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fed up | 3:22 a.m. Sept. 28, 2008
I'm sick of candidates (particularly McCain) who feel they have to put
their opponent down to build themselves up. I can't wait til mid-November
when all this nonsense is over. I hate politics, and politicians. Promote
yourself, and stick to the issues, but don't slam someone else with
falsehoods and innuendo.
McCain won | 3:36 a.m. Sept. 28, 2008
Obama uh, is not the,best orator, uh, but, eh, uh, rather, the king of, uh,
stuttering.
awesomeron | 4:34 a.m. Sept. 28, 2008
I do not think that the Election is decided on the basis of the Debates. I think
that the Debates are to get the Candidates more exposure and face time. If that
is the case there is No Real Winner or Loser, unless there is a gross mess up
like some one uses the N Ward. Or they give up something else the media can feed
on. Or come on stage with their fly open.
I did not watch the Debate and very little News About the Debate. The main reason being that I did not want the stress of looking at Obamas Face. Mostly Due to his stand on Abortion, Partial Birth Abortion, and the Continued Human Rights Violation of the Genocide of the Unborn. Dressed by the Liberal Tentmakers as "A Women�s Right TO Choose" Result being the same Heck just as Hot, and Just as eternal. The young scared Mothers are mostly victims of the Liberal Lie, so I hold out great hope for them. To live with the Realization of what they have done and the lies they listened to in order to do it, must be very hard to live with, once reality strikes.
I did not watch the Debate and very little News About the Debate. The main reason being that I did not want the stress of looking at Obamas Face. Mostly Due to his stand on Abortion, Partial Birth Abortion, and the Continued Human Rights Violation of the Genocide of the Unborn. Dressed by the Liberal Tentmakers as "A Women�s Right TO Choose" Result being the same Heck just as Hot, and Just as eternal. The young scared Mothers are mostly victims of the Liberal Lie, so I hold out great hope for them. To live with the Realization of what they have done and the lies they listened to in order to do it, must be very hard to live with, once reality strikes.
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Yawn | 6:24 a.m. Sept. 28, 2008
I wasn't impressed with the dabate. It was just more campaign trail
rhetoric, no concrete plans for much of anything. When Jim Lehrer tried to pin
the candidates down on which of their most important "to-dos" had to
be cut due to the economic crisis, neither would give a straight answer.
I guess I'll flip a coin in November.
I guess I'll flip a coin in November.
Spin on Polls? | 6:40 a.m. Sept. 28, 2008
My inner sight tells me that the "polls" that we are getting to say
the Democrats claim their candidate are ahead are Wrong!. The figures do not
include those who are of the third party. Agree?
I also point out that those votes are going to be what swing the election coming up will tell a different story if you will. The eloquence, smooth talking snake oil salesman may think he "got it." But one that stands firm in his position may not appear as polished. It is imperative that the votes are reported fairly. No spinning.
We must not be deceived, is my point. The sky is NOT falling, and the Emperor has NO new clothes....
It looks to me like if the polls are asked of one party the results will appear to be stacked in their favor.
I also point out that those votes are going to be what swing the election coming up will tell a different story if you will. The eloquence, smooth talking snake oil salesman may think he "got it." But one that stands firm in his position may not appear as polished. It is imperative that the votes are reported fairly. No spinning.
We must not be deceived, is my point. The sky is NOT falling, and the Emperor has NO new clothes....
It looks to me like if the polls are asked of one party the results will appear to be stacked in their favor.
Morals | 7:35 a.m. Sept. 28, 2008
I think the American people have thrown morals out the window. As I see it, uh,
uh, uh A vote for uh, Obama would be a step in the uh, uh, unmoral side of the
fence. Abortion would be approved without the consent of the parents, our troops
would come home and terrorists would re-group and attack again, only worse. The
NRA would be under attack and only criminals would have guns.
McCain would get rid of "cost-plus" programs that literally cost billions because it's a free ticket for big business to "charge whatever they want" to the government. McCain speaks of "HOW" he would cut taxes. Obama only says that he will cut taxes. I'm concerned that the only "Change" Obama wants is to stake claim as the first Black president and then the "Change" goes in his pocket.
