Comments about ‘Calendar designer denied BYU diploma’

This merely shows BYU has no class that can be measured by a diploma.

While BYU will accept, teach and graduate other nonmembers. . .the question is, did he, or did he not earn that degree. Sounds like a well earned diploma from the Y is alot like the well earned salvation in LDS doctrine. . . . . . .

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Doesn't sound like there's a very GRACEFUL way to either. . . .

This illustrates that BYU is not a place of real college education. It appears the standard for BYU is "It's not what you learn, just that you follow rules". A truly disappointing educational culture. I wonder how many students earned degrees in the past, just to have them denied for reasons other than educational attainment.

Seems to me this is a young man that knew what the rules were when he entered BYU. Surely he knew the potential consequences of his actions. A private school can and will maintain the standards set by and agreed to by both the student and the school. Strange thing- we can do whatever we want, but we can not control the consequences. All the criticism of "the rules" does not change that fact. You don't like the rules, why would you put the time and effort into attending a specific school? I have to wonder, if he has not been attending church for 6 years, why was he interested in BYU anyway?

as usual the mormons owns its own college.be warned if your not mormon. don't go to byu. least mistake. they won't give you your diploma. look this guy worked hard for his. but because of mormon church they won't give it to him.i just don't understand a college doing this. i don't think i'd want my kids going there . i think there against anyone who says boo the wrong way. so he took a few picture's. he got threw out of church. now college.what did they do to the boys who let him take the picture's did they get threw out of church. nooooooo

Sounds like if your kids communicate like you do, they won't have to worry about being accepted to BYU - a problem you won't have to consider.

Was this guy kidnapped and forced to go to BYU? NO!
He chose to attend. He signed a contract that he would abide by the Honor Code and he didn't. If he had gone into the military and and then days before the completing officer training broke a major military rule would he be made an office. NO WAY! So don't go ragging on BYU for doing what any organization would do if you broke their rules. It seems that most people would like religious groups not be able to enjoy the same privileges others do.

I understand that some may come to the conclusion that Grandma stated, saying that "This young man knew the rules" but the school cannot go back post graduation and decide to revoke a degree. The credits were completed, the work had been done, Mr. Hardy IS a college graduate.

Shame on BYU for it's attempt to try to rub salt into an already healing wound.

Mr. Hardy not only paid his dues to complete the requirements, but he also paid the money for all his course work. I would say that the university is committing fraud by not honoring it's duty to award this man his degree.

It's about time people start accepting the consequences of their actions. Before you are accepted to BYU you agree in writing to certain things. This is no different than signing an agreement with a cell phone provider. You terminate early you pay. Well, now his is paying. End of story!

Every BYU student is held to this standard and this is nothing new. I'm sure Mr. Hardy is not the first, nor last to have this happen. It is just getting media because of his calendars. Every private school has standards beyond the general requirements to graduate (i.e. the honor code) and if someone doesn't agree with it, then they can choose another school. No sympathy here.

Every individual that attends BYU signs an honor code, stating he will abide by the code. It is a PRIVATE Religious University. The guy could have attended any public university and not lost his degree. But he personally agreed to abide by the university's code IF he wished to attend and graduate. He was already warned on his previous year's calendar not to do it again, but he chose to ignore his church and school leaders in order to obtain a profit. Well, he got his profit, and now he's going to have to pay for not abiding by a signed contract.

I hope he contacts an attorney. I know several that would love to take his case against BYU.

Yes, but when your contract with the cell phone provider is over, they can't contact you a month after the fact and still expect that you are still held to the agreement.

The only reason they're doing this is to "punish" him. Why was he not spoken to before? Besides, he lawfully earned a degree. I hope he takes this all the way up the power ladder and fights it.

I'm LDS and think this is a joke. He has every right to that degree. He paid for it, and earned the credits needed. I don't agree with what he did, but he completed his education and deserves to receive that sheet of paper. He definitely needs to take legal action. How can a non member of the church be able to go there and get a degree when they have no standing with the church, yet this guy is no longer a member and can't get a degree? They're just mad about what he did, and want to punish him more for it. Because of this, I'm glad I don't go to the Y.

I'm willing to bet this isn't the only reason why you're glad you don't go to the Y. Anyone who has not attended BYU does not have a say in the matter. Unless you have read the terms of your admittance into BYU, you would think that this is unfair. End of conversation.

Kevin

Non members sign the same agreement and are subject to the same rules.

Putting aside these "rules" which are a complete joke, are some of you saying he DESERVES to have a four-year, hard earned degree ripped away from him because of this? Seriously?

why don't they say only lds church members allowed. that way. when people are ready for college they know not to apply at byu.besides all kids at byu arent perfect. they drink and smoke and all that good stuff but you don't know. because it's only there bussiness. so keep peoples degrees and maybe kids will go to other schools.

He signed a contract and did not live up to his end of it. What else is there to say.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO SIGN A CONTRACT WITH HIM?