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Prop. 8 protest draws thousands in Salt Lake City
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CougarKeith | 10:51 p.m. Nov. 8, 2008
Homosexuals have the right to choose, just like a woman has the right to choose.
A woman's right to choose "Abortion" is the wrong choice in my
opinion, but she has that choice. A gay person's choice to excercise his
Gay tendancies to have sex with someone of the same gender is his/her choice and
nobody is trying to prevent that although many believe it to be wrong. However
trying to make it the NORM to be "Married" as a husband and wife have
had the RIGHT to be since the beginning of time is WRONG and beyond acceptable
in society. Why can't you just be "gay" about your ability to
have sex and a romantic relationship with someone of the same sex? Why do you
have to have this "In Your Face" attitude? It's wrong, and the
behavior is wrong, yet you push for more and more and more. GIVE IT UP! Be happy
with the perversions you excercise now, stop trying to push it down our throats!
Your downfall shouldn't be the downfall of the whole society!
CougarKeith | 10:59 p.m. Nov. 8, 2008
Fact: The Church has made it clear, the Savior has made it clear in the
scriptures! What else needs to be said? If your LDS and you don't agree
with the Church, then you obviously don't agree with the Savior because you
don't read about what he says in the SCRIPTURES ON HOMOSEXUALITY. Therefore
my suggestion is you do 1 of 2 things: 1. Repent and be sorry and get your act
together. 2. Ask your bishop to have your name removed from the church records
because you obviously don't agree with the Church's doctrines, nor
that of the SAVIORS DOCTRINE! With that as the case you are in a very sad lot of
selfishness and denial of what the Savior has said since the beginning of time,
and you are being a student of the Devil and what he wants you to believe. If
you have been to the temple, go back and PAY CLOSE ATTENTION! Your being dupped
my friends, and selfishness and pride are controlling your thoughts, not
humility, compassion and love. So many accuse the Church and it's members
of hate and persecution, when quite the opposite is true, we feel for them, and
love them.
georg | 11:10 p.m. Nov. 8, 2008
The people spoke. Marriage is between a Man and a women. It has being and it
will be. If those people want to push that again. we Will defeat them. We are
the majority. Thank goodness.
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To: Doodles | 11:11 p.m. Nov. 8, 2008
"I believe that those who choose to practice homosexuality damage
themselves and our society and its Christian virtues."
Thats your belief- but honestly how does allowing gays to marry damage your society and your "Christian" virtues?? Seriously they are not the ones trying to take your rights away! Personally I believe your opressive Christianity has done more to damage our society- which was founded in freedom and justice for ALL.
Thats your belief- but honestly how does allowing gays to marry damage your society and your "Christian" virtues?? Seriously they are not the ones trying to take your rights away! Personally I believe your opressive Christianity has done more to damage our society- which was founded in freedom and justice for ALL.
Sam | 11:19 p.m. Nov. 8, 2008
I am strong for PROP 8. I don't care if Gays marry, i really don't.
I just don't want my children being taught in school that this is natural.
Its not. I don't want children to be adopted into these gay marriages
either. Its not fair to the children. They have no choice. They end of having
a dad and a dad, not a dad and a mom. thats why I vote yes on 8
Clackey | 11:26 p.m. Nov. 8, 2008
Our "Non-member" friends here in California have been thanking us for
all of the work that we as members here did to get Prop 8 passed.
My prayer | 11:31 p.m. Nov. 8, 2008
is that Religion is abolished from the face of the earth. I feel in my heart
that I have a relationship with the Divine Creator, however the religious dogma
that causes our world to be divided is nothing more than religion. My
experience of being a part of the Mormon Church for nearly ten years, is that
its members are fully commited to an organization and rarely do they have a
relationship with the Infinite. When we as a people can learn to love each
other unconditionaly without any strings attached, then and only then can we
grow as a people. When we continually want to prove that our way is the right
way, all we are doing is strengthening our egos. I have know ill will to any of
the Mormon population or the Mormon Church, it is all that you know.....When the
LDS Church is pushing their agenda on people who are not interested, people who
live their lives through spirit realize their egos are doing all the talking.
