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Utah Utes football: No. 15 Utes have short turnaround before facing OSU

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RE:Re;Utah Fan | 2:31 p.m. Sept. 29, 2008

I agree with you about the weber QB, he's the real deal. A couple of things I want to nit pick about though...Mac wont be around a couple of more years, he is expected to retire after this year, Wber St. is not division 2, there are part of division 1 Football championship subdivision (formerly D1-AA). Further I expect weber will be a contender for the FCS championship this year and should make a nice run in the playoffs.

Weber St. | 2:34 p.m. Sept. 29, 2008

Anyone who talks trash on Weber State does not follow football, or know anything about it.
Weber State is a good team, I am not saying that they should have beat Utah, Utah is clearly better, but I am sick of people talking about Weber State without even looking at the fact that their QB would start for more every school in the MWC except for BYU and Utah.
He is good.

impressed with weber | 2:37 p.m. Sept. 29, 2008

I am a utah season ticket holder and I have to admit i was impressed with the weber state football team. The stadium and the utah football team was pretty flat at the beginning of the game but the wildcats came out fighting hard and they didnt give up the whole game, they were clealy outmatched but werent intimidated. WSU's offense, particularly the passing game, is as good or better than 1/4 of the MWC. The QB was accurate, elusive, and decisive. The RB ran hard and was always north/south.

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Ute Fan | 2:51 p.m. Sept. 29, 2008

Johnson would've been sacked a few times in that Weber St. game if he'd been facing a typical Div. I defense. He's still holding onto the ball too long in the pocket. Either get out of the pocket or get rid of the ball. Weber State's QB, on the other hand, showed much better awareness and completed some passes for big gains after scrambling.

Kyle did the smart thing by pulling his starters given the short week. And you can't criticize McBride for leaving his starters in. Simply put, you can NEVER criticize the coach of the team that's losing for leaving his starters in. Is he supposed to just give up?

I wouldn't bet a cent on this game Thursday either way. I hope the Ute defense comes to play from the opening kick, and not only after they give up that first touchdown.

Re: good prep | 2:53 p.m. Sept. 29, 2008

I liked your comments and agree that the Utes have a distinct advantage playing at home. I also share your concerns about turnovers. BJ has been inconsistent in his ability to hang on to the football. Overall, the offense needs to improve.

All of your points were legit. However I would counsel you to look up the meaning of the word "notorious" in the future.

Weber Is Not Good | 3:08 p.m. Sept. 29, 2008

I love how the Utes are justifying their team's subpar effort Saturday night by saying "I was impressed with Weber. They are a better than anyone will give them credit for." What a load...If BYU were to say the same about Northern Iowa, Utes would be the first to deride such comments. Just remember that Northern Iowa is ranked in the top 10 of the FCS Coaches Poll and Weber State is nowhere near the top 25.

Scheduling | 3:07 p.m. Sept. 29, 2008

How is it that we're still bickering over SOS?
1st - Teams are scheduled years in advance, all you can do it go out and play. Unfortunately, the pollsters put stock into SOS, but fans shouldn't. A win is a win. UNLV had some good wins, then got blasted over the weekend by a supposed inferior team. Hello, does anyone really think USC was nervous this week? Doubt it and they got smacked in the face. Their lack of prep blew up in their faces.
2nd - SOS is going to go up and down all season. Going into the game, UCLA was a tough team. They've rolled over and shown their colors and UW is what it is. MIchigan is a dog that got a good win this week that helps Utah, but Wisc lost which then diminshes the SOS of UNLV and by proxy Utah's schedule. Its up and down all season and as is true with college football, all that really matters is wins and the quality of those wins. BYU shutting out UCLA and WYO gives better visibility than a close win at home over WSU.

Beavers Rep | 3:14 p.m. Sept. 29, 2008

Hey Ute fans..Beaver Fan here looking fwd to a good game Thursday.

