I saw that article by Simmons. Here was my E-mail to him:10-15 years
from now I am going to remind you of this: "Paul has a chance to go down as one
of the best 25 players ever". C'mon Bill, really? You beleive that?I
dont know where you and I are going to be 12 years from now but I know where
Chris Paul will be and thats on the scrap heap with Penny Hardaway and if he is
lucky he will find his way onto the "what could have been shelf" with Grant
Hill.I know you watch a lot of B-ball and consider yourself an
expert but you gotta pull your head out on this one.-Casey P.S. Watch the next game that Paul and Williams sqaure off. It should help you
get through this whole embarrassing episode of man love.
Great email Casey,To Simmons, your stuff is cute. It really is. I
get to chucklin to myself when I read it occasionally. But I don't think I've
ever learned anything from your column. Keep the cuteness and celebrity trivia
coming though. Head to head, Williams has dominated. AND I don't really care
what anyone says, Williams is a stud and the real deal.Peace out.
I think that Utah sports fans (and sadly Utah journalists as well) have this
inferiority little brother complex that is just really pathetic and immature.
"Bill Simmons doesn't think Deron Williams is as good as Chris Paul. Waaaaah"
"Simmons says Williams isn't even in Paul's league. Waaaaah." "Kirk Herbstreit
said that Fresno State was better than BYU. Waaaaaah." In most
states and cities, if someone in the national media doesn't pay your favorite
player or team respect, you move on without thinking two seconds about it. I
mean, why does it matter if someone doesn't think what you do?What's
really sad is the title of this article. "ESPN columnist disses Williams." He
didn't "diss" Deron. He didn't say Deron sucks. He even said that Deron has the
potential at being one of the greatest athletes to ever play his position. Does
that sound like "dissing" to you? Really, think about it. Why is he "dissing"
Deron? Because Deron isn't as good as Chris. WAAAAAAAH
Crybabies:Wow, I think you may have a little crying problem
yourself...anyone who cries about the crybabies has an issue themselves. I think
Utah fans are tired of having their team downplayed by sports talking heads.
Paul is not the same type of player as Williams. Paul is a solo player, Williams
is a team player that is why UT went after Williams. He is tougher, smarter and
lacks the ego that many stars have (which Paul is developing). Williams will be
around longer than Paul. Williams=Stockton/Magic, Paul=Hardaway/Marbury. ESPN
has gotten it wrong since I began watching sports, their columnists are all
partial and lack the ethics to be real journalists so don't let it get you down.
Hey Crybaby, Utah sports fans are not much different than anywhere else. I have
lived there and now in the East. The biggest difference between Utah sports fans
and people out here is the passion and loyalty they have for their teams. That
is not a bad thing. Yeah, they take it personal. That's because they care. It's
not an inferiority complex. It's a passion for the sport, the team, and the
players. Don't be a hater. In an attempt to sound like a smart and unbiased
sports fan you actually come off as a whiner yourself. Let people have a passion
for the Jazz, Cougars, Utes, Real, whatever. Deron is bigger, smarter, and
better than Paul. Paul is quick and little, and that will only get him so far.
Ahh..yes fall is upon us and that brings basketball and like clock work the Jazz
fans crying and whimpering and whining. I love it.
Anyone who has watch Williams vs Paul knows that Daron has his number. In todays
hip hop NBA Paul will always get the pub... as long as Williams continues to own
Paul and the Jazz win I'm happy
People think they are so cosmopolitan by talking about Jazz fans or BYU fans as
out of the ordinary. Well "crybabies", we all think you are a big city stud and
very sophisticated. Most of us have no idea what it is like in the "real world"
so keep your insightful commentary coming.
They're both good. Really good. Who agrees?
I think Deron is going to have such a "break-out" year this year that the
national analysts will be forced to take notice and stop overlooking him.
Deron's got some serious flash of his own... remember his 4 three pointers in
game 6 against Houston? And the two magnificent dunks straight down the lane
from the top of the key at the end of one of the Laker games? He's learned so
much from being on the Olympic team and from the last two playoff years, I think
he's just going to wow people this year! Ever the underdogs, GO JAZZ!
