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College football polls: BYU 8, 9; Utah 13, 14
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Utah 72
BYU 121
TCU 91
best opponent ranks:
Utah 17
BYU 73
TCu 5
I'm a diehard UTES fan but the polls are a joke!!!
2. Only 4 vote points seperates BYU from #6.
3. BYU, Utah and BSU all stayed put. It is not unusual to see 1 or 2 loss BSC teams move above the non-BCS teams as their is so much more respect given to BCS in-conference wins than to MWC or WAC in-conference wins at this point in the season.
4. Great to see TCU ranked. This gives BYU the chance to end the season with two top-25 victories on their resume.
5. AP does not matter in the BCS rankings - just like the ESPN Power Poll it is just a feel-good but mean nothing poll. And after two so-so wins it feels pretty good.
Go cougs!
If BYU beats TCU, all the talk about not beating a decent opponent ends. If BYU loses, the Cougars will no long be undefeated and SOS will be irrelevant.
It's put up or shut up time for BYU.
However, please do not tell me the BYU, Utah, or TCU could not be in the top 2-3 teams in the Big Least or ACC, or even the Pac 10 this year. All three teams are good and there are more surprises to come.
Unfortunately, one loss by each of those teams will knock all three teams out of BCS contention...which really blows!
If BYU goes undefeated, they will get a BCS bowl (Utah would if they win out), but we will be watching teams leapfrog over BYU and Utah in the polls for the rest of the season.
BYU has not won a game against a single opponent that as a winning record at the mid-point of the season. BYU is not the victim of bias here. Two major points:
1. BYU gets cred for the nation's longest win streak.
2. The pollsters know that BYU has only one 1 game against a team ranked at the end of the season durin this decade.
The fans need to realize that real-life constantly intrudes on fantasy in college football. Every team that plays a mediocre or above schedule risks losing every week one they hit the heart of that schedule.
BYU's schedule is about as safe as it can be and still include a couple of teams with historical name recognition. This may yet work to BYU's advantage:
1. Missouri is going to be looking for blood against Texas.
2. Alabama still has to play against LSU and if they win the East, Florida or Georgia again.
2. OSU has to play Texas and Oklahoma.
BYU actually has a better shot in this system than in a play-off world.
The whole system is a complete joke. Yes, Florida beat LSU by 30, but that doesn't discount the fact that Florida lost to a crappy Ole Miss team. USC could be the best team in the country on any given Saturday, but they lost to Oregon State -- a team that Utah beat.
The voters always forgive the well-known teams their take-a-week-off losses, but others don't get the same treatment.
How does Utah feel to be ranked a spot behind a team that just got beat by 30 points the day before?
Don't worry BYU fans. If they keep winning they will slowly move up or at worse stay put. By season's end that would land them in a BCS bowl. But let's no get too far ahead of ourselves---remember the last time they started 10-0 (2001)? The fans ended up throwing tostidas onto the field and the cougars got blasted in their final two games.
Some, well at least one, of Utah's opponents have done a little bit better the BYU's; therefore, Utah is, hands down, a much better football team than BYU.
...neither BYU nor Utah (nor, for that matter, Boise State) has a chance of moving up much until a couple of the top SEC and Big 12 teams take a second loss.
Here is a radical idea--if an undefeated BYU or Utah team is excluded from the "championship" game, and instead is to play some lame automatic qualifier from the Big East or ACC, why not pass up playing in a BCS bowl? Won't happen, because of dollars, but a non-BCS bowl between two undefeated teams (BYU or Utah vs., say, Boise State) would be much more interesting and satisfying than, for instance, Utah vs. Pittsburgh in '04.
Go Cougs!!!
To re re a joke @ 1:37 how does byu feel to be ranked behind a team that lost to a team that lost to Utah? haha, catch my drift? LSU is good, and better than Utah so they should be ranked ahead of Utah (and byu if we are going on how good the teams are, not how good or bad they looked yesterday)
Can we finally conclude that the "poll system" was as big a joke in 1984 as it is today?
