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8 inches??? | 3:17 p.m. Oct. 12, 2008
You make the Box Elder Putnam sounds like he's 7 feet tall & 300 lbs.
Matt Putnam was about 6'3", around 210 lbs.
True Blue Layton Fan | 3:33 p.m. Oct. 12, 2008
Was thinking about something else today, looking at the standings in all 5A
regions. Being that Region 1 is the only 5A region that plays '7'
games intra-region, vs. only 5 in other regions, I think it's more
plausible to say Layton has definately shown the powerhouse they are now. Region
1 is packed with 'four' 3-2 teams. Call it parity, call it just having
strong teams within the region. I feel better knowing Layton has
'earned' their way into the playoffs , more than only playing 5 games.
Course, it's not the teams within Region 2 thru 4's fault. It's
the way UHSAA has it set up.
My solution to better intra-region and more competitive games and would create more rivalries.....play a home & away game. Can't do it with all teams within Region 1, due to too many teams (especially when Roy is added next year), but every other year they could easily play a home & away. I hope to see it in the future, because other regions are simply wasting time playing half their games outside their own region. Half a season dinking around with pre-season games...not good.
My solution to better intra-region and more competitive games and would create more rivalries.....play a home & away game. Can't do it with all teams within Region 1, due to too many teams (especially when Roy is added next year), but every other year they could easily play a home & away. I hope to see it in the future, because other regions are simply wasting time playing half their games outside their own region. Half a season dinking around with pre-season games...not good.
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Both Matt Putnam's | 4:15 p.m. Oct. 12, 2008
What will be cool in about two years is to see both Matt Putnam's play
against each other. One for BYZoo and the other at Utah.....
Regarding the championship game. I am actually hopeing for another Layton/Alta match up.
Regarding the championship game. I am actually hopeing for another Layton/Alta match up.
bo jensen | 4:20 p.m. Oct. 12, 2008
He will be out for the year and most likely baseball season to.
to: true blue layton fan | 4:25 p.m. Oct. 12, 2008
Hey, as a former player and former coach at Layton you sure talk a whole lot
about the football team. I am glad that you are very excited about the team
which is good, but you act like they are the only team out there. Yes they are
playing good and they have since Batch has took over, but there JV and sophmore
team are not that good. So get all of your talking in this year because next
year they will be average at best as will the whole region.
To former Coach | 6:06 p.m. Oct. 12, 2008
I do believe you are a former coach for Layton. Which, with your attitude,
would explain why Layton use to be the door mat of region 1
I am not a coach | 9:18 p.m. Oct. 12, 2008
I just wanted to stir things up with the TBLF, I still root for LHS and they are
playing well. I played there not coached, it is just fun to mess around on
here.
to former coach | 9:53 p.m. Oct. 12, 2008
I don't think former coach/player of their alum would talk like you do in
the last couple sentences. Therefore, I do believe you are posing and actually
not from Layton. If you are, then you're a pessimist. Layton wasn't
expecting to be that good this year either. If you are actually from Layton,
then you should have known this, as they returned very few starters from last
year. talk more about the team.....then I'll know if you're actually
from Layton.
-True Blue Layton Fan
-True Blue Layton Fan
Re: Bo Jensen | 9:55 p.m. Oct. 12, 2008
Unless something different has happened in the last few days.....I have a friend
that's close friends with the Jensens. They said the 1st doc said at least
9 months. Then their 2nd opinion said 2 'weeks' and then they'd
see from there. (crossing fingers 2nd doc is right). Everything I know about Bo,
he's a better baseball player than football.
True Blue Layton fan | 10:10 p.m. Oct. 12, 2008
Hey Layton player.....you got me. That post of yours wasn't there when I
replied. Glad you're a Layton fan. Go Lancers!
BTW, I did hear the sophs aren't doing well, but haven't heard much about JV. Lot of juniors this year not getting playing time, so yeah, I do think about next year and how Layton will compete.
What's your take?
