Comments about ‘Trial starts in killing of LDS wife’

Nothing more to say really.

My heart goes out. There really is nothing else to comment about. This is a real tragedy and makes you realize how fragile and precarious life is.

decent fellow?? I don't think so. A decent fellow CAN'T possibly take a hammer to his wife and child unless he is totally mentally ill or high on crack. It is one thing to slap your wife and kid but to brutalize them like an old shed takes a wholly different kind of beast. Unless this guy is clinically ill and not responsible for his actions he deserves the worst punishment possible under the law.

why didn't he just tell his wife that he wouldn't join the church?

Anon, that doesn't appear to be the issue.

The issue appears to have been jealousy and rage -- which is the case in nearly 100 percent of spousal abuse cases.

Let this be another in a long line of examples of why you should run, run, run from narcissistic people. It never turns out well.

--Juan

don't realize what they're doing. They become so involved in the church, and I see this especially when they're converts. Seems like they feel they have to make up for time lost. My husband is the same way. He has driven people, including his family, from the church because of his overindulgence and total infatuation with it. He's not worth killing over it. My kids and I have a totally different life than he does, and he goes his way, and we go ours. The church leaders seem to be just fine with it, they keep piling on favors for them, tasks to do, etc., which is the sad thing, as I always thought family came first, then church.

I can see how this guy could get really sick of it if she was so into the church and not her family, but no one is worth killing because of it. Where did it get him? Like a previous poster said, he should have just told her he had no interest and walked away. Of course it sounds like a control issue, also, and he must have been driven when she didn't give it up for him.

Sometimes telling your wife/husband that you are not going to become a member of the Church, is not enough. They just do not stop and the involvement can get into personal and private together time. It can become a really bad situation for both parties.

When you don not want to be a member and really want to be left alone about it, thats what you want to do.

If you are the Male you feel helpless sometimes and not in control of your house. More so that way if the involvement started after the marriage started.
This goes for both Genders.

The Male or Female can feel both run and overrun, the phone is always ringing and someone always wants something, plus the drama and the gossip.

Talking to Church Officials may not help because if you do not agree with them you are not righteous and there your judgment as head of house not taken seriously.

I am not an Endure to the end your partners non involvement, type of person.

Murder however is not the way to solve the problem. Never is. Divorce might be but not murder.

So it amounts to 4 lives ruined.

You seriously need to go to your husband's bishop and tell him how your husband's involvement in the church is negatively affecting your marriage and family. The bishop may have no idea how the demands being placed on him are affecting you. In addition, he may be able to counsel with your husband to scale back his activity in the church and focus on rescuing his family relationship. The family IS more important than the church, but if the right people don't know about the problem, it won't be solved.

In the meantime, I hope you won't let your feelings lead you to blame the unfortunate victim of this tragedy for creating the situation that led to her death. It's not her fault, and as you said, no one is worth killing because of such issues.

This is a very good reason to not marry someone from another faith. Many marriages break up because of the beliefs of each partner. I have known many couples where one partner loved their spouse but would mention they wished they had not dated a nonmember, or wished they had not married a nonmember as it has caused problems in their marriage.

I am sorry for what happened to this woman and her son. None of us can say what the real problem in their marriage was as we do not know. But we also know he will have to suffer for his sins. I am grateful Jesus Christ will be the one judging.

No one kills someone over something like that. There were other issues at work here. My guess would be a cultural/control issue. He was going to control her even if it meant killing her.

Come on, he met her at a CHURCH SPONSERD CLASSS IN UTAH NO LESS???? What did he think he was getting into?

I hope he gets the death penalty.

Please people dont try to make excuses for this pice of crap, you only make yourself look stupid.

Mad As Heck: This story had nothing to do with Utah.

Wow, people are making a lot of assumptions about why this happened. Maybe he is mentally ill. Maybe there was much more to their relationship issues. Maybe she was too involved in the church . . . maybe not. Regardless, to say this happened because she wasn't giving enough time to family has multiple problems. First, we don't know that. Second, even if so, the next step is not logically murder. This guy is not off the hook for his actions regardless of what motivated them.

To mad as heck,
I think your anger has caused you to miss important details.
If I read the article correctly the class was not in Utah but in Massachusetts.

Her involvement with the church might have played into this tragedy but it was much more than that. He killed, and this is the key, the stepson. Her involvement with the church can't account for that.

Slapping your wife is not okay either. Violence is never an answer.

It is totally possible that this was an abusive relationship and that this was not the first time he hit her.

No one deserves to be abused. Not for any reason. Anyone who is in an abusive relationship needs to know there is help and support out there. The phone number for the National Domestic Violence hotline is 1-800-799-SAFE. It is a 24 hour a day number and translators are available.

One of the things that makes it hard for victims of domestic violence to seek help is the "blame the victim" mentality. If someone makes a mistake and gets involved with an abuser, he or she should not be blamed for that mistake. It is only through support that victims get the strength to leave and make a better life for themselves and their children.

To Observer: It sounds like he killed the step-son because the step-son was a witness to the murder of his mother.

Murdering your wife and her child, but not your own is bit of an extreme reaction to any situation. Since when did being a good person, and trying to help others been defined as a crime. He has major pychological problems that she didn't recognize or tried to overlook because of love. Death is too good for this guy.

Mormon hating and pridefulness at their worst. I dare anyone to defend it.

This has nothing to do with her church. She could have been involved with any number of things that she enjoyed and he didn't. This was about control, as most domestic violence cases are. The church is his excuse, and as anyone who has seen this before knows there are always excuses. NOTHING EVER excuses such behavior!

Chet,

Why just mormon hating ?? Isn't all religious intolerance abhorent ?? Feel free to amend your position.

"They become so involved in the church, and I see this especially when they're converts. Seems like they feel they have to make up for time lost. My husband is the same way...The church leaders seem to be just fine with it, they keep piling on favors for them, tasks to do, etc...I can see how this guy could get really sick of it if she was so into the church and not her family."

I don't believe for a moment that you are in the position you claim. You're simply another antiMormon looking for any excuse, even a tragedy as unspeakable as this, to spread your hatred.

But even if you actually are a non-LDS wife who resents her husband's Church involvement, it makes no difference. In either case, you are disgusting for using this issue as a springboard for spewing your filth.