The Ted Steven's conviction is probably the last nail in the coffin for the GOP
this year. It just looks bad...real bad.
Mormons need to realize that the base of the Republican party hates them and
thinks Mormonism is a cult despite the Christian beliefs. This is the way to
keep people like Romney out of power. Romney would have been a great VP
candidate for Mccain. It would have answered the what to do about the financial
crisis where Romney has the most experience. But Alas, the anti Mormon
evangelical base dislikes Mormons but this state will once again go Republican
to a party that tolerates them like broccoli.
Mormons already realize the base of the Democratic party hates them: (1)
God-fearing, (2) traditional marriage, (3) self-reliance instead of
government-dependence, etc. You might say that the current Republican party is
the lesser of the two evils. The problems began when the Southern Democrats
started taking over the Republican party to promote their big government
"conservative" social agenda.
Could not agree more with David O and I am speaking as a non LDS individual.
Mitt Romney would have been an excellent candidate for President or Vice
President this year. It wasn't his qualifications that kept him off the ticket
but his religion. The Republicans are going down in flames in 2008 and part of
the reason is their religious intolerance.
David O is right. The right hates Mormons, so don't get your hopes up. Palin?
Heaven help us!
You fail to understand that Mormons use their faith and values to choose their
party, not using their party affiliation to shape their values. Until you and
others like you get it, you just won't understand the way Mormons vote.
Palin will not be the GOP nominee for 2012. Huckabee will make another run, and
'The contribution from Romney, a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of
Latter-day Saints, is "completely unconnected" to the church's own involvement
in the issue, Fehrnstrom said.'Mitt and the LDS Church "completely
unconnected"??? Only LDS folk would want the rest of us to believe that Mitt
takes no notice of what his Church Leaders say!! Yeah right..................
I am extremely glad that Mitt Romney wasn't on the ticket this year. Nothing he
could have done could have overcome the Democrat's argument of "failed Bush
policies." Debate the merit of that all you want, but having Romney on the
ticket this time around would have killed his chances of anything in 2012. In four years, people will realize that it was the Demo's policies that
messed up the economy and they will be unhappy that Obama's policies haven't
fixed anything, and then Romney will have a shot. The Evangelicals will be more
likely to overlook his LDS faith at that point, although it will still be a
factor that could derail him.
Reagan lost the nomination to Ford in '76;Ford lost the election to
Carter.After 4 years of Carter and a Dem congress America was ready for
the Reagan Revolution.Mitt lost to McCain who will lose to Obama.By 2012 America will be sick of Obama(who will be Carteresque in his
clueless arrogance and incompetence)and the Romney Revolution will be
underway.mark your calendars
After Comrade Obama is chosen as "The Great One" for the United Socialist States
Of America, people will realize they should have had Mitt Romney as the top of
the ticket. Mitt is the only one that can save us in 2012.
Unfortunately, neither party is a great fit for Mormons. The evangelical
republicans don't like us for anything but our conservative vote, and the
liberals dislike our views on abortion and gay marriage. While I am
one of the few "blue" (not byu blue) LDS people here in Utah, I still don't
support abortion or gay marriage, and will never support gun control. However,
I do not like the republicans tax laws, and lax regulations for big business. I
also dislike the lack of spending on schools (this should be a much higher
priority).I think that we'd see more support from LDS members if the
Dem. party would back off from Abortion and the whole Gay Marriage stance, and
then publicly notified the population of it. Until this happens, we won't see
much change in this state. Those are some big issues for us, and can still
cause me to vote away from pushers of these causes. If you want
more votes for Dems in Utah, then that's what needs to be done. Until then, I'm
one of a very few that will still vote blue (most the time).
I have to laugh at the tactic of libs trying to convince us mo's that the
repub/christians hate us?What a joke....and the liberals love
mormons? Which ones would those be...Ellen DeGenerate, Michael Moore, Chevy
Chase, Jay Leno, MoDonna, or Mayor Rocky?And just what values do
liberals espouse that mormons share? Communism? Abortion? Legalize Marijuana?
Tax those who work, and give it to those who don't? Yea, that Barack is the
second coming of Christ and McCain is John the baptist!Looking
at Obama who has not anymore qualifications than does Palin.......makes me
really wish I could cast a vote for Romney for Pres this year. This years vote
based on the integrity, experience and judgement of the candidates is alot like
voting for ...........Satan or Lucifer?
The GOP takes Utah for granted. This year both presidential candidates are
awful. The only way to let the GOP know that we won't vote for just anyone they
put on the ballot is to vote for someone else. That is why I am writing in Mitt
Romney. I hope he doesn't run in 2012 because after four years of yobama there
may not be much left to govern or fix, it will be completely broken.
I lived in Texas, South Carolina and Georgia before coming home to Utah. There
is no way conservative so-called Christians will vote for an LDS candidate, not
going to happen. The ignorance of people who go to pentecostal Assemblies of God
church like Sarah Palin is really breathtaking.I predict that the
first woman president will have to be a Republican, and that the first Mormon
president will have to be Democrat.Sorry Mitt, I like you too.
Mormons need to get out of politics and into the church to heal their souls and
get over the love of money and the power of politics and practice the teachings
of Christ before it is too late.