BTW, I did hear the sophs aren't doing well, but haven't heard much about JV. Lot of juniors this year not getting playing time, so yeah, I do think about next year and how Layton will compete.
What's your take?
formerly True Blue Layton Fan | 10:30 p.m. Oct. 12, 2008
Maybe The Blue Wave, or Go Big Blue, or whatever. Layton Rocks. Maybe I'll
just use a different name every time.
Thought I'd let you Layton fans know, KSL has a great clip on their "Week 8 Prep Football Schedule". There's a couple video clips under the Layton -Syracuse link, but then click "SportsBeat Preps". Nice clip on Layton's game and a couple quick interviews with Karl Williams and Thomas Bryson.
Thought I'd let you Layton fans know, KSL has a great clip on their "Week 8 Prep Football Schedule". There's a couple video clips under the Layton -Syracuse link, but then click "SportsBeat Preps". Nice clip on Layton's game and a couple quick interviews with Karl Williams and Thomas Bryson.
to: tblf from former LHS player | 7:53 a.m. Oct. 13, 2008
Here's my take, I have seen the sophs play and they are not very good, they
have some good players but not a lot. The JV has not won a game at all this
year and considering hardly any juniors play, then they are not going to be good
next year. These past two years Layton has been blessed with dang good players.
Now Batch has done a good job with his program and next year they will be in
the middle of the region because he is a good coach, but they will not be a
dyansty, thats all I am saying. I support LHS in every way, but the reality is
LHS is a small 5A school and cannot compete year in and year out. So this year
will be the year if any only because 5A is down because last years team was
better than this year's team. Outside Bingham and Alta it is going to be a
crap shoot. 4A has better talent than 5A, those are just facts.
As for Bo Jensen, you should stop playing football because baseball is your better sport and that is where you will play in college.
As for Bo Jensen, you should stop playing football because baseball is your better sport and that is where you will play in college.
Layton moves to 4 A | 8:33 a.m. Oct. 13, 2008
Actually Layton is ear marked to move to 4A based on projected numbers in the
next few years. this won't take effect until 2011 but you will see the
change next year.
What? | 9:40 a.m. Oct. 13, 2008
What did you say? LHS will not go to 4A until Paul Smith retires or passes away,
which ever comes first.
Thats right.. 4A | 10:14 a.m. Oct. 13, 2008
Ear Marked, 2009, annoncement 2010 Move 2011.... Do some research bud.....
Anonymous | 10:25 a.m. Oct. 13, 2008
In addition, same article, for Davis County. splits Region 1 up with Woods
Cross to 5A, Sky View to 5A and Boniville to 5A One region will consist of Woods
Cross, Bountiful, Viewmont, Davis , North Ridge and Syracuse. The other half of
region one is, Roy, Clearfield, Fremont, Weber, Skyview and Bonniville.
Which makes a lot of sense. The discussion talked about Clearfield moving to 4A but tabled the discussion until 2013
Which makes a lot of sense. The discussion talked about Clearfield moving to 4A but tabled the discussion until 2013
to: layton moves to 4A | 11:05 a.m. Oct. 13, 2008
On uhsaa, it says that the new alignment goes from 2009-2013. So how can they
move in 2011????? Go do your research, bud..... Like I said before, they will
not move to 4A because of Paul Smith, and he has more pull then a lot of people
think. He is the 5A president. He will not make the change. But it will help
LHS when they go 4A and when Paul leaves.
True Blue Layton Fan | 12:21 p.m. Oct. 13, 2008
It will be interesting to see the varsity team next year. Again, this year,
Layton wasn't expected to be as good as they are, since they lost so many
seniors. Last year, Layton did have the privelege of getting juniors playing
time since they were blowing people out. But keep in mind, a lot of the scrub
time is against the opposing #2s also.
As far as 5A or 4A. Even with Paul Smith as 5A President, he can't dink with the enrollement #s....I would assume. If the new region is Roy, Clearfield, Fremont, Weber, Skyview and Bonneville, this only gives Layton a change to be better than they are now. Sounds like a great future region, with great teams.
