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How many Mormons have served in Democratic administrations in the past 60 years?
Grover- Why does Obama give such a small portion of his income to charity if he cares so much about the poor? Why do Democrats, who support higher taxes on the rich, not give extra to the IRS voluntarily? It is allowed. Why is the reddest state, Utah, also the highest in charitable givings, and why do heavily blue states fall lower on the list? Not a single blue state in the top 10 when adjusted for percentage of income. These liberals care so much about the poor, but they want others to help them, they don't want to do it themselves.
Forced charity through wealth redistribution is communism. Worked for Russia.
Here's another nice mess you've got us into.
"Grover- Why does Obama give such a small portion of his income to charity if he cares so much about the poor?"
If B. Hussein Osama is so magnanimous, why does he have a half brother reportedly living in squalor somewhere?
Obama- Starts attending racist, radical church. Fundraises with terrorist, William Ayers. Community organizer with smaller budget than Palin had as Mayor. State Senator who voted "present" most of the time, except when he spoke against the rights of babies who survived abortion attempts. US Senator- has done very little, never voted against his party on anything. Crosses the aisle only when most other Democrats do the same. Opposed the Surge in Iraq, and refuses to admit he was wrong about that. Has not been the primary sponsor of any piece of significant legislation (how is that leading?). Run for President.
Palin- Mayor of Wasilla, with more employees and larger budget than Obama's community organization. Commercial fishing in blue collar sector, where most Americans work. Governor of a State with a high level of natural resources and a budget larger than Obama has ever tackled. Opposed own party on many issues in Alaska.
In an attempt to show he had more experience, Obama actually compared managing his campaign to her mayoral job, forgetting that she's now a Governor.
1996 - 2000
Obama: Still a Senior Lecturer in Constitutional Law and elected to the Illinois Senate. Sponsored more than 800 bills.
Palin: elected as mayor. Reduced property taxes but increased sales taxes. Hired a DC lobbyist to bring $27 million in earmarks to the city. Took town from zero debt but left it with over $22 million in debt (in the mold of Bush that took surplusses and turned them into record deficits) and built a $15 million hockey center.
2001 - 2004
Obama: Became chairman of the Illinois Senate's Health and Human Services Committee. In 2004 was elected to the US Senate, receiving over 3.5 million votes (got that, more than 5x the people of the entire state of Alaska).
Palin: Director of Ted (Bridge to nowhere sponsor)Stevens' 527 group. Lost in run for LtGov in Republican primary, appointed to the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission.
Bush solved the problem of lying under oath. Ignore that power of congress to question your fellow outlaws.
Wrz I think he was referring to Bush's alcoholism and past cocaine use.
Osama: Community projects are now mostly empty and boarded up. Parents never married. Illegitimate birth. Hard drug user. As for Osama, great Muslim name. So is Hussein. As is Obama. Osama bin Laden would be/is proud. In fact al Qaeda terrorists have voiced support. So has Hamas. As has Lebanon's Hezbollah. Alotta strong support around the world.
Palin: Elected Governor of Alaska. Bulldog with lipstick. Ace cards, trump everything Osama has.
And @GWB: Please read where I said "Republicans impeached Bill Clinton for telling a lie about an extra-marital affair." And by the way, it was not to Congress.
That lie was Perjury by investigators under oath. And if Repubs think Perjury is such a big deal, why did Bush let Scooter Libby off the hook for Perjury?
Why did Bill Clinton have his law license revoked?
I don't think they do that for only having an affair. You probably have to have committed a serious ethics violation or a felony.
Would I go to Palin's church? No.
Would you go to Obama's?
Would you associate with a known bomber of the Pentagon who recently stated the fact that he wish he had been even more violent in his attacks?
Would the Media ignore it if McCain closely associated, fundraised, and worked on committees with an abortion clinic bomber, even if no one was killed in those attacks?
She'll get chewed up and spit out in a heartbeat.
Then she'll be contacted by a special interest group or 12, be on their payroll, and she'll be set for life.
Ever wonder why NOBODY is making any campaign promises to outlaw every penny from lobbyists or special interests?
Wake up stupid America!
The vote in Congress (not just Republicans) to impeach Bill Clinton passed. But the Senate chickened out when it came to voting to remove him from office.
If you don't believe me, go to wikipedia. Their exact words are... "Former President of the United States Bill Clinton was impeached by the House of Representatives on December 19, 1998... The charges, perjury, obstruction of justice and abuse of power".
I threw in the last part in just because another common Liberal Lie is that he was impeached for his sexual indisgretions. He was not charge with that. The official charges were, "perjury, obstruction of justice and abuse of power".
You brought it up. Don't blame me for shedding some light on the whole painfull memory.
Another interesting factoid... President Nixon was never impeached (contrary to what some Democrats will tell you). He resigned before they could impeach him.
Clinton stuck with his lies to the bitter end. That's why he got impeached and why he is the only American President to be impeached since Andrew johnson in 1868.
1. I thought Obama promised he was going to "Change everything" so there won't be any party partisan bickering in Washington or the internet anymore.
2. If Obama doesn't deliver on promise #1, we can always act like you lefties do today and keep saying, "He's not our President, We didn't vote for him, We're not responsible for anything he does, It's all your fault"!
What goes around comes around fool.
A mild diversion away from the Conservative Republican Cheney/Bush monstrosity of an administration that is ruining our country and making war-profiteers filthy rich.
"to 'to GWB' you forgot that Palin attends, and listens to sermons that are anti-semetic."
She's just listening to readings of the Christian Bible... which says "Jews will/has become a "hiss and a by-word."
"Wake up stupid America!"
If you're part of America... would that make you stupid?
There has always been a monumental difference between America per se and the current group of people who currently are running the show.