Chris Paul is a great player, but he commands the ball everytime he goes down
the court. Deron, on the other hand commands the ball, but is more of a team
player willing to share the glory with other players.Its funny how
most of the sports media say Paul is a lot better than Deron but are short
minded when it comes to head-to-head competition, where Deron has dominated from
Paul is CURRENTLY favored by the rules. About 10 years ago the rules were
changed to disallow or limit hand-checking, and playing away from the basket.
Paul and Williams will be playing for probably 15-18 more years (players just
play longer these years). If the rules ever swing back to a more contact-based
basketball (not just around the hoop) the slight edge that Paul has will be
erased.Think about it, if Williams could create physical contact at
the 3-point line, Paul would be DONE.
Isn't Simmons a Red Sox fan? That should be enough proof that he's not firing
on all cylinders, and so his statements should be taken with a grain of salt.
Everybody has there opinion, maybe Mr. Bill, I don't even compare you as a great
sport anayst? your just another guy in a bar who has his own opinion? what
better peanuts or pretzel? you probably get that wrong to? stop thinking you
know anything about basketball. Chris paul is great and D-will is in the same
car. Just like james and Wade? next time you diss on Dwill, make sure you get
your fact Right.
Last year I heard an interview with Phil Jackson. He talked highly of both
Williams and Paul. Then the reporter asked who he would choose to be on his team
and he said Williams. Ill take Jacksons opinion over Simmons any day of the
To Crybabies: Where are you coming from? I lived in San Francisco and now
Denver. Fans are the same everywhere, they say things that support their teams.
And idiots are the same everywhere, they say idiotic things.
I kind of like Derron Williams.
Who cares what Bill Simmons thinks? Deron has provin what he can do against
Paul. In head to head matchups Deron always out plays him let`s not forget the
Jazz are 8-2 against the Hornets with Deron and Paul facing each other that`s
the only stat that really counts.
Please do not start nonsense like Williams lack of ego. His ego is biggest on
Take note that Simmons is a "FANTASY" sports writer. Since fantasy sports are
all about statistics, mainly points, Paul is a better player for someone's
fantasy team because he scores more. Deron is a better all-around player that
will have a better and longer career.
Without a doubt Paul is an impressive player but top 25 ever? I doubt it. Stats show all Pauls steals. The reason he gets his steals is because
he constantly gambles for steals because he knows larger players can/do score
over him easily. When you consider the points he costs his team by gambling so
much vs the steals he gets...likely a wash in terms of net effect/result.ESPN's Hollinger/others also write that Paul is the beneficiary of some
"dubious assist" totals. In New Orleans and even on the road he gets assists
that could not be considered assists by any measure but he gets them. He throws to David West in the corner. West dribbles around, backs his player
down and after 5 seconds of 1 on 1 maneuvers up an impressive shot around his
defender. Assist Paul?? He gets 1-3 extra assists/game other PG's don't
get.Give him credit for the steals no doubt but when they ever
include the stat of his defensive gambles/misses resulting in points then I'll
listen. Without Chandler covering he'd be even worse.He gambles,
gets away with uncalled "travels" more than anyone, can't defend 1 on 1. Top
25??? Don't think so!
He who wins the most championships by the end of his career...wins.Thanks Sports Guy for fueling Deron's fire!!
Pretty much everytime Williams and Paul play each other, Williams excells over
Paul on the stat sheet. Wouldn't it be cool if they both could compete against
each other, head to head,in some huge NBA sponsored event to settle this
argument forever? Like in the NBA All Star Weekend Skills challenge or something
like that and see who wins! Oh wait, they did that last year and Williams kicked
Pauls booty! Oh, and wait again, speaking of one of them being the best 25 of
all time, Williams is THE best of all time as he set the record for the event
while kicking Paul's booty! Paul was small and Deron was Scarin'! Happy
Halloween! I actually like them both and glad that they are chums. What more
could you ask for than what has been proven in front of the world for everyone
to see? I'm thinkin' the ESPN guy must have been in the shower during that
Who cares. They are both awesome players. I don't think Paul will fade away.