I wish McCain would have picked Mitt, so that fool could have lost twice. But
the GOP hates the LDS church, everything about it.Mitt Romney will
never be the President of the United States. Maybe a different
Mormon will be, but not Mitt.Never.And whoever wrote
that Obama and Palin have equal qualifications to be the President, you need to
go get your head checked out. Palin is not qualified to be a school
board president and from the looks of it, neither are you.
Becasuse of his party's open mind to religion. He is the LDS person with best
chance in 2012.
Mitt:Oh wise one...I noted how you challenged me to get my head
examined.....another idiot who can't see the forest through the trees.....I stand by my post that Obama has no qualifications for
President...unless you are referring to his Community Organizer experience?
That is about as impressive as his associations with Wright, Ayers, Resko or his
desire to raise taxes on those who already pay 86% of the taxes? If
Obama is elected and you have a job, get ready to pay more taxes....if you don't
have a job, Obama is going to buy you a house! Communism disquised as an
Well from Obama's credentials he has so far been... a community organizer and a
senator mostly absent while campaigning for president. Yeah great credentials.
At least Palin has been doing something while in public office...
So "Mitt" . . . tell us these wonderful qualifications of Obama . . . He is an
empty suit who says "nothing" very eloquently. Don't be a stooge for the liberal
Mitt isn't running for office. Yet that is what the media wants to talk about.
We have three congressional races going on and yet the Deseret News blogs are
silent on the subject. Forget Mitt and his future plans, we have decisions to
make today. In 2007 National Taxpayers Union gave Representative
Matheson a grade of D. He has been ranked 32 times in his eight years by
taxpayer watch-dog groups, and his average ranking over that period is 35%, a D
rating at best. Ill spot him 20 points just in case my sources werent complete,
but 55% is still is not a passing grade. We can no longer afford to grade
Congress on a curve, or soon they will think that 6% will be a passing grade.
Jim Matheson may be better than the average Democrat in congress when it comes
to protecting taxpayers, but that's like saying that a sprained ankle is better
than a compound fracture. I'd rather have neither.I wish the media
would focus on relevant issues instead of Mitt.
LGBT people in England, Belgium, Canada, Spain and the Netherlands all have
equal rights, including marriage. Society has managed to accept it and adapt. We
should learn something from "BisexualMingle dotcom", many members here working
for GLBT rights. And there are about 100 members per day and they are very
active. And if you often are online, you may find what you are looking more
I bet the LDS' involvement in Prop H8 and meddling in the constitution of CA
will be a really good endorsement of a Mormon in the White House and how
non-Mormon Americans can feel good about that! Yup! I betcha!
The Party's over. Ther will be no pick in '08 nor 09' except for the Republicans
to pick their nose!
Between the "well-read" Sarah Palin and double-take-super-issue-retractor
Romney, I'm voting Democrat in 2012 if those are the frontrunning Republicans.
Palin is more 'Qualified' to be President then Obama. At least she has managed
something...like Alaska. Obama hasn't managed a popcorn stand, let alone
anything that remotely resembles the United States of America. Romney, on the other hand, obviously has much more experience then Obama, and
he would have eaten Obama's lunch in a debate. Every time Obama would have tried
to tap dance to avoid answering specific questions, like he has done with
McCain, Romney would have brutalized him with hard cold facts. Romney can also go more than toe to toe with Obama in the speach delivering
category.This fear I hear in some people's voices concerning
anti-Mormonism, and its being a reason for Romney not to run for President in
2012, smacts of your having very "little faith" in the Lord's possible purpose
for this gifted, intellegent, honorable man....Mitt Romney. Fear is Lucifers
tool, not our Father in Heavens. Thank goodness Joseph Smith understood that.
A true waste of time speculating on the 2012 GOP nominee. Would any of you have
picked, PRIOR to the 04 election, McCain and Obama? Not one in a thousand would
have, but that doesn't keep you from showing your smarts by speculating, then
hoping everyone forgets it. Palin is where she is on the basis of ONE vote -
McCain's. And Mitt? He'll have to find a new crowd to pander to because the old
one gave him nothing but the back of its hand. But since we're all being silly
together, I'll go out on a limb by predicting...another old white guy, four
years older than he is now.
Things change quickly in politics. There is no way Obama and his Democratic
Congress will be able to deliver all they promise. It is an impossibility.
Four years from now the whole thing will be up for grabs again. And
the Republicans? The evangelicals will most likely shoot themselves in the foot
again. They choose McCain over Romney by backing the Pastor and have four years
to reload their shotgun.
First of all to the 10:17 pm post, it isn't like Romney would be hoping to get
CA's vote, they are so liberal. OK, I never thought I would say
this, but I think a Romney/Huckabee ticket would be good. I resent the
anti-Mormon digs from Huckabee, but I think that he has wised up. I think that
Romney would bring stability and Huckabee would bring personality, sorry Romney.
I would like to see Mitt run again, I think that religions are going to have to
become more tolerant if they want a conservative in office. I just
worry about Israel, I have heard that if Obama is elected that they are going to
go after Iran right away. Don't be surprised if Polosi doesn't end
up with the power, they will have Bidan put in the loony bin and she will put
out a hit on Obama. That lady is trouble and she wants to control all. And
when all this happens, we will watch her sweet little sidekick Mormon, Reed
helping her along. What a joke he is, I accept Mormon's being Democrats, but he
seems to cross the line all to much.
Wow. The things you can find here. You've got a guy who calls himself ITrustNo1
(not just sure what that means) who takes on the duty of speaking for deity, and
adding a little scold lesson for everyone else. Has he MET Romney?