It looks like you have improved a lot from last year.so I expect the game to be a lot closer than the 24-7 win in Corvallis last year.

Ultimately I think whichever defense plays the best will win this one. The one thing decidedly in our favor is that we have a good secondary and play the pass well.

Our kicking game is a mess though and it could cost us in what should be a close game.

Re: LIttle Bro Where Art Thou | 3:14 p.m. Sept. 29, 2008

You come to Utah to tell them how to "set the stage before the big run?" Aren't the "big brothers" up north just following the formula set forth by Utah in 2003 and 2004???? Hey, keep coming back for advice. You may have STARTED the year in the top 20, but we've ALREADY done the BCS thing....so keep coming back if you want advice on how to "set the stage".

Also, I've noticed a lot of TDS fans cheering on the Utes so that your "resume" will look better. I figure the reason there is all the cheering is because, besides Utah, there is NOTHING to make your resume look better than a recent college grad with nothing more on his resume than Assistant Manager at Taco Bell. TDS better hope Utah is undefeated and top 10, because those great UCLA and WASH wins are looking worse and worse every week while Utah's MICH and OSU wins are looking better every week!!!!

Preseason rankings | 3:17 p.m. Sept. 29, 2008

All this talk about National Respect, what have you done?

Where do the in-state teams stack up?

BYU has a "Storied Program".

2001 Luke Staley Doak Walker Award
1991 Ty Detmer Davey O'Brien Award
1990 Ty Detmer Davey O'Brien Award
1990 Ty Detmer Heisman Memorial Trophy
1990 Ty Detmer Maxwell Award
1989 Mo Elewonibi Outland Trophy
1986 Jason Buck Outland Trophy
1984 National Championship
1983 Steve Young Davey O'Brien Award
1981 Jim McMahon Davey O'Brien Award

Utah State
1961 Merlin Olsen Outland Trophy

Weber State
1991 Jamie Martin Walter Payton Award

University of Utah

(HELLO -- hello -- hello -- hello).

National Respect is earned over time, not handed to you because your Big brother to the South has spent the years earning it.

Utes, simple challenge, just prove it on the field, over and over again. We "Old School" BYU fans have sat through the pre-Sheide era, through all the ups and down, and you finally get a seat at the table, and demand the head seat.

It ain't gonna happen.

You have a shot at something this year... Just do it.

I'll sit and listen to your smack after you win, and do it again, but after-you-win!!!

re:Duckman | 8:13 a.m. | 3:29 p.m. Sept. 29, 2008

You left out Michigan's come from behind win over Miami Ohio, and loss to Notre Dame.

Rodriguez is a heck of a coach, and has a better team now than when Utah played them. I'd be interested to see the score if Utah gets them in a Bowl game at the end of the year.

They would have tied you with the missed two-point conversion.

That was the game Kyle was preaching "One loss does not a season make".

Utah consistently wants to have it's cake, and eat it too.

Let the season play out, but for heaven's sake, stop it with the circular "Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon Ute Logic".

Is it any wonder kids have no ability to use logic when this tripe continues to come from the U of U's fanbase?

TrojanOne | 3:31 p.m. Sept. 29, 2008

OSU was lucky. Their special teams kicking was very poor, yet the ball bounced to the 10 every time. Their kickoff team is below average, can't kick it beyond the 10 yard line. They have no extra point nor field goal kicker. Their best WR is out (Sammy), and he is a superb downfield blocker, and their only good receiver. QB can't throw ball accurately beyond 15 yards. If you stop the run, which should be easy...Quiz will be hurting...it will be a walk in the park for the Utes!!

RE: Weber Is Not Good | 3:30 p.m. Sept. 29, 2008

I agree with most of what you said, but you blew your argument out of the way when you went on to brag about BYU's 2A opponent.
Please UTES, stop defending Weber and saying how good they looked. It was simply a win to pad the stats. Nothing more.
Also, BYU fans, the game was not as close as the score implied. Yes, it is a little embarassing that we let them score 21 on us, but it was not really a terrible performance either. The Utes simply need to move on and look at OSU as most of us are.
Congrats to BYU for getting where you are in the polls, but you have hit your ceiling until you play TCU, possibly even for the year.