However, I think this comment will only ignite Williams and put another chip on
his shoulder (so Thank you!).
At least he didn't diss me.
there is a difference between ego and CONFIDENCE! Deron has confidence.
This is the same fool who picked Denver to win the NW division last year!!!
Very credible.I am not sure how he gets picked to be an ESPN
"expert" when he's wrong most all the time but somehow this guy gets paid for
this "analysis".By the way, second half of the season last year
D-Will averaged more assists/game than Paul. DESPITE the fact Paul get totally
bogus assists awarded to his totals on a routine basis. Unlike
Paul, D-Will also does not travel nearly every play either. Yes, I know
travelling occurs alot in the NBA but most of it is by big men. How do you
think Paul gets by those big men to score in the paint? They jump for the block
and Paul takes an additional step to get by them. Ref's let it go
because he is one of the NBA annointed superstars like Kobe. We have all seen
Kobe jump directly into players initiating the contact while the defender stands
vertical. Miraculously, Kobe is standing on the free throw line 10 seconds
later getting some more "NBA annointed" points. Same deal for Paul. The stats
are "NBA produced" vs. player produced.
If you look at their individual stats as well, Deron is far superior. I hope
Deron takes this as another slight and shows how strong he is. This is just
another example of media figures deciding how the nation views sports figures.
Deron is the real deal and is fun to watch. I was sooo glad that Utah chose him
over Chris Paul and I still am.
when the Jazz play the hornets, the N.O. papers don't even mention the match
up.. Jazz writers are the only people who care.
Bill Simmon's HATES the jazz... if you read his stuff, he constantly rips on
Karl Malone... if he thinks Karl Malone is over-rated, how can you take anything
he has to say about the Jazz seriously? So some guy who thinks that Patrick
Ewing is a better player then Karl Malone doesn't like D-Will? Who cares! The
guy's an ignorant sports writer who really only watches Boston and LA, and
spends little time watching or writing about anything else. He's a Boston homer
and doesn't seem to know much about sports outside of his home city.
What any national sports writer thinks. Anyone who has followed the Jazz know
they are always overlooked along with their players. Paul is a great player and
so is Williams, however I do believe Utah has a better shot of winning a
championship before New Orleans does.
In truth, both players are amazingly good and are vital for their teams to
succeed. Even though they play the same position, comparing them to each other
is like comparing apples to oranges. Paul is smaller and has already shown that
he isnt as durable. However, because he is smaller, he is also a lot faster,
thus creating different opportunities for his team mates. However, Deron has a
higher shooting percentage and has longer range. I also feel that he plays
better defense because of his size.For Simmons to compare the 2 and say
Deron doesnt belong in the same league as Paul is only obsurd. Every analyst
that has wrote anything about the two, have compared them to Steve Nash and
Jason Kidd. We all know what they have accomplished in their careers, so who's
one sports writer to say that Paul is better than Williams (or that Nash is
better than Kidd).
To Utah Only: Baloney, I mean, Bologna Jambalaya.
I think Mrs. Howell was HOT.
I am not too sure how you can say that Paul is a Top 25 forever guy. He hasn't
been in the league long enough to say that. That shows what an idiot the ESPN
dude is having made such a comment. I still think Paul is a better player than
Deron but the Jazz picked the right guy for their system. Paul wouldn't have
fit in Jerry's system. I think is Deron was allowed to run free on the court as
Paul is allowed, he would be right there with him. Deron is a better team
Las Vegas doesn't even take odds on who's going to win between the Lakers and
the Jazz, they are only covering bets on how much Utah will lose by! Go
I think the reason the Jazz picked Williams over Paul was with their
experice with Stockton, Jerry got tired of seeing Stockton get beat up every
night, he wanted a point guard big enough to fight through a screen. I know
Stockton was durable but if the choice is between a big stockton and a small
stockton I would go with the big stockton. Bottom line I think both
players are a great addition to the league and the Jazz were lucky to get
Williams. I don't see how praising Paul demeans Williams.
Bet D-Will's ankle (if he sees this article) will start getting better faster.