McCain would get rid of "cost-plus" programs that literally cost billions because it's a free ticket for big business to "charge whatever they want" to the government. McCain speaks of "HOW" he would cut taxes. Obama only says that he will cut taxes. I'm concerned that the only "Change" Obama wants is to stake claim as the first Black president and then the "Change" goes in his pocket.
Obama won | 7:47 a.m. Sept. 28, 2008
by a slight margin. I love how people argue that Obama doesn't have
experience to make tough foreign policy decisions, yet he is one of the only
elected officials to have the foresight that the Iraq war was misguided, and we
were taking our eye off the real target, Al Qaeda in Afghanistan.
Obama's margin will only increase the more Palin does interviews with the press. Did you see that CBS interview, yikes!
Obama's margin will only increase the more Palin does interviews with the press. Did you see that CBS interview, yikes!
what? | 7:57 a.m. Sept. 28, 2008
To Obamawon
What debate were you watching. Obama, who has zero real executive experience, came across as a self promoting, pompus little twerp, without the the grace to show respect to his obvious superior. McCain clearly has more experience and gravitas. It reminded me of a shave-tail lieutenent mouthing off to a commander and the latter having to bite his tongue. McCain was in control, much to his credit.
What debate were you watching. Obama, who has zero real executive experience, came across as a self promoting, pompus little twerp, without the the grace to show respect to his obvious superior. McCain clearly has more experience and gravitas. It reminded me of a shave-tail lieutenent mouthing off to a commander and the latter having to bite his tongue. McCain was in control, much to his credit.
RE: Morals | 8:08 a.m. Sept. 28, 2008
Please note the US Supreme Court Roe v. Wade. Abortion is legal in the US. Your
fear tactics are lame. Actually, Obama would not bring our troops home, he would
focus them on chasing down Al Qaeda in Afghanistan. Once again, unfounded stupid
fear tactics.
An Independent | 8:24 a.m. Sept. 28, 2008
Obama seemed to have the edge during the first part of the debate that dealt
with economic matters. He challenged McCain on tax cuts and McCain would not
refute Obama�s challenges to McCain�s
tax plans.
However with respect to the second half of the debate dealing with foreign affairs McCain blew Obama away. Obama is an empty suit. The dude has a few memorized lines but is totally clueless about dealing with world leaders and current events.
Also, Obama also came off as condescending and aloof. He was not respectful to McCain continually referring to him as �John� and on one occasion �Tom.� He seemed to want to bait McCain into showing his angry streak however McCain remained composed and respectful always refereeing to Obama as �Senator Obama.�
I am an Independent. Before the debate, I truly felt that I could vote for either man without reservation. McCain won me over. There is no way I want Obama and his naivet� sitting in the Oval Office.
However with respect to the second half of the debate dealing with foreign affairs McCain blew Obama away. Obama is an empty suit. The dude has a few memorized lines but is totally clueless about dealing with world leaders and current events.
Also, Obama also came off as condescending and aloof. He was not respectful to McCain continually referring to him as �John� and on one occasion �Tom.� He seemed to want to bait McCain into showing his angry streak however McCain remained composed and respectful always refereeing to Obama as �Senator Obama.�
I am an Independent. Before the debate, I truly felt that I could vote for either man without reservation. McCain won me over. There is no way I want Obama and his naivet� sitting in the Oval Office.
Grimble | 8:28 a.m. Sept. 28, 2008
All the people making fun of Obama's speech habits are really, really
funny. I bet you were really hilarious in high school, and that you have
maintained that same high standard for comedy since then. Also, I hoped
you're practicing your run-on sentences, unrelated clauses, and
"I'll get back to yous" for the VP debate.
Those of you basing your vote solely on the abortion issue must be livid that the Republicans had the White House, the majority in the Senate, the majority in the House, and the majority of appointees on the Supreme Court, for SIX YEARS and somehow didn't bother to do anything about the abortion issue.
It's almost as if they were using abortion as a wedge issue to get y'all to the polls so they could continue fleecing the country. Makes you wonder...
