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A Little Helpful Clarification | 11:07 p.m. Nov. 3, 2008
Those "who" believe in the Book of Mormon, not "whom".
It's the subject in this usage. "He believes", "she
believes", "who believes" or "I believe him", "I
believe her", "They are the people whom I believe". Only use
whom as an object or an indirect object. You can also get away with just
sticking with who--that way you won't get caught trying to pretend you are
smart.
To: Lies | 11:17 p.m. Nov. 3, 2008
The ban on polygamy is not doctine only a manifesto--look up the word. Know
church history before you speak. An as far as spiritial polygamy, well you my
brother think twice. Thanks for the time DNEWS, interesting article.
Bert | 1:17 a.m. Nov. 4, 2008
Very misleading title as I thought Catholic leprechauns were attacking the SLC
temple, instead it is innocent.....but it's good to see the culture getting
knocked around a bit even in jest. Change and progression are for the best and
Utah is under the microscope. Deny it as you want Utahans but you the laughing
stock of the nation and the culture the church has created is just hysterical.
LOL and we deserve all the ribbing we get.
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Enforcement? | 1:48 a.m. Nov. 4, 2008
We enforce the law as good as any state out there! Look what problems happened
when a zealous Texas judge tried to break apart hundreds of families in her
Texas raid! (she was judged as way over stepping her bounds by the higher
courts)
The problem is they all live together and are not technically married in the laws eyes, so they are not breaking any laws that can be prosecuted unless there is underage girls involved. FYI In most states marriage at age 15 or 16 is legal with parents consent! So, the question goes how can you prosecute them for living and raising families together when millions of Americans have sex outside of marriage with multiple women/partners all the time! Look at what goes on in Nevada with "group activities" anything goes escorts and legal whore houses! Where do we draw the line at being the national sex police???
The problem is they all live together and are not technically married in the laws eyes, so they are not breaking any laws that can be prosecuted unless there is underage girls involved. FYI In most states marriage at age 15 or 16 is legal with parents consent! So, the question goes how can you prosecute them for living and raising families together when millions of Americans have sex outside of marriage with multiple women/partners all the time! Look at what goes on in Nevada with "group activities" anything goes escorts and legal whore houses! Where do we draw the line at being the national sex police???
R. Pierson | 6:49 a.m. Nov. 4, 2008
Your publicizing this only gives them the attention they seek. Why not just
ignore it and it will soon pass. Keep talking about it and it will prolong.
AdasPUP | 8:36 a.m. Nov. 4, 2008
I have no problem with making fun of Both Mormons and Utah. Heck I think both
mormons and Utahs should make fun of themselves more. My issues come from
mistruths. Really we are wierd enough you don't need to make stuff up
about us. And for the record there are whole websites devoted to strange laws
that are on the books in differant states. Utah does not come in the top 10 for
strange old laws.
Re: Bert | 9:39 a.m. Nov. 4, 2008
It's Utahns, not Utahans. You should proofread before you try to make a
funny, because your delivery was a little off. It lost its momentum when I had
to read it a second time.
common sense | 9:43 a.m. Nov. 4, 2008
Boston Legal is one of my favorites!!! And big deal if it was about polygamy or
bigamy? there was a series on HBO called BIG LOVE, remember? And seemed all of
utah thought that was a great show!
how many tv shows have been made about catholics? LOTS.
Get a grip People, Utah and mormons are God! Nor are they Holy People.
how many tv shows have been made about catholics? LOTS.
Get a grip People, Utah and mormons are God! Nor are they Holy People.
To enforcement | 9:47 a.m. Nov. 4, 2008
You dont enforce the law! are you joking? A woman convicted in Utah recently of
such horrible abuse of her little child. The child may be blind for life, and
the mother got ONE year in jail?
Utahs attorney General comes from a Polygamist family. Of course he isnt going to enforce the law against it.
Texas enforces the law! Mark Shurtleff made a special TRIP to texas in 2004 to tell legislators they better strength their laws in the state, cause we had a whole ranch full living in texas.
