Comments about ‘Prop. 8 protest draws thousands in Salt Lake City’

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Published: Saturday, Nov. 8 2008 2:12 a.m. MST

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Laura

I can just imagine all these other Christian churches that have preached anti-Mormonism for years scratching their heads and wondering how the Mormons just saved the CA at the polls!

Paul

Equal rights will prevail. Years of history have proven it.

While religion supported and excused it. Eventually the slaves were freed.

While religion supported and excused it. Eventually women were free and not property of their husbands.

While religion was used to defend it. Eventually interracial couples could marry.

Equal rights will prevail. And we will not give up. We are here to fight until the end.

Fake Prop 8 Protesters...

The people protesting in Utah are not protesting prop 8, they are people who hate the mormon church. You can always get a bunch of people to come out and protest on any topic as long as its against the mormon churches views.

Things that make me go hummmm.

How can a practice that if truly adhered to would eliminate all those who practice it be something that God would allow on the earth? Last time I checked I takes and man and a woman to make a baby. If gays and lesbians stuck to what they claim to believe is their right, they would never have children and all would die off. HMMMMM. Do what is right let the consequence follow.

Boiseguy

Like I said earlier, this initiative will be overturned and ruled unconstitutional because it is. And then you all who are saying thankyou and spouting rants at gay protestors will be screaming bloody murder about activist judges and whatever other ilk you want to spout. If the judges do their job, and rule the way you don't like.. you attack them and call them activists and rogue judges... The finger pointing can go both ways. and what is right will prevail. Gay marriage will happen in this country. Question is, how will you conduct yourselves when it does happen because it will. Don't forget that there are now 3 other states that allow it. Its not going away. AND california will be the 4th once again when it is presented to the courts. Just like every other minority group fighting for civil rights. They won their cases through the courts. We use to have slave and free states, and wanted to keep it that way and call it states rights. I know everyone think they are right and feel strongly, but if you're fighting gay marriage you will be on the wrong side of history.
its coming! prepare yourself

The NIT

It's not a right!! You're not denied anything. The members of the LDS Church - and many other churches - have every right to support such an amendment in California and other states. It's just amazing what a half truth can do. Black people in the state and country should be deeply offended for ANY comparisons made to their struggles over the years. It's NOT the same - regardless of what is said by those who have chosen such lifestyles.

Prop 8 Volunteer in CA

What a wonderful opportunity and experience it has been to be part of the passing of Prop 8. It felt wonderful to be a pioneer in protecting the sanctity of marriage for future generations. LDS are only 2% of the population here in CA (800,000 which number includes under the age of 18) and over 5 million Californians voted in the election. I think it is wonderful that when the prophet asked us to support and get involved, LDS were the ones who stepped up and took a stand. I am proud of our efforts and am not shaken ONE BIT by the protests outside our temple. Let them protest all they want. The will of the people have spoken. Thank goodness for the Mormon church for taking a stand on these moral issues. This will only help those who are interested in the church to want to learn more about a church who is not willing to cave to social pressures but are willing to stand for truth and righteousness.

why?

how come there arn't any comments that are good against the gay population. i know alot of gay people and they are good people.

Give me liberty or death

The Associated Press published an article "Utah faces boycott after Mormon work for Prop 8." It outlines the following:

1) "At a fundamental level, the Utah Mormons crossed the line on this one," said gay rights activist John Aravosis, an influential blogger in Washington, D.C.
"They just took marriage away from 20,000 couples and made their children bastards," he said. "You don't do that and get away with it."

The proper definition of "bastard" is a child whose biological parents were not married at the time of their birth. So I doubt that any of these children suddenly became bastards.

2) "There's a movement afoot and large donors are involved who are very interested in organizing a campaign, because I do not believe in frivolous boycotts," and "The main focus is going to be going after the Utah brand," he said. "At this point, honestly, we're going to destroy the Utah brand. It is a hate state."

They have called for our tax-exempt status to be revoked but we must stand tall and even face the same level of persecution we have in the early Church if necessary. Tax my tithes and you will have to kill me.

jesuslovesyou

right now there is alot of division. but one day everybody will get along. just remember to believe in love. you might not be able to be legally married but know in your hearts that love holds you together.