Those of you basing your vote solely on the abortion issue must be livid that the Republicans had the White House, the majority in the Senate, the majority in the House, and the majority of appointees on the Supreme Court, for SIX YEARS and somehow didn't bother to do anything about the abortion issue.
It's almost as if they were using abortion as a wedge issue to get y'all to the polls so they could continue fleecing the country. Makes you wonder...
UH...UH...UH... | 8:35 a.m. Sept. 28, 2008
Obama sure is a thinker.....uh, uh, uh,....I had a "teacher (not a
professor) at a school I attended as a freshman who also couldn't say a
sentence without an "uh", and it wasn't Harvard..... We counted
128 uh's in a 50 minute class.
When you have to watch every word you say, maybe you really don/t have any true commitments. Now that is a concern....uh, uh, or uh, politics is what really matters, uh, uh.....!
One thing for sure is, when he sits down to talk with Terroists, he's going to bore them to death.
When you have to watch every word you say, maybe you really don/t have any true commitments. Now that is a concern....uh, uh, or uh, politics is what really matters, uh, uh.....!
One thing for sure is, when he sits down to talk with Terroists, he's going to bore them to death.
Reality | 8:59 a.m. Sept. 28, 2008
I am sick of the political campaigns. I am sick of the blame game and I'm
the hero you need. I am sick of the length of these campaigns.Billions being
spent to here lies. Just who does this benefit? One group only the media. Do
these politicans actually believe that we the voters can't see, and that we
don't know what has been going on? Cut these campaigns to the maximum of 6
months duration. Now what is this derogatory kid like lying all about? Why just
why does Karl Rove and the rest of his tribe need to make these uncalled for
snide, child like, character accusations about the other party leaders when we
all know they are lies? To make these kind of comments and then smirk or giggle
like I gotcha makes me sick. Clean up your campaign republicans and just explain
why our country has been put in the sewer under your watch and control. And I
don't want to hear about the Dem control the last 21 months as an excuse.
All of this was in the ditch before that. Truth up or get out.
Listen on Radio | 9:08 a.m. Sept. 28, 2008
If you listen on radio, the obvious winner was McCain. He was clear as to the
initial actions to put the country back towards fiscal responsibility, clear
that winning the war is a must, clear that Mr. Obama is the Neviell Chamberlain
of our time. Mr. Obama, was clear that in spite of the 788 billion bailout, he
would still pursue massive government programs for early childhood education,
healthcare, and continued to misrepresent his tax plan, which increases taxes on
every working American Family with earnings of $42,000 or above. Try the radio,
you hear the words, and you will not be influenced by the visual effects of the
camera.
Unfair Debate | 9:17 a.m. Sept. 28, 2008
They should have included all six candidates running. Seeing the two presented
on Friday was like seeing the same man, besides the age and race difference.
Both want foreign interventionism (just slightly different emphasis on which
countries need more focus), neither have a clue how to fix the economy - they
didn't even touch the issue of our failing dollar and our monetary policy
failure. Both want to spend into the oblivion - one on entitlement programs and
one of the military. There was no talk of budget cuts, even when pressed to
explain how things would change in light of our economic crisis.
A vote for a third party candidate would stop being a wasted vote if the majority of Americans decided to vote for him / her. We should vote based on who best represents us and our principles. I know everyone is an individual, but neither mainstream candidate represents the values of the predominant religion here: McCain believes in more war, deficit spending definitely hasn't lived a moral life. Obama believes in entitlement and coercion rather than self-reliance and agency. If you're LDS, neither candidates reflects your religious values. You should look at Chuck Baldwin.
A vote for a third party candidate would stop being a wasted vote if the majority of Americans decided to vote for him / her. We should vote based on who best represents us and our principles. I know everyone is an individual, but neither mainstream candidate represents the values of the predominant religion here: McCain believes in more war, deficit spending definitely hasn't lived a moral life. Obama believes in entitlement and coercion rather than self-reliance and agency. If you're LDS, neither candidates reflects your religious values. You should look at Chuck Baldwin.