RE: weber is not good | 3:32 p.m. Sept. 29, 2008

BYU beat a top 25 team in division 1AA. Hey nice job guys you won a game you were supposed too, just like Utah did. The score has nothing to do with the game. 14 points in garbage (last 5 minutes) time means nothing. To division 1A schools, no weber is not good, neither is northern iowa, that is the reason they are division 1AA. Is weber more talented that most give them credit, YES. Watch all spectrums of football before you say otherwise. Man can i please talk to a BYU fan that Knows about football and not just about BYU football, i know there is one out there, just give me a legititment argument why BYU should be a national power. I promise i can tell you otherwise

re:Re: LIttle Bro Where Art Thou | 3:33 p.m. Sept. 29, 2008

And we've done the NC thing.

It doesn't mean we don't come back for seconds.

If your defense could have covered Harline, or Collie on 4th and 18, you would probably be ranked higher than BYU right now. How do you not cover Austin Collie? How do you let Unga run in untouched from the 10 when you know BYU has an injured kicker?

BYU's ranking and Utah's ranking this year rests squarely on the shoulders of your defense.

Accept some personal responsibility, rather than giving excuses.

Cowboy up and do it this year.

After the past two years, you really have to reason to whine like you do.

BYU Dude | 3:41 p.m. Sept. 29, 2008

to:Re: LIttle Bro Where Art Thou | 3:14 p.m

Nope, Lil Bro, I cheer for Utah, like many BYU fans, because I want Utah to win. Not because it helps BYU, but I like Utah, I just have always been a Big BYU fan, but I still like to see another team from inside the state win. I also cheer for Utah State, and Weber.

"NOTHING to make your resume look better than a recent college grad with nothing more on his resume than Assistant Manager at Taco Bell."

I doubt you have ever seen this, and I'm guessing it's just a childish remark meant to hurt anyone that likes BYU, but working at Taco Bell is honest work, and I don't disrespect anyone who puts in a honest day. Too bad you felt the need.

I do hope your rant helps you out of your "Case of the Mondays..."

rankings | 3:47 p.m. Sept. 29, 2008

With a win against OSU, Utah will move up
With a win against USU, BYU will move down
BYU will be jumped by some of the same teams that lost this weekend even if the Y continues to win. What the teams do after you beat them does matter and the Y does not fare well in that arena. The one thing the Y has in there favor is there shut out wins. None of this really matters though, it will be decided on the field and if both teams continue to win the victor Nov 22nd will be sitting pretty.

Re: Re: Weber Is Not Good | 3:57 p.m. Sept. 29, 2008

It was not my intention to talk up Northern Iowa as a good opponent, even though I realize it may appear that way. I was simply trying to point out the irony in some Ute fans justifying the outcome against Weber State while those same fans ridiculed Cougar fans for attempting to qualify Northern Iowa as a decent opponent.

Re Little Brother Where Art Thou | 3:57 p.m. Sept. 29, 2008

Wow, just when I thought that Cougar fans couldn't get any more arrogant. Do you really believe you're God's gift to football? I really wish that BYU fans would stop the arrogant "we're the greatest football program of all time and even though the Utes have a better record than us in head to head match-ups we're still better". Wow, so when you decide to get over yourself and actually decide to pay attention to college football and the history of BYU football (I know it's hard, but BYU does have a history class, right?) then come and talk to Utah fans. Until then, you may want to go learn about dominance. It wasn't too long ago that Utah took 4 straight against you Cougs. And you may also remember the numbers 52-33-4. Do you know what that is? It's the record that UTAH leads in the series against BYU. I wouldn't feel too bad though, you'll catch up with us 19 years or so, if "the magic" continues. So, get the dominance right, and have a great day, little brother.

