Is McCain smarter then a 5th gra | 12:25 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008
"Clinton reminded the audience that in 1992 Republicans said he was too inexperienced to be president. He said they were wrong then, and they are wrong about Obama now."

Clinton is right but he failed to mention that he and Obama both have more experience then John McCain when it comes to foreign policy, domestic issues and now it is time for people to learn about the real McCain, a man who lacks the experience to be President, whose knowledge is limited, who still thinks Czechoslovakia is a country and who believes that Iraq borders Pakistan. When confronted about the reality of Iran's government he didn't know that President Ahmadinejad is merely a figurehead and that the real leader of Iran is the Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamene�i. Even worst is his inability to know the difference between a Sunni and a Shiite.

Can we trust John McCain to be ready to lead on day one when he is so stupid that he still thinks a country exists that doesn't. It's time to put John McCain "Are you Smarter then a 5th Grader" so we can get a good laugh when a 5th grader kicks his senile behind.
GK from England | 1:15 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008
Well Biden WOULD hail Obama as a great leader wouldn't he. Then again, Biden does have a checkered history of lies and deceit. So can we trust his judgement about Obama? NO!!! As for Obama, is past and even the present day reveals inexperience, weaknessess and serious personal flaws, which he tries to avoid discussing when questioned. He is further left in his politics than any sensible American would want to go. For the sake of your great country, don't go there America.
We need change | 1:51 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008
The bottom line is that the country is headed in the wrong direction, and we need to make a change.

Obama is smart, articulate, and self-made by hard work, not by inheritance. That makes Obama the opposite of George Bush.

I've had it with more of the same government that cares more about the Iraqi economy than the American family, for example.

I'm voting Obama-Biden. If they get only one vote in SE Idaho, that would be me. I Americans vote hope and fear.
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Oh that we were all... | 3:42 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008
as perfect, upright and unerring as GK from England claims to be!

Who is he to sit on his perch an ocean away and cast dispersions on either McCain or Obama?

In this election an honest assessment would find shortcomings, weaknesses and character flaws in each candidate.

So?

What I want to know is how each candidate fights the personal battles and overcome adversity.

And...

... how that candidate will take on the real issues of the day including:

- The reemergence of the Taliban in Afghanistan
- Our country's dependence on oil
- The torture of enemy combatants
- The execution of the war on terror
- Competent government
- The restructuring of our fiscal infrastructure
- The economy and number of foreclosures
- The escalating price of food, clothing and energy

I say we spend our time and energy debating these issues and leave the character judgment and assignation and to history and eternity.

awesomeron | 4:22 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008
It depends on what you think of as a "wise leader who will bring change" The Nomination of The Obamanation, has made for a real bad day for America. America has done nothing to either, protect her Borders, secure her Ports. Most of all America has done nothing to protect the children yet to be born.
I do not see that there is going to be any change except more entitlement programs and National (get in a long line) Health Care. It will make Maricopa County Hospital seem fast moving.
There are some aspect of some of what has been said that I would like to observe if I was forced to. With or with out the Obamanation, I am not leaving America. 1. "my husband will force you to be involved" 2. paraphrase " You will work, you will not be allowed to remain as you are." I would like to see him pull that off. I would like to see just what it takes to get someone away from their 32" HDTV Set and outside to take part in the demonstrations. Or will I be forced to hire the 400 + pound women, now collecting Welfare. Think Not!!!
From Indiana | 5:13 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008
Thank you Deseret News for the coverage of this great event. We need a balanced reporting.
To GK | 5:25 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008
I trust Biden and Obama one heck of a lot more than I trust McCain, who has proved many times in his life that he puts his own wants and "needs" over honor and responsibility and duty (which, if they -- honor and responsibility and duty -- get in the way of what McCain wants, get dumped). And then there are McCain's "senior moments" . . .
My daughter told me | 5:33 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008
that she was planning to vote for Obama, because he has apparently never taken money from lobbyist. I asked her how many laws has Obama written up that were passed? She is now voting for McCain (the lesser of two evils)Cindy McCain should be the one running here.
Debt | 6:08 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008
Mr. Bidens campaigns have always had the backing of all the major credit card companies from Delaware-Companies that charge 18-36% percent shark loans that have nearly bankrupted this country.
Now they tell us only the rich are going to pay more taxes- Yes Myrtle, 'Rich' are considered small business owners bringing in $250,000 per year with a $25,000 dollar profit. And guess who will pay for the Universal World Health Care?
Biden has alway wanted 'no bankruptcies' allowed on credit card debt.
Welcome to all the future 'CHANGE' in America!
Contrast | 6:27 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008
The choice is clear, four more years or a change. I want a change!
Anonymous | 6:56 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008

The country is in the worst shape I have ever seen it under BushCo.