Have a great night....Love
Barakobama | 11:33 p.m. Nov. 8, 2008
Our new elect president said it. Marriage is between a man and a woman. Thank
you very much
RSL Forever | 11:35 p.m. Nov. 8, 2008
I'd like to thank all the out-of-state gay people who stayed in Salt Lake
County hotels for helping pay for RSL's new stadium.
:O
Bring more people next time - we need more TRT funds for the expo center/arts district/acquarium/etc... My heartfelt apology to Utahns who havn't stayed in a Utah hotel in the last 10 years who think THEIR tax dollars have gone to the stadium.
:O
Bring more people next time - we need more TRT funds for the expo center/arts district/acquarium/etc... My heartfelt apology to Utahns who havn't stayed in a Utah hotel in the last 10 years who think THEIR tax dollars have gone to the stadium.
Wow | 11:44 p.m. Nov. 8, 2008
This is crazy. So, you can't get married. Too bad so sad. The only
reason why most of the Gay/Lesbian population wanted this to pass was to have
society giving them a pat on the back a hey it's o.k. to live this type of
lifestyle. Well, at least you are not being attacked for your lifestyle choice
just for your wanting need to feel normal. Well, the masses have spoken and
your lifestyle choice isn't going to get the green light from the masses.
Keep living how you live; but, sorry marriage is between a man and a woman. Not
a man and a man or a man and a cat etc.
By protesting it just shows that you can't accept the facts. That even though a judge granted a right that he didn't have the power to grant. That the checks and balances of the popular vote vetoed his decision.
By protesting it just shows that you can't accept the facts. That even though a judge granted a right that he didn't have the power to grant. That the checks and balances of the popular vote vetoed his decision.
George | 11:46 p.m. Nov. 8, 2008
re: MoHo | 8:01 p.m. Nov. 8, 2008
Ditto.
Ditto.
Sick of Prop 8 | 11:48 p.m. Nov. 8, 2008
Let's move on.
George | 11:56 p.m. Nov. 8, 2008
re: Revoke tax exempt status | 6:05 a.m. Nov. 8, 2008
Give me a break. How many times did Obama, Cinton, ad naseum go to various democrat/left leaning churches and blame Bush and other republicans for all of the evil that is going on in this world.
Yes, please IRS, go after ALL these churches that decide to mix religion and politics. No exceptions.
Give me a break. How many times did Obama, Cinton, ad naseum go to various democrat/left leaning churches and blame Bush and other republicans for all of the evil that is going on in this world.
Yes, please IRS, go after ALL these churches that decide to mix religion and politics. No exceptions.
Cheryl | 11:58 p.m. Nov. 8, 2008
Welcome to our lovely city. Notice the cleanliness, the courteous people, the
order and the unique beauty of our families. Our city was scratched out of the
desert by the ancestors of the citizens you are protesting. This grit is
generational as is the depth of our faith and our testimony. It is probably not
anything you will ever understand. We have been bullied before and grown
stronger. Our concerns are multi-generational and are more profound than you
could understand in a short commercial or soundbite. How arrogant and terrifying
to assume that one is wiser than thousands of years of tradition, not to mention
the Father of us all. How foolish to try to wipe out generations of wisdom in
one generation. Are your motives truly unselfish? I wonder. I wish you could
have seen the face of my teenage daughter that we adopted overseas a year ago
when I asked her if she would like to have been adopted by two moms or two dads.
It spoke volumes. By the way, if an earthquake leveled S.F.,I along with
hundreds of other Mormons would be on the frontlines helping you out. Can you
wrap your brain around that?
To my fellow Mormons | 11:59 p.m. Nov. 8, 2008
I think its inappropriate in most cases to be quoting scriptures to these people
that are already feel hurt by this situation.
