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Published: Saturday, Nov. 8 2008 2:12 a.m. MST

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RosaMaria

As member of the Church we need to be civilized. If we go there mantain the calm. Do not get involved with the gay and their rethoric.

Give me a break!

Gay people quit trying to blame your sins and unhappeness on the LDS Church and try not to be such bigots. If you don't like Utah, MOVE! By, By! Have a nice life. By.......

John Pack Lambert

To Facts,
Living in southern California does not give you knowledge of everything. The Church never encoraged members outside of California to participate in this battle, only inside of California.
Some members outside chose to participate, but the letters were only read in Sacrament meeting in California.
At least hear in Michigan we were never urged through Church channels to participate with Proposition 8.

hum

This is actually amazing. Never in the church history has its own members demonstrated at Temple Square to this degree and intensity. This is actually historic.

I'm ashamed

I am a CA member of the LDS church who supports the precepts of democracy and protesting is one of those tenets. I may not always agree with the cause but I agree with the right to voice your opinion

Many of the posts on this article are from members of my Church voicing their opinions about gays and the protesters and I am ashamed to associate myself with those members. I love the Church but the general disdain for others demonstrated by so many of us on this post is abhorrent.

It's a sad day when members of our Church look down on others who are voicing what they believe to be an injustice and we turn a cold shoulder. Irrespective of their cause, we ought to hold ourselves to a higher standard. Our members have left a black eye on the face of our Church.

Gay can drink from same fountain

To: "Re: True ignorance,"

"Homosexuals rights as CITIZENS of our country is being infringed upon by a small group of people who believe they have SPIRITUAL PRIVILEGES."

If you remove marriage from the equation and use freedom of speech as the guide you recognize how ridiculous your claims are. But I guess that the government is required to publish your opinions instead of just not violating your right to do so yourself.

"What would of happened if courts left the rights of blacks in the hands of the majority? They would still be eating in black only diners and walking on the other side of the street. Sometimes it takes someone wiser than the majority."

Then the majority doesn't make law and we don't even need to vote. We can just let the Courts pass all of our laws since only those they approve of become the law since they are the lawmakers who want to deceive us into thinking that our vote actually matters and that when we go to the ballot we have a say.

This has nothing to do with blacks and it is insulting to us to suggest otherwise since none of your rights are violated.

anne

You say we made the hysteria now deal?

Is this another example of something you were born to?

Someone/something made you do it? You have no control over your hysteria? You are not capable of exhibiting adult behaviour?

I am assuming you are adults. Right? Aren't you responsible for your own behaviour?

You can't be responsible for a black skin. Your behaviour will never change your skin color. And why should it? Skin color has no behavioural aspect.
If you are truly born homosexual it does not mean you have to live a gay lifestyle. We all have our own weaknesses. We are adults and must learn to deal with those. Not give in to them because we were 'born that way'.
If members of the church behave in a way that is violent, insulting, misleading for real, then it has nothing to do with the church. It is their individual choice to behave that way. The church has asked us to behave civiley etc. Most of us will. Some may not.
Can you say the same? I hope so. Let's find common ground. Do not know what that might be but it is out there.
Peace.

Bayou Vol

Section 501 of the tax code states that the LDS church can spend $225,000 plus 5% of the tithing (and other donations) they receive over $1,500,000. Considering the amount they receive in tithing alone, I am sure that they did not come close to approaching the limit. It sounds to me like what we have is just a bunch of sore losers who can't or chose not to interpret the law. sec 501(H)

The limits in 501 (c) say "except as provided in sec. H"

Oh no!!!

Prop 8 passes due to a significant effort from the members of the LDS faith. As already stated, many, many other religious, civic, and social groups contributed as well. But the LDS church is singled out. It really is almost funny, and frankly, I don't think it is at all surprising to the members of the church. We get it...you don't like us. That's OK. You didn't really like us before Prop 8 passed, did you?

The GLT movement is now considering a boycott of Utah. What will we possibly do without the estimated $6B? You know what? Please follow through with your threats to boycott Utah. Don't come fill our ski resorts, our restaurants, our hotels, our members-only clubs that you love to mock. We will be fine without your money and your influence, thank you.

For those who adhere to the belief in modern-day prophets and ongoing revelation, this sort of behavior is not one bit surprising. We will continue to watch with a steadfast hope.