How many Mormons here responding to me have ever been to these evangelicals
churches that call Mormonism a cult? I have been to many many services of many
religions and I can tell you for a fact the ones that the far right goes to only
likes Mormons for the vote, otherwise the LDS Church is a cult to them. It is a
fact, those who deny it just haven't been outside the bubble. Mitt
Romney would be an excellent president in the current economic mess. He was not
McCain's vp because of the evangelical right. Romney raised a ton of money for
McCain. You think Romney did that because they are pals? No, because he was
trying to gain acceptance.
Obama is on track to win 9 of the 10 states that has the HIGHEST amount of
college graduates per capita in the U.S. Guess what McCain is on track to win 9
(and maybe all 10) of the states with the LOWEST amount of college graduates per
capita.Now quick, someone please tell mewhich states are
smarter?Or, can you say: "We the people"
It doesn't matter if Obama can't keep his promises. The leftist media will
never take him to task. In fact, they will blame the rascally republicans for
any Obama failures. Same old same old.
"To: Dave O | 7:41 p.m. Oct. 27, 2008You fail to understand that Mormons
use their faith and values to choose their party, not using their party
affiliation to shape their values. Until you and others like you get it, you
just won't understand the way Mormons vote."No, I know it all
too well, I know the disdain the evangelical right has for Mormons. You all
forget too soon that Southern Baptist Convention that rolled into town. I got a
knock on my door from them and they told me their army was going door to door to
tell all the Mormons they chose a false religion. They told me "Mormons were a
cult and that Joseph Smith was a fraud." This is what the evangelical right is
teaching their children. I told them to take their hate mongering off my
doorstep. These are the ones that grow up and vote against people like Mitt
Romney.I only understand too well the voting pattern here and until
Mormons vote otherwise, they will be treated as the ugly stepchild in the
Memo from Boston:Mitt Romney was our governor and he did a great job
for Massachusetts! One thing I like about this liberal state: Mormonism was
never brought up in the campaign, not even once, and if anyone would have used
religion against Mitt they would have been toast. You just don't talk publicly
about personal religion in New England, it's considered impolite.The
flipside for Mitt is that Mass is a liberal state. The only way for a Republican
to win here is to appeal to moderates. There is a lot of tape showing Mitt
saying he supports Roe v Wade and pro gay partnerships. Those tapes aren't
going to disappear and will be used against him.I doubt that
evangelicals will ever allow Mitt to be the nominee. They will say it is the
tapes where he says he's moderate, but the truth is that they just can't stand
Mormons.Mitt has to be VP first, there's no other way.
No doubt there could be a white horse in the white house by 2012!
Well, people are waking up to the truth. Look behind the seens and see who is
saying what. The funniest and saddest truth is Fox News. To say it is fair and
balanced is false. Who is the CEO of Fox News and what has been his role in
convincing people with what seems so little regard for truth. Research the name
Roger Ailes in wikipedia and maybe you will find out how the buddy system works.
Its money for the rich.
I can tell you one thing for sure, the evangelical right wing of the Republican
party loves Palin and her alcohol drinking pregnant unwed teen daughter more
than they love Romney, a man who raised a successful family and has helped his
wife through her illness and is a successful businessman. His crime that he
committed to get less support than her or Huckabee? Being LDS. Mccain would be
quite a maverick he claims and dump Palin and throw on Romeny.
Here we go again, down that same trail we went with Jimmy Carter. Carter, like
Obama was a no nothing populist. This country went through some tough times in
the late seventies and it seems that we have forgotten that history. If we
believe the BS put out by the media and certain other professional brainwashers
we conservatives will give up and give in to the radical slobs who stand with
the socialist Dumb-o-crats. Everyone who cares anything about America and
Christian values should support McCain/Palin and don't become discouraged. They
can win but only if we vote for them. The people who would support Obama, if
they stay away from the poles will be helping this become a better country.
Think about it!
Mitt has too many tapes against him?!?What difference does it
make? Obama has so many tapes in his socialists closet he could make
a Marx's Halloween movie!/the media will love it.
Obama has been all over the media for good and for evil.Any student of
politics 101 will tell you that that is great. Keep your face and name out there
always. Even when they talked bad about him it made others feel
sorry for him.Mitt Romney is good at it also./now he
just needs more political money.
When I hear talk of Mitt for President there are two things that come to mind.
The first is socialized medicine done the Romney way in Massachusetts. It is a
financial and performance disaster and VERY similar to what Hillary Clinton
proposed. Second, the fact that he raised FEES by $700 million and claimed he
didn't increase taxes. While true it is his own "depends on what the definition
of 'is' is" moment,I like the guy but simply think he is another
Rino who mocks Repubicans. And I'm not so sure he would not have also jumped in
bed with the current $700 billion bailout.Nothing to love in Romney
I am a conservative woman. A mother of 8. I have special needs kids and a 17 yr
old who is preparing for college, not a shotgun wedding with my newborn as the
ringbearer. Palin is not a good example to our daughters. She is
teaching by example, that motherhood is just a photo op. Career First. Family
whenever you can get around to it, and when you can charge the state for it.
McCain is no better. Maybe it's time to release the reins of power, so we can
get our act back on track. Raise the standards and bar for our leadership.