I fully support Propostion 8 and donated to the cause but rubbing it in by reading scriptures that make you sound like their personal judge seems against the counsel of our church to not vilify or be disrespectful in this situation.
Please be careful about how you talk to our brothers and sisters and remember to be respectful.
I fully support Propostion 8 and donated to the cause but rubbing it in by reading scriptures that make you sound like their personal judge seems against the counsel of our church to not vilify or be disrespectful in this situation.
Please be careful about how you talk to our brothers and sisters and remember to be respectful.
multiply and replenish the earth | 12:07 a.m. Nov. 9, 2008
was in the beginning...for a man and a woman...it takes this to do that. That is
what marriage is all about and has been since the beginning. Marriage is fot
this and for raising and protecting the children of that marriage. How do two
men, or two women multiply and replenish the earth. Gay marriage is conterfiet
marriage in the sigtht of God, man, and His church. The mother of the human
race, created by God was Eve, not Steve. Get with it people. Just because they
want it does not mean that they should have it.
Susan | 12:07 a.m. Nov. 9, 2008
the lord teaches us not to judge one another.
Re: My Prayer | 12:15 a.m. Nov. 9, 2008
People of various faiths can still love gays and lesbians unconditionally and
vote their conscious. Just because I don't want to teach my kids in school
that being gay is OK doesn't mean I don't love someone. That is a
far-fetched accusation that protecting my children means I don't have
unconditional love. Not supporting proposition would be unconditional stupidity
and unconditional irresponsibility on my part as a parent.
By the way, I do have a love for the infinite and a relationship with him as well as people of many faiths and religions who voted down gay marriage. I am not sure who "the infinite" is to you but if he is the god of the Bible then I don't think you understand the scriptures so try reading them again. If he is another God then you should know that this country is a Christian nation which was founded on Christian principles. The founding fathers taught that the constitution was designed for a virtuous, God-fearing people and would work for none-other. The People have the ability to lose true freedom if they vote to do so against righteous principles. Freedom was preserved.
By the way, I do have a love for the infinite and a relationship with him as well as people of many faiths and religions who voted down gay marriage. I am not sure who "the infinite" is to you but if he is the god of the Bible then I don't think you understand the scriptures so try reading them again. If he is another God then you should know that this country is a Christian nation which was founded on Christian principles. The founding fathers taught that the constitution was designed for a virtuous, God-fearing people and would work for none-other. The People have the ability to lose true freedom if they vote to do so against righteous principles. Freedom was preserved.
Friend of Plain & Simple | 12:25 a.m. Nov. 9, 2008
As posted by "To Doodles":
"..how does allowing gays to marry damage your society and your "Christian" virtues??"
Allowing gays to REDEFINE marriage to include same-sex relationships damages society first and foremost by ceating the illusion that gay relationships contribute to subsequent generations no differently than straight relationships.
The former cannot and will never contribute to child-bearing and raising in the same way that the latter, as a man and a woman are crucial to creating a child in the first place, and a mother and a father are both key components to that child's well-being throughout life.
Some traditional families are deprived of such an ideal by circumstance, not choice. However, in all homosexual unions, such a deprivation is purely by choice. The mindset that says, "One type of parent (mother or father) is good enough for my kid" is borne out of selfishness, not out of what's best for children.
I'm a parent, and there's no way on earth I'd ever wish upon my children (or other children) a situation where they couldn't enjoy having parents of both sexes and realize the unique contributions that only a father or only a mother could bring to their lives.
"..how does allowing gays to marry damage your society and your "Christian" virtues??"
Allowing gays to REDEFINE marriage to include same-sex relationships damages society first and foremost by ceating the illusion that gay relationships contribute to subsequent generations no differently than straight relationships.
The former cannot and will never contribute to child-bearing and raising in the same way that the latter, as a man and a woman are crucial to creating a child in the first place, and a mother and a father are both key components to that child's well-being throughout life.