Not that he's not trying to get ready for Game 1, but motivation like this does
him a lot of good. He's used to this kind of dissing, anyway.The
Jazz are lucky to have D-Will. CP's smaller body won't last as long, and he has
yet to show he can lead his team against D-Will's with any consistency. D-Will
simply outplays him nearly every time they meet.I love it when idiot
writers give our guys reason to work harder.
This guy can say whatever he wants because his job is to help ESPN control the
opinions of sports fans. It does not mean he is right.In fact, there
is no evidence yet to suggest that there is a better NBA point guard than Deron
Williams right now. For example, he has outperformed Chris Paul in head-to-head
games and has more or less matched him statistically.We know Deron
is better, or at least as good. I just hope that's good enough for Deron.
I wonder how things would be viewed on a national level if D-Will was in NO and
Paul with the Jazz. This guy just jumps on the popular band wagon to make
himself marketable with the "trendy" team pick (i.e. Denver) or a player who
gets him more readership. I find it interesting the Jazz get all the props from
people who don't need this kind of affirmation to make their careers.
Simmons is off on comparing D-will and CP3. They are both very talented and
both (if they can stay healthy) will end up in the decussion as top 10 pg of all
time. They will both end up above Kidd, GP and Nash - even though Nash had 2
incredable seasons. But for any of you that thinks that Simmons
does not know basketball. You must be clueless. He is a very entertaining
writer, but he also watches more basketball than me and anyone else here on this
Bill Simmons is the biggest HOMER in the media. He is a fan, not a
journalist.Need evidence? Listen to his podcast, appropriately
titled "The B.S. Report".
Can you spell M-O-T-I-V-A-T-I-O-N? I can hardly wait until D-Will's ankle heals
so he can shove his ability right in the writer's face. Some days you have to
wonder what writers are thinking when they sit down at the computer.
I think NBA columnist is correct. Who makes the team better. Look at NO Hornets.
They do not have superstars. Paul made West a All star forward. None of his
teammates complained about he not passing the ball. Deron is very biased leader
and does not want to pass the ball to some guys on his own team. A leader is the
one that makes his people successful. I do not think Deron is that and he can
never be in the greats if he does not change his attitude and be unselfish. Come
on guys! Think about it.
It all gets taken care of on the court. Who cares what anyone thinks, especially
a sports writer! That's one of the good things about sports (except for the BCS)
you get the chance to prove in on the court or field.
Here is why Bill Simmons is wrong:If you asked Chris Paul what he
thought of Bill Simmons' comments I bet he would say that Simmons is full of you
know what.Simmons basically lost even more credibility than he had
before (which was not that much).I can understand if you dismiss one
player in comparison with another because there is an actual tangible
difference; this guy points out nothing substantial; he's just fueling the fire
with his idiocity. Based on his logic I guess the Clippers should win the West
and meet the Washington Wizards in the NBA finals.Go Williams and Go
Those are fighting words Mr. Simmons. Get your head on where it belongs. Both
Williams and Paul will be in the Hall of Fame one day and you'll be on the scrap
heap. Write about something you know more about instead of making up dumb stuff
about tow of the most popular point guards since John Stockton.
The only person in Basketball to give a true opinion of these two great players
is the Olympic Coach, Coach K (won't even try to spell his name :) ). He's the
only one that knows the pros and cons of both players! But we'll never hear that
Paul = 1 playoff series win.Williams = 3 playoff series wins.Nuff said.
Williams thrives when underestimated. Remember his performances after the
Thank goodness these debates can be settled on the court. By the way, what was
the last NBA team to win a championship with a point guard as its best player?
The 1989-90 Pistons with Isaiah Thomas. Ouch. So this debate probably doesn't
This may be good news for us Jazz fans. When people say things like this about
Williams, it only lights a fire under him. He's going to rip everyone this
season................as long as his ankle heals correctly.
Ok lets be honest- they're both amazing... easily the best 2 point guards in the
league. With that said, I'm still glad we got Deron. I would not
change it even if given the chance. He is amazing. D-WILL YOU ARE
THE MANGO JAZZ!!!