Stop walking lockstep. Send the clear message to the GOP that we want
leadership again. We want to be able to vote without holding noses. We need to
be the party of linclon again, and not the party of Dobbson and Palin. It's
time to wander in the wilderness for 4 years. The Jewish people had to do it
for 40. We only have to wander for a 10th of the time, if we do the hard work
during that time!
NEITHER of them. The country could do a lot better without either of them. I'm
hoping Chuck Hagel will decide to run.
Oh PLEASE not Sarah Palin!! The elections for this year with the candidates
running now is a big enough nightmare!!!!
To Anonymous who said:"I bet the LDS' involvement in Prop H8 and meddling
in the constitution of CA will be a really good endorsement of a Mormon in the
White House and how non-Mormon Americans can feel good about that!Yup! I betcha!"I thought that was what this country was all
about-being able to express and influence your opinion on any issue regardless
of race or religion. Are you saying that if I am LDS I or my church cannot
defend beliefs that are central to my religion? What religion are you? Do you
have a right to express your views on gay marriage?Yup! I betcha!
If Romney can go back to the drawing board and figure out who he is, he has a
shot at the 2012 nomination. He could have gotten away with his liberal
conversion to the left, to get elected governor, but his last swing to the right
to mollify the wacky religious right, for his resent presidential run, was just
too much. Ironically, McCain probably got nominated because he appeared to be
more centrist, in his stands, a spot Mitt could have just slide into if he had
maintained his integrity, and not tried to appeal to the evangelicals.
White Horse at 1:14 wrote:"No doubt there could be a white horse in
the white house by 2012!"Check your history, there was NO White
Horse prophecy ever uttered by Joesph Smith. I for one am sick of Mormons using
fake prophecy and history to build their faith and drive their agenda.When we have so much of substance why do we continually fall back on fake
facts and sentimentalism.Get real!
I don't care for Mitt R but the GOP would be stupid to put Sarah Palin out there
for 2012 as she is phonier than Mitt but not the best choice for a woman in such
a high position. She may have the gift of the gab but come on, smarts she ain't
You people are up early. The idea that Mitt would make a good President or VP
because he was a CEO is a wild and dangerous idea. They're the ones who caused
this mess. The idea that ANYONE understands what's going on in our economy has
been torpedoed by the parade of experts claiming to know and all disagreeing.
Romney has exactly zero experience dealing with what is upon us. Here's what I
know: An every man for himself economy can't last. It can't be saved over the
long term, even if it seems to recover for a few more years. Romney may play it
cool and act like it's all so simple, but the only ones wishing he was chosen
are Mormons who can't citizen their way out of a paper bag and use the same
identity politics to choose Romney as our enemies used to vote against him.
God forbid that Mitt or Sarah, or both are on the Republican ticket next time
around. The country needs leaders not ideologues.
The best candidate for President in any year from now on would be a reluctant
one. George Washington was the man we needed when this all began, and he didn't
want the job. We need someone with a head on his/her shoulders who isn't in it
for the politics and who isn't seeking position. And because the system is so
politically entrenched, I doubt we'll ever see that happen.
I've said it more than once and I'll say it again. The Republican Party blew it
big time this year thanks to the mindless evangelicals. The ticket should have
been Romney-Petraeus. This ticket would have won in a cake walk.
The Republican Party rewatds loyal runners up with the nomination next time
around.Mitt is in line to be the nominee (it is true the Hucksteer hung
around hoping to get enough delegates to be the #2 guy for just that reason, to
be seen as the runner-up heir, but he didn't get the delegates and only annoyed
by overstaying his welcome)Look for Mitt in 2012.
It is true that one can not overstate the loathing evangelicals have for Mormons
(I am lifelong LDS and lifelong resident of BibleBelt) however if Romney gets
the nomination they will hold their noses and vote for him in November.The
trick will be to get the nomination without a ton of evangelical support but
Romney is a class candidate and it is entirely do-able.
Whether or not evangelicals like Mormons is actually irrelevant. Mormon's align
with Republicans because the Republican values are much more in line with the
values of most Mormons. The Democrats have made it just about impossible for
most Mormons to be Democrats. This has been going on for a long time and
nothing has changed. In fact, it's probably even worse now. Assuming Obama is elected, the Republicans will regroup, get their act
together and be in a great position to come storming back in 2010 and 2012. The
chance for Mitt to get the nomination and be elected in 2012 is excellent and
the ONE light I see at the end of this tunnel.As someone who has
spent a lot of time in Washington, I can tell you that the pendulum always
swings back and forth. Right now it is swinging in favor of the Democrats.
However, at this point they are so far left, they are going to have a tough time
governing a center/right country without making everyone pretty unhappy in a
very short time.I hope Mitt can come back and save us in 2012 after
Obama has made a total mess of it.
This election is a wash. No matter who is elected, it's going to be bad for
America. I see Obama as the greater of two evils, but I can't quite bring myself
to vote for McCain. So I'm going to vote my conscience and write in Romney. If you're tired of picking between two completely ridiculous choices, I
encourage you to join me in writing in a candidate that you would feel good
about. It's not a wasted vote. If enough people do it, it could start a trend
that will be noticed.
To provojoe:Only Mormons want Romney? If you live in Happy valley you need
to get out. I travel all over the country and I hear people of all walks say
they wish that Romney was on the ticket. Last Friday I was on my way to JFK and
the driver (a 30 year immigrant from Macedonia) brought up the fact that Romney
would be the only one qualified to sort out this mess. I'm sure both yobama and
mccain with their vast economic experience are highly qualified for this task.