Some traditional families are deprived of such an ideal by circumstance, not choice. However, in all homosexual unions, such a deprivation is purely by choice. The mindset that says, "One type of parent (mother or father) is good enough for my kid" is borne out of selfishness, not out of what's best for children.
I'm a parent, and there's no way on earth I'd ever wish upon my children (or other children) a situation where they couldn't enjoy having parents of both sexes and realize the unique contributions that only a father or only a mother could bring to their lives.
Re: Doodles | 12:32 a.m. Nov. 9, 2008
Dear Doodles,
Actually, our freedom was founded on Christian principles. This is a Christian nation who's constitution was based on principles found in the Bible. Your freedom was founded on Christianity and if it weren't for God you would not even have your freedom.
You don't even know your country's own heritage. The Founding Father's always recognized the hand of divine providence from the God of the Bible but shunned any state-sponsored religion by a specific church.
BTW, atheism or humanism is its own religion so saying that you don't want to have Christian values pushed on you is really saying you want to push your humanistic religions on us - which will actually destroy the freedom of this country.
If you don't like living in a Christian land you don't have to live here. Christians accept and love people from all religions but they don't have to give up the values of religion our freedoms are founded on. You are free to practice whatever kind of lifestyle you want, even if it is perverted but don't pervert the values of this great country by changing its laws - keep it to yourself.
Actually, our freedom was founded on Christian principles. This is a Christian nation who's constitution was based on principles found in the Bible. Your freedom was founded on Christianity and if it weren't for God you would not even have your freedom.
You don't even know your country's own heritage. The Founding Father's always recognized the hand of divine providence from the God of the Bible but shunned any state-sponsored religion by a specific church.
BTW, atheism or humanism is its own religion so saying that you don't want to have Christian values pushed on you is really saying you want to push your humanistic religions on us - which will actually destroy the freedom of this country.
If you don't like living in a Christian land you don't have to live here. Christians accept and love people from all religions but they don't have to give up the values of religion our freedoms are founded on. You are free to practice whatever kind of lifestyle you want, even if it is perverted but don't pervert the values of this great country by changing its laws - keep it to yourself.
Re: To Doodles | 12:34 a.m. Nov. 9, 2008
See Re:Doodles - really meant for you.
The Rock | 12:35 a.m. Nov. 9, 2008
Liberals always look to the courts to win what they cannot win at tha ballot
box.
Want to be call a really bad name? Just disagree with a liberal.
Disagree with the gay activists and you are a homophobe.
Disagree with Obama and you are a racists.
Try to rein in the excesses of Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac when they brought affirmative action to the mortgages and you are a racists.
Disagree with abortion and you are a sexist.
They have names at the ready for every occasion.
Want to be call a really bad name? Just disagree with a liberal.
Disagree with the gay activists and you are a homophobe.
Disagree with Obama and you are a racists.
Try to rein in the excesses of Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac when they brought affirmative action to the mortgages and you are a racists.
Disagree with abortion and you are a sexist.
They have names at the ready for every occasion.
different perspective | 12:37 a.m. Nov. 9, 2008
it seems to me that everyone is overlooking the fact that everyones rights have
been affected not just the GLBT community. I no longer have the right to marry a
man due to prop 8 just as any gay man. homosexuality is defined as a sexual
attraction to the same sex, they still have the right to marry an opposite sex
person, but choose to ignore this right of theirs because of where their sexual
preference lies. it seems all very ridiculous to me that laws should have to
argued around the sexual preference of a minority
Sislis from Spain | 1:13 a.m. Nov. 9, 2008
why are the protestors complaining. A vote was put, all those wishing to vote
did so, and the outcome, legaland fair was not to their liking. Tough. It must
also be pointed out that LDS. are not the only religious group involved, so
where are the pickets outside other religious buildings??? Could it be because
"they", the pickets, know that the laws of God and of the mass of
people are the same. Marriage is between man and woman, always has been, and,
one hopes, always will be.
