not aware of the definition of "asexual":

1. Having no evident sex or sex organs; sexless.
2. Relating to, produced by, or involving reproduction that occurs without the union of male and female gametes, as in binary fission or budding.

Mankind produces sexually naturally through the union of a man and a woman. Assert otherwise, and you might as well be chasing rainbows and hunting unicorns.

"God also created mankind as a technology developing species. "If man were meant to fly, God would have given him wings!" So we invent airplanes and space flight."

Just because man can, doesn't mean man should. It's called "self-restraint," a concept radical gays don't seem to handle very well. The fruits of progress can be used for good or ill, but homosexual unions masquerading as "marriages" is not progress; they are only a pathetic approximation of the natural role of men and women and aren't conducive to healthy families.

Curt

I have a dear friend who attended the protest against the church for its stand against gay marriage. This lead to a discussion that exposed the hypocrisy of so many of those who marched at the temple. I asked her why she would hold the church accountable for it's position against gay marraige, but she voted for Barack Obama who repeated said and I qoute "marriage should be left between a man and a woman" How could they vote for a candidate whose open position is closer to the Mormon church's than there own. The Knight of Columbus was a huge contributor to fight this iniative, but not a single protest at the cathedral of the Madeliene. 52% of Californian's oppose gay marraige in one of the most liberal states outside of France.

To Anonymous from AZLDSGal

Polygamy in Utah is already illegal. Polygamy in this entire country is illegal. They can't prosecute them because they are not getting married by legal law. They marry the first wife by law and marry the rest by what "they believe" to be a spiritual marriage. You might want to check out a book once a while and read up on these things before you speak.

Anonymous

Hate state? Utah? Hmmm, sounds like the Utah I have known for many years. Too bad we continue to be like this.

Rover

RE: arc
the constitution will hang by a thread and orrin hatch will save it.

Or Mitt Romney.

Response to more lies from liars

What,

"You don't get it. Nobody is upset that people voted against it, they're upset that the church spent millions of dollars supporting any bill."

It's obvious you don't get it since:

1) this was not an bill. Please learn the difference between an initiative and a bill.

2) the LDS Church only made an in-kind donation of $2,078.97 which means that the Church reported money it spent in support of Proposition 8.

3) Individual Mormons donated and so did many others including Bruce Bastian, a non-Mormon, from Utah who donated 1 million to oppose Prop. 8. I suspect that the average donation of Mormons is $5,000.

We as individuals have a right to donate to any cause we choose and to be free from harassment when we choose to become involved in free elections. The Church did nothing different than the organizations who opposed Proposition 8 and many of them donated far more time, money and resources to oppose Prop. 8 so give it a rest.

Barbara Eades

As I read "a man and a woman" in Prop 8, I see nothing in that pertaining EXCLUSIVELY to same sex couples; however, it seems that for whatever reason or reasons, that seems to be what it evolved to. How did it come to this? Thank you Attorney General Jerry Brown, as it would appear the way you worded the information on the ballots regarding Prop 8 brought this on as exclusively pertaining to same sex couples. Woe is me! Seems to me like some people need to go back to school and learn to read or more importantly learn meanings of words. Obviously there are other situations that are not "a man and a woman"!!!

Anonymous

Do you think you are being original when you say the Adam and Steve bit? It is dull and stupid and if you think abut it God DID create Adam and Steve!!! And gays normally do come from heterosexual intercourse so can that mean that you breeders create gays and lesbians? Think about it

To the lying tyrant

Anonymous,

"Has anyone else noticed that the Mormon Church leadership has not instructed its members to donate $20 million for a political campaign to end polygamy in Utah?"

Polygamy isn't legal in Utah and Utah's Attorney General, a Mormon, has enforced the law. The lies will not work and you will prove to the world that you bigoted tyrants will do and say anything to force your opinion on the majority.

Anon

Imagine if, in deference to the self-esteem of lazy students and mathematical idiots, PI was declared by judges to be exactly 3.

This is precisely analogical to what the CA Supreme Court did in declaring marriage to be between two individuals regardless of sex.

The sole point of difference is that the inevitable damage from the stupidity of defining PI to be exactly 3 would occur almost immediately (any future engineering relying on PI would cease to function).

Dorias

I think it is time for Rocky Anderson to come out of the closet.

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