Take them back to UTAH, and UTAH can take care of them.
Utahs attorney General comes from a Polygamist family. Of course he isnt going to enforce the law against it.
Texas enforces the law! Mark Shurtleff made a special TRIP to texas in 2004 to tell legislators they better strength their laws in the state, cause we had a whole ranch full living in texas.
Take them back to UTAH, and UTAH can take care of them.
Not Only Utah | 11:58 a.m. Nov. 4, 2008
Do you think everyone in the South are like characters from the Dukes of Hazard?
What about people in California? Is it an entire state of people like 90210? Are
half the people in New York pick pockets, thugs, and murders? All TV deals with
bad portrayals and stereo types. Do you believe all those other ones? It's
no fun when the shoe is on the other foot, is it?
Anonymous | 1:32 p.m. Nov. 4, 2008
I must have been asleep.
When did we go to War with Boston, Massachusetts? :o)
When did we go to War with Boston, Massachusetts? :o)
You go, Anon | 1:32 | 4:35 p.m. Nov. 4, 2008
I know I was asleep during Boston Legal. I'd comment on how boring it is,
but I'm afraid I'd fall asleep.
Best show on TV | 5:55 p.m. Nov. 4, 2008
I watch it every week, love it every week, and will continue to watch it every
week because the plot is enticing, just like the Utah episode. I love how it
always dares attack the truth.
Mindless trash | 7:56 p.m. Nov. 4, 2008
Polygamy is for a FEW control freaks. Most polygamists don't have much of
brain let alone what it takes to be a REAL MAN.
Silvia
Silvia
Re: Bert | 8:20 p.m. Nov. 4, 2008
Cute, but as someone who has lived in 6 states and visited/done business in all
but 3 states, I can assure you that Utah is not "the laughing stock of the
US." That's your opinion only.
We know better than to fall for the old psuedo-intellectual garbage a handful of malcontents like you spew out.
I run a $1 billion company and have never encountered anyone who believes Utahans or Mormons are stupid, naive, or strange as you imply.
Rather, I've found many people who respect our views and wish they could have all the things I have.
We know better than to fall for the old psuedo-intellectual garbage a handful of malcontents like you spew out.
I run a $1 billion company and have never encountered anyone who believes Utahans or Mormons are stupid, naive, or strange as you imply.
Rather, I've found many people who respect our views and wish they could have all the things I have.
Prop 8 Fallout | 7:17 a.m. Nov. 5, 2008
This silly attack is nothing more than snooty writers' revenge for the
Church's support of Prop 8 in CA.
Prop 8 won -- get over it!
Prop 8 won -- get over it!
Oh Please! | 7:28 a.m. Nov. 5, 2008
Re- BERT....DREAM ON!--LOL!!!!
Reed | 8:28 a.m. Nov. 5, 2008
Mormons are a closed group who mirror one another and who don't see
themselves as they are or as others see them.
What a shame | 9:43 a.m. Nov. 5, 2008
Why is there so much NARCISSISM......
* An exaggerated sense of one�s own abilities and achievements.
* A constant need for attention, affirmation, and praise.
* Persistent fantasies about attaining success and power.
* Exploiting other people for personal gain.
* A sense of entitlement and expectation of special treatment.
* A lack of empathy for others. in the Mormon group?
* An exaggerated sense of one�s own abilities and achievements.
* A constant need for attention, affirmation, and praise.
* Persistent fantasies about attaining success and power.
* Exploiting other people for personal gain.
* A sense of entitlement and expectation of special treatment.
* A lack of empathy for others. in the Mormon group?
To "A Hoot" | 10:49 a.m. Nov. 5, 2008
Thanks for that one! I agree, this whole comment board is a hoot! Hilarious!
And apparently, there are only three or four of us on this comment board that
would even get the joke, since no one else has seen what is one of the most
well-written, tongue-in-cheek, shows on TV. I will sorely miss sitting on the
balcony with Denny & Alan every week. Boston Leagal is GREAT TV!