hello | 1:17 a.m. Nov. 9, 2008
I could not agree more with the comment posted above by "Hello my fellow
Mormons". It is true that Prop 8 is the correct choice, but by quoting
scripture especially the B.O.M we (as members of Gods true church) are, in a
way, not loving them, but bashing with them and one thing we can not do is
convince them of their sin. Love the sinner hate the sin!
boldlygo | 1:29 a.m. Nov. 9, 2008
Sadly, i suspect most of you posting on this site do not know a gay person - and
within your own families likely someone who is gay would not come out in such a
hostile environment. Likely these are your sons, daughers, brother, sisters, who
for reasons unclear to you leave the state, and go to NY or California to find
happiness and peace. So you all reinforce your beliefs and alleged
"knowledge" with each other, never gaining any fresh perspective from
an intimate one to one talk with maybe someone you love, who happens to be gay.
If you had that talk, I think your eyes would open to the subtle truths of what
is universal - the need to love, be accepted, and belief in your fellow man.
This was what was all shattered with Prop 8
end of time | 1:40 a.m. Nov. 9, 2008
Think for a moment.
If we allowed a small state like NH to have only married gay couples.
Refused to let any gay couples in that state adopt children.
Within 2 generations all the married gay couples in NH would be gone.
Not quoting scripture-
God didn't set up the Garden of Eden with Adam marrying Bruce and Eve marrying Beth.
This earth life we have known would have ended.
Satan knew it- God knew it.
Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed for their own sakes.
If we allowed a small state like NH to have only married gay couples.
Refused to let any gay couples in that state adopt children.
Within 2 generations all the married gay couples in NH would be gone.
Not quoting scripture-
God didn't set up the Garden of Eden with Adam marrying Bruce and Eve marrying Beth.
This earth life we have known would have ended.
Satan knew it- God knew it.
Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed for their own sakes.
wayne | 1:42 a.m. Nov. 9, 2008
to sureshot 2:16
you say that you do not have the same rights as "married" people. civil unions gives you every right a married person has with the lone exception of the name.
why do you feel that you are being discriminated against? because prop 8 vacated the special protections and case law you needed to push your agenda forward and down the necks of unsupecting people.
How can you say that you should have the same leagle protections granted minorites espcailly African-Amaricans. have you gone through what that community had gone through simply for having more skin pigment. how about women and the handicaped. they are easy to see and understand why they were granted special protections the kind the california supream court gave the homosexual communities.
the only way to identify a homosexual is by his or her, its behavior. that is why the vast majority of minorites blacks and hispanics voted for prop 8.
so why attack or protest against the church. maybe because mormons have been discriminated against more than any other religious organization in this nation. maybe because they get a pass for attacking mormons.
so just how is bigited here? it's not the mormons.
you say that you do not have the same rights as "married" people. civil unions gives you every right a married person has with the lone exception of the name.
why do you feel that you are being discriminated against? because prop 8 vacated the special protections and case law you needed to push your agenda forward and down the necks of unsupecting people.
How can you say that you should have the same leagle protections granted minorites espcailly African-Amaricans. have you gone through what that community had gone through simply for having more skin pigment. how about women and the handicaped. they are easy to see and understand why they were granted special protections the kind the california supream court gave the homosexual communities.
the only way to identify a homosexual is by his or her, its behavior. that is why the vast majority of minorites blacks and hispanics voted for prop 8.
so why attack or protest against the church. maybe because mormons have been discriminated against more than any other religious organization in this nation. maybe because they get a pass for attacking mormons.
so just how is bigited here? it's not the mormons.
Plain & Simple | 1:50 a.m. Nov. 9, 2008
To Straight Guy for Gay Rights: You define marriage and you will get the good
reason you are looking for.
kid | 2:03 a.m. Nov. 9, 2008
Gays will never be satisfied because they know what they are doing is wrong and
they just want another way to justify their actions... hate to break it to you,
but prop 8 or any other law will never satisfy your insatiable appetites for
that which unnatural. Yep i said unnatural, face the facts of your problem by
yourself and quit making it everyone elses problem!