Get real. Neither of them has even balanced a checkbook let alone, made a
payroll. Unfortunately the country is going down a path (both parties) that will
take years to correct.
Where's your memories gone or better-have you just lost your eyesight and
hearing? Who just who would vote for party that has run this country into the
ground in 8 years, and want more of the soam medicine? I just don't get your
Utah republican mentality. And to think you are trying to sell people on how bad
Obama-Biden would be after this mess of the last 8 years-UNBELIEVABLE.
Gosh darn. We are going down as a nation. Family values are out the door.
REALLY SAD. Jesus said: "Love One Another, As I have loved You."
To provojoe - Yes, many executives caused the problems that have now beset our
economy, but to put Romney in class with them is ridiculous. They
weren't the only ones who got us into this mess. The greed of Wall Street was
matched by the greed of "Main Street." In 1999, Clinton and his cronies
strong-armed Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to allow subprime lending. They lowered
the regulations that were in place so that more people could own houses. That
in itself isn't bad, but when a person can report welfare and foodstamps as
income that props up the system with no real backup. Yes, Bush didn't
reregulate the Banks and Lenders, but when millions of people mortgaged
themselves into houses they couldn't afford it was only a matter of time. I
don't feel sorry for the companies that went out of business nor those that have
lost their houses due to greed. Some families have simply hit hard times, which
is regrettable, but to make working, prudent, patient Americans pay for the
mistakes of their nonworking, impatient, greedy peers is ludicrous.
Yes, I'm L.D.S. and would vote for Romney next time around. I'm also a
registered Democrat and have already voted via mail: Obama, but not straight
ticket. Judges: Toss 'em. Let them get back into the private sector and work
for a living. I'm not into career politicians. Serve, then "go back to the
farm" and serve in another capacity, but serve. I believe in term limits, but
it will never happen other than that of the office of President of the United
States.McCain has made his choice: Palin and she will bring him
down, if HE hasn't already on his own. We are not winning in Iraq. Any time
we've lost one of our own, we're not winning. The serge "It's working."
That's nice. We shouldnt be there. L.B. J. lied to us; so has Bush. We
shouldnt be there, period.McCain has served his country, so have
many others. I've lost a very good friend to alcoholism due to the Viet Nam
war. This was a very useless, we were lied to war. L.B.J.'s biggest downfall.
Will we ever learn form history? No.
John McCain has as good a chance as Mitt Romney in 2008. So I'm going to write
in Mitt Romney, the better candidate of the three!
Do you know what educated idiot means? I'd like to see Obama's college
transcripts. I'd like to see his academic merits. But I won't because he
obviously has something to hide or he would release his prestigious credentials.
He is hiding a lot of things that we will never know because he ISN'T
transparent and he ISN'T forthcoming. But I am excited for the country to get
him as their president. I am excited because "smart people" from "smart states"
only learn from the consequences of their "smart decisions" and that is the only
thing I am sure about in this whole political process. "Smart people" from
"smart states" are proving that they are really just full of their own education
ego and so let them have Obama. Let them have his policies, his judges, and his
character and then you will see what it is like when the "dog chases the car and
then catches it!" Most Obama supporters are making an emotional decision or an
anti-Bush decision but neither of these make Obama a better leader or more
qualified and they don't make his ideas valid. Obama isn't standing on his own
merits, he is riding emotion!
I'm just going to write in Mitt Romney for pres when I vote. I can't stand
McCain or Obama
The Penecostals that attend the Assembly of God churches will never vote for a
Mormon. I have done the polling by knocking on a lot of doors in Wasilla and
Juneau (Palin's congregations). They really do despise Mormons. Members of these
congregations would even sabotage our discussions. Even though Mitt
will try to pander for their votes, he will not get their support. I offered to
shovel snow, cut wood, pull weeds, but nothing would get them to like or listen
to me. He would have more of a chance by switching parties and
running under a similar platform that got him elected in Massachusetts. Would Mormons vote for him then?
Wasn't Huckabee technically the second-place finisher in the GOP this year?
Wow, that article outlined every reason why I can't stand Romney.Not
that it matters; he continues to only be relevant in Utah.
If you reddest of the red states keep wanting to vote for Republicans, fine.
That is your free agency. Just remember that army of Southern Baptist youth
that went knocking on doors. They are voting age now and are or will be parents
soon teaching the same hatred of Mormons and perpetuating lies. Why do you
think Romney had to give his religion speech? SO keep voting for the
Republicans that hate you. Just don't deny it.
No, but I will gasp at your spelling.
Mitt is going to look even more sad in 4 years if all he can say he did since
the last election is do some political fund raising. I would
recommend he get off the campaign trail and find a job - maybe head up a cabinet
or a UN position. Or how about heading up the Red Cross or a similarly
You people who think that term limits is the answer to our problems are kidding
yourselves. Our founders provided term limits for us. Its called an informed
electorate and voting. We could vote out 435 members of the house every two
years if needed. We could change 1/3 of the senate every two years if necessary.
The problem is being informed and electing good, honest, men or women of
integrity. It doesn't matter how often we vote if we keep putting the same kind
of people in there. How can we get this nation back on track if we continue to
elect people like: Harry Reid, Nancy Polosi, Ted Stevens, Mark Foley (gone),
Barney Frank etc. If Obama is elected inspite of his socialist agenda and past
associations with the likes of Rev. Wright, Bill Ayers, Tony Rezko, Rashid
Khalidi, Louis Farrakhan, it will be the biggest hoax/fraud ever perpetrated on
the American people in our history.