Len Knee Gomz | 3:59 p.m. Sept. 29, 2008

To Re: Little Brother Where Art Thou ...

Does pumping my gas look good on your resume?

Interesting | 4:02 p.m. Sept. 29, 2008

the same Cougar false pride because of the lofty ratings (subjective I might add) Nice record against teams with a combined 3 wins. Utahs schedule strength is rated 35 spots higher than BYU and the simulated BCS rankings out have Utah higher than BYU. Spout off Americas most hated school....it doesn't mean a thing it will come down to the last game of the season until then it is one opinion or the other and "my daddy can beat up your daddy"

Hey big brother... | 4:14 p.m. Sept. 29, 2008

Maybe you should do a little more homework before spouting your mouth. BYU started the year at 16 and 17. They had to beat the powerhouse UNI team before they moved to 15.

We all know the reason you are cheering for Utah this weekend is because you are hoping that after Nov 22, when "little brother" socks you in the mouth, you won't fall too far in the polls hanging on the small chance that the BCS people will give 2 non-BCS schools a bowl in the same year.

big brother | 4:42 p.m. Sept. 29, 2008

the term big brother is used to refer to an older sibling. Look at the dates and you will see that University of Utah is older than BYU so everyone from BYU quit saying that BYU is the big brother to Utah cause they aren't!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They are a big brother to Utah State but not to Utah.

Re: Re: where art thou.... | 5:00 p.m. Sept. 29, 2008

BYU's resume isn't like a recent college grad with nothing more than Assistant Manager at Taco Bell. I can't believe you would trash a team with such storied tradition like BYU....I mean...look above a few posts and see all of the accolades the University has to its name.

Come on....THE University of Northern Iowa, Washington, UCLA, Wyoming....and you're comparing that to Asstant Manager at Taco Bell???? Wow!!! That is pretty high praise. BYU's "resume" is more like a recent college grad with nothing more than experience as a Sales Associate at the local cell phone kiosk in the mall......oh, and the recent grad was also "associates" with Harline and Doak Walker winner Staley.....now that is some great experience....I'd hire him....to clean the bathrooms.

BYU's "resume" is non-existent this year. The only team with a winning record so far is the D1-AA team they played....congrats TDS for the top 10 ranking, despite playing absolutely NOBODY yet!!!!

Yada, Yada, Yada | 5:48 p.m. Sept. 29, 2008

BYU had to beat powerhouse UNI to move up, and Utah had to beat powerhouse Weber to move up. Yada, Yada, Yada.

You Ute honks just don't get it. Strength of schedule isn't the be-all, end-all to where a team gets ranked. The polls work based on how voters perceive your team. Just because a team plays a tougher schedule, does not mean they will be higher ranked (even if the records are similar). If one team is destroying opponents by a higher margin than they were expected to win, and another team is beating mediocre -- yes, mediocre -- teams by less points than they were expected to and look sloppy offensively while doing it, then guess what -- the first team's victories are probably going to be perceived in a better light by pollsters.

Utah may very well have played a tougher schedule -- so far -- than BYU. It doesn't matter. Utah was punished early on for last year's transgressions.

That's how the system works. Deal.

And to the dude who talked about Utah's 4 straight wins ... well, I remember a stretch where BYU won 19 out of 21. That's what I call dominance.

Anonymous | 5:54 p.m. Sept. 29, 2008

Dear Lenny Gomz:

So dude, my resume looks fine, but you don't need to care about that, now do you.

So why do you need to slam people who work at gas stations...

It's honest work.

What's your problem with that?

