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Yeah, the banning of the alcopops really worked well did't it! Is beer at Albertsons next?
"distributors of so-called alcopops say the state's onerous regulations and labeling requirements make it too much of a bother to market them in Utah"
I would use stronger language if I could, but I'll limit myself to this: to the devil with tourists! I'm not opposed to tourism, but liquor law reform needs to be for Utah drinkers first and foremost. I just really don't want to hear the word "tourist" again in this debate. Do what's right for Utahns or don't do it at all!
That is all (for now).
All the chatter seems to be about making liquor easier to get. The choice should be left with the individual - we are all responsible for out choices.
Does anyone know about any push to increase accountability for poor choices?
We need to loosen up our liquor laws. They don't make sense. But with the dangers of driving impaired we to to update our laws here. We need to have stiff fines, loss of license and jail time the first time you are caught. You are able to drink responsible without hassle but your are held responsible for your actions the first time.
OK, How can we really believe that the LDS church doesn't have any influence on the state legislature? I think they all have hidden nose rings.
Adults who knowingly give alcohol to a minor should be punished with the same penalties as adults who give a gun to a minor. This should be included in any liquor law changes.
Geeeeeeez! They ID for beer why not keep the alcopops in local stores and ID for them too!
Utah legislatures, this is not rocket science. A first grader can figure this type of problem out!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree, uncannygunman... Utah lawmakers need to do right by the Utah citizens, not by the Church. Unfortunately, in this state the legislature and church are one and the same.
I want to know why the law makers are even wondering what the church has to say.... It is not their business. The whole liquor store by the state thing just promotes a hording mentality. So if I want to have liquor on hand I need to buy a bunch in advance because I know I can only get at a certain place. So we buy more and since I have it now .... I might as well drink more.
Having lived in Utah for over 5 years as a non-Mormon, I soon learned who really runs the State. Who should be surprised?
If the Mormon Church says do it, the State does. So if the LDS Church loosens up on liquor laws, it'll happen, but not until then.
Now ask why Romney lost.
Well, now we know don't we. The LDS Church Leaders speak and the Utah Legislature acts. Who really makes the laws here?
As for those touting 'saftey issues' about drunken drivers. Lets also include Drivers that are impaired by their sweet little Texting devices. I've even seen a guy texting while riding a motorcycle. Now we're really talking dangerous.
this wasn't a "new" statement. all the church did was to clarify something that we already knew. there wasn't anything out of the ordinary in the statement.
Those that are complaining that the Church is saying, let people choose, but let's control over-consumption are not rational. Let's look at apples and apples, the Catholic church which I was a member of at one time teaches not to do anything to your body that hurts it! Over-consumption hurts it, so the fact that the Catholic church and the LDS church concurs on this subject, maybe some of you will reconsider. Oh, by the way if you are a member of a Baptist church you will listen to your leaders and their admonition will influence you, if you are Catholic what the Pope and the Vatican says will influence you unless your name is Kennedy or Pelosi of course.
I have to say the present system does not work. I've lived in Utah and I visit Utah. I don't frequent bars in my home state and don't intend to frequent bars in Utah. But I do like having a drink while waiting for a table in a nice restaurant. And I've been known to go to happy hour (at a restaurant) and have drinks and appetizers with friends. I've gone to Apllebee's and Outback in Utah when there's a 30 minute wait and the bar area (all these chains have the same layout) has been converted to dinner seating and they wouldn't sell you a beer or glass f wine anyway.
Amen, brother.
BEER ME!!!!
The reality is that you live in Utah. Here is a news flash for ya, most of Utahns are LDS. Therefore a majority of the politians elected are LDS. Nothing wrong with that. The majority has spoken. Tough luck that your opinion is not in line with the majority. Either try and change things through political action or move to where you are not so oppressed.
If you dont like it you can vote with your feet. Leave
I am from another State but I read this site almost daily. I can't understand why people are so upset or even suprised that the Mormon Church is so influencial in the State of Utah especially Salt Lake. You have to be living under a rock not to know that Utah was settled by Mormons - and is predominately Mormon because of that. If people don't like it - why do they live there. They have 49 other states to choose from.
SINCE WHEN DO OUR LEGISLATORS NEED THE MORMON CHURCH'S APPROVAL TO PASS THE LIQUOR LAW CHANGES THE HUNTSMAN ADMINISTRATION IS PROPOSING?
We now have unmitigated PROOF! The Mormon Church does indeed meddle in Utah's secular politics and secular issues.
And they say Utah is not a Theocratic State!
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