I don't agree with the idea that Mitt couldn't win the south. Especially if he
runs against Obama in 2012.I've lived outside of Utah for the past
19 years and the hype about the "Mormon-hating Christians" is wildly exaggerated
on this board. A SMALL handful of misguided evangelicals use the nursery-school
logic that "Mormons aren't Christians" because we believe Satan, like all of us,
is a child of God who fell from grace or that we don't accept the Nicean Creed,
which not even the evangelicals (or Catholics for that matter) can explain -
much less defend with scripture.There is no doubt in my mind that if
he won the nomination, Mitt would carry the South and could win the election.Romney vs Obama in 2012 is very reminiscent of Reagan vs Carter in
1980.I'm thinking landslide for Mitt.
I'm voting Mitt Romney for President and Hillary Clinton for Vice President. I
live in PA and can't vote for either McCain or Obama with a clear conscience.
Sarah Palin for president? "Are you joking? Is this a joke?"
The hate-spewing tv/radio Evangelists, along with Jessie Jackson, Allen
Sharpton, Rev. wright and groups i.e. LULAC, have their own agenda (CONTROL)over
their 'flocks'( think sheep).Without this control, they would be out
of a high paying job and luxurious lifestyle.Because of several
Interfaith Council efforts,we are beginning to see a wave of cohesiveness
amongst the various religious/ethnic groups, wherin they do support Mitt Romney,
because of his excellent moral/family values, in addition to his superior
leadership qualities and excellent knowledge of economics and business
experience, along with his ability to communicate with international
representatives.Fortunately, many people of other faiths and groups
are starting to think for themselves now, and would support Mitt Romney.
No more reaganites! The drip down theory has all dried up!
I am LDS and I will guarantee that Mitt will have a problem getting elected
because he is LDS. Don't waste our time speculating about it. Liberals &
Evangelicals share one value, hatered of Mormoms. The Republican Party put their
most electable ticket together with McCain and Palin, and it may still not
enough. The media has blamed Bush so much that it was immpossible to overcome.
McCain and Palin are the most electable, and I will tell you why. McCain can
actually get the center vote and the Republican base is not offended enough to
vote for Obama. McCain also gets the older generation because of his war
experience and his age. Palin is a women, religious and is not bad looking. So
she brings in women lib types, men who think she is hot, and almost everyone who
believes in conservative values and christian values. On the economy, American's
have not heard a plan from either side that gives them any confidence. Obama
will most likely win because American's are hoping that it was just all Bush's
fault and everything we get better when he is out. Most American's are as dumb
as they think we are.
Well, they elected "W" twice! (it has been a joke)
All you Mormons complaining about the Christian Right have me laughing. Look at
the results from two Bible belt states. In Georgia Huck got 34% McCain 32 % and
Mitt got 30 percent. 41,37, and 17 percent respectivly in Alabama. Now look
at Utah. Mitt got 90 percent. Guess that means a close to 3 or 4 way split is
hate from the Christian Right but voting 90 percent for Mitt because he is
Mormon is ok. It proves what I have known for the 22 years I have lived here.
Utah is definitly another planet where logic does not apply.
Mitt R. will realize his mistake and drop the GOP and is the Democratic
President nominee in 2016, - Now the question is, will Utah still support thier
"Evan from Maine | 8:18 p.m. Oct. 27, 2008After Comrade Obama is
chosen as "The Great One" for the United Socialist States Of America, people
will realize they should have had Mitt Romney as the top of the ticket. Mitt is
the only one that can save us in 2012."You, sir, are a complete
moron. Go study up on communisim, marxism, and socialism before you cast
aspersions on Obama. You may not like him, but this kind of drivel simply
exposes your ignorance and lack of education.
Why are there so many comments about 2012????McCain hasn't even lost
yet. He just might WIN!!!Why such negativism?? Where's the
"scotwright | 3:49 a.m. Oct. 28, 2008Here we go again, down that
same trail we went with Jimmy Carter. Carter, like Obama was a no nothing
populist. This country went through some tough times in the late seventies and
it seems that we have forgotten that history. If we believe the BS put out by
the media and certain other professional brainwashers we conservatives will give
up and give in to the radical slobs who stand with the socialist Dumb-o-crats.
Everyone who cares anything about America and Christian values should support
McCain/Palin and don't become discouraged. They can win but only if we vote for
them. The people who would support Obama, if they stay away from the poles will
be helping this become a better country. Think about it!"Are you in
2nd grade? Seriously, your arguments and name calling smacks of one very, very
little boy. Recess is OVER!
After reading all of the above (some of them very wacky responses, in my view),
I thought: When you're a "public" figure, you definitely can't please all of the
people all of the time. Some of the comments scare me more than the current
political and economic situation in our country does!
Spare me, this Republican administration has DONE MORE to turn us into a
socialized country than Obama has even had a chance to do. Look at our banks,
brought to you by so called conservatives. A conservative president resided
over the largest growth of people depending on medicaid due to losing health
insurance."Bob b. | 1:12 p.m. Oct. 28, 2008All you Mormons
complaining about the Christian Right have me laughing. Look at the results from
two Bible belt states. In Georgia Huck got 34% McCain 32 % and Mitt got 30
percent."Bob, that is a huge pool of people that weren't willing to
vote for Romney. How many of those are the ones that called Mormons a cult?