Plain & Simple | 2:04 a.m. Nov. 9, 2008
To John: Define marriage. If you use the word as we know it from any
dictionary it is impossible for two person of the same sex to be married. What
they have is a civil union. No one is taking their right away from being
together. We merely ask to let words mean what they mean and stop trying to
change the language until we no longer understand one another.
Plain & Simple | 2:16 a.m. Nov. 9, 2008
To reason: What is your source of Mormons giving 40% of the money for Prop 8.
Do you people just pick a number and we are all supposed to accept it as a fact?
wayne | 2:17 a.m. Nov. 9, 2008
patty 4:27you have some unresoved issues. I sugest calling Dr. loura on monday.
did you read the post delivered at the same time "did anyone ask the blacks?". this teacher gave a stark response from her research. you should ask some blacks why they supported prop 8 like this good teacher did.
blacks and hispanics voted overwellmingly in support of prop 8. the no on prop 8 should look at there actions in the black urban communities as a source of defeat.
stop spewing hate against the mormons. a little over $2000 doesn't seem like a reason to show so much hate against mormons.
did you read the post delivered at the same time "did anyone ask the blacks?". this teacher gave a stark response from her research. you should ask some blacks why they supported prop 8 like this good teacher did.
blacks and hispanics voted overwellmingly in support of prop 8. the no on prop 8 should look at there actions in the black urban communities as a source of defeat.
stop spewing hate against the mormons. a little over $2000 doesn't seem like a reason to show so much hate against mormons.
Plain & Simple | 2:19 a.m. Nov. 9, 2008
To Blue: Nice dodge of the question. If name calling is your best shot no
wonder you side can't win on the arguments when put to the vote of the
people.
Plain & Simple | 3:07 a.m. Nov. 9, 2008
The coalition is not going away.
The Prop 8 California coalition of protectmarriage will stay together to defned marriage. GLAD is mad they have a political challenge. They thought they held all the political clout over our elected officials. We will hold elected officials accountable. We will be watching the mayors of Los Angeles and San Diego, assembleymen and state senators who ignored the will of the people and sued the very people who elected them. For too long the gay community has held them hostage. They have no family and lots of free time to lobby and strategize. We have found our voices now and will be heard. We might have families to take care of, kids to take to soccer practice and other interests besides our jobs. However, we have learned how to manage our time to devote to a cause that is just. We are not going away. We have as much resolve and tenacity as our opponents, who with their tantrums have awakened a sleeping giant. We will challenge every unjust judicial decision, every school board member who promotes the disintegration of marriage and every other politician you thought you had in your back pocket.
The Prop 8 California coalition of protectmarriage will stay together to defned marriage. GLAD is mad they have a political challenge. They thought they held all the political clout over our elected officials. We will hold elected officials accountable. We will be watching the mayors of Los Angeles and San Diego, assembleymen and state senators who ignored the will of the people and sued the very people who elected them. For too long the gay community has held them hostage. They have no family and lots of free time to lobby and strategize. We have found our voices now and will be heard. We might have families to take care of, kids to take to soccer practice and other interests besides our jobs. However, we have learned how to manage our time to devote to a cause that is just. We are not going away. We have as much resolve and tenacity as our opponents, who with their tantrums have awakened a sleeping giant. We will challenge every unjust judicial decision, every school board member who promotes the disintegration of marriage and every other politician you thought you had in your back pocket.
Plain & Simple | 3:22 a.m. Nov. 9, 2008
To Anonymous at 10:45 a.m.: Marriage has always been defined between a man and
a woman, in all societies and religions. They numbers may have changed at times
depending on the society and religion (See Old Testament and Muslim to name two
others besides early Mormonism), but it was never with members of the same sex.
