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To all Democrats | 3:35 p.m. Sept. 28, 2008
I on the other hand am becoming more conservative as I grow older. My tolerance for the lazy and for those who make poor choices and expect others to pay for it is dwindling. My patience for those who consider only left-thinkers "open minded" (and yet shut out all thought or argument from the right - or even center) is nil.

I have a right to a different opinion than you on abortion, gay marriage, gun control, foreign policy, welfare, taxes, drug policy, crime and punishment, etc.

Your "in your face" approach only hardens me in my beliefs and opinions.

I pay far more than my fair share of taxes. Believe it or not, I feel I have a right to be represented.

In closing, if you can name me just ONE example where socialism or communism has EVER worked, I will hear you out. Or, at least answer the question, "if the left is so great, why is it always forced on the people against their will?" (examples: USSR, Cuba, China, N. Korea, etc)???
mark | 3:45 p.m. Sept. 28, 2008
The conservatives on this page that parrot Limbaugh with their mocking of Obama's speech patterns are vile, small minded, fools. It is actually rather funny to listen to Limbaugh, on his show, after making fun of Obama, search and hem and huh and stutter looking for the right words himself. Priceless really.
Posted by someone who has dealt with a severe speech impediment.
obama | 3:57 p.m. Sept. 28, 2008
obama can't Mccain cant. lets just call him "Mccant."
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Anonymous | 5:38 p.m. Sept. 28, 2008
China, USSR, North Korea, and Cuba are not examples of socialism.

If you are opposed to big government then you are likely against our current president. Illegal wire tapping, detainment of individuals with out due process, manipulation of scientific reports, unwarranted attacks and occupations of another country, acquiring private enterprises like AIG, would be things that you would be against. You would also be against government defining marriage.
Anonymous | 5:42 p.m. Sept. 28, 2008
...It's what you say after a pause. All you Rush Limbaugh disciples (whipped up and angry as you always are), try listening to a broad range of opinions and ideas and guaranteed you'll learn something. The fact that you still cling to the human fiasco called President Bush while stubbornly sitting in the middle of all the crap that he's left our country in is a testament to something and it's not good. Rush Limbaugh could use that brain of his to others benefit instead he manipulates and you followers let him.
Porky Pig | 6:19 p.m. Sept. 28, 2008
Obama sounds like Porky Pig when he has speak without a teleprompter. McCain whipped him and the only reason Obama has a claim to victory is because of the MSM who come out and defend him and spin his performance like it was actually good. Reading through these posts and listening to so called experts on the news, the only reason Obama won is because he looks and sounds "presedential" lol. I guess stuttering like Bush makes him sound Presedential.

All I heard from Obama was bush, bush and more bush. I guess if he fails as a President, he will probably still blame Bush. The one thing that he really fails at is trying to tie McCain to Bush. Anyone who has watched McCain over the years knows he is anything but another Bush. McCain gave examples of his accomplishments and well Obama just kept talking about Bush.
Obama did fine | 7:15 p.m. Sept. 28, 2008
at least he looked at the other people. McCain couldn't even look in the face of anyone....just kept saying you don't understand. McCain looked and acted like the bully he is. Plus, he had no solid answers, just...you don't understand. Though CNN and viewers felt that Obama was the clear winner I don't really see it. However, McCain did not win anything. In fact, as the year has gone on, he's lost even my respect.
RE: Mark | 7:20 p.m. Sept. 28, 2008
Don't liberals make fun of Bush for his speech patterns?

All's fair in love and politics, I guess.

What about this Middle Class? | 7:53 p.m. Sept. 28, 2008
I am quite tired of the DEms refering to "classes". You want to know why Mc Cain didn't refer to a Middle Class? It's because he doesn't believe in a "Class" society. The "Classes" are a product of the Lenin/Marx writings.....the working class, the upper class, the class for this, the class for that....STOP IT. Stop trying to make this a class society. Are we not all Americans? What are you trying to do, turn this into a caste system? Heaven forbid!!
Remember.... | 7:57 p.m. Sept. 28, 2008
It was the Democrats who refered to us a being in "fly-over" states. According to them, only the coasts are worth their attention.

It was the Democrats who said they didn't need Ohio in 2004, if they weren't going to play like the Dems wanted them too, they didn't need them. Well, they needed them and they were too arrogant to know it.

When political parties get too big for their britches, they deserve to lose........again and again and again..
UGH! SOMEONE EXPLAIN 2ME | 9:36 p.m. Sept. 28, 2008
....why or how anyone with a functioning brain and a love for the U.S. Constitution would ever waste valuable oxygen trying to defend either of the two bozos I watched in the debate. Any politician who cannot see the absolute indecency and irresponsibility of the proposed bailout (or any government bailout, for that matter) should be sent home immediately and chained to their desk with a copy of the Constitution and a copy of Washington's Farewell Address and they should handcopy them down twenty times each, and memorize both verbatim, before they are allowed to hold public office of any level.

Is either of these guys really worth all the defending they receive? Are they?
Everyone write in your favorite independent or third party candidate, PLEASE!!!!!!! No, he or she won't win this next election, but if enough people buck the trend to vote D or R it should create sufficient stir to give other folks a genuine shot four years down the road. Right now it isn't so important to get a win for the underdog as much as it is to show that we want them to get equal publicity and airtime next go-around.

Agreed?
What about this Middle Class? | 9:56 p.m. Sept. 28, 2008
"You want to know why Mc Cain didn't refer to a Middle Class? It's because he doesn't believe in a "Class" society. The "Classes" are a product of the Lenin/Marx writings"
What? Tell that to all of Europe in the 1700?
I guess I would not bring it up either if I married a multi-millionaire
mark | 10:40 p.m. Sept. 28, 2008
To 7:20: Does that make it right?
re:anon 5:48pm | 11:19 p.m. Sept. 28, 2008
Very nice, but you still didn't name an example of where socialism works. That's because it doesn't.

There is no way I'm going to bust my butt and take risks when all it gets me is taxed down to the level of the lazy, stupid and irresponsible.

Socialism doesn't work.
Communism doesn't work.
Liberalism is a symptom of decaying morals in our society.
Parker | 11:58 p.m. Sept. 28, 2008
Independents and undecideds like I am overwhelmingly thought Obama was more presidential. Who cares what all the Utah-menions think -- it's all those previously uncommitted that matter. Obama did much better among them, and is moving well ahead of McBush.

The election is well within victory for the Democratic Party. After the Biden-Palin debate: Game over!
Larry H | 3:48 a.m. Sept. 29, 2008
The US elects a new President every four years. We use a two party system. Regardless of personal opinions about the candidates, the process has presented us with two men to choose from, one of which will be the next President. Our purpose in our election system should be to make the best of what we have. The time to rant and rave, make wild accusations, etc., is past. Now it is time to make a choice. If Obama is elected, the majority of the people agree with liberal principles. If McCain wins, the message is that liberal principles are not wanted BY THE MAJORITY. Neither man will control the US or the world by himself. Obama reminds me of Jimmy Carter; a good man with good intentions (I hope), but naiive about how things work. McCain is also a good man, a human with faults but trying to move us in a conservative direction. He really is a maverick. He is NOT Bush. I don't believe all the negativism which shows up here every day will bring about anything good. And the complaints about how the campaigns attack the opponent-that is done by both sides! Sorry_I_am_out_of_room.
No class | 12:26 p.m. Sept. 30, 2008
Obama looked McCain dead in the side of the face.
The side of the face that McCain showed
to Obama for the entire debate. Is this really
the way we want our leaders to treat important
people in our own country, or other leaders he
may disagree with?

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