Solution?

MORE of BushCo?

What are you, nuts?
Re: Contrast | 7:01 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008
Read Debt. That is all.
csiny | 7:27 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008
I cant believe that anyone _ANYONE_ believes the crap bama is spewing. I kept waiting for him to take his clothes off and reveal he's really Superman- or he thinks he is.
Anyone who believes he will "SAVE" this country really needs to get back to reality.
I for one do not want gov. sactioned health care, higher taxes, cut n run, and I definatley do not want anyone in office who thinks so little of our military.
Truth is were in bad times and its not any one presidents fault and it will take a heck of a long time to fix, It will take all of us working together to make a difference.
change | 7:35 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008
you want sanctioned healt care? and higher taxes and a heck of a lot of broken promises?
Vote Bama! he'll promise the moon to get in office and then he'll take you and the rest of us to a hot place none of us want to be.
Diamondladi | 8:01 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008
The reality is our country isn't as "bad off" as polititians and the media like to portray. We haven't had another major terrorist attack since 9/11 (thanks to terrorists, and info they're getting off the battle field)
The economy tends to be cyclical.. but the less they mess with it and the more of our own money we can keep the better the economy rebounds in a Free Market.
You say you want change..who says it will be change for the better? Obama's politics aren't just liberal they are socialist. I don't think we need that kind of change
silencedogood | 8:05 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008
After watching President Clinton last night I have been asking myself how can anyone trust a political party who had an impeached President speak at their national convention. Has the Democratic Party forgotten that President Clinton committed perjury while under investigation by a Grand Jury in a sexual harassment case. Bottom line is that he lied and now we are suppose to trust his words that Obama is ready to lead this country, and just several months ago both he and his wife were saying that Obama lacked the experience to lead.
Grimble | 8:10 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008
"My daughter told me":

Great. As soon as she finds about Obama spearheading congressional ethics reform, securing loose nukes, cleaning up the shameful situation at Walter Reed, and working for veterans' benefits, she realize that Obama has actually done far more in the last term than McCain has, and her vote will swing back.

You should at least ask her the same question: what has McCain done? Besides passing McCain/Feingold campaign finance laws that he has since tried his best to break.
ScottAZ | 8:15 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008
Some want to blame Bush for all our troubles, some want to blame Clinton. Truth is that our country has not adapted to the changes that have been taken place in China, Russia, Iran, N. korea ect.. I dislike listening to politicians because they promise the world and never deliver on it. I am on the fence as who to vote for. Democrats want people to believe that McCain is Bush. He's not. Republicans want people to believe Obama is the devil. He's not. Both care deeply about this country and I think those who insult, degrade, and are downright nasty about either one need to be more objective and look at each candidate's qualifications and look closely at the issues. I am still on the fence as to who to vote for.
Craig Coleman | 8:17 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008
It is interesting to me how much energy and emotion is spent on worrying who the president will be, yet it is the election over which each individual has the least amount of influence. The reality is that the president can do very little without the complicity of Congress. He cannot take us to war unless the Congress gives him money to wage it. He cannot deliver universal health care unless the Congress gives him the money to do it. President Bush took us to war but the Congress gave him the money to do it, including many democrats. I say, if you want to exert energy on political matters, stop worrying about the presidency and start focusing on who represents you in Congress.
M. Allred | 8:21 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008
The poor girl at Subway told me, after I paid for my sandwhich, "Change, sir." I am soooo sick of hearing "change," I could gag. I told her to keep it. My point, I don't give a rat's patooey who is prez, the elected candidate will take to the oval office their own agenda, administration, goals, theology and ideas. Obama or McCain, each will bring "change," whatever that may be. Gag, I said it again.

At these conventions, the professional politician huck out the same same rhetoric -- every four years.

To go from the Olympics to the DNC and RNC is a stark contrat; real champions vs. champions-in-their-own-mind champions.

I agree with an ealier poster: Cindy McCain for prez. Yup.
Obama/Biden 08 | 8:25 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008
You can complain and moan all you want, but even the most conservative republicans from Utah need to admit that this is going to happen.

People are just too disillusioned with Bush (the worst President in history) and McCain is simply too close to him to let his "maverick" wings fly.

McCain is not presidential : he's an old war hero that deserves to be venerated and put in a museum. If he chooses Romney, who has shown time and again he has no soul, he will seal his own fate.