Between the two, who can take up the scoring responsiblity if his teammates are
with cool hands? It is D Will, not CP3.
I don't care who is better. D Will plays for my team and I hope they crush the
Lakers and then the Hornets to go on and win a ring.
Does it hurt to be a homer of this magnitude?
CP3 and D-Will have their strengths. But I think that D-Will is a big weapon in
the Jazz arsenal. Last season I heard TV commentators say that he was a great
"closer" at the end of games. During the Olympics I saw him throw a dagger
through the heart of the Spaniard team when "He made perhaps his biggest shot of
the Olympics during the fourth quarter, hitting a 3-pointer in a tight game with
7:30 left that gave the U.S. a seven-point lead."(Scout.com) I'm glad the Jazz
took D-Will, no disrespect to CP3. I hope the media keeps underestimating D-Will
because that will make his triumphs that much more enjoyable!
John Madden used to pick guys on his "all-competition team" -- any sport, any
time, anywhere. He liked Derek Jeter at the top of his list. Gimme D-Will.
The author's only way of fighting back was to make fun of Simmons' "saved by the
bell" reference??? Use some stats or something.
Mr. Simmons only tries to stir up reaction and attention to his articles and
sadly we've fallen for it!I can't say that Williams or Paul is better than
the other right now. The stats are essentially even. In 5-10 years we'll know
who's "better." All I know is if Deron can bring Utah a championship I'm happy.
So no countering his argument with your own thoughts? You're just going to
focus on one little quip Simmons made and call it an article? There's no
ignoring the fact that Simmons is right, so you just make fun of one sentence.
He's not cutting Williams down, he's saying that he will be one of the best
point guards of his generation, which is really, really good. But Paul could be
one of the best ever, which is also true and far and away different from
Williams' status. Its weird to think that could happen, but when you really
consider it, its true.
First of all, I like Williams a lot, and he's on my fantasy team and has been
since his second year. But you guys are crazy if you think Simmons is just
bashing Williams. It's his job to talk about his opinions and he believes Paul
is the better player, and how can you blame him? Paul has taken a much less
talented team and done better with them. This article was ridiculous, it's
clear there isn't much to write about in Utah sports if this is what you make
Funny how Ms. Genessy quotes more Saved by the Bell than Simmons. I
love D-Will, love what he has done in head to head against the Hornets, love
what he has done in the playoffs, love his game. I'm a huge Jazz fan.However, I'm with Bill on this one, Paul is special and has a better chance of
being a NBA Legend. D-Will should be a perennial all-star (can not believe this
has not happened yet), but Paul will be a perennial MVP candidate.
Williams has 3 times as many playoff wins as Paul. Paul has missed more games
than Williams.Every time Williams and Paul meet up, Williams kicks Paul's
butt.I remember when they used to say Jason Kidd and Gary Payton
were better than John Stockton.
Simmons sent me
Interesting how he said that deron is going to be the best in his generation,
maybe he doesnt know enough to understand that paul and deron were drafted the
same year.... duh, paul is in the same generation so he just admitted that deron
is better. Only problem is he believes that paul is in the top 25 ever.....If
paul and deron are in the same generation and he admits deron is better than yea
paul may make #25 only to be beaten once again by #15 DERON WILLIAMS! GO
I agree with simmons there is no comparison. DERON IS WAY BETTER THAN PAUL,
Simmons also predicted the Jazz would win 42 games tops last year...
Simmons says Williams has a chance to be "one of the best point guards of his
generation" and you liken that to Simmons comparing him to Screech? Methinks
this "journalist" (way to stay objective by the way) is a little too sensitive.
8-2 for williams better numbers head to head also, Simmons is right how is
there a comparison, Williams is by far the better player.
Enough bantering lame ones,Who cares? You know what I care about, are the Jazz
better than the Hornets, are the Jazz going to win. As much as I love D-Will,
and love watching him play, if he was injured all year and the jazz won the
championship, i couldn't care less.