As far as 5A or 4A. Even with Paul Smith as 5A President, he can't dink with the enrollement #s....I would assume. If the new region is Roy, Clearfield, Fremont, Weber, Skyview and Bonneville, this only gives Layton a change to be better than they are now. Sounds like a great future region, with great teams.
guts | 12:45 p.m. Oct. 13, 2008
that was a great great game. i went to layton high way back and even played
football there and they have had some tough years but the last 2-3 years they
have had some real good teams. but hats off to the titans! last year 0-10, this
year tied with layton at 6-1. wow!! what a turn around. layton should have won
that game convincely, with all the studs they supposedly have on that team, but
once again the titan kids showed a lot of pride, toughness and heart. they
showed a whole lot of guts in the previous week's win over northridge. on
paper layton had a much better team but never rule out how much heart these high
school kids have each and every week.even last year when the titans didnt have a
single senior on the team, yes layton beat them but it was just by a few points
that time as well, so i think the titans are ready for the playoffs and deserve
to be in them. GO TITANS!!
True Blue Layton Fan | 12:58 p.m. Oct. 13, 2008
Syracuse has proven that they can win and play with anybody, even after going
0-10 last year with all juniors/sophs. Anything can happen in football,
especially with good coaching.
BT | 8:41 p.m. Oct. 13, 2008
True Blue Layton Fan, your "solution" to a "problem"
that doesn't exist won't work with a ten-week season after the
realignment next year. Except for Region 3, and even there only for one year.
Here's why:
Region 1 - 9 schools
Region 2 - 7 schools
Region 3 - 6 schools/7 after 2010
Region 4 - 7 schools
with each region having at least 7 schools after 2010, for schools in regions 2, 3 & 4 to play each other twice would require a twelve-game football season. In such a scenario, the teams in Region 1 would each have four non-region games in which they would have to play schools from the 4A ranks. This would be simply because none of the other regions would have any available games. In that case, Region 1 teams would "dink around" for 1/3 of their football season against teams from a lower classification.
I don't understand why the UHSAA didn't use equalization of the number of schools in each region as a factor in their decision but they seem not to have. Region 1 having 9 schools while Region 3 has only 6 makes little sense but that's what they decided.
Region 1 - 9 schools
Region 2 - 7 schools
Region 3 - 6 schools/7 after 2010
Region 4 - 7 schools
with each region having at least 7 schools after 2010, for schools in regions 2, 3 & 4 to play each other twice would require a twelve-game football season. In such a scenario, the teams in Region 1 would each have four non-region games in which they would have to play schools from the 4A ranks. This would be simply because none of the other regions would have any available games. In that case, Region 1 teams would "dink around" for 1/3 of their football season against teams from a lower classification.
I don't understand why the UHSAA didn't use equalization of the number of schools in each region as a factor in their decision but they seem not to have. Region 1 having 9 schools while Region 3 has only 6 makes little sense but that's what they decided.
to BT, fr True Blue | 8:52 p.m. Oct. 13, 2008
Then do it every other year.....home/away games. Somebody else mentioned the
regions are due to change again. Regardless of the # of teams in a region, it
can be worked out. I think 2, 3 pre-season games are all that should be played.
Or, don't play any. I'd be happy with all region games.
Layton | 8:55 p.m. Oct. 13, 2008
How long has Layton been in 5A?? I think they are borderline and with the rumor
that Layton will be going to 4A, I guess the enrollement #s speak for
themselves.
BT | 10:42 p.m. Oct. 13, 2008
So you're suggesting alternating between ten and twelve-game seasons?
The number of teams in a region does matter. What you're suggesting is
that the UHSAA make 20 (21 after 2011) schools play two games against each
region opponent and no non-region games while the 9 Region 1 schools play only
one, and have four non-region games. If you're against the other regions
"dinking around" with half of their schedule being non-region games,
why are you suggesting that it be ok for Region 1 teams to "dink
around" for 1/3 of THEIR season?
