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Hubbub over tent-city idea irritates Chaffetz
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Arizona puts their criminals in tent cities. Send those whinners down to Sheriff Joe Arpaio, he'll set them straight.
This is in no way even remotely similar to the Japanese internment camps. The Japanese were victims. They were American citizens horribly treated by their government.
The illegals are not citizens of the US and if they want to be treated as such they need to go where ever it is that they are citizens.
Chaffetz is right.
America will find out what a mistake they have caused
with violance to others
America is now a hateful place to live
You do not need to be Mexican
By the way, you are not racist if you feel this way. Mexico does nothing to discourage them and they treat anyone as a visitor with an infraction horribly.
It is time to make a stand!
You can call it a bagel, Chaffetz, It's still a prison.
Jason's Democrat opponent, during this last few weeks weakened his stand on immigration. Did he have to do it to get the support of Honda?
Look at the differences:
"3. Bring undocumented immigrants out of the shadows and put those who are in good standing on a pathway to citizenship so that they can contribute to society by paying their fair share of taxes."
It said before a fine would be required. And it said English. It also said get in line. Why has he softened this?
"Bring undocumented immigrants out of the shadows and permit those who are in good standing to pay a fine, learn English, and get in line to become legal US citizens. "
I am voting for Jason Chaffetz. Let's fix Legal Immigration.
It may have received a loud applause from the delegates, but he's never going to be taken seriously on the national stage.
He's not even elected yet and he's already sunk his credibility with his colleagues.
Instead of accusations, why don't you contact BOTH sides and get all the details before writing the article? I'd like to know the details of the Chaffetz plan on illegal immigration instead of someone else's interpretation of his plan.
You guys will get what you deserve when he's elected. He will turn more moderates into democrats.
I heard a wise man say that we should be judged on how we treat the most vulnerable people in society. In which case Jason C is a horrible person.
It is fun to watch the We-Love-Chaffetz crowd.
If Jason Chaffetz was caught robbing a bank his supporters would tell us Chaffetz was only saving us from evil bankers or something.
The issue here is one of integrity. During the convention in front of radical right-wing, anti-Hispanic types Chaffetz gives us the whole tents in the desert with razor wire. It played really well for the rabid right.
He gets into a primary and suddenly he stops talking about his concentration camps and then decided to give all illegal aliens visas. Primary voters are far more moderate.
Wins the primary and he is back to his concentration camps.
When called on his concentration camps his first answer was to deny it. Then shifted to saying he was only restating the Governors Association position, and he added the whole razor wire idea.
Now the truth comes out that the Governors Association never called for tents he is taking his 5th position on this that he is just trying to be effecient.
Which Chaffetz should we believe?
And moderators, I know that you are essentially part of the Chaffetz campaign. Allow some free speech. This is an example.
Go to jason for congress, his website. click on issues, and then, Click here for Jason's Comprehensive Immigration Policy
His first is Legal Immigration..
"There are millions of people from around the world who seek to legally become a citizen of the United States of America. Unfortunately, the system is failing. Last year the Wall Street Journal stated the current green-card backlog includes applicants who face a 22-year wait time. This doesn�t work for anybody. We need to implement the leadership necessary to fix this problem and appropriate the money needed to thoroughly process applicants in a timely manner. Until legal immigration works, we will continue to have major problems."
I disagree that "illegal immigration qualifies as a secret combination".
Most of those that come here, legally or not, are trying to come for a better life. Most that come here illegally are good people that have made a bad choice.
If they realized that they could come here quicker legally or if they thought that coming here illegally would get them no where, we wouldn't have the problem we have.
If you're willing to give those same benefits to the immigrants you put in tent cities, then I might think it's a good idea.
I think they should be treated like the criminals they are. I am tired of them coming illegally. We are talking about criminals here...not children. I hate the tagging, the gangs, and having to have things in Spanish...THIS IS AMERICA!
By the way, you are not racist if you feel this way. Mexico does nothing to discourage them and they treat anyone as a visitor with an infraction horribly.
It is time to make a stand!