Courts delegate lawmaking to us

Ezra Brown,

"The comments here are caustic, cynical and rude. So much nastiness expressed by supposed Christians. Its embarrassing to know that fellow Mormons think and express such deeply hate filled rhetoric toward Gods children who dont think like them."

I can't speak for anyone else but I have had it with being called names because I want my votes to count and to have a say and not be told "This door is wide open. And it is here to stay whether you like it or not" with an arrogant smirk that these tyrants often find humorous.

This isn't about their rights because we don't want to violate their rights but their hateful actions are offensive to those of us who care about our right to vote and who think that when we vote it should actually matter. This is a stupid game and the majority doesn't make law and I'm never voting again. I'm done with a system that allows Courts to delegate their authority to make laws to voters and their representatives until they decide to take it back up and nullify those laws they don't agree with.

Why not just let them do it all.

Jeremyinitalia

No change in rights..the civil rights argument is false:

Section 297.5 of the California Family Code reads:
297.5. (a) Registered domestic partners shall have the same
rights, protections, and benefits, and shall be subject to the same
responsibilities, obligations, and duties under law, whether they
derive from statutes, administrative regulations, court rules,
government policies, common law, or any other provisions or sources
of law, as are granted to and imposed upon spouses.

Joseph McCarthy

Let's purge California, and then the United States, of all homophobes!!! Let's track down every single person who donated time and/or money to the 'Yes on 8' campaign!! Let's riot and block places of worship that supported this vile, intolorant legislation!!

Who will join me in my witch hunt against the majority who selfishly wants to retain their rights??! How dare they engage in the Democratic process and pass such intolorant legislation!! Do the homophobes honestly think this is a free country or something?

Target, track, attack! KILL!!!!!

Don't forget your torches and pitch-forks! Guns and explosives would ceartainly help! With all those who oppose the gay minority thrusting its agenda upon the majority and forcing all of society to conform killed, we, the gay rights activists, can hypocriticaly draft another amandment to overthrough Prop 8. Then we can, hypocriticaly, can take advantage of the democratic process with none to oppose us!!

Vote?

Vote? What is a vote? I thought it was the right to represent my views as to how my society and its governance ought to proceed. I thought the majority ruled in a republic democracy such as the United States. Hum, rioting against the majority vote. Oh-Oh-No! Ouch,Bam, Oops- sorry, I forgot, I don't have any rights unless they are monitored and approved by such minority violent groups as gays and lesbians.

rjf

There California is about 2% residents of members lds or 750,000. But Residents of African American are more than members lds as about 2,269,200. Why angry protesters stood front of LA Temple. They are blame Mormon or/and other Religions for everything!

boycott?

PLEASE boycott sundance
Please boycott our ski resorts
then WE can go!!!

Robert Johnson

The mormon church help fund a campaign based on lies and deceit.

I hope all the mormons who contributed are proud that their money promulgated blatant lies. I know that Christ would be proud that a people who claim to take his name engaged in such a deceptive and despicable campaign.

Watcher

Job 12: 23 "He makes nations great, and destroys them;He enlarges nations, and guides them.
24 He takes away the understanding of the chiefs of the people of the earth, And makes them wander in a pathless wilderness."

And what a state of confusion California is sinking into! The smartest statement I have seen
by anyone on these forums was from a person who
said he is training to be a divorce lawyer in California - specializing in gay divorce. He
expects to make a lot of money.
God's message is written in nature. Homosexuality
is anti-nature. Our nation used to keep our most
precious possession (the Bible) with us always. Then
we started going after "things" and have left our
Bible somewhere and forgotten it. God calls us
back and invites us to seek His Word, and then
He will give us life abundant.

2 Chronicles 7:14 "if My people who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land."

Aaron

Mormon = Hate

aj

Cecil B. DeMille once said, "You can break yourself against the Ten Commandments, but you cannot break the Commandments."

John Pack Lambert

I say do not bother to protest the legislators, work to get them defeated in the next election, but protesting at their homes will do no good.
I am just wondering if the Utah Democrat Party still thinks it is on the verge of a come back. WIth three of its elected members joining a protest against the LDS Church it does not seem to be working on its get the LDS in line with us strategy.

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