Nashing...Angry Beavers | 6:06 p.m. Sept. 29, 2008

After all the bad mouthing, about the lack of a quality opponent, didn't BYU's second & third stringer's keep Wyoming and UCLA out of the end zone...the time they were in? A bad taste in their mouth's? Sounds like someone swallowed their burped up cheesy hotdog on the sideline...imagine that....a burped up cheesy hotdog in comparison the utes keeping the wildcats out of the endzone....and don't you haters feel a little stupid......hey...where is that WeeWilly Guy and the Anonymous dude that constantly rattles our chain on these threads....?

And does one think that for a moment that the Angry Beavers up at Oregon State read the locker room fodder that you jokes from the Yew spattered the papers with last about being cheated out of your win because your guys were injured...well their all better now aren't they.....makes you wonder if you think that your team think themselves better than USC and that a win over the beav's will be easier because the game is in Salt Lake.....and...and that the Beav's don't have a little conference payback for all the kind things MWC fans have said about the PAC-Ten....Look at CSU....big thump by the GBears???

Scary thoughts....Nightmares of Angry Beavers...........LOL

re:Re: Re: where art thou.... | | 6:16 p.m. Sept. 29, 2008

I can't believe the world of the troubled Ute fan.

Let's see...

UCLA - Weber State...

UCLA - Weber State...

What's your problem with Luke Staley anyway.

Same year, Utah had Damien Hunter, a top 20 running back in the nation, and he was only #2 in the conference. Hunter was good, but Post-Utah, he's had his legal problems, but he's really a good kid, and I wish he was working selling cell phones.

Look around your stadium at all of the Ute Fans who you are bashing by smacking Taco Bell, Gas stations, and Cell phone salespeople.

to:Re Little Brother|3:57 p.m
We're not "God's gift to football", we're just the State of Utah's gift to football.

Someone needed to step into the role.

re: Big Brother... I think it means that we have just done more in the time we have existed than Utah. The Awards case at the U of U has got to be bulging with that "BCS Buster Trophy".

Our trophy case is fine... See awards above... If going by Trophy Cases, Utah is little Brother to USU and Weber State.

So go and find another hard working, honest citizen to slam... We'll wait for you.

To Little Brother Where Art Thou | 6:36 p.m. Sept. 29, 2008

It feels almost as good as looking at the computer rankings and seeing utah ranked 1,2,3,5 in the nation, and to take it further seeing that feels alomst as good as going to a BCS game and seeing your team destroy the competition. Call me if you ever have any questions about how that feels "big brother"

Re:Sock in the Mouth?Think Again | 6:54 p.m. Sept. 29, 2008

I'll remeber the sock in the mouth part ute man.....got a sock in the mouth for me....I'll get up and pity on you....just what BYU will do to your utes.....see ya in November.......

To:Nashing...Angry Beavers? | 7:10 p.m. Sept. 29, 2008

um...what? Cohesive and coherent statements please...if you're gonna troll at least make an attempt to sound sober, cause you're trying to pretend you're a BYU fan...and...us Utah fans know BYU fans don't drink(except for catholic matt...how did that happen?.) So just keep that in mind.

Clueless Utes | 7:13 p.m. Sept. 29, 2008

to:"rankings | 3:47 p.m. Sept. 29, 2008
With a win against OSU, Utah will move up
With a win against USU, BYU will move down"

Weren't you predicting the same things last week? Who has the national respect right now?

What, at Utah, do you think if you keep saying it, it will happen?

Reality happens when you have a storied program and demolish another storied program, not when a wannabe teams reserve defense can't hold Weber State's high powered offense. Not when it come's down to the wire against AFA. or a "don't know who they are Michigan".

How does Utah State score on you first?

How do you let Weber state score 21 points?

You cannot protect your own house!!!

Dudes, just be really thankful for where you are at, because after Oregon State, you will be back where you belong, "others getting votes".

I hear a glass of wine at dinner is good for you, but you poor clueless Utes are making whine by the barrel lately.

Scoobie | 8:22 p.m. Sept. 29, 2008

Ref: Little Brother where art thou
Wow... You got a bone begrudginly thrown to you in 2004 and you're just as happy as can be....tail waggin and struttin about.........