As for "Palin 2012," that development would just be the latest in a long list of
blessings for the Democratic Party since early 2005, when Bush's Social Security
privatization scheme collapsed, starting a downward spiral that led the
Republican Party, among other dead-end paths, toward Juneau, Alaska. So, to that
prospect, I say: Run, Sarah, Run!
By 2012 Mitt will be a Democrat.
If the good people of Utah think that in 2012 Mitt Romney or Sarah Palin will be
the candidates for president they are in for a big shock. Hopefully the
Republican party can find someone to run that could actually win. Why would
Mitt Romney put himself through the same pain again, he will still be a Mormon
and the attitude of the country will not of changed in that regard, he still
would not have a chance to win the nomination. As for Sarah Palin, heaven
forbid that this woman that acts like a teenage cheer leader with raging
hormones should even be considered a candidate is beyond belief. There are so
many more dignified and better qualified Republican women that would make
excellent candidates for the office of president, choose one of them.Where does this "the Republican party hates Mormons" or "the Democarts hate
Mormons" depending what side of the fence you are on come from? Niether party
hates Mormons, they only want your votes they do not care what your religion is.
Wake up Utah, vote for the person not the party and you wonder why you are
called sheep by the rest of the country.
Oh, stop it! You're killing me. My sides ache from laughing and I can't see
through the tears streaming down my face.
I believe government is too big, that both the Republicans and the Democrats are
spending too much money, and that we must maintain a strong national defense
while protecting our individual Constitutional rights, such as the right to own
and bear arms, the right to free speech, the right to practice our religion,
etc. I'm not a Democrat because that party won't protect a baby's right to
life, constantly talks about further restricting gun rights, criticizes
Christians and others who maintain traditional family values, defends candidates
who are weak-kneed when it comes to using force when necessary to protect human
rights and our national defense, and can't understand that raising taxes on
corporations and the wealthy means less money in the economy to go around. For
the most part Romney reflects my values. He is intelligent, economically
well-educated, well-spoken and possesses executive experience. I think he would
be an outstanding President or Vice-President. McCain should have selected him
instead of Palin, but I also think she would be a good Vice-President or
President because she is not afraid to wield her power to favor the citizens
over Big Government. I truly hope that McCain/Palin comes out ahead.
I think the problem with present candidates and those who have run for the past
few decades is that they have no experience in running a business. Being
involved in business you have to face the cold hard realities of what makes the
economy run and your business successful. The current candidates have all had
monthly checks coming in with little understanding as to how the process of
developing wealth happens. Mitt Romney is the only one who has had to bite the
bullet and has been very successful at doing this. Hopefully America will wake
up to this in the near future or I am not sure what kind of a future we will
Run Mitt Run in 2012
You're wrong, Sarah Palin is no phony. She's just different, and you can't take
that. Neither can the media or the rabid Obamaniacs.
Mitt Romney is a fraud and the LDS people are sheep for loving him so much based
only on his LDS affiliation. His legacy is a sham, his biggest accomplishments
include gay marriage and socialized medicine in MA. The GOP is the same, wolves
in sheep's clothing, we should vote them all out and string them all up for
I am a naturalized citizen of USA.I will vote for senator Barrack
Obama.Because the republican administration of G. Bush is a disgrace.Bush's administaration are liars.There were no weapons of wass
destruction in Iraq.Iraq had no link to Sept 11th.If you are mormon,
republican & prolife.How come republicans like war which is destruction of
life???Mr. Romney is the right choice for Vice president.The
republican party selected an unprepared politician fo VP.Most of the
wealthy mormons that I relate with, are very good religious people but they lack
universal conciousness.They think that they are the only tenants of this
planet and that they have a monopoly of the truth.have a good day Merry
Krisna & Happy New Year
PLEASE - we haven't even got this election over and we have to start hashing out
2012! I'm sick of politicians and what they have done to this country. There is
going to have to be some major changes in ethics and morality to find an honest
person to run for either party in 2012.
If you are replying to Real political thought. You are exactley right. We are as
dumb as they think we are. Obama is counting on it. Scary but true. We have no
idea what he is going to do as President, because he is just counting on the
everybody hates George Bush factor, and it is working. That is scary!
I too believe Mitt is a good man, but remember he was born with a golden spoon
in his mouth. It's alot easier to succeed when you have enormous wealth behind
you, and a family to guide you. Just look at the big shakers in the world today
and their roots. It's a very small percentage of these people that done it by
themselves. I'm not sure that Mitt really knows what the majority of us live
like or cares is my concern with him, but he definetly knows about being
priveleged. Big business doesn't drive this country-the people that work for
these businesses do. Don't EVER forget that NO business is any better than it's
Many good respectful comments by lds/non-lds!I can't remember a candidate
for prez that had such a successful varied background as Mitt Romney!Olympics, Mass. (out of debt,etc.),Ceo of Bain corp.And a squeeky clean
personal life who has been faithful to his wife of many years during her
illness! The Evangelists are a bunch of ding bats, but wait a minute there was
a group called EVANGELISTS FOR MITT ! Bewlive me this country is going to be on
the verge of collapse before Obamais finished ! And his background is
going to look very good! As for the fees raised...Great!Why tax everybody
for your license to be a plumber? Mass. was in deep debt! Money has to be
raised...sooo raise the fees! You get..you pay!Mitt is a very smart
guy! But he may want to restand sit back and enjoy life!?Personally...I
think a lot of guys were jealous--looks, money, smart!A black lady said
she didn't like Romney! I told her about his accomplishments..her eyes bugged
outand she said.."I didn't know that"!