If Layton High School is borderline for being moved to 4A, so are Clearfield and Roy. According to the numbers used by the UHSAA in determining school classification, the three schools have just over 1,600 students each. Clearfield (1616), Layton (1635), Roy (1607). I haven't found information on the number of students in feeder schools for each of these. If the number in Layton feeder schools has dropped more than the others, that could make a difference.
If Layton High School is borderline for being moved to 4A, so are Clearfield and Roy. According to the numbers used by the UHSAA in determining school classification, the three schools have just over 1,600 students each. Clearfield (1616), Layton (1635), Roy (1607). I haven't found information on the number of students in feeder schools for each of these. If the number in Layton feeder schools has dropped more than the others, that could make a difference.
True Blue Layton Fan | 12:53 a.m. Oct. 14, 2008
Layton has outscored Region 1 opponents this year 119-44 in their 5-0 record
against the likes of Northridge, Davis & Syracuse. If anybody questions
whether Layton is for real, maybe they ought to play the Knights, Darts &
Titans.....then come back and tell me Layton is soft.
By the way, Layton is now riding a 12 game winning streak against Region 1 opponents, along with a 19-2 record last & this year.
The Lancers will prevail over the Vikings 34-13.
By the way, Layton is now riding a 12 game winning streak against Region 1 opponents, along with a 19-2 record last & this year.
The Lancers will prevail over the Vikings 34-13.
Blue Blue Blue | 10:06 a.m. Oct. 14, 2008
BT, what I'm suggesting is maybe this:
Regardless of how many teams are in the region, play 2 pre-season games and the rest intra-region. So next year, in Region 1, you'd have 2 pre-season games. Regions 2-4, play the same # in & out of region, but you'd have 3 of the 5 other teams play home & away games....and 2 pre-season games. Example of Alta's schedule:
1. Alta @ Layton
2. Timpview @ Alta
3. Taylorsville @ Alta
4. Alta @ Skyline
5. Alta @ Jordan
6. Brighton @ Alta
7. Hillcrest @ Alta
8. Alta @ Taylorsville
9. Skyline @ Alta
10. Jordan @ Alta
The next year, Alta would play a home & away with Brighton & Hillcrest & 1 other.
Regardless of how many teams are in the region, play 2 pre-season games and the rest intra-region. So next year, in Region 1, you'd have 2 pre-season games. Regions 2-4, play the same # in & out of region, but you'd have 3 of the 5 other teams play home & away games....and 2 pre-season games. Example of Alta's schedule:
1. Alta @ Layton
2. Timpview @ Alta
3. Taylorsville @ Alta
4. Alta @ Skyline
5. Alta @ Jordan
6. Brighton @ Alta
7. Hillcrest @ Alta
8. Alta @ Taylorsville
9. Skyline @ Alta
10. Jordan @ Alta
The next year, Alta would play a home & away with Brighton & Hillcrest & 1 other.
wow! | 1:22 p.m. Oct. 14, 2008
Now that would be an awesome schedule! Let's say Alta gets beat ;o) then
they could get revenge at their next game. Sweet.
too many home games | 2:26 p.m. Oct. 14, 2008
So Alta would get 6 homes games of 10 played. I realize it's just an
example, so I know it can be changed, but that's a great idea Blue. Doubt
the UHSAA would listen. They're stuck in their ways.
Smashmouth football! | 2:32 p.m. Oct. 14, 2008
That's what Layton football is. Good ol' SMASHMOUTH FOOTBALL!! They
battle and fight in the trenches. The scratch and claw out of close battles.
They make the big plays on O & D when they have to. They don't make
stupid mistakes, or coaching blunders.
Rock on Layton! SMASHMOUTH FOOTBALL LIVES ON !
Rock on Layton! SMASHMOUTH FOOTBALL LIVES ON !
BT | 8:40 p.m. Oct. 14, 2008
That sort of an arrangement might have worked up to this year. What
you're either forgetting or ignoring is that realignment takes place next
year.