You all say that you don't care what some "idiot" sportswriter from ESPN says,
yet you clearly care enough to vent like a 5th grader who didn't get enough
I think it is funny how bent out of shape everyone is getting about what Simmons
said. He didn't say that Paul is already a top 25 all-time player, he said he
has a chance to become a top 25 all-time player. Also everyone saying that
Williams is a better team player...how can you be a better team player and
average less assists? They are both true point guards, making them both team
players in a non-team player age of basketball. Also, the job Paul has done is
more impressive than Williams. Williams came to a better team and situation,
Paul went to a worse team right in the middle of Katrina. Paul saved basketball
in New Orleans and turned West into an all-star, Boozer already was an all-star.
Don't get me wrong I am from Utah and love Williams, he is my favorite player,
but Paul is a better PG.
I am a huge D-Will guy but to say that he is better that CP3 or vice versa is
just crazy anyways. They play in 2 very differnet systems and are each very
good at what they are asked to do. To me I think they are 2 of the best on the
planet and I am just excited to be able to watch great point guards play for
years to come. GO LAKERS!
Boozer already an allstar? On what planet? He was an allstar AFTER D-Will made
him into one!!! He was no allstar in Cleveland--he came here for money and
because there was a PG to give the PF the ball!!Truthfully D-Will
and Paul are very close but Paul is quicker and D-Will is a better
shooter--check the stats if you question what I say. They are comparable, there
is no big disparity as Simmons tries to portray.D-Will statistically
would be better if Paul did not get sooooo many bogus assists added to his
totals. It is well documented and undeniable. He is the benefactor of being
one of the NBAs annointed!! Stats counters and NBA officials help
Paul get alot of what he gets. He does not come by all his stats honestly as
opposed to D-Will who truly has to earn his!!!!Lets face it--if you
are in a market the NBA wants to promote then the NBA will make sure you get
what it takes to make you look as good as possible.New Orleans,
Katrina, dilapidated arena, Cp3???? That is story. D-Will and the mormons in
SLC? Not so much????Its all about money!!!!
Simmons' word is the gospel. He is the best sportswriter on the planet. He is
right, watch Chris Paul, Deron is great, but Paul is better. That
being said, I am excited for the Jazz this year. I am making the pilgrimage to
SLC for the December 11th game vs. Portland. Can't wait!
I think it's totally obvious. Stone Temple Pilots are way better than Pearl Jam.
It's funny how in love you SLC guys are with Stockton and Malone. Yea, sure they
were really good players and put up great stats. But they never won a
championship (MJ ate Malone alive in the year Malone won the MVP) and thats why
they will always be considered really good, and not great.
I don't think its about DWill or Chris Paul. Bill Simmons is an imbecil!!! All
the national sell-outs are (Minus ESPN's number-crunching Hollinger!). Gred
Oden, ha didn't make it past opening day. LeBron's big MVP season, starts with
choking at the line. Washed up Kobe? Hope you TiVoed his killer game tonight!!!
Truth is that there will be 4 games at Energy Solution's arena (and we pray for
at least 4 more in the Playoffs) featuring the 3 most INFLUENTIAL players in the
league; studs who before their arrival their teams' had no idea how they'd
arrive to Championship stature. Yes, I'm a D-Will fan, and yes how can I root
against Paul, he's FUN to watch, and yes I'm an AVID Kobe fan (It's almost
Anti-patriotic not to be after the Olympics), just as I adore Jordan though my
heart-strings still tremble when I think about the Shot heard round the world
(after "The Push"). Fellow small-market, underdog lovers, we're always gonna get
snubbed for our low-alcohol olympics, Stockton's "uncool" shorts, non-BCS and
Coach of the Year-less teams. Wait til 2009's year in Review when they're
reeling highlights of 2 BCS teams and a Jazz 'SHIP! BELIEVE!!!