Unless old Mitt is going to trade in his religion like he traded in his liberal
views, he's gonna have the same problem next time around The GOP is all about
evangelicals now, and they would never stand for Romney.
Lucky for the GOP that Mitt lost to McCain this time around. I agree with the
earlier comment that any GOP contender would have been doomed due to the
complete abandonment of the party by Bush. Bad timing for any candidate short of
Reagan.Don't be surprised if Mitt takes a shot at the governor's
chair her in CA. He bought a home in La Jolla earlier this year.Maybe Mitt can run and win in 2012. Let's hope so. He's the best qualified to
get a handle on things in DC.
Well, Mitt critics I don't see you denying that Mitt accomplished some real good
things in 3 different fields,lives a squeeky clean life, dedicated to his
wife and family! Sooo as my Italian uncle used to say"SHUTTA YA MOUTHA"!
I'M STILL WRITING IN MITT NEXT WEEK!
I am personally a Democrat supporter, and I honestly do not think that John
McCain would be a terrible thing for this country. Sarah Palin would. Go around
and ask people you know, or just friends, or coworkers. Half of them that are
voting for Obama will tell you that it is because they don't want to risk McCain
dying and having Sarah Palin as Commander in Chief.
I would have voted for Governor Romney of Massachusetts. Sadly, that man is
nowhere to be found. The real Mitt Romney was hijacked by the right wing of the
Republican Party. He merely became the Mormon Huckabee, and then the GOP
(mainly Mr. McCain and Mr. Huckabee) trashed him because of his Mormonism. It
is a shame that Mr. Romney did not actually stick to his convictions and run oh
his real platform. Instead, he has become just like any other republican. He
will kick himself when the Republican party reinvents itself and comes to
resemble the old Mitt. The Democratic revolution, lead by Mr. Obama will force
the GOP to take sensible positions and perhaps even value some intelligent
discourse about the issues, rather than the fear mongering, hate induced,
anti-intellectual vitriol currently being spewed. This dividing of America by
the GOP must stop. They have become petty sowers of contention. Perhaps I will
return to that party when that change takes place.
Romney 2012!Man, I hope so!!!
Mitt is a highly educated and successful person that made time to raise a
family. he is ready to lead. Palin is a joke and not dedicated to her family.
Just look at that mess, a drinking underaged pregnant daughter, a troublemaking
son, a husband that is barely around. One of those two parents needs to be
there more for those kids. Palin was back to work only days after giving birth
to a special needs child. She is dedicated to power and ambition. Mitt would
have been a much better choice for VP. Mitt actually lives by his morals unlike
Mitt wont wait around for 2012, he's going to be involved in church leadership
callings. Besides he's not one to set around waiting for another chance to be
president, he's got other fish to fry. Maybe he'll save someone's failing
business that hates Mormons.
Mormons are hated by the left and the right. Mitt in 2012? Won't
Hated:"Mormons are hated by the left and the right. Mitt in 2012?
Won't ever happen. "Correction. Mormons are hated by ENOUGH on the
left and right that it might not happen. I live here in Arizona and I know
there are many that love Mitt. My point is, it is not as grim for Mitt as you
think. It will be just really tough.
There is little room if any for Romney in the Inn. Us Mormon's settle for the
scraps tossed from the table of the GOP. As long as we do not want a seat at
the table they tolerate us.It is pure Irony that the Democrat Party
accepts a man like Sen. Reid, knowing that his views may morph based on what his
religious leader says. But the arguments brought up by RIGHT WING Evangelical
nuts all center on his religion.Mosiah had it right or should I say
left? when he desired a land free of "Inequality", "liberty", and "everyman
enjoying his rights and Privileges a like".I for one have debated
for years why I was a republican. The Gospel sure would not point most to the
Thanks heaven there are intelligent people who understand in spite of good looks
and ability to entertain with winks and glib comments that Palin can not serve
two critical entities either her family (which looks like it already has) will
suffer or our nation, with the potential for her to end up as commander in chief
will in ways we probably can not fathomfind out why her home town news paper is
not endorsing her? We are not living in a Leave it to Beaver world there are
real dangers we face that requires someone who has the knowledge, wisdom and
total dedication to our security and country who will not be torn because a sick
child or pregnant unwed daughter also needs her attentionplus something deep
inside me tells me she is an opportunistand besides McCain scares me so I will
do what my conscience tells me and write in Mitts name and thanks to those who
are like minded.God Bless American we need all the help we can
So what is it with Romney, he is a nobody from no where going no where so why
all the fan fare. Is it just because he is mormon. Is the mormon pool so small
that he is the only fish.
To say 'the right hate Romney' he received a lot of votes in the primaries, I
really hope he does run for President again and next time maybe he can be the
Republican party candidate.
The way of the GOP back to the White House is to have a woman nominated for
president. In 2012 a black president will be yesterdays news, but a woman
president of the United States will be the topic of international
celebration.With over 65% of conservatives and republicans support, Sarah
is on her way to make history on her own 4 years from now.