Regions 2 and 4 will have 7 teams each, and Region 3 will have 6 for only one year. After that, it'll have seven as well. For each team to play each of the other teams in a region with seven teams, the season would have to be extended to 12 weeks, 13 if they allow endowment games. The current 9 game+endowment game season begins in mid-August. To push it to 12 weeks would mean either the football season would have to begin in late July or early August or end in mid-November. In the latter case, the championship game wouldn't be played until early December.
Using a base date of Friday, November 20th, 2009 as the championship game date and moving back 15 weeks (3 playoff games+12 games) the season would begin on Friday, August 7th. That's assuming that there are no non-region games. Add two non-region games and the first game of the season would be on Thursday, July 23, 2009.
That's 16-18 games in all. That's too many for high school.
Regions 2 and 4 will have 7 teams each, and Region 3 will have 6 for only one year. After that, it'll have seven as well. For each team to play each of the other teams in a region with seven teams, the season would have to be extended to 12 weeks, 13 if they allow endowment games. The current 9 game+endowment game season begins in mid-August. To push it to 12 weeks would mean either the football season would have to begin in late July or early August or end in mid-November. In the latter case, the championship game wouldn't be played until early December.
Using a base date of Friday, November 20th, 2009 as the championship game date and moving back 15 weeks (3 playoff games+12 games) the season would begin on Friday, August 7th. That's assuming that there are no non-region games. Add two non-region games and the first game of the season would be on Thursday, July 23, 2009.
That's 16-18 games in all. That's too many for high school.
BT | 9:48 p.m. Oct. 14, 2008
You have to know that the UHSAA would never go for a scheme that has a team
playing some region opponents more than others. That would skew the whole idea
of having region games.
To use the current Region 3 as an example. Bingham plays the two teams that finished last year, and seem destined to finish this year as well, at the bottom of the region, twice each. Meanwhile, Kearns plays Riverton and Hunter twice each. Bingham pads it's schedule against patsies while Kearns has to claw (no pun intended) it's way through a tough region schedule. Doesn't seem like it'd be fair to Kearns. Equally, if Bingham had to play Kearns and Hunter twice each while Riverton got C.H. and W.J, Riverton would come away looking fabulous.
Considering that Region 3 loses Hunter and gains Taylorsville with realignment, it seems better that Bingham play some tough non-region opponents in football. Unless the rest of the football teams who'll be in Region 3 from next year until 2013 improve a lot, I'm afraid it'll be a cakewalk for Bingham all four years. The region really needs more parity. Even I'm getting tired of all the blowout wins.
To use the current Region 3 as an example. Bingham plays the two teams that finished last year, and seem destined to finish this year as well, at the bottom of the region, twice each. Meanwhile, Kearns plays Riverton and Hunter twice each. Bingham pads it's schedule against patsies while Kearns has to claw (no pun intended) it's way through a tough region schedule. Doesn't seem like it'd be fair to Kearns. Equally, if Bingham had to play Kearns and Hunter twice each while Riverton got C.H. and W.J, Riverton would come away looking fabulous.
Considering that Region 3 loses Hunter and gains Taylorsville with realignment, it seems better that Bingham play some tough non-region opponents in football. Unless the rest of the football teams who'll be in Region 3 from next year until 2013 improve a lot, I'm afraid it'll be a cakewalk for Bingham all four years. The region really needs more parity. Even I'm getting tired of all the blowout wins.
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I've also noticed each week, there's different key players stepping up. Bryson tore it up. Other weeks it's been Pickett, Kopecky, Jensen. With Bo Jensen out for at least 2 weeks, there was a good mix at free safety, and was refreshing to see some good new looks on D. The guys in the trenches have been awesome this year, with only a couple returning from last year, these boys have stepped it up!
Keep it up guys....keep your momentum strong going into Viewmont.
Parents & fans.....keep up the great presence at away games. I think we had more fans in Clearfield that the home team. As long as there's empty seats on the road, there's more need for support.