Both Obama and Biden are in touch with the average American, they are both vibrant leaders, and they have a vision for foreign policy, the economy, among other things, and the skills and experience to see it through.

It's a new day, Utah: get with the program! Stop listening to Sean Hannity--he kisses your butt when he's in town, but you know he goes back to New York and makes fun of Utah.

GO OBAMA GO!


Where's the change?? | 8:27 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008
I'm all for change in Washington. Heaven knows we need it. But where's the change in choosing one of the most entrenched, career politicians (30 years) in the that political quagmire? Sounds like business as usual to me.
Only if | 8:31 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008
If we can put a man on moon such as the Apollo Series of Moon shots then why can't we put the Apollo aka Obama there too?
RP | 8:37 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008
csiny, and change..please have some idea of the facts before you launch into your Hannityraids. 95% of Americans will see no change to their taxes or see a tax decrease under Obama's plan. His health care plan does NOT Mandate coverage.
Debt please be totally forthcoming, yes Obama's plan will probably increase taxes on those making over $250,00, but crying for the small business owner who only clears $25,000 a year from his $250,000, please, they clear $25,000 after the business bought them a truck, a car, their house, business dinners on the town, and probably a vacation home on the golf course in St. George. I'm not saying it's wrong just be honest.
Maggie | 8:44 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008
Barack Obama has inherent decency and wisdom that has not been a part of the American political landscape for a very long time. I now feel inspired and hopeful about the future of our country and the well-being of its citizens - all of them. Obama all the way!
Mom in MO | 8:45 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008
Obama wants to kill babies who survive abortion because it was the mother's intent that the child not live. Now, THAT'S change, alright. Obama doesn't know when life begins. He only knows when it ends. See the effects of voting for change...read the history of Cuba before and after 1958.
Ronald Cheney | 8:48 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008
John McCain can't remember how many houses he owns but he has an explosive temper which makes him very presidential because he has the Alzheimers of Reagan and the temper of Cheney.
change is good | 8:59 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008
I look at the situation this way:

The group we have now had their chance.
Not everyone is as pleased with their results as they seem to be. In fact the overall feeling seems to be overwhelming concern for the future.

Let another group have at it.

Anonymous | 9:13 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008
Joe Biden is tough, everybody loves him, he's been around, he tells it like it is, and being Roman Catholic, knows something about compassion, interdependence, and focusing on taking care of your fellow man.
Lew Jepposn | 9:21 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008
Well, this is perfectly clear - there will be no fix of the health care mess if McCain is elected. Whatever else one feels, one must face this grim fact.
silencedogood | 9:39 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008
Re Obama/Biden 08

Bush the worst President in history? I am not sure you remember Presidents like Jimmy Carter, Warren G. Harding, Richard Nixon, Andrew Johnson, James Buchanan.

As for Obama and Biden being in touch with the common man, I think not. Both of these guys are elitist and care only for their friends from Hollywood and other big money supporters. Neither one of these guys are right for the country as they care only for their liberal agenda-read Obama's position statements.

Unfortunately in the period of history we are in we don't have a lot of choices this election cycle. We need statesmen/stateswomen in both parties not people who want power and fame. We need leaders that will take a stand on American core values like freedom and justice for all, then work to protect them and stand by them no matter the personal cost. Oh I guess I just described President Bush.
Mike | 9:40 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008
After watching the Democratic Convention last night, I think one thing is clear. This time the Democrats will have the high ground on "Family Values" issues, not withstanding the abortion question. I hope Utahns will take the time to investigate the personal history of the candidates on this issue. If they don't, I will be very amused at the hippocracy of Utah voters as they vote predominately for man with a questionable history in this respect.
Re: Maggie | 9:48 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008
My aren't you gullible.
Anonymous | 9:51 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008
What, exactly, has McCain made of 30 years in the Senate except a public relations image? What legislation has he authored? Oh, yes, the McCain-Feingold campaign reform act that he regularly violates but, aside from that, what has he done to earn his Senate salary?

(sound of crickets chirping)

Anyone?
Wrong direction? | 9:55 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008

I keep hearing the Nobama sycophants, and Bush hater�s state, "the country is heading in the wrong direction."

Really? Aren't we already on the path to killing babies? On the path to more government? More taxes? More illegal immigrants? More government handouts? On the path to surrender? More perversion (same sex marriage)?

So they must mean we're not heading down that path fast enough.

On second thought, we ARE on the wrong path.
wrz | 9:54 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008
Those people who are looking for "change" are playing Russian Roulette... with live ammo in their six-shooter.