Look, it's alright to love D-Will, he's an incredible player, a class act, and a
worthy face for your franchise. But come on, you all are trying to say CP3 has
an ego problem, that he's selfish? Or that Williams has matched Paul
statistically? Neither have any basis in fact. Paul is better in every single
statistical category except for a slight differential in three point and fg
percentage. Williams is also a year older.I'll give you that D-Will
has won the individual matchups, but they haven't had all that many yet. And
even if D-Will can outplay Paul in a head-to-head, what really matters is how
successful they each are over the course of an entire season. Simmons is right,
unless Paul dramatically falls off or D-Will makes a quantum leap, the
comparison just simply shouldn't be made. I'd say it's like comparing Lebron and
Wade. Both great players, but one is clearly superior to the other.
The statistics favor CP3, but the postseason performance leads us to Williams.
Wow, that sounds a lot like the Lebron/Wade debate. In the end Wade has the
This guy needs to do some stat checking. Who's won more head to head matchups
between D-will and CP3? Who's been to the Western conference finals already and
who hasn't? Who won last year's all star skills contest IN NEW ORLEANS I might
add?The fact of the matter is, people like Chris Paul more than
Deron Williams simply because his style of play is a little flashier. I think
they'll both have great careers, but D-will ain't never gonna get the same
respect from everyone else as long as he plays in the small market franchise
that is the Utah Jazz and that's pretty sad.
are losers!! CP3 is the point gurad of this gereration. Williams is a solid
point guard. And all you people are losers!!!
I HAD TO RESPOND TO THIS ONE! I'LL BET THE REAL CRYBABY IS THE MILK TOAST
HIMSELF! DID YOU HAVE ANY FRIENDS WHEN YOU WERE YOUNGER THAT DIDN'T HERT YOU?
Who cares? I love the NBA but comparing players and even picking a top 25
You obviously haven't read Simmons enough if you're thinking that he's "dissing"
on Deron. The guys has given Williams all sorts of love in the past and has even
recognized his success in their head to head match-ups. He actually paid
Williams a huge complement saying he has the chance to be one of the greatest
point guards of his generation. Go back and do your homework and read his past
articles, especially the one about how much better the all-star game would have
been if Williams playing in the game. Just a lame attempt by a weak local
writer trying to stir the pot. While Williams is as nice a point guard as there
is in the league, Paul is more polished and has won with less talent on his
I hate the small market crap...Duncan plays in one of the smallest markets in
the league and is considered one of the 10 best players of all-time. Garnett,
Paul, LeBron, Melo all play in small markets...if you're a start you're a star.
The New Orleans market is roughly the same size as the Salt Lake market. If
Paul and Williams switched places Paul would still be the more popular player.
Utah is a terrible, terrible state.
Williams has been on a much better team then Chris Paul every season. That's
why he wins head-to-head matchups. Look at the stats. By any comprehensive
measure, Paul lis light-years ahead of Williams. Their teams should be close
to equal strength this coming season. The Jazz without Williams are a 40-win
team. The Hornets without Paul are a 30-win team. Do the math. There's a
reason why Williams hasn't made the All-Star Team yet.
Bill Simmons is absolutely right. Chris Paul will probably be better than John
Stockton was. Deron Williams may be almost as good as John Stockton was. Anybody
who has seen them both play can't reasonably argue that.
The reason jazz fans and writers compare deron and paul is to try and avoid
admitting the team made a mistake. with chris paul instead of deron williams,
the jazz would have beaten the lakers last year. as a jazz fan, i enjoy watching
deron play, but chris paul possesses more natural ability than williams.
drafting a player because he has the size suited for a particular style of
offense is absurd. you take the best player available. period.
Paul is way better. No other way to say it. They are different players, but
CP3 is better. Paul is the next isiah thomas (except most likely will be
better), DWill is the next Gary Payton (best case scenario). DWill has better
players around him, but CP3 makes his team better. Whoever says that DWill has
his number obviously has never seen them play...it's not the case. The only
aspect of the game that dwill's better is his outside shooting. Paul slashes
better, he passes better, he handles the ball better, he draws fouls better, and
he plays WAY better defense.Bill Simmons is absolutely right. Utah
fans need to stop being butthurt. Jerry Sloan is a great coach, but the one
thing that he's proven is that he'll win a lot of games but has absolutely no
capability to win it all. If he can't win it all with
Stocton/hornachek/russell/malone/ostertag in late 90s Western conference, he's
certainly not gonna win it with dwill/brewer/ak47/boozer/okur in late 2000's
Western conference.God i hate the Jazz.
