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Published: Wednesday, Nov. 5 2008 12:29 a.m. MST

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Duh

This is where Utah makes the stand........yeah right! Lets see how the UTES feel at the end of this one. Hope its good but, I doubt it.

Maddog

Sorry Utes but you have been exposed thanks to New Mexico. Johnson can plan on looking up from the ground all night long and the running game will be shut down.

TheHailstorm

Should be a whale of a game. After watching them play It wouldn't surprise me at all to see them run the table and be in a BCS game. I see two good things coming from that senerio;
1.. A cash cow that helps all of the conference with the extra money coming from the other bowl eligable teams and
2. Byu and Utah fans can quit their nitpicking , sniveling , name calling ways with both teams adding a higher quaity recruiting class from all of the positive exposure.
I am a Utah man sir , but I can live with an 11-1 record .. I want the Utes to win in the worst, or rather the best way, but if the game swings toward TCU somethings bright and optimistic will still be in the future for all of the MWC teams.

Mormon

My Utes are going to prevail in this and the rest of their games. GO UTES!!!

UNLV

TCU can't shut down any running game. BYU just didn't have the intelligence to see that when they played them. With an effective running game, Johnson will pick TCU apart. Utah by 14.

Re: Maddog

Just like TCU was exposed against CSU the week before they played BYU?

TCU

TCU will single-handedly knock the state of Utah out of the BCS.

To Duh and Maddog

I hate to disclose any intelligence to you, but you are forgetting 3 big factors in favor of the U. TCU is on the road for back to back games. The U campus is nearly a mile high. And temperatures have been in the 30's all week for the Utes, and will be for the game as well. In Fort Worth, it has been 70s all week.

Those three factors will even out any athletic gains the Frogs have over the Utes. It's going to be a barn burner.

Dave

The Utes will prevail once again!! 10-0 baby!! I say the Utes will dominate and win by at least 10 points or more.

BCS here we come once again!!

GO UTES

re Maddog

Bitter bitter coogs. 400 yards of offense? Scoreboard isn't always in indicator of dominance. Utah dominated the game. It was never in question.

NM is always a tough opponent and the only reason we didn't blow the Lobos out was stupid penalties and poor play calling. They exposed nothing. Our offense has struggled all year long yet we are 9-0.

The Utes have shown that they get up for, and win the big games that they are not favored to win. see Georgia Tech, BYU (with backup ratliffe), Ucla (top ten team) Louisville, and on and on... K whit is the best coach in the state. He just needs a new offensive coordinater. GO UTES! 10-0 and BCS BOUND!!! (Again)

Eagle Tail Speaks

Thank you, TheHailstorm. I agree completely. Want to have some fun, watch the contest on Thursday evening. The Utes have plenty of outstanding young men and athletes. Many communities are represented by this tremendous group. TCU will bring the most difficult test for them. Watch and enjoy as the Utes struggle and compete to win.

Dapper2k

Why Utah will win.

Both Defenses are very, very good, top 10 defenses for sure. Which will make it hard for the offenses to sustain drives. With both teams struggling to move the ball the Utes will gain ground on the kicking team winning the field position battle thanks to Louie Louie. With the Utes gaining 10 to 15 yards per punt getting into field goal range for Louie to put points on the board.

As sad as this souonds the Utes MVP is their Defense and thier Kicker. We've won 2 or 3 games this year because of Louie and I see another one coming on Thursday.

Louie for President! Go Utes!

My Analysis

Here's my analysis.....not the expert but here it is anyway. Per FoxSports, TCU scores 36.6 points a game on 408 yards per game while Utah scores 36.1 points on 405 yard per game. Offense - EVEN.

FoxSports shows TCU defense gives up 214 yards and 11 points a game. Utah's devense gives up 266 yards and 17 points a game. DEFENSE - Slight Edge to TCU.

I can't find Special Teams rankings, but Rivals.com ranks Louie as the best special teams player in the nation. SPECIAL TEAMS - Slight Edge to Utah

Intangibles - This is the only differetiator. TCU travels to Utah on a short week after playing a night game the Saturday before. They travel to a high altitude and weather.com shows the kickoff temperature at about 36 degrees. Those things all favor Utah, since TCU is used to hotter weather. Look at their game vs. Colorado St to see the effects of these elements (cold and altitude). INTANGIBLES - Edge Utah

In the end, it should be a very closely contested game. But, I think Utah should have a slight edge. Also, turnovers could decide the game.

Go Utes...I'll be there supporting in black!!

Horned frogs

don't hop

Deceptive

There's no question that TCU's D is excpetional, but those run stats are deceiving. With 38 sacks, opponents' rushing stats drop considerably. BYU averaged less than 1 yard/carry in raw stats, but 6-7 "carries" were a Max Hall sack. TCU can be run on. Unga averaged 3.8 yards/carry in the game. BYU didn't give him the ball enough, possibly because they were in a hole early and panicked. They shut down the run against Oklahoma, but also got scorched for more than 400 yards in the air and numerous big plays for TDs. This is a D that picks their poison. With Utah's diverse ability and numerous weapons to run the ball, they certainly have a good chance of having run success.

As for TCU's offense, they are nice, but not great. They are racking up stats lately on terrible defenses. The numbers for Dalton since return for injury are nice numbers, but they come against BYU, Wyoming, and UNLV. Bad, bad defenses. Again, I'm not saying that TCU isn't talented and dangerous, but people are in love with them for gaudy numbers that aren't necessarily depicting the whole story.

more ute fans

Hey cougs,
It looks like you should be cheering for Utah on thursday. If TCU wins then the conference is theirs and nov 22 is for 2nd place. If utah wins then BYU has a chance at sharing the conference title. Of course, that chance is very small if they keep playing like they are now. BYU will get routed against utah and will lose to AF if they dont get it together.

Go Utes!!

UTES will Compete

At least Utah will show up and make a game out of it. Instead of get burned as if they were a bunch of white guys trying to play defensive secondary positions against fast guys from the south...wait...that's exactly what it was.

The Key...

will be turnovers.

Whichever team is +2 in turnovers will win.

If Brian can avoid coughing up the ball, the Utes have a chance. If Brian plays his usual game - giving up one interception and one fumble - TCU will be celebrating their first trip to a BCS bowl.

Final

1 TCU 8-0 Fiesta
2 BYU 7-1 Poinsettia
3 Utah 6-2 Las Vegas
4 Air Force 5-3 Armed Forces

re: Maddog

Using your logic... TCU was exposed by Colorado State

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