How can we be sure that B. Hussein Osama as president will not appoint his friends like William Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, Louis Farrahkan, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Father Pfleger, or Tony Rezko to his cabinet?
To Change is Good | 10:02 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008
"The group we have now had their chance."

If you mean the do-nothing congress, you're right. They all need to leave.

We should push for term limits.

But let's face it, Nobama is a demo. And if he is elected (won't happen), he'll be a demo, and give you:

Higher taxes
Higher gas prices
A tanked economy
A wide, open border
More dead babies
More scandal
A twisted foreign policy
More socialism

No thanks.
Utah Republican | 10:06 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008
Joe Biden is a ticket to a hot place. If you watched him on committees interviewing Supreme Court Justice Nominees you would vote for Mickey Mouse rather than the Obama/Biden ticket. Obama has no successes other than the media hyping his black credentials and education. He has DONE NOTHING and will DO NOTHING but be a talking head for Pelosi and the democratic congress. Kiss your safe sweet life goodbye!
To Lew Jepposn | 10:11 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008

The answer to the 'health care mess' is competition, not government oversight.

Please, name ONE thing that the government hasn't screwed up? One thing the government is efficient at?

You want to hand over the healthcare industry to the government? You're nuts!
Biden Flip-flops | 10:13 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008
The only thing that Washington politicians can change is how much money they take out of your wallet...and they don't even need your permission! I just think it's funny how Biden preached how inexperienced Obama was during the primaries, but now that he's got the no.2 ticket, he's praising Obama for his experience...ugh! Doesn't anyone else see how absolutely ridiculous these politicians are?
Change | 10:25 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008
I'm still waiting for the change from "The first hundred days." Clinton made the statement last night that Republicans had control and thats when things got bad. Wait I thought the Dem. had controlled the House and Senate for nearly the last year.......
Abraham Kleiman | 10:28 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008
Barack Obama will be the president of USA.
Prior to 1958 Cuba was a sanctuary for USA gangsters, and a pseudo colony of USA.
After 1958 Cuba has been the only country in Central America which has a revolutionary process in motion, decreaced child mortality, increase literarcy, graduated medical doctor and other professionals to help African and South American countries. Of course, Cuba has experiece a different ideology and socialisttype of government.
Cuba and Chile are the albatros hanging from USA neck. Cuba although on its knees, because the USA economic blockade, is a model of society for South American countries.
Yes, there has been executions, yes the island architecture is in ruins, yes criminals and pampemproletarians has been sent to USA, yes there is shortage of food, but those are the challanges that a country which wants to be free of USA depency has to pay. Yes, capitalism works.
Mr. Barack Obama will be the president of USA.
Long live Fidel Castro.
thinkstraight | 10:34 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008
silencedogood..President Bush a leader who stands for "freedom and justice for ALL" are you joking he suspended Habius Corpus for American Citizens.
Marilyn Rupper | 10:40 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008
I can hardly wait to see Obama tonight! Like Hillary herself said, The sea's will part,Heaven will open up,& everything will be wonderful.

Now let me get this staight,the Dems are against identification in order to vote, but, you must show a driver's license or other valid I.D. to be able to enter the Barackopolis tonight to see Obama's speech. Typical.
GeeBee | 11:00 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008
Why do the whiners about "pro-choice" seem to forget that war kills people who already HAVE lives and jobs and kids?
frustrated | 11:06 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008
Lew Jeppson, thank gawd you are going to lose in the fall but just so you know, the object of government services is not efficency but effectivness. Efficency can help but it's not the intent.

NOBODY,NOBODY and let me say again NOBODY has proposed turning over the health care industry to government. The discussion is about access to health care.
Jpjazz | 11:12 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008
I have enjoyed the convention, not that I am particully tied to the party. I say give BO a chance, it's more than GW received from the opposition.
Lew Jeppson | 11:18 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008
Re: Things government has not screwed up.

Social Security and medicare which have been Godsends to millions, the national forest system, the national parks system, air traffic control, mass transit systems, Department of Agriculture food inspections, the EPA for starters. Yes, there are examples of government failure, just as there are examples of market failure.
change is good (and necessary) | 11:24 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008
Through preemptive war (America's first, and hopefully last) brought on by bogus intelligence, this administration has finagled a situation of unlmited executive power.
To suggest, as the poster at 10:02 is trying to hoodwink us with, that it is all Congress' fault is absurd.
GeeBee | 11:29 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008
@ WRZ-
We already tried fearmongering the last 2 elections. The American public is past it now. Why not try talking up your candidate, instead of slinging fear about the opponent? Oh, that's right, there's not much to say about McCain...POW camps aren't presidential training camps, and a mistress with beer money isn't "family values".

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