Wow, you Utah fans accuse Bill Simmons of being a homer with his Red Sox and
Pats, but you guys are even worse. And Karl Malone was horrible. Stockton did
all the work. There is a reason Malone never won a championship.I
have watched both play and CP3 is amazing; Deron is good, but not amazing.
22.3 PPG 11.5 APG 23.7 PPG 10.8 APGThose were the averages of
the two players during the second round of the playoffs....somehow Paul is on
another level and Deron isn't even close.All of Deron's
teammates were shooting in the low 40s in the playoffs, yet his numbers got
better......how is he a product of his teammates, when his teammates get worse,
and he only gets better?
From what I can see Utah's fan base needs a hug from Robin Williams. "It's not
your fault. It's not your fault."
Welcome Bill Simmons readers! (He linked this in his column)
Come on, Jazz fans. Lighten up a little bit. Bill Simmons considers himself an
NBA Fantasy Basketball Expert. And he is correct, Paul is much better than
Deron, in terms of Fantasy stats (individual effort). Paul is top 25 easy when
it comes to his Fantasy output, thanks to his insane totals in steals, assists,
and points.To the guy who said LeBron and Wade were in the same
league: That is an idiotic statement. LeBron clearly has the edge. Wade only has
a championship because he has had a better team. To the guy making
the point that Williams has won 3 playoff series to Paul's 1. This is not a fair
assessment because two of those playoff series wins have come against my injury
ridden Houston Rockets. Our half-able team took the Jazz to seven games. It's
not saying much when you beat a team without their superstar playing.
Houston was healthy when they went to 7 with Utah, quit BSing.
As a Wolves fan, it killed me every stinking time I saw someone say Duncan was
better than KG. I knew what KG did game-in, game-out, year-in, year-out with a
vastly inferior supporting cast than Duncan. I still believe, if those two
swapped spots, KG would have three rings, and Duncan would be a newly crowned
Celtics champion. I still believe KG is the more complete player. But, like it
or not, perception is reality. And, the vast consensus around fans of the league
is Duncan is the better player than KG. In my heart, I'll always believe KG is
better, but I'll accept popular opinion -- it is what it is. The reason I'm
telling you all this? I know in your heart you believe D-Will is better Paul.
But, popular opinion says the opposite. Why give yourself an aneurysm fighting
that opinion -- it is what it is.BTW, Bill Simmons is not an
"analyst." He writes for Page 2. He's a comedic writer who's a big sports fan
and makes no bones about being a homer. It's his shtick. And for anyone to pop a
gasket over anything he writes makes his day. Quit fueling the fire.
In my opinion way too much emphasis on statistics and "head to head" matchups.
Any NBA analysis worth its salt will look at the totally of the way the two
players play the game. Deron is an excellent player, in a brilliant
offensive scheme, with other excellent players complementing that scheme around
him. The drafting of Deron is a testament more to the Jazz management and its
commitment to a certain style of play more than anything. Deron runs that
offense extremely well, but he simply doesn't have that extra something that
separates regular players from the Magic, Birds, Lebrons, Jordans of the world.
Paul... baring injury does.Paul is simply a puppet master on the
court. Nothing happens without his manipulation of the offense and opposing
defense. This is what makes him great. Almost every offensive possession results
in an open shot, or mismatch due to his puppetry. I agree with Simmons, while
Deron is good, there is no comparison.
Disagree Zinch.Watching Williams in the playoffs, he did have the
takeover mentality of a superstar, especially late in games. Nearly everyone
else on the Jazz underperformed, but Williams always rose to the occasion.Deron is perfectly capable of taking over a game on his own merit, ask
the Spurs about 2007. He completely toyed with Bruce Bowen that series and
averaged 30 PPG fairly easily before turning his ankle.Williams does
what it takes to win, if that mean using less possessions that a Chris Paul and
sacrificing "statistical" glory, he'll do it. I don't think any Jazz fan has a
problem with that.
oops meant "better"