Those who blindly continue to support the current administration's failing policies that are running this great country into the ground while their leaders get filthy rich are the stupid Americans.
Problem is, he's usually ranting about someone else doing that (some guy named Sean O'Hannity). From my reading Anonymous does more dividing than I've seen from about anyone posting on these pages.
Just an observation.
"There has always been a monumental difference between America per se and the current group of people who currently are running the show."
Can't disagree with that. Only about half of Americans voted for Bush. That phenomenon is true with almost all elections. What Bush's opponents refused to do is to put their differences behind them and unite behind a duly elected president... hence we remained a divided country... even now.
"Those who blindly continue to support the current administration's failing policies that are running this great country into the ground while their leaders get filthy rich are the stupid Americans."
Their leaders...? What leaders are getting filthy rich? Bush? He only makes about $400,000 per. That's alotta dough, but not filthy rich. If you think it is, complain to your congressperson.
Now is the time The People will elect the next president.
Some people will believe any spun lie.
The popular vote went to Gore.
The crooks and liars in charge stepped in the rest is history.
We tried to warn you about these guys but you refused to listen.
Remember, if AL Gore had won his own state, Tennessee, he would have won. How do you lose your home state. Even Mondale won his home state, even if it was the only state he won.
"PJ above has already forgotten that the right-wing stacked Supreme Court appointed the clowns we have in office today."
The court was just fulfilling its Constitutional duties. Would you have it another way?
Besides, the main clowns we have in office today are Peloci and Reid. Oh, and the Chappaquiddick swimmer.
"Sorry 5:58. The popular vote went to Gore."
Popular votes count for (gasp) nothing in a presidential election! Check your copy of the Constitution, if you have one. And have your friend, Al Gore, do the same.
The selection is certainly a huge disappointment--particularly to those who imagine that the GOP was not hopelessly compromised from the get-go this election season.
Considering the severity of the party's self-inflicted damage, however, Palin realistically can be regarded as yet one more catastrophic error to add to the pile.
In the end, it won't make much difference either way--except that if, after the election, party leaders imagine that Palin is somehow entirely to blame, they'll miss a good opportunity to address some of the actual--and very real--problems that the Republican Party has visited upon itself.
Look at this remark:
"Besides, the main clowns we have in office today are Peloci and Reid. Oh, and the Chappaquiddick swimmer."
Peloci is Pelosi. This gives a impression of someone rejecting intellectualism.
In Reid's book, there is a chapter now a LDS bishop forever changed his life. This is followed by his testimony the the LDS Church is true.
Look how Mormons treat Reid? They are people who support other church members? I won't want you kind of support!
Does this commenter realize Senator Hatch wrote a song for Teddy Kennedy?
Community Organizer
His campaign claims two achievements: 1) Implemented program to clean up broken glass in playgrounds 2) Organized protest of Cook County Council meeting
Illinois State Senate
Didn't sponsor a single significant piece of legislation. Cosponsored lots of other people's bills. Avoided voting either yes or no 130 times by voting present.
U.S. Senate
Started running for President immediately. Has sponsored lots of bills. NOT ONE HAS PASSED. Cosponsored lots of other people's bills. Claims most significant measures are 2007 ethics reform (originated in the U.S. House; Obama made several amendments) and nuclear non-proliferation bill (sponsored by Sen.Lugar of Indiana). Chair of Senate Foreign Relations European Affairs Subcommittee. Hasn't bothered to hold even one meeting.
Obama -- despite his education --- has barely left a fingerprint in his time in public service. That is why both Joe Biden and HIllary Clinton called him unqualified to be President.
Sara Palin -- A couple folks above cited her previous support of earmarks. They ignore the fact that she reversed her course as Governor and become one of the fiercest critics of such practices -- and she has been consistent since.
Hearing before the Senate Foreign Relations European Affairs Subcommittee on April 8, 2008 to review ambassadorships and US permanent representative to NATO council. Hearing held at 419 Dirksen Senate Office Building at 9:30 A.M. EST.
Senator Obama presiding.
Yep. You are right. Held one to review administration appointments. The reason it didn't show up was because it didn't have anything to do with legislation or policy -- that is the real work of a committee.
The point still stands --- for two full years he ignored his only chairmanship because he was too busy running for President.
A couple of things to remember, not that Republicans will care, (I sincerely hope I'm wrong and they do care) When Obama graduated for Harvard, president of the Law Review, he was well sought out for jobs from Wall Street to law offices. He gave up big and Instead he chose to give up big money and go be a community organizer in order to help people. Sarah's job after college was to give the sports on a small Alaska TV station.
I do question what kind of a mother Palin wil be to that cute Down Syndrome child of hers. When she's traveling the world, doing what a VP does, what kind of "personal" touch will that child get? Shouldn't her first and formost important job be to to help this child? I question her conservitive values that place politics before her handicaped child.
NB, have you heard about the anti-semetic teachings of her church? Google it and you will find a sermon while she was in attendance where the Pastor proclaimed that the attacks by Palestinians on Jews was "judgement" for not believing in the one true savior. I wonder how Joe Lieberman feels about that..."
They're not "anti-semetic" teachings; have you ever read the Bible? Old Testament much? Recall how many times the people of Israel were judged for disobeying Almighty God. It was in this context he spoke, not in some sort of 'anti-Jew' way. Sheesh.
Perjury is not "a personal matter". He lied.
To the contrary; I would imagine that she will be a very visible vp, as she is being groomed for 2012...our first woman POTUS. Here here! The American Maggie Thatcher.
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Personally I don't see why you liberal hacks keep bringing more and more attention to Palin. She is the one ray of light the Republicans have at this point in the election, and you keep bringing her front and center? You could have a hay-day with McCain, his policies, his speach last night... and all you can do is fixate on Palin????