Let's talk a little about how you got that bone....

"WE" crash the party and steal the whole meal in 83 and eat the cake in 84....

"WE Tick off Ohio State and the Big 10 Commissioners...
They conceive the BCS and formulate "the alliance"

They get the SEC, Big 12, Big East, ACC and the PAC 10....but not "their precious" The Rose Bowl!!!

1994-1997 prove to be a disaster...No consensus National Champions in any of the Rose's 3 little sisters...they even have problems with the AP
picking Co Champions.....but the biggest insult of all... BYU has the audacity to bash them in the face in 1996 with a 13-1 #7 team "THE ONLY' non bcs team to meet the $7 or higher criteria.....and refuse to serve us because we ordered Milk instead of Beer or alcohol...we finish the year 14-1 at #5.

On our climb we pick up a Heisman,... Two QB's "Win" 3 NFL rings..."WE'RE NOW #6 & #8 ...and you have, your begrudged bone, from the "ALLMIGHTY bcs."

storied program | 8:27 p.m. Sept. 29, 2008

what storied programs have you "demolished" in the last 4 years?...and you have to exclude programs that are historically good but having a so-so year as took out Michigan for us, yeah the one that just beat Wisconsin, guess they must know at least a little something about themselves. So good lcuk meeting up to your own requirements, the last ones I can think of are Texas A&M and Washington in '96.

To: Scoobie | 8:44 p.m. Sept. 29, 2008

Well if you were alive to experience the mid-eighties, congratulations on living past fourty and I hope the next fourty are just as good. as for your '96 team, unfortunatly they didn't have what it takes to go undefeated, a feat only accomplished by your '84 championship team and our team in '04, sorry but thats what you have to do to get in, if utah would have lost a game that year they would have never made it in, if you wanna blame it on your preference of drink than go ahead and whine. If you get into a BCS game this year its not like any BCS team is gonna be happy so I don't see how the "having a bone begrundginly throw to us" is even relivant since thats the same way it would be with you. And yes we do have that BCS bone, you can call it whatever you want to try to degrade it but from what I hear from your team and every other team in the nation its a pretty popular thing to have, so I'm cool with it, and I'm pretty sure you would be too if you had one.

Re: Overrated? | 8:46 p.m. Sept. 29, 2008

"....this is the same UNLV team that got it handed to them by 22 point by the Nevada Wolfpack?" First off, UNR pulled away in the 2nd half. Secondly, UNR's only losses have been to Mizzou and Texas Tech, two highly-ranked teams. In four weeks, UNR will be 6-2. UNR is a decent team with a decent program and this was a rivalry game. They will be a factor in the WAC (i.e., ranked BSU and ranked FSU). You should check your stats before posting. BTW, it's 22 points, not 22 point. I just wanted to let know. Thanks.

Lame Student Section | 8:58 p.m. Sept. 29, 2008

I had to scalp a ticket to see the Weber State game only to find out there were nearly 850 seats available in the student section. What's up with the lame student section? Every seat was full except for the lame SS. Either the students need to get on the ball and attend the game against Oregon State or release half their section to the public.

Dave | 9:07 p.m. Sept. 29, 2008

I love how all of you pathetic Zoobies keep commenting and trying to convince yourselves that your schedule can compare to the Utes so far.

Get over it!! You have played nobody yet this year and until you play TCU in a couple of weeks all of the stats you can throw out don't mean a thing.

SHUT UP for a change!!!

RE: Yada, Yada, Yada | 9:34 p.m. Sept. 29, 2008

Your comments were decent at first. The Utes have played a much harder schedule. Michigan (Utah's first victory) just defeated #9 Wisconsin; UNLV (Utah's second victory) defeated then-#15 Arizona State; and Air Force is 3-1, its only loss coming to the Utes.

