Comments about ‘Coalition wants polygamy 'Safety Net' for Texas’

The term "safety net" is subtly pejorative, as it implies the presence of something dangerous. I don't think the FLDS or any polygamous community is well-served using it. Such propaganda only serves to further malign a community which on the face of it, has less crime than society at large.

"People were negatively affected".........duh.

I have a suggestion for those people that don't want to "negatively affect" anything.
Let the FLDS live in peace and quit trying to force them to change their religious beliefs.
It might not be a bad idea to take away the Texas tank and give their children back to them either.
Quit meddling in the right of citizens to worship their God and quit trying to raise other peoples children.

While Texas did select a different approach to the problem of abuse within the FLDS, in the long-run, it may not be the wrong approach.

In Utah and Arizona, the statutory rape victims are for the most part afraid to speak up and get help. The safety net only helps the brave women willing to make waves.

In Texas, there are no FLDS girls currently being raped. That is an accomplishment that Utah and Arizona can not claim for themselves. Yet, some children were adversely affected by being taken into custody when they were not at the time at risk of abuse.

Basically, it seems that Texas is now on the right track, ensuring that CPS is heavily involved with the FLDS and preventing abuse, while Utah and Arizona have this ineffective safety net, which most victims fall through.

JOEY: Don't underestimate "saftey net" just because it may have a "pejorative" name. It has been extremely useful to the polygamists in helping the government understand them better and work with them and their individual needs. In essence, it has probably saved the polygamists from raids similar to what they have already experienced.

GAL50: I am a little concerned that you don't think "saftey net" is doing its job and has let victims "fall through". It has opened doors between the government and the polygamists to provide opportunities for any abused to get help. This has been confusing to people because they don't see swarms of women and children running. Maybe this is just that abuse isn't as rampent as people would like to beleive ;). To take the rights of 400+ people (parents and children) away over a prank call, is never the answer, it was not what government was set up todo; but to protect those rights. Safety net will be a way to help the victims and preserve the rights of people by aiding the government to see who the victims are and how they need helped.

It doesn't matter whether you think the ends justified the means. The raid on YFZ was an illegal, unconstitutional, invasion of privacy. End of discussion.

It would be good for Texas to learn from Arizona and Utah. Polygamists see the outside world as "evil," so just how much more are their teachings bolstered and strengthened in the minds of the youngsters who suffer from lying caseworkers who promise them safety, which in their minds means being with mommy, when the caseworker all the time is going about state authorized skulduggery to get those kids ripped from their mothers and put in a completely foreign environment. The attitude that these people would have towards Texas and CPS in general after this is not much worse than an attitude some clan member might feel towards Genghis Khan coming in an carrying everyone away. I understand that CPS thinks that all of their beliefs are "culturally ingrained," and can be changed, but this is a mistake.

These people will not budge from their belief any more than Nero could get the Christians to budge when being eaten by lions or dying in the Colosseum by the hand of gladiators. Or even how Antiochus Epiphanies could not get the Jews to budge from their religious beliefs during the Maccabean period. So what to do?
I think that Texas CPS needs to deal with the things that put kids in danger of anything that they are not willing and happy to participate in, and this is what a safety net would do, give them a 'safe place' to get help without fearing a typical Texan "cowboy up" hitler-esque blitzkrieg invasion on their friends and family. You know, that is just "wisdom." I hope Texas learns from this mistake.

No matter how anyone looks at this "Safety net" it only amounts to a third party standing between parents and their children.
CPS is in the way of parental rights now......to be replaced by some other unwanted meddler amounts to the same thing.
We have carried this "save the children" thing too far in this country. Getting the government out of the bedroom was a great step in the freedom for families. Now we need to get the government out of the house and the church. Just don't replace government meddlers with private meddlers.

The only thing that surprises me is that the safety net actually exists since virtually everyone opposes it, attacking it from both sides.
I think it is odd that people are willing to create safety nets and work with polygamists but when it comes to undocumented immigrants it is all about through them out and send them to concentration camps.
I think we need to love all of God's children and not just the ones who were born in the same nation as us.

"Safety Net" fancy name for getting into someone else's business. Society forces these groups to isolate themselves. And it appears that when we do this they become laws unto them-selfs. There does need to be a place that a girl or women can go to for help when they are abused. Not sure componds is the answer. Not sure home invasions is either. But we force them to live in these closed communities because we do not agree with their life-style. The answer is to accept their lifestyle as being "different" and bring them into mainstream society. Were normal channels of help are ready available.

Jack from OK, these groups live in isolation because they are blatantly breaking the law by engaging in polygamy.

Yes they are breaking the law. I law put into effect by the US government just to stop the LDS from practicing what they believe. It was NOT against the law prior to that. Religous bigotry at any level is wrong.

Okay First off, the FLDS abused their RIGHT to live in peace seeing as their leader WARREN JEFFS is in prison. You loose your right of isolation when you do not follow the laws of the United States, which these people have done. If you do not like the laws of the land then go live somewhere else.