Military and War | 9:21 a.m. Sept. 28, 2008
McDuff just wants to talk about both because it is all that his complete life
has revolved around. My way or the highway attitude just like the Bush
administration has left us with no respect around the world, except with one
other country with the same approach Israel. Were have our friends and allies
gone? Why are we and for all intense and purposes fighting and financing the war
against terrorism by ourselves? It's mainly about this self centered
attitude towards others. We had better change our ways and negoitate with others
soon or all may very well be lost. We will be just like Israel, surrounded by a
world that doesn't like us. Where O where have our allies and friends gone?
Anonymous | 9:23 a.m. Sept. 28, 2008
Pretty much every poll-maker have this debate to Obama, although as expected
Obama supporters think he won, McCain supporters think he did.
Very little new information to anyone who has actually been following the campaign.
But McCain looked scarily old and frail. not good.
Very little new information to anyone who has actually been following the campaign.
But McCain looked scarily old and frail. not good.
re obama won | 9:28 a.m. Sept. 28, 2008
you must have believed that Obama would win before he debated or that McCain
wouldn't show up.
Did you count how many time Obama said either john is right or senetor McCain is wright. go back listen again and count. I lost count after 10 times. how many times did McCain give obama history lessons in answering why obama's stated positions were nieve. it did not stop with foreign policy eaither. the same thing happend on the economy, taxes, spending, earmarks and energy. obama won? I think not.
your one point where you say obama won was his position on the war. where he said that he was against the war. the only problem with that is that he was speaking as a member of the illinoise state senate not the US Senate as he implies.
so what, your local politition monday morning quarterbacks an issue. he had no responsibility to make the decision to go war. his comments could have gotten him elected to the us Senate, but is that enough to say that he should be president only if you take the whole package higher taxes and spending. Obama is not presidenial material.
Did you count how many time Obama said either john is right or senetor McCain is wright. go back listen again and count. I lost count after 10 times. how many times did McCain give obama history lessons in answering why obama's stated positions were nieve. it did not stop with foreign policy eaither. the same thing happend on the economy, taxes, spending, earmarks and energy. obama won? I think not.
your one point where you say obama won was his position on the war. where he said that he was against the war. the only problem with that is that he was speaking as a member of the illinoise state senate not the US Senate as he implies.
so what, your local politition monday morning quarterbacks an issue. he had no responsibility to make the decision to go war. his comments could have gotten him elected to the us Senate, but is that enough to say that he should be president only if you take the whole package higher taxes and spending. Obama is not presidenial material.
No winner until... | 9:41 a.m. Sept. 28, 2008
November.
It is laughable | 9:44 a.m. Sept. 28, 2008
Obama gets street cred for making tough foreign policy decisions? Obama
didn't have to make a choice when the war in Iraq started because he
wasn't in the Senate. Monday morning quarterbacking at its best. McCain
has never claimed to be a great in debates. Obama's political career has
been built around them. When voters are so uninformed that it takes a debate to
help them make their choice...heaven help the USA. That type of voter is
probably the same one that watches American Idol and agonizes over who sang
their song the best. Suggest to some Americans...take some time and study the
Pres. candidates then you will realize watching a debate to determine your
candidate is the daftest thing one could ever do.
the moral candidate | 9:46 a.m. Sept. 28, 2008
McCain is the moral answer? Are you serious? America needs a gambler, a man who
divorced his first wife to marry a rich woman, yes, McCain the moral choice. Of
course the immoral Obama has had one wife and she is a stay at home mom (despite
popular pressure to be a professional). Obama likes mormons and is respectful
of their religion (the same can't be said about McCain) and Obama's
position on abortion is he doesn't like them but its and individual choice.
I don't think electing Obama is going to make al Queda regroup. Last I
heard, they were regrouping in Pakistan and Obama wants to shut them down. I
think Mr Morals is a little mixed up. Republican does not always equal moral.
Sometimes you have to look beyond the party and focus on the person. Clearly,
Obama is the choice for someone who cares about individual values.