Bob

I support peaceful demonstrations from anyone but I have a question.
So help me understand. Gays must not be Christian because God has clearly condemned it in the Bible. So the Gays not being Christian must believe in evolution. Oh but wait if they did they would not exist. So who are you and where do you come from?

The gays will never march in Compton nor vandalize a church in Compton because the the good people there would protect their property and kick the tar out of them.

Jeff

THIS IS SUCH A STUPID ARGUMENT!!! Take religion out of the equation. Think of it this way. You put 100 homosexuals on an island and return 50 years later. If the population has not grown, then there is something wrong. End of discussion.

Laura

The LA temple is the most beautiful edifice on that Santa Monica Blvd. It is sacred and should be treated with respect.

tc

I'm not sure how many mormons live in California, but the last results that I saw indicated that nearly 5.5 million people voted for proposition 8. I doubt that there are not even close to 1 million mormons of voting age in California - maybe 500,000... so who were the other 5 million that voted to ban same sex marriage? It seems to me, that the 500,000 or so mormons voting mormons in California might actually be the minority that believe marriage is between a man and a woman... but, we happen to be the easiest target... right? I'm not sure what the other churches teach about homosexuality, but I haven't heard of many that promote it.

I doubt that those that want to take away the churches tax exempt status will be able to show that funds went from members of the church, to the church, and then to activities that directly promoted voting one way or another on prop 8. Members are free to cast their votes any way they want (I voted for Obama.) We all know the church position on marriage, and most of us believe and support it - that's how we vote.

Webster's Dictionary

Marriage -- a : the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife b : the mutual relation of husband and wife c : the institution whereby men and women are joined in a special kind of social and legal dependence for the purpose of founding and maintaining a family.

Why have we not heard about rallies around Webster's corporate headquarters?

Proposition 8 is not about rights, it is about the definition of marriage.

Anyone sincerely interested in gaining an understanding of the LDS position should go to the Newsroom on lds.org and read the five page statement. There is no discrimination or taking away of rights.

There are wonderful and faithful gay and lesbian citizens of California who also voted for Proposition 8 along with Christians, Jews, Muslims and those adhering to Asian religions.

No one has explained or detailed the benefits to society of same sex marriage. What are they? What does history show on this issue?

To define marriage in any other way serves what purpose? What are the benefits to generations yet to come?

Please help us understand. What case would you present to your Maker on this issue?

millions???

how come no one is screaming about the millions and millions of "outside" money given to obama in untraceable prepaid credit cards...
lets be honest, that money didn't come from American's. or people who want to see America survive for that matter!

A Person

This is really frustrating. Ive grown tired of how hateful the Mormons are and how theyre so mean spirited and how dare they take a stance on this. If you dont like it move elsewhere (out of the US). I happen to love many homosexual people, but I still disagree with their opinions and so have 3 states. This is the power of Democracy. Its not bigotry, its not hatred (even though there are many that feel that way), and its not intolerance. Its a big win for democracy and those that stand for the traditional family. I think the biggest bigotry, hatred, and intolerance is directed at the LDS church. They have all the right in the world to disagree. I know many homosexuals are hurt but the voice of the people is clear. We profoundly share the belief of traditional marriage. This is our right.

RealistAZ

The people have spoken. This is not a poltical issue...It is a moral issue. It never should have even been up for vote, it has and always will be wrong. You are different, so stop trying to be like everyone else. The church of Jesus Christ of Later Day Saint only told the truth....this is what the majority believe in, that's why you are on the earth. Because your parents believed in it, or you would cease to exist. Take away this fundamental doctrine and humanity will no longer be. All who believe in such practices must not value their own life and the sacredness of their existence

Anonymous

If you lost the right to practice your religion or love your god, would you give up and move on? This will not end, ever! It will end up in the courts and the 14th amendment will prevail. Plessey vs Ferguson will not stand. This was not a matter of the church or a threat to the church or it's members. Simply intolerance of others!!!
As a non-profit entity, the church cannot lobby to the governments, but it's members can. The key is whether it legally can instruct the members to lobby for them. The ACLU needs to be involved with this, they are the professionals in matters related to civil liberties and law. Until then, keep being heard, yell, scream, become involved until the fear subsides. EQUAL RIGHTS FOR ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CA LDS

I am proud to be CA member of the Church. The protesters are doing exactly what they said "the church did." Instigating bigotry. It is sad that some try to change what has stood the test of time.

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