2. Alabama (14) 6-0 1,452 4
3. Penn State (3) 7-0 1,416 6
4. Southern California 4-1 1,198 9
5. Texas Tech 6-0 1,195 7
6. Oklahoma 5-1 1,147 1
7. Florida 5-1 1,145 12
8. Brigham Young 6-0 1,143 8
This is very simple. Mix up the run and the pass.
1. Don't run 4 downs in a row.
2. Don't pass 3 plays in a row.
3. Mix in some play action
4. Watch game film before coming out to play an opponent, even if it is UNM;
5. Teach the O line not just how to pass protect, but how to block on rushing plays
6. Give the ball to Unga AT LEAST 30 times per game.
Do the above and your wins will be more impressive and you'll have two all americans in Max Hall and Harvey Unga.
BYU will have to have a very efficient passing game with no turnovers to win this week. Hall has to be careful not to force the ball. Further, I strongly suspect that TCU does everything they can to disrupt the timing of passing plays. That should alter the plays that BYU calls. Timing plays may be asking for interceptions.
NCG: Texas vs. Alabama
Fiesta: OU vs. Ohio St.
Sugar: Florida vs. BYU
Rose: USC vs. Penn St.
Orange: VA Tech vs. Big East Champ
Wouldn't that be awesome for Cougar fans to beat Utah and then beat Urban Meyer all in the same season. Rock on Cougars!!
BYU 24 TCU 13 - Cougar defense forces an interception and a fumble. Max Hall and Austin Collie connect on a couple of big plays for touchdowns (TCU - Austin Collie won't drop the ball like CSUs receivers did last night...twice in the end zone).
I don't know if the poll really matter any more. Five more BCS teams with zero losS going to see them fall soon and many more will have two losses soon.
Stay focus BYU, one game at a time. Good luck against TCU at a short time before practice on Monday. Utah, hang in there too.
Go COUGARS!
If that is the case, then I propose that, should BYU win out, it would be better to have beaten a two-loss TCU team and a two-loss Utah team, because both teams would still end up in the top 25 if they were to end their seasons 11-2. I believe this scenario would be more beneficial in terms of SOS than defeating an unbeaten Utah at year-end, because an unbeaten Utah at year-end would mean a three-loss TCU, and at that point, no top 25 ranking. They would have beaten two top 25 teams instead of one. Just a thought...
Moot point though if we don't take care of business on Thursday.
BYU's SOS with improve with wins over NM and TCU, as Utah's will sink, after playing Wyooming, and because of the Michigan Loss in the Big House to MAC power 1-4 Toledo.
Can we finally conclude that the NC championship for 1984 is housed at BYU?
Why is that so threatening to to you Utes?
It happened, it's a fact, it's there.
You can "say" 1984 never happened, but a better way to deal with it is therapy, and developing coping skills.
The first step: Admit you have the problem, and BYU was the National Champion in 1984.
I'm William Banks, and I'm here to help you.
I also happen to think that both Utah and BYU could compete with the likes of LSU...on any given Saturday.
It isn't the BYU's, UTAH's, TCU's, BSU's, Fresno State's or Tulsa's AVOIDING the confrontation that would settle national superiority. It is the USC's, Florida's, Texas's, Oklahoma's, Georgia's, etc. that are avoiding a face-to-face contest.
Chickens!
1. Texas (72) (6-0) 2804 5
2. Alabama (37) (6-0) 2752 3
3. Penn St. (4) (7-0) 2602 6
4. Oklahoma (5-1) 2255 1
5. USC (4-1) 2225 8
6. Florida (5-1) 2224 11
7. Texas Tech (6-0) 2191 7
8. BYU (6-0) 2044 9
9. Georgia (5-1) 1901 10
10. Oklahoma St. (6-0) 1829 17
11. Missouri (5-1) 1706 4
12. LSU (4-1) 1607 2
13. Ohio St. (6-1) 1589 12
14. Utah (1) (7-0) 1489 13
15. Boise St. (5-0) 1240 15
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Here's BYU's chance to play top-25 team --TCU
Good luck!!!!