Instereo | 9:53 a.m. Sept. 28, 2008
I can't believe how people are going to vote this year. Someone says
"McCain won because Obama stutters" meaning that obvioulsy
they'll vote for McCain. Another says he didn't watch the debate
(Hear, See, Say no evil) because he didn't want to see Obama's face,
meaning he'll vote for McCain. Without ever listening to Obama or reading
the platforms of either party, they are going to vote for McCain because of one
issue, abortion.
I'm going to say the canidates aren't scary in this election. It's the people voting that are.
I'm going to say the canidates aren't scary in this election. It's the people voting that are.
3:36 | 9:54 a.m. Sept. 28, 2008
Have you ever listened to Bush talk? ... Or watched McCain's winces? ...
It's what they say, not how they say it.
Win a debate? | 10:01 a.m. Sept. 28, 2008
How does one actually WIN a debate? Is there some kind of point system used to
allocate points to the individuals based on their answers? Is there a public
flogging for the person who can't answer a question correctly? Is there a
boxing match at the end to determine which candidate actually won? I am very
much curious to know how a "winner" of a debate is designated as such.
Rickster | 10:04 a.m. Sept. 28, 2008
Awesomeron, it's so unfortunate for our society that you and your ilk
believe that a candidate's stand on abortion is the ultimate deciding
issue.
With so many other problems in the world, including war, terrorism, financial ruin, poverty, etc, good Christians ought to take a more reasoned and holistic approach. What would Jesus do?
With so many other problems in the world, including war, terrorism, financial ruin, poverty, etc, good Christians ought to take a more reasoned and holistic approach. What would Jesus do?
fed up #2 | 10:05 a.m. Sept. 28, 2008
What determines a winner in a debate? If it is ego then Obama won. I think Obama needs to spend the next four years in the White House but only as an interen to McCain. Perhaps a little wisdom and intellect will rub off on him. He may even learn how to quit studdering but then he only does that when he can't respond withoutsomeoneelses'tottering.
Ad Hominem Attacks | 10:06 a.m. Sept. 28, 2008
You attack Obama's "stuttering"? Whatever. Stick to the
issues.
And your stance on the abortion issue doesn't become more convincing when you randomly capitalize words. What's up with that?
And your stance on the abortion issue doesn't become more convincing when you randomly capitalize words. What's up with that?
Neutral | 10:29 a.m. Sept. 28, 2008
I went into the debate with open eyes leaning a little towards McCain. I have
voted for the individual not the party for 27 years. I came out the debate in a
dead heat and still undecided. Obama won the debate by a frogs hair. No help to
me either way.
Re: awesomeron | 10:39 a.m. Sept. 28, 2008
57 million people watched the debate on Friday night. I assume that they'd
disagree with you saying that it didn't matter. As far as abortion goes, I
assume you're a strong proponent of comprehensive sex ed. and increased
assistance to poor and/or unwed mothers. You know, things that actually lead to
fewer abortions.
And if you don't like looking at Obama, you might want to consider moving into a cave after November 4th.
And if you don't like looking at Obama, you might want to consider moving into a cave after November 4th.
Kenny Rogers | 11:09 a.m. Sept. 28, 2008
Yes, war is a horrific thing. But avoiding it at all costs is even worse.
Let's keep in mind, it was them, not us, who attacked on 9/11.
Radical Islam (which includes the leadership of Iran and others) and avowed Communists (N. Korea for one) can only be reasoned with so far. And that's not very far.
Just remember the words from that famous song, "Sometimes you have to fight when you're a man."
Radical Islam (which includes the leadership of Iran and others) and avowed Communists (N. Korea for one) can only be reasoned with so far. And that's not very far.
Just remember the words from that famous song, "Sometimes you have to fight when you're a man."
Obama Doesn't Stutter | 11:11 a.m. Sept. 28, 2008
He is merely carefully choosing his words so as to give a proper answer, but
when he speaks at least it makes sense. What about the Bush-Wacker people talk
about someone who goes and a and a and then nothing intelligent comes from his
hole. Get over it. Do you like the position our country is in now after 8 years
of a republican administration? Be truthful now. Whats the national debt now?
Hows the economy? Hows our relations the rest of the world? Why are we fighting
for justice alone? Answer up.