Daniel | 3:26 a.m. Nov. 9, 2008
Being straight doesn't mean you get special rights either! The bigoted
majority who voted in California's Prop 8 have crossed the line between
church and state FORCING THEIR RELIGIOUS BELIEF into law. They are saying that
others who do not share their belief or even churches who support gay marriage
may not do so. That is immoral, unconstitutional, and downright selfish and
evil. Your religious freedoms ends where my civil rights begin.
Plain & Simple | 3:34 a.m. Nov. 9, 2008
To Boyd Henderson:
"God said it is not good for man to be alone." You conveniently left out what God did about it. May I remind you he created Eve, a woman not a man. If you would look in any dictionary you would see that marriage is a union of a man and a woman as husband and wife. By definition gays cannot be married. They can live together and if they have enough clout as in California they even can get laws passed to give them all the same rights and privileges as married people. So it is not about rights but about what they call their living arrangement that has sparked all the protests.
"God said it is not good for man to be alone." You conveniently left out what God did about it. May I remind you he created Eve, a woman not a man. If you would look in any dictionary you would see that marriage is a union of a man and a woman as husband and wife. By definition gays cannot be married. They can live together and if they have enough clout as in California they even can get laws passed to give them all the same rights and privileges as married people. So it is not about rights but about what they call their living arrangement that has sparked all the protests.
Plain & Simple | 4:42 a.m. Nov. 9, 2008
To @ Plain and Simple:
�Up until last Tuesday gay couples had the legal right to marry in California . . .
Marriage, along with being a symbolic act to formalize a commitment made by a couple, is first
and foremost a civil issue.. . .� Please define marriage for me. Here is my definition a union
between a man and a woman as husband and wife. Therefor by definition gay couples cannot
marry. They have a civil union. The fact that you and your partner have been together for 25
years and want the same rights and protections has been granted in the California Family Code. I
am assuming you are a Californian since Prop 8 only affected citizens of that state.
�Up until last Tuesday gay couples had the legal right to marry in California . . .
Marriage, along with being a symbolic act to formalize a commitment made by a couple, is first
and foremost a civil issue.. . .� Please define marriage for me. Here is my definition a union
between a man and a woman as husband and wife. Therefor by definition gay couples cannot
marry. They have a civil union. The fact that you and your partner have been together for 25
years and want the same rights and protections has been granted in the California Family Code. I
am assuming you are a Californian since Prop 8 only affected citizens of that state.
TW | 5:10 a.m. Nov. 9, 2008
OF COURSE EVERYONE IS GOING TO PICK ON THE LDS CHURCH ! BECAUSE THE LDS CHURCH
STANDS FOR WHAT THEY BELIEVE AND THEY DON'T WAIVER FOR NOBODY ! NOT
CELEBRITIES OR ANYTHING OF THE WORLD !
I LOVE THIS CHURCH !!!!
I LOVE THIS CHURCH !!!!
THECHURCHISTRUE | 5:18 a.m. Nov. 9, 2008
We don't care THAT YOUR'VE LEFT THE CHURCH it's YOUR MORTALITY
THAT YOU'VE LOST BUDDY !!! TALK TO THE LORD WHEN THE SECOND COMING COMES
!!!
THE CHURCH WILL CONTINUE TO GROW WITH OR WITHOUT YOU BUT YOU KNOW IT'S TRUE AND it's your loss really !!!
IT'S FUNNY THAT THE MORMONS ARE THE ONES BEING ATTACKED MORE THAN THE GAYS MAYBE THEY SHOULD BE THE ONES PICKETING !!! OTHER RELIGIONS WERE PART OF THIS TOO ???
THE CHURCH WILL CONTINUE TO GROW WITH OR WITHOUT YOU BUT YOU KNOW IT'S TRUE AND it's your loss really !!!
IT'S FUNNY THAT THE MORMONS ARE THE ONES BEING ATTACKED MORE THAN THE GAYS MAYBE THEY SHOULD BE THE ONES PICKETING !!! OTHER RELIGIONS WERE PART OF THIS TOO ???
