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Published: Sunday, Oct. 5 2008 12:17 a.m. MDT

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compromise

Maybe it time for each city to decide if they want Private Clubs( pay to enter the building) laws?

SLC could say YES and Draper could say NO.

O that is right Draper does not have any private clubs...........

uncannygunman

The harm is that the American citizens who live in this state are being treated like children. I'm not quite sure what proof of this harm is needed, considering the steady stream of complaints from Utahns WHO ACTUALLY DRINK.

So forget about the tourists (and the straw-man argument about lowering the drinking age) and let's make Utah a better place to live for everybody, not just the drys.

Theocracy at it's Best

Tyranny of the majority against the minority, a Utah tradition since 1847.

Utah Liquor Laws

These laws, particularly the bizarre private club system, is proof positive to the outside world that there is no divide between Church and State in Utah. It's there for all to see--and you wonder why Mitt couldn't get elected.

Demon Rum

Liquor stores actually INCREASE the amount of liquor sold. If liquor were sold in grocery stores, I wouldn't buy any because my bishop or someone else from the ward may see me. In the liquor store, I don't run that risk.

Ironic

How come government doesn't have to demonstrate what good it is doing by interfering with individual rights in this case, or that it is not just pandering to chruch interests? So far, it hasn't come close

C'mon

Call the state Liquor Monopoly what it is: Socialism.

JM

"The strategy has worked well. Utah consistently ranks at the bottom nationally for per capita alcohol consumption and DUI-related deaths"

This has NOTHING to do with stupid liquor laws, and EVERYTHING to do with the demographics of the state. The private club laws do nothing to curb drinking or DUIs. NOTHING! All they do is annoy people, and keep tourists from considering Utah. If we change the laws, non-drinkers aren't going to suddenly start. The reason for the low drinking and DUI rates are because of the large number of LDS in Utah, and they're not going to drink whether we have private clubs, liquor sold in supermarkets, normal beer, or not.

convinced

Jay - as a Conservative with libertarian leanings I initially disagreed with you over lowering the drinking age. I've always felt that if you're old enough to pick up a gun and fight for your country you should be able to buy beer - or liquor for that matter. You actually changed my opinion with your logic. If I could have bought beer legally when I was 18 I probably never would have finished high school

As times change

it's good policy to look and how things can be improved for all people. Change is not a bad thing, no one will make you walk into a club and have a drink. If you don't drink, your world wouldn't change.

lindaj

Forever seared into my brain is the day I walked into my ex-husband's apartment after his suicide. It looked like a CSI crime scene. Gory doesn't begin to describe it. He was a textbook alcoholic. The autopsy showed he had a quart of vodka and a bottle of Nyquil in his stomach. Don't think your drinking will lead you to this kind of conclusion? My ex-husband didn't think so either. He used to brag about how he could "hold his liquor." I like Utah's liquor laws. I don't enjoy trying to avoid the alcohol isles in the grocery stores in California. Why drink something that affects your ability to think and function? Does anyone ever stop and think that they are drinking poison?

Don't change

I link out to Drudge to read the conservative view. Conservative radio or Fox News tells you what to think.

Right on the Drudge Report: Utah is first state in America to ban flavored alcohol drinks from stores. This was in time for those young professionals who are starting to book their ski trips.

We can go to Vail and it's a party town. Kirkwood has Lake Tahoe and cheap rooms at the hotels. There's night life. Toas is a cool town. Jackson I hear there a lot happening there. Utah....you can buy a silly flavored drink in a store? I hear they have other strange laws.

There is no reason to change Utah laws to get more money in the state. Plenty of families are going to take their kids out of school and fly to Utah. They will run up $100 bar tabs, eat at the best places and tp like a single doctor from Dallas will.

utahn for change

I would like to see the laws changed. Huntsman is spot on with his more progressive views. I didn't have a drink for 35 years. I don't really drink except once in awhile with dinner. Alcohol is poison? A glass of wine a day with dinner has proven over and over to benefit your health. Utah suffers from an obesity epidemic. Why doesn't the legislature install "fat" laws to protect us from such poisons....

Minority view

Most of do understand that utah has a large populace that does not drink and accept their dominant will. Lower drinking age? No. Limits on liquor availability? Well, ok. Limit number of clubs, taverns or restaurants selling mixed drinks? That's done elsewhere too. Glass curtains in those establishments? Down right silly. Requiring memberships at private clubs? An onerous rule that does not affect liquor consumption and is exactly opposite of what free market utahns claim to stand for. They only make people upset and bring us all bad will.

Ernesto Espinosa

I'm a mormon from Santiago, Chile. I have friends who drink a lot, and it's sad to see some LDS youngsters (and adults)drinking, too. I think that government laws help a lot, but most of the effort has to be done within the walls of each home, as mormons do in my country and all over the world where alcohol is legal.

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