Obamacon LOST BIG TIME | 11:19 a.m. Sept. 28, 2008
Delving deeper into Senator Obama's personality and also acknowledging the
challenges, the following are found: lacks discernment regarding the character
of others; could possibly be easily walked on; doesn't place an emphasis
(more than average or even average) on ideals; lacks strength in abstract and
theoretical thought; somewhat of an opportunist; tendency to rationalize
feelings; at times, faulty reasoning (but not an excessive concern); skilled at
rationalizing his mistakes; fails to fully, sincerely, accept responsibility for
errors; evasive and too indirect; self-deceit is higher than average--readily
believes only what he wants to believe and accepts half-truths, from himself and
others; lacks genuine sincerity to some degree; in response to spontaneous
questions asked of him, he frequently lacks straightforward communication and
will instead offer jumbled responses, for example, despite his otherwise
apparent compelling talent for communication; somewhat self-destructive; and
overall he projects a stronger, more potent image than he actually possesses.
Vote for McCain and Sarah in 2008 - we the people demand change in Washington, and now we are gonna get it with these two, Obamacon LOST, "BIGTIME"!. Plus 85% of the Country knew it before these debate's got started. We are onder and know better to.
Vote for McCain and Sarah in 2008 - we the people demand change in Washington, and now we are gonna get it with these two, Obamacon LOST, "BIGTIME"!. Plus 85% of the Country knew it before these debate's got started. We are onder and know better to.
The MAC is BACK | 11:30 a.m. Sept. 28, 2008
Senator McCain's answers were clear, direct, and heartfelt. Barack Obama,
by contrast, repeatedly evaded questions and directly contradicted previous
statements that he has made. One of the most telling aspects of the debate was
how often Senator Obama agreed with John McCain. On major point after major
point, Barack Obama said that he agreed with John McCain. Senator Obama even
agreed with John McCain's call for reforming and eliminating earmarks,
despite the fact that Obama has requested $ 932 million in earmarks during the
past three years. It was one of the most substantive debates in recent
presidential campaign history and John McCain won it. The Arizona senator was
cool, informed and forceful in Friday's first presidential debate of the
general election campaign. He repeatedly put Barack Obama on the defensive
throughout the 90 minutes session. Obama did little to ease voter concerns that
he's experienced enough to handle foreign and defense policy. That was his
number one task Friday night and he failed. John McCain never looked more
presidential.
Different view with Rick | 11:29 a.m. Sept. 28, 2008
Jesus would protect our personal freedoms by allowing us to make a choice
between right and wrong, Choose between protecting those unborn who don't
have the ability to protect their own life.
I hear how unfortunate it is that abortion could be a persons deciding factor on who he or she votes for. Why are moral choices not important to some?
Our nation has continued to turn away from moral issues, and where are we today?
Do you believe that we are a nation under god and that by serving him and obeying his rules we will be protected and prosper? If you don't then we are not on common ground and you will continue to think that I am stupid, and I will continue to believe that you are blind.
I hear how unfortunate it is that abortion could be a persons deciding factor on who he or she votes for. Why are moral choices not important to some?
Our nation has continued to turn away from moral issues, and where are we today?
Do you believe that we are a nation under god and that by serving him and obeying his rules we will be protected and prosper? If you don't then we are not on common ground and you will continue to think that I am stupid, and I will continue to believe that you are blind.
To all Republicans | 11:33 a.m. Sept. 28, 2008
Im sick of Utah (I know some of you are going to write...go to wherever
place)People here in Utah are so BLIND!!! LDS guys here are Republicans just
because that was the only think they have learned and they think LDS Church goes
with them, Pres. Faust wasnt Republican. You are like the horses around the
temple square, you walk around the block following the next horse for all your
life time, period!
McCain is not th solution! We the people! DONT need to go to war agaisnt other countries just because they dont think like Us. We DONT need to private a "personal and private" decision like the Abortion law to be part of questioning when you have been rape or your helth is in dange. We DONT need a politician that think that all that America does is correct,I think is more "brave" to say "we were wrong" and work for do thinks better than never say something and have all the worlds hate because of your wrong choices!
Lets vote Republican my horses!!!