Silvia | 11:47 a.m. Nov. 5, 2008
I simply agree with MINDLESS TRASH...isn't that the truth.
John Pack Lambert | 1:21 p.m. Nov. 5, 2008
To the 7:15 commentator,
With the number of Hmong polygamists in Fresno and Minnesota among other places, the "Christian" polygamy movement with its base in Maine and the number of African-born polygamists in New York City anyone who claims their is a higher incidence of polygamy in Utah is out of touch.
Utah has actually prosecuted people for polygamy in the last decade, which is more than I can say for New York, California or Minnesota.
When was the last time Utah prosecuted anyone for fornication, adultery or sodomy? So the claims and analogies put forward are spurious.
It is not that there is more polygamy in Utah than elsewhere, but that people harp on it, while they ignore polygamy in New York and Fresno.
With the number of Hmong polygamists in Fresno and Minnesota among other places, the "Christian" polygamy movement with its base in Maine and the number of African-born polygamists in New York City anyone who claims their is a higher incidence of polygamy in Utah is out of touch.
Utah has actually prosecuted people for polygamy in the last decade, which is more than I can say for New York, California or Minnesota.
When was the last time Utah prosecuted anyone for fornication, adultery or sodomy? So the claims and analogies put forward are spurious.
It is not that there is more polygamy in Utah than elsewhere, but that people harp on it, while they ignore polygamy in New York and Fresno.
John Pack Lambert | 1:30 p.m. Nov. 5, 2008
To the 10:24 commentator,
Your statement indicates obvious ignorance of the widespread nature of polygamy in the United States.
There are thousands of Muslim polygamists, primarily in the North Eastern United States. There is a growing "Christian" polygamist movement that has no connection to "Mormonism" whatsoever. Hmong polygamy also lacks connections to Mormonism.
Your statement indicates obvious ignorance of the widespread nature of polygamy in the United States.
There are thousands of Muslim polygamists, primarily in the North Eastern United States. There is a growing "Christian" polygamist movement that has no connection to "Mormonism" whatsoever. Hmong polygamy also lacks connections to Mormonism.
John Pack Lambert | 1:39 p.m. Nov. 5, 2008
To Robert at 2:53,
You are wrong on why polygamy is not practiced. It is not practiced currently because it is not allowed by God. If it was merely an issue of law, than members would practice it in Ghana and other African countries.
Those who claim to practice polygamy currently are committing adultery.
You are wrong on why polygamy is not practiced. It is not practiced currently because it is not allowed by God. If it was merely an issue of law, than members would practice it in Ghana and other African countries.
Those who claim to practice polygamy currently are committing adultery.
John Pack Lambert | 1:44 p.m. Nov. 5, 2008
To Answer Man,
I am not sure how your comments really make sense. Considering that the Timonthy quote says that a bishop must be married but there are several Christian denominations who forbid married men from serving as bishops, we can see that the statements of Paul on marriage are not followed by all Chrisitans.
If you are attempting to argue the "Christian" polygamists are misguided, you have valid points.
However if you are trying to say they do not exist, you are engaging in the wrong type of discussion. The fact is that there are groups out there who practice polygamy, reject Joseph Smith and the Book of Mormon, and base their practices on their reading of the Bible. It is true it is reading of the Old Testament, but they profess a belief in Jesus Christ as the Messiah and Savior and Son of God, so while they may be sinners in my eyes and your eyes, I do not think we have a right to deney them the name of Christian.
However, as Jesus said, we must not just say his name but do the will of the father to be saved.
I am not sure how your comments really make sense. Considering that the Timonthy quote says that a bishop must be married but there are several Christian denominations who forbid married men from serving as bishops, we can see that the statements of Paul on marriage are not followed by all Chrisitans.
If you are attempting to argue the "Christian" polygamists are misguided, you have valid points.