You are not racist? Only illegal immigrants tag and are in gangs? Is learning a second language "too hard"? Sorry, most countries require their students to know at least two languages to graduate high school. Maybe we should grow up and stop crying and do something constructive. Point your fingers and remember there are three pointing right back at you.
I think of this because I was casually discussing polyagamy the other day, and I found my Southern Utahan audience distinctly uncomfortable. Realizing that I'd stumbled upon a subject of heightened cultural sensitivity for them, I quickly changed the subject.
My point being is that if Jason Chaffetz can't understand why the image of people rounded up and stuck in camps in the Utah desert upsets people who actually WERE rounded up and stuck in camps in the Utah desert, then he isn't very bright. And he's surely no gentleman, because a gentleman would first apologize for the discomfort he created before launching into a defense of his political policy, or suggesting his detractors aren't entitled to their very understandable cultural sensitivity on this issue.
Then again, very few gentleman are politicians, and vice-versa.
if those who believe me want to watch the "tents in the desert" from the GOP convention, it is on youtube. There is a photo/link on his website. It obviously insn't something he is trying to hide. The speech is why I voted for him.
I see nothing wrong with placing criminal, fugitive illegal aliens in tent cities while they wait deportation. There is limited jail space available to ICE agents and many times local police are told to turn illegal aliens loose after they're arrested, even for serious crimes. If there was a large tent-city available, the police could just drop the illegals off there.
There is nothing racist about controlling our borders and removing hard-core criminals from our country. There's usually a reason why some of these folks want to avoid the background screening that comes with the legal immigration process.
This is a cost-effective way for Spencer's campaign to attack Chaffetz rather than spend money which they can't raise.
Jason will be elected in November and all this silliness will end for another two years.
Everyone I know has documents that can prove they are legal. Is it a crime for ICE to be a bit more suspcicious if you can't speak English or speak it with a thick accent? God forbid our law enforcement officers use their brains when fighting crime. We should make it illegal for policemen to use their brains. After all, our politicians and mortgage lenders do just fine without using theirs.
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Missing here is the real issue: while Japanese-Americans CITIZENS had no choice during WW2 but the detention camps, these ILLEGAL NON-CITIZENS have a certain path to avoid their (very temporary) detention in tent cities: GO HOME TO WHERE THEY BELONG!
Simple solution. I don't want them to be in tent cities: not for a month, not for a day, not for an hour. And I have some very simple advice for how they can avoid that result: pack up and go home.
But none of you folks are interested in truth or solutions, only in finding one-liners to attack Jason Chaffetz, a person you presume to know through DNEws and SLTrib headlines. It epitomizes what is wrong with politics and media today.
Here's my question - when we "return" the Mexican portion of the illegals to their home after they cross the border illegally, why just drop them off on the other side of the border? Personally, I think they all could use a nice, soothing flight to Cancun (look it up on a map). Ah, Cancun - just about as far as you can get from the U.S. border. Sure, it could cause them a bit of inconvenience to get back to their hometowns, but cry me a river - now you're as far away as can be from my country's borders. I'm sure it would reduce the number who cross again and again.
Over 90% of illegal immigrants are non-white. To the extent that they are white
Open borders kooks know this to be true. They call people who say they're opposed to illegal immigration "racists" even when we never mention anything about race. Why do you assume we're racists? Because you know very well that MOST illegal aren't white.
There are supposedly about 70,000 Irishmen in he USA illegally. I'm for sending them packing, too. You're the racist for assuming I'm not. If every last one of the 15 million or so illegal aliens were white I'd still want to send them home. I'm sorry I don't have a chance to prove that, but I can't change the facts on the ground.
This is too much fun to watch.
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Enter the Japanese American Citizens League, who on a tip by a Latino organization complains, comparing it to Americans of Japanese decent being detained during WWII in camps. It's not the same thing. And the fact is, the majority of illegals in this country are from Mexico. Studies have been done that prove this. Please do some searching on your choice of search engine and you will find them. We share borders.
Mexico's President complaining openly about us returning his people, when his country has a much worse record in how they treat illegals, and the several very vocal Latino organizations that try to paint everyone racist that tries to help stop the immigration problem, tends to bring Mexico to the front of any discussion.