McCain is not th solution! We the people! DONT need to go to war agaisnt other countries just because they dont think like Us. We DONT need to private a "personal and private" decision like the Abortion law to be part of questioning when you have been rape or your helth is in dange. We DONT need a politician that think that all that America does is correct,I think is more "brave" to say "we were wrong" and work for do thinks better than never say something and have all the worlds hate because of your wrong choices!
Lets vote Republican my horses!!!
Re: To all Republicans | 12:09 p.m. Sept. 28, 2008
Your post sounds like you are very driven by your emotions. This is one
difference between a conservative thinker and a liberal thinker.
It has been said that younger people are more emotional liberal thinkers. As person grows and has a family, he or she becomes a deeper thinker and less emotional with their thought process. I'm not saying this is the case 100% of the time, but I think it is true that you get more conservative the longer you live in this world.
You may begin to think differently, If you live long enough.
It has been said that younger people are more emotional liberal thinkers. As person grows and has a family, he or she becomes a deeper thinker and less emotional with their thought process. I'm not saying this is the case 100% of the time, but I think it is true that you get more conservative the longer you live in this world.
You may begin to think differently, If you live long enough.
Observer | 12:08 p.m. Sept. 28, 2008
80% of voters have already decided who they'll vote for. The debate did
nothing to change that. It's the 20% of undecideds/independents who really
matter when determining who won this debate. In all polls, according to those
undecideds/independents, Obama won the debate. This was the debate that everyone
expected McCain to be at his strongest. He's going to be at a huge
disadvantage in the debate on the economy. But that still won't be the key
debate. The key debate will be Biden/Palin. When 50 million Americans see how
unqualified Palin is, the election will be as good as over. Don't be
surprised if the McCain campaign tries to cancel the vp debate using a Palin
family emergency as the reason.
Anonymous | 12:27 p.m. Sept. 28, 2008
Disagree that Obama was being rude or condescending to McCain. In fact, it was
McCain who repeatedly looked down on Obama making blanket statements like,
"you just don't understand, you don't get it. Also, for those of
you who still don't get it, "they" who attacked us on 9/11 had
absolutely no link to Iraq. Bush and Cheney have both said so. There were no
WMDS and there was no link between al Qaeda and Iraq. Wow, seriously, do some
people still think this way?
Re:Re:To all Republicans | 12:36 p.m. Sept. 28, 2008
Im so sorry to say that I have family and old enough to think a little bit
simple than the "horses" here in Utah, you should go out of of Utah
and even US to learn something else and see the real world, because beeing in
this "Bubble" is not going to help you.
And whats the matter for all of you "convervative people" (with doble moral") to find people that doesnt think like you are "liberals" or "independent" or "democrats"...please...stop walking around the block!
The longer you live in this world. more ashamed I am of the politicians using the "conservative" and "freedom" words to justify going against the real law and Constitution or you havent notice the real issues in this life after so many years!
You will see that all that have been talk about our country and Constitution is going to get real, it si going to fall! bacause of wars, changes to the constitution and republicans being in power, But I'll be there to be part woth those who will stand for it in the future...
And whats the matter for all of you "convervative people" (with doble moral") to find people that doesnt think like you are "liberals" or "independent" or "democrats"...please...stop walking around the block!
The longer you live in this world. more ashamed I am of the politicians using the "conservative" and "freedom" words to justify going against the real law and Constitution or you havent notice the real issues in this life after so many years!
You will see that all that have been talk about our country and Constitution is going to get real, it si going to fall! bacause of wars, changes to the constitution and republicans being in power, But I'll be there to be part woth those who will stand for it in the future...
re: Obama doesn't stutter | 12:51 p.m. Sept. 28, 2008
What? Are you serious? It is painful to listen to him. I'd rather have him
go silent while he's looking for a word than to have all the uh's and
er's. It would also be nice if Obama could be direct with an answer to a
question.
CITIZEN | 1:23 p.m. Sept. 28, 2008
In my opnion it doesn't matter who wins or who loses the election,the joke
is on us the taxpayers.we are the losers!!