On the other hand, BYU defeated I-AA Northern Iowa AT HOME (NIU is only 2-2 now), a very bad UCLA AT HOME (UCLA is currently 1-3); and, again AT HOME, an awful Wyoming team (2-3 with victories over lowly Ohio U. and North Dakota State).

Now the question is this: How will BYU do on the road against better competition? (USU doesn't count.) Also, it's always interesting to me how BYU fans can't leave the Utes' newspaper comments section alone.

But, since you started it, you talk about a stretch where BYU won 19 out of 21 games. You conveniently stop there. Let's go back further, like, where you left off. Previous to the 19 in 21 stretch for BYU, the University of Utah won 38 out of 44 against BYU (with 3 ties). That's not merely greater dominance, THAT'S A MASSACRE!!!!

And yes, GO UTES!!!!

Conejo | 9:51 p.m. Sept. 29, 2008

Utah seems to always live off emotion. A closer than expected game against Weber St. is par for the course. If Utah doesn't have a reason to be excited for a game they usually play poorly. I think Oregon St. has their full attention now and Utah should play more to their potential than last week. I say Utes win 31-24

Scoobie | 10:04 p.m. Sept. 29, 2008

Ref; Storied programs
Yes, Very Impressive how a bunch of new Freshmen, a new Coach and a completely new system can totally screw up the first 2 1/2 qtrs of a game and then score 27 unaswered points.......very familiar story line....Hmmmmmmmmmmm top five rushing offense , two national leading rushers... their ahead by 20 points and only 4 minutes remaining in the game. Injured Quaterback...i.e hyperextended knee rallies team ...drives down field... scores....defense holds...blocks punt......offense takes over.... injured QB drives down field scores again....kicking team lines up to kickoff.... shift position kick onside kick and recover ball ....Injured QB back in... 17 seconds left on the clock ...Takes snap eludes 1 then 2 tacklers rolls right and throws on the run to the end zone... reciever is up in the air and so are two no three denders.....TOUCH DOWN !!!
We now have a tied game and less than 7 seconds remaining on the clock. Ball is snapped it's down and...HOLY MOLEY... LADIES AND GENTLEMAN BYU has just come back and scored 21 unsnswered points and beaten Eric Dickerson, Craig James and The SMU Mustangs

Yeah.... Michigan's win was somthing akin to that....Still fail to see your point.

Scoobie | 10:41 p.m. Sept. 29, 2008

REF: REF Scoobie

This is supposed to be about the UTE'S upcoming game with Oregon State. What's my age or physical condition got to do with the game. You pulled this hyped smack last year.... and we beat you. You pulled it the year before....and we beat you.
Not that this has anything to do with anything but, as a former SSG and now a 58 year old Army Major with combat tours in Vietnam and Desert Storm... I still get more done by 8 oclock in the morning than you probably get accomplished all day. If you've got something substantial to say about BYU or for that matter Utey Tootie Football then say it.....otherwise your wasting mine and everybody elses time. Do you think that the BCS cares that you rocked the boat once. I'm rooting for the utes just as much as you are up to the 22nd of Nov. Don't you Utes have any pride beyond the conference. Because you are part of the same conference your 2004 showing is substantial....but the snubbing of the 1996 cougars is just as substantial... try enjoying the success that both the WAC and MWC dominate.....bashing the Almighty farce...the bcs.

Wow | 10:50 p.m. Sept. 29, 2008

Wow, BYU fans can't win. It's fine for U fans to sit around and talk up their team, but when BYU fans start doing it they're "the most arrogant fans ever"

This is how the comments have gone:

U fan: Our team is awesome! WE are the best team in the state and way better than the TDS because our SOS is stronger and we went to a BCS bowl 4 years ago!

Y fan: Our team is awesome! WE are the best team in the state and way better than the UTES (yeah, your REAL name becuse we don't say stupid things like "TDS")becuase we have better wins and we won a national championship.

