Comments about ‘FLDS seek to stop sale of temple site’

It's so sad that they couldn't have addressed this when it was all going on originally, instead of listening to the one man that was destroying their religion from within.

One man did more damage and destroyed more lives than all the courts in the world could do in a hundred years (including Texas courts). And yet they still call him the "prophet".

Incredible.

And so it ends. And good. Maybe the future children of this cretin sect can live free lives and Utah will be rid of this ugly lifestyle.

Slow and steady destruction of a religion one dollar at a time.
In this modern era only texas needs Tanks. The rest of the "civilized world uses lawyers to bleed the church.......shame.
Jeffs built a temple and Wisan prevents a temple from being built.
It is interesting to note that the US government used fines and confiscation of property to pressure the early LDS religion.

They arent druggies. They are not thieves. Leave them alone. Religious persecution seems okay according to the Texans, but they are wrong. Why arent similar efforts put towards the sleaze in Las Vegas or pornography?

"They aren't druggies. They are not thieves." You're right, they're not. They are child molestors.

If there is so much sleaze in Nevada, why did FLDS move so much of thier business there?

Actually their rate of child molestation is lower than outside the FLDS religion. The problem really is about the government interfering in religion. It is the very problem that is also Prop 8. The government wishes to interfere in the covenant/sacrament, yes it's a religious event, of matrimony overriding the opinion of the people. Allow civil unions for all people and religious marriage/matrimony sacraments for those that desire such exclusive of governmental control. Taking control over property is what will occur when a church, synagogue, mosque, temple, or other refuses marriage to a homosexual couple. One merely needs to read about Charlene Hastings for proof.

the UEP is bankrupt because the FLDS raped it for temple funds in TX. there is enough suspected illegal activities to warrant the fiduciary.

the land should be sold to rescue the failing trust. the land should be sold to improve the living situations of those already living in that area.

FLDS leadership has allowed thier own sect followers to live destitute while they, the kings, live high in thier alleged "temple."

if i may add my voice to the courts, please settle this matter. sell the land and improve what the FLDS leadership has tried to destroy.

Excuse me, before money was stolen from UEP by selling property, where was Flds church?
They have NEVER been registered as a religious organization, nor did they ever have a building, temple, etc.

Registering as a religious organization doesn't "make" it a religion. The Church of Scientology is listed as a religion in the U.S. because they registered as a religious organization, yet throughout the world they are listed as a business. The only advantage to registering is for tax-free status. The FLDS choose to pay taxes and not register...nothing is changed. The government doesn't decide if your organization is a religion or not based on registration since they cannot do so under the first amendment, unless you are really suggesting you want government sponsored religions. Now that is just scary on your part.

"The only advantage to registering is for tax-free status. The FLDS choose to pay taxes and not register." HAHA!!! FLDS-pay taxes? Those two subjects in the same sentence sound ridiculous. The FLDS do everything in their power to NOT pay taxes. I'm actually quite surprised they haven't registered as a religion for just that reason. Luckily the state of Utah outsmarted them in one of their sneaky ways of getting away without paying taxes. That's a lot of the problem with the Berry Knoll land. They just won't pay. Fancy that...I say take the land from them. Sell it. They need to learn that to live in this country, you gotta pay taxes. Being a plig doesn't make you special.

Katie, you really miss the big picture. I don't think you handle your finances well, so I think from now on I should remove your ability to handle your personal funds. I will set up a group to control your finances. If you think that is good enough for the FLDS, I say, show me that it's good enough for you. Please disclose all your personal information so that a group may begin controlling all your finances and assets...waiting.

BTW I am neither FLDS nor any religion.

--Happily agnostic.

Just for the sake of some reality. The flds at the YFZ ranch in Texas paid $440,000 dollars in property taxes last year. The FLDS is the largest taxpayer in Schleicher County. The tax accessment has increased every year as flds added improvements to the $440,000 figure.
The FLDS use no county school services.......but pay school taxes thru their property tax.
The flds in Trxas received no welfare or foodstamp payments according to CPS information.
That desert and scrub property that was fenced as a private hunting business paid a pittance in taxes and the improvements made the flds the largest taxpayers in the county.
With the use of county services at a minimum the FLDS gave Schleicher a net gain in money thanks to the flds.
There is no law requireing a church to "register" as a church. The flds choses not to apply for tax exempt status for reasons that they need not explain to anyone. If the flds registered the property perhaps Schleicher county would be $440,000 poorer......
Who is bleeding who in Schleicher County?

the reference to a "breakaway sect in Centennial Park"? please.

I am not a member of the FLDS group, but I did read about a popular teenager involved in the exact same problem as the FLDS have in Texas. Miley Cyrus is a 15 year old girl and was setup with a man that is 20. Billy Ray Cyrus, her fatehr, liked this man and supported Miley being involved with him. Why is this okay for a 15 year old Miley to be involved with this 20 year old man? We are hypocrites in so much of societies activities!!!

| Can anybody explain the reference to a "breakaway
| sect in Centennial Park"? please.

There's a group that lives about a mile outside of Colorado City/Hilldale in a community called Centennial Park that left the FLDS in the mid-1980s over a disagreement about church governance with then-FLDS prophet Leroy Johnson. That's almost certainly the group this refers to.

YFZ ranch property tax was 440,000 but they havent finished paying their taxes for 2007 yet, and property taxes are due again this month for 2008.

zxcvbnm, get your fact straight, the FLDS did not pay $400,000 in property taxes, they paid taxes on land valued at $400,000 BIG DIFFERENCE!!!!!! So they paid maybe $2,000 to $5,000 in taxes. And really you should check to see if they are the largest taxpayers in the county, are you sure about that, have you actually checked the county records? Maybe you shouldn't believe everything you read on lieswillprevail website.

they also paid those taxes with the state support given to Colorado City residents. So the "church" takes the money out of the mouths of babes and uses it to build a temple in another state. Gee - can I join? LOL

Scientology is recognized as a religion in the United States because we believe in freedom of religion.
I for one do not want to follow the example of Belgium where the government of Brussels has refused to allow the Geneological Society of Utah to microfilm the cities records because the LDS Church was listed as a "dangerouns sect".
The work of people doing family history in Belgium has been frustrated by those who wish to use political methods to hurt other religions.
If proposition 8 fails we will see more of this.
Vote yes on 8. It is your only chance for freedom.