More than one war...... | 1:26 p.m. Sept. 28, 2008
is being fought. The War on Terror has different opinions on how it should be
fought, but both candidates think it should be (whether the front is in
Pakistan, Iraq, or Iran). The other war is home based. Abortion is one front,
gay marriage another. To most, they believe we can fix ourselves by treating
the war on terror differently. To us "horses", it's a matter of
fixing the moral issues at home which in turn will fix issues abroad.
Personally, I think McCain and Obama are inept. The only thing I like about any
of them is the focus on family Palin seems to have. But fact is, us
"horses" have half a chance to win the moral war at home while we have
no chance to win that war with the Democratic Party.
To all of you!!! | 1:29 p.m. Sept. 28, 2008
It is interesting to me that a lot of time is spent criticizing the candidates
short commings and calling them names, instead on looking into how they view and
approach issues. To all of you that are so focus on the candidates short
commings I will tell you that at least the candidates have the courage to stand
in front of people and expose themselves to make a difference. I can bet that
most of you that critizice do not even vote. So, understand that there is no
perfect candidate; the best we can do is to research the issues and make the
best possible choice on election date regardless of what political party the
candidate belongs to.
slraptor | 2:23 p.m. Sept. 28, 2008
OBAMA WON...
Why McCain won the debate | 2:27 p.m. Sept. 28, 2008
Republicans have been accused of abandoning the poor. It's the other way
around. They never vote for us.
Votes are like trees, if you are trying to build a forest. If you have more trees than you have forests, then at that point the pollsters will probably say you will win.
McCain won!.
Votes are like trees, if you are trying to build a forest. If you have more trees than you have forests, then at that point the pollsters will probably say you will win.
McCain won!.
Re: Re: To All Republicans | 2:38 p.m. Sept. 28, 2008
I was 18 when I voted for George H.W. Bush in my first election back in 1992.
I'm now 34 with a family of my own and I'm proud to be supporting
Obama. If anything, I find myself growing more liberal as I grow older and
experience more of the world.
Thanks for playing, though...
Thanks for playing, though...
Kevin In the Terrace | 2:44 p.m. Sept. 28, 2008
I would say John MaCain was supposed to win this debate hands down. Although I
thought he did have a slight edge, I feel that Obama held his own. This issue
was infact the only issue that John MaCain is expected to win. Considering that
John MaCain was supposed to thrash Obama on foriegn policy but didn't and
that this is Obamas weakest area, I don't think MaCain did enough to win
the election from this debate.
John | 3:07 p.m. Sept. 28, 2008
If you are a die-hard Republican and are that way only because of abortion, then
shame on you. The Republicans have controlled the executive and the legislative
for most of the past 20 years. And they did nothing to change abortion. So
anything they say regarding pro-life is lip service. Obama or McCain, niether
with do anything to change Roe v Wade. So why not cast your vote based on an
issue they can actually change?
Wait until we debate the economy. McCain already admitted the economy is not his strength. My 401(k) can't handle anymore Republican administration move.
Wait until we debate the economy. McCain already admitted the economy is not his strength. My 401(k) can't handle anymore Republican administration move.
To Re to all republicans | 3:13 p.m. Sept. 28, 2008
I am the reverse of your statement: I actually have become more liberal the
longer I live. The more I see injustice in the world, the more I want to fix
it. Bush's tax cuts to the rich have only made the wealth distribution in
this country worse. Also, the longer I live, the more I meet diverse peopld
that make the open-mindedness of the Democrats more appealing. The more I meet
minorities and gay people, the more I believe they deserve rights. The
Republicans would try to take those away.
The longer I live, the more compassion I have. I don't see how you could become more conservative over time. Unless you are just becoming more afraid. Republicans use fear to fuel the fire of their entire platform.
The longer I live, the more compassion I have. I don't see how you could become more conservative over time. Unless you are just becoming more afraid. Republicans use fear to fuel the fire of their entire platform.
Obama is a Liberal | 3:24 p.m. Sept. 28, 2008
Obama does not represent the middle class---he is the most liberal Senator in
the country. He represents the far left of America----which is very far from the
values of the middle class.
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