However if you are trying to say they do not exist, you are engaging in the wrong type of discussion. The fact is that there are groups out there who practice polygamy, reject Joseph Smith and the Book of Mormon, and base their practices on their reading of the Bible. It is true it is reading of the Old Testament, but they profess a belief in Jesus Christ as the Messiah and Savior and Son of God, so while they may be sinners in my eyes and your eyes, I do not think we have a right to deney them the name of Christian.
However, as Jesus said, we must not just say his name but do the will of the father to be saved.
John Pack Lambert | 1:46 p.m. Nov. 5, 2008
To the 8:11 commentator,
Please read Elder Ballard's talk on being a good neighbor and follow his advice to NEVER, even in jest, suggest that those who have differing political and social views move away.
Did Christ tell the Pharisees to move away. No, he taught them, as well as everyone else the truth. Declare the truth, but do not be unfriendly and un-neighborly in doing it.
Please read Elder Ballard's talk on being a good neighbor and follow his advice to NEVER, even in jest, suggest that those who have differing political and social views move away.
Did Christ tell the Pharisees to move away. No, he taught them, as well as everyone else the truth. Declare the truth, but do not be unfriendly and un-neighborly in doing it.
John Pack Lambert | 1:52 p.m. Nov. 5, 2008
To J,
How does the church tolerate polygamy?
It excommunicates people who practice or preach it. If the church were to go after polygamy any more than it does it would be accused of infringing on people's rights.
As I have said hundreds of times before, most polygamists in the United States have no connection at all to the LDS Church. Even among the FLDS and other such groups most of their members have never been LDS. However these groups are outnumbered by other groups like Homongs and Muslim immigrants from Africa.
How does the church tolerate polygamy?
It excommunicates people who practice or preach it. If the church were to go after polygamy any more than it does it would be accused of infringing on people's rights.
As I have said hundreds of times before, most polygamists in the United States have no connection at all to the LDS Church. Even among the FLDS and other such groups most of their members have never been LDS. However these groups are outnumbered by other groups like Homongs and Muslim immigrants from Africa.
learn some facts first. | 2:34 p.m. Nov. 6, 2008
I'm not a polygamist but in most cases the husband is only legally married
to his first wife then "spiritually" married to the rest. As far as
the law is concerned they are just live in girlfriends. How is this different
then men that are married and then go out and have affairs with different women.
I will admit that the abuse of the polygamists giving their under age children in "spiritual" marrage is wrong and that is what the authorities have gone after them for.
I will admit that the abuse of the polygamists giving their under age children in "spiritual" marrage is wrong and that is what the authorities have gone after them for.
Anonymous | 2:41 p.m. Nov. 6, 2008
RE John Pack Lambort...get a life , man!
i'm Confused??? | 8:36 a.m. Nov. 7, 2008
Is it.. John Packer Lambert or John Pack Lambert or John Pack Lambort ? Which is
it dude?
Enlightened | 12:53 a.m. Nov. 11, 2008
This is concerning Polygamy and "Bill" who made the comment that a man
taking a second wife and supporting her and the children instead of them living
on welfare...Well, Bill, My husband took another wife (behind my back) for the
sake of living the principle and guess who lives on welfare? Me and our five
chidren. Men in Polygamy are no different than men who are out there
"spreading their seed" without a licence. I am the "legal"
wife and this Polygamy garbage of saying the man will support his wives and
children is nonsense. The second wife is now on welfare too. Wow.. We owned
our own business and made over $140k a year and my children and I are destitute
because he only wants to find the next woman and no longer puts any effort into
earning a living. I'd rather have a marriage lisence because at least I
can have some of the marital assets which is more than his second wife will get.
Show me a polygamist who doesn't control, manipulate, and who actually
works very hard to support his wives (instead of use and abuse them) and I may
believe in what your saying. Blessings
Tai | 1:30 p.m. Nov. 16, 2008
come on now, aren't we past the point where we take this stuff seriously?
they mocked people from boston as well. they simply said that they are laws so
hypothetically they could be prosecuted. it's articles like this that
promote thoughts of inequality by being sensitive to humor such as this.
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