Why the Surprise? | 6:13 a.m. Nov. 9, 2008
The LDS was the major money and manpower force behind passing Prop 8. Be proud,
you bought and paid for it. But with actions come consequences, the LDS Church
is now officially the most anti-gay organization in this nation.
Watch the news | 6:33 a.m. Nov. 9, 2008
Do the gay activist watch the news. Fox news reported that the reason Prop 8
passed was because the african-american people turned out in record numbers to
vote for Obama. These people have high family values and believe marriage
should be between a man and a woman and they voted that way. Its just not the
LDS church that have these values but the majority of americans believe this
way. Gay activist want tolerance and understanding but they do not show any
towards other groups.
Domestic partnership | 7:23 a.m. Nov. 9, 2008
Read the following and then, other than reinterpreting the word marriage, what
legal right was lost?
297.5. (a) Registered domestic partners shall have the same rights,
protections, and benefits, and shall be subject to the same
responsibilities, obligations, and duties under law, whether they
derive from statutes, administrative regulations, court rules,
government policies, common law, or any other provisions or sources
of law, as are granted to and imposed upon spouses.
297.5. (a) Registered domestic partners shall have the same rights,
protections, and benefits, and shall be subject to the same
responsibilities, obligations, and duties under law, whether they
derive from statutes, administrative regulations, court rules,
government policies, common law, or any other provisions or sources
of law, as are granted to and imposed upon spouses.
To Susan: | 7:26 a.m. Nov. 9, 2008
If the Lord teaches us not to judge one another, then why do we have courts and
judges?
Now I Know | 7:29 a.m. Nov. 9, 2008
I've been undecided on this issue, but now watching the reaction of the gay
community to a legal and fair vote of the people I cannot choose their side. It
is obvious the gay agenda goes far beyond this ballot. Thankd you for your
immature handling of the loss...it tells me all I need to know about your
complete lack of character, and morals. Would the "Mormons" be acting
like this if prop 8 had been defeated? No.
David | 7:41 a.m. Nov. 9, 2008
The amendment to define marriage took away NO civil rights from anyone. If you
are homosexual, you may still vote. If you are homosexual, you may still own a
firearm and etc. Again, no civil rights were lost. You also retain the same
rights under the domestic partner law, which unmarried heterosexual couples may
not participate, as married spouses. The only difference is that your
committed and legal relationship remains a domestic partnership while a
heterosexual couple is either only "shacking up" or is equally legally
protected as the domestic partnership and married.
In Jesus' Name Amen! | 8:07 a.m. Nov. 9, 2008
Bigotry, particularly in the name of Jesus, is never justified. The Inquisition
was based on the same logic. So were the Salem witch trials and Cotton Mather.
Thanks, really | 8:11 a.m. Nov. 9, 2008
"I think its inappropriate in most cases to be quoting scriptures to these
people that are already feel hurt by this situation.
I fully support Propostion 8 and donated to the cause but rubbing it in by reading scriptures that make you sound like their personal judge seems against the counsel of our church to not vilify or be disrespectful in this situation.
Please be careful about how you talk to our brothers and sisters and remember to be respectful."
Thanks for this post. Unfortunately, self-righteousness has overtaken the proud. Or maybe pride has overtaken the self-righteous. Either way.....
I fully support Propostion 8 and donated to the cause but rubbing it in by reading scriptures that make you sound like their personal judge seems against the counsel of our church to not vilify or be disrespectful in this situation.
Please be careful about how you talk to our brothers and sisters and remember to be respectful."
Thanks for this post. Unfortunately, self-righteousness has overtaken the proud. Or maybe pride has overtaken the self-righteous. Either way.....
Mormons Disgust Me | 8:23 a.m. Nov. 9, 2008
There are more homosexuals in the world than Mormons by far. Do you want us to
vote on your religion?
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