Comments about ‘FLDS girls to attend classes on underage marriage’

Now that was a a funny statement! "We've got a good judge down there that won't allow CPS to take away children..."

Almost spit my coffee all over the screen when I read that! Unless, of course, Ticer isn't speaking about Walther, the judge that signed the order for all the children from non-abusive homes to be taken and KEPT in captivity, and is still holding one poor girl for the sole purpose of causing mental anguish to her mother and father.

Yup. Great judge 'down there.'

I suppose this is really about teaching children who their real parents are and who to go to for help: *the state*. "Birth parents" are just temporary guardians, and may pose a risk to you. It's okay to look at them more-or-less as imposters in your life.

What a laugh...first we read that they are "asked to attend". How quaint.
Then after reading on a bit it is discovered that they are required to the attend classes.
Did the reporter use "CPS speak" because that language was provided in the news wire or did the reporter try to soften the reality of the State "reducation " requirements.
The reality of the situation is that the parents are being coerced into a nonchoice and the audience is a captive group.

Perhaps the CPS workers need to be given a class on the differences between the Stalinist and American conceptions of civil rights.

It's about time someone told these girls that they DON'T have to marry some old geezer. It's just too bad the parents are so inept and so brainwashed.

Next thing you know, the FLDS will be stoning those girls for saying NO. That's about the extent of their capacity - they should just admit their tendencies and move to Afghanistan where they would fit right in with the other religious extremists.

Go see the movie Religulous and you'll see just how out of touch these people are. Don't know how they can fall for all the crazy tales but not believe in Santa Claus.... Seems to me if you're going to believe in wild tales you might as well believe in all of them...

When will the investigation begin that was promised by Meisner.

Looks like the CPS will be provideing hundreds of classes to mitigate the damage caused by two months of captivity that they subjected innocent children to. I guess seperation anxiety isn't listed in the CPS manuel when the instigater is CPS.
Isn't the number up to 315 innocent children......children not subject to abuse. Those are the latest numbers provided by Crimmins after his thourough investigation..........aren't they??????

Perhaps the State should have kept the kids to start with. Otherwise, the perversion continues. To the comments above: Living in America does not give anybody the right to abuse children, even their own. This is, in fact, a classic case of civil rights, the rights of the children. It is unfortunate that our Attorney General will not stand up.

Ex-member Carolyn Jessop talks about this in her book, Escape. When they went into town wearing their pastel dresses, "People called us 'polygs' and sometimes threw rocks at us." America hasn't advanced at all. It's just changed the groups it's acceptable to hate.

Ex-member Carolyn Jessop, that's the one who said in her book that she was married at age 18, right? And she told about the other FLDS girls who were older than her and were so jealous of her being married ahead of them, is that the one? But...but...I'm so confused. If she was 18 when she was married, and the other older girls who weren't married yet were jealous of her, how did they all get to be so old when everybody KNOWS that all FLDS girls are required to marry lecherous old geezers before they reach puberty.

Maybe Eilissa Wall can shed some light on this quandry for us, after all, she was definitely underage when she was married according to her book, "Stolen Innocence". But her "husband" was only nineteen, hardly an old geezer, and she was his only "wife". OK, I'll grant that she should have never been coerced into that kind of relationship, that was criminal, but it still doesn't fit the common wisdom of underage girls being inevitably forced into multiple marriage with lecherous old geezers. I'm looking into the anti-FLDS literature and not finding basis for the "common wisdom" here.

This is just one more CPS insult to those poor parents and young girls. CPS can't even hope to convince those girls against their religion in 4 hours. It will only serve to strengthen their beliefs, and let them know they for sure don't want to grow up to be like CPS workers, who don't even believe in having their own children, but must steal other people's children for money.

you said - "Looks like the CPS will be provideing hundreds of classes to mitigate the damage caused by two months of captivity that they subjected innocent children to."

what? two months?

think again. it's been decades at least. Most have been captive for their entire lives. What don't you get?

That some polygamist girls marry young--it is also very true that many of them don't. I have a friend who was married at 23 or 24 to a man nearly 20 years older than she was--of her own free will, having known him several years and loving him. They planned before the marriage that he would take other wives and she actually picked one of them. She has college educated, unmarried daughters who are in their early twenties.
It's not a lifestyle I advocate or would choose for myself, but I think we need to be careful not to make blanket judgments about polygamists or their lifestyle. And I'm not FLDS and I don't live in Utah, either.
It's never been unusual for women to marry men older than they are--in fact, it is even considered "normal" in many segments of society. The wife gets a man who is established in his career and the man gets a wife who is young enough to bear his children healthily. This used to be considered a good thing.

Two months of captivity by CPS....FT. Concho, The Auditorium, The foster care facilities......Captivity prior to SCOTEX mandating the return of the children by CPS.
Crimmins cited time was needed for an extensive investigation........315 kids released......CPS verified no abuse.
Meisner promised an investigation into conditions at the CPS facilities.....
What don't you get..........315 innocent kids so far.......by CPS standards.

I found it interesting that only one of these comments addressed the classes being given. These classes are to inform these young girls that they have rights under the laws of the USA. The instructors are Therapist who are trained in abuse and family marriage areas. The therapist are not a part of CPS and do not have an agenda. I hope the children at least take away the knowledge that they are free agents and can say NO if they are frightened by a practice that they do not understand. And maybe just maybe the parents will realize that what may be a lifestyle thaat suits them is not a lifestyle for some of thier grown daughters. I did not make the same choices as my parents anymore than any of you did. We all make the choices that are right for our time and for us. I do not live in Utah and am not Flds I do however live in Texas and have many ethical prob;ems with the raid. I am LDS and live near the compound until the raid I had only seen one or two of the men in town no families.

joey: i'm sure these kids know who their parents are. i'm sure these children were told they had to attend these classes.

Will they do the same to girls of all religions? Especially the inner city underaged pregnant ones?
How about Sarah Palins kid if she ever visits Texas?

RELIGIOUS DISCRIMINATION is what this is called.

RE: achick47 ........A captive audience is being presented CPS approved information by CPS paid "therapists". The "lifestyle" that fits the parents is called a religion and parents have the right to instruct their children in religious docterine.
The assumption that the children "need" to be meddled with by state approved professionals is in and of itself a violation of the parents rights to religious freedom and the childrens right to be raised by their parents.
These people are convicted of no crime and are in no need of theraputic meddling by psyco babble gurus.

Since they have dropped most of the cases for lack of evidence how is it possible that they can demand this?
Leave these people alone. And shame on you LDS church members who support or sdtand idly by and watch this happen. First first, my rear-end!

I meant "Family first, my rear-end."

Thank God! This is a wonderful move. There have been 9 indictments related to under age sex. These girls need to know that they do not need to accept sexual abuse as normal behavior, that they have options. Really, why would any loving parent object to an age appropriate class to teach a child to identify and protect themselves from sexual abuse????