U fan: I am appalled that a BYU fan would talk his team up, BYU fans are the most arrogant fans in the world.

Think about it.

Here's my take. I have never actually rooted for the U to win a game, but I desperately want them to kick OSU's trash!!! This season has helped me learn that when your conference wins it's OOC games, they actually do get national respect.

RE: Wow | 10:55 p.m. Sept. 29, 2008

Ha, right on Wow.

I also agree with you on the conference getting more respect. Last night on ESPN all of the anchors agreed that they would put a 1 loss BYU in the National Championship before they would put a 1 loss USC, strictly because we play in a stronger conference.

For this reaso, I want the Utes to SMASH the Beavers. Seriously, I have never actually rooted for the Utes, but come Thursday I will be a Ute fan for a day! Let's show the PAC-10 that we OWN them!!! Especailly since CSU laid an egg on Saturday against Cal.

true Ute | 11:03 p.m. Sept. 29, 2008

Sorry fellas, I gotta go with my gut on this one.

Beavers 35
Utes 21

They are pretty strong up front, and their offense is bruising. I watched both the USC game and the Penn State game, this team just woke up, and we are next in line.

Oh well, we will beat BYU this year, and head to the Vegas bowl (oh yay). Hey, that brings up a good point. That is a seriouse slap in our faces, the fact that if we win this conference our reward is the Vegas Bowl?!!? That is just deplorable!.

GO BEAVS | 11:08 p.m. Sept. 29, 2008

Here we come Utes!!!

Mike Johnson Fallon NV | 12:00 a.m. Sept. 30, 2008

The BCS computers love Utah. Four of the six are reporting their results right now. Sagarin's ELO Chess (his BCS ranking) has Utah 2nd behind Alabama. Colley has Utah 3rd. Massey has Utah 4th. Billingsley has Utah 17th.

I don't know if they will continue to like Utah, even if Utah goes undefeated. But for now, they love Utah.

My BYU Cousins | 12:19 a.m. Sept. 30, 2008

Hey Guys:

I haven't done anything as formal as count posts, but it seems like most of the BYU fans are wishing us luck this week with the Beavers.

Thanks! Right back at you.

Hopefully on Friday, June Cleaver and all the sports prognasticators will say, "Hey, Utah, don't you think you were a little hard on the Beavers last night?"

bakerb | 1:04 a.m. Sept. 30, 2008

Re: Overrated,

It really makes me chuckle to see Posters make a Comment, "my Team is better than your Team, because..." then as if to emphasize the point they identify a grammatical/spelling error by another opposing Poster.

In your case, you stated, "BTW, it's 22 points, not 22 point. I just wanted to let know. Thanks." If you are going to provide an English Lesson it is best if you don't undermine your credibility in the very next sentence. It did provide some humor though.

It is a great year to be a BYU/UTAH Fan! Let's enjoy the ride and see what happens on Nov 22. It should be very exciting if BOTH teams can live up to the expectations.

BKB

BTW - I will readily admit that UTAH dominated all those games that my Grandpa used to watch when he was attending BYU. When I was 12 and began paying attention to Football, this guy named Lavell Edwards became the Head Coach at BYU. My memories of the BYU - UTAH Rivalry are somewhat lopsided. So, I can understand that if you are 17 your perception of the Rivalry might be different.

Re Wow | 8:20 a.m. Sept. 30, 2008

It really has nothing to do with BYU fans talking up their team. I have nothing against that and I don't think Utah fans have anything against that. What we do have problems with is when BYU fans talk up their team and say how miserable Utah/Utah fans are and how much they hate us and how BYU can compete in the SEC and how they're going to win the NC and how they say Utah is just the little brother. That's when we call BYU fans arrogant. I have no problem with the real BYU fans who come on and say BYU is good and they're looking forward to the game against Utah and how Utah is good. And by the way, I hate all arrogant Utah fans too. There are some fans on both sides that actually think before typing

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