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Published: Thursday, Aug. 28 2008 12:14 a.m. MDT

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John

I'm glad that someone in the legislature is standing up to big businesses and their pro-illegal immigration stance. Our legislators need to pass powerful new legislation that goes after not only the criminal illegal alien, but also those employers that negligently employ them. If illegals couldn't get jobs, we would quickly see them going back to their home countries.

Re: illegal

Could it be that we believe (more than most) in honoring and sustaining the law of the land? ILLEGAL aliens are breaking our laws! Why not let drug sellers or even those who break the speed limit off? Maybe we should, maybe we should not welcome them here, but they are breaking our laws!If anyone goes to Mexico and breaks their laws, what happens? We all know the answer don't we?

Anonymous

ALL THESE PEOPLE THAT HAVE POSTED NEGATIVE COMMENTS ARE IDIOTS HOW CAN YOU SAY YOU DO NOT WANT IMMIGRANTS I YOUR COUNTRY WHEN ALL HISPANICS WANT TO DO IS SURVIVE, LIVE, AND PROVIDE FOR THEIR FAMILIES NO ONE REALLY OBVIOUSLY FULLY UNDERSTANDS THE MEXICAN GOVERNMENT AND HOW POOR THEY TREAT THEIR PEOPLE FOR MINIMUM WAGES AMERICAN THAT ARE SITTING ON THEIR HIGH HORSE HAVE NOT BEEN IN A SITUATION WHERE YOU WORK FOR 80 HOURS A WEEK AND BARELY MAKE MINIMUM WAGE WHICH IS A DOLLAR TO TWO DOLLARS AN HOUR. IMAGINE SENDING YOUR CHILDREN TO SCHOOLS WHERE THEY ARE NOT FULLY EDUCATED WHERE IT IS SCARY TO WALK INTO A HOSPITAL AND WONDER IF YOU WILL COME OUT ALIVE OR WORSE. PEOPLE WHO MAKE COMMENTS ABOUT NOT ALLOWING IMMIGRANTS ARE VERY NARROW MINDED WE ARE A FREE COUNTRY AND THE MORE LAWS WE LET THE GOVERNMENT PUT OUT THE MORE WE ARE BECOMING LESS FREE TO THE POINT OF SOCIALISM. DONT LET THEM FOOL YOU IT IS NOT JUST A PLOY TO STOP IMMIGRATION IT IS MORE LAWS TO KEEP AMERICANS AT BAY TO HAVE LESS RIGHTS WE SHOUDL ALL BE FREE TO CHOOSE WHAT IS RIGHT NOT WRONG

You Cool Down...

To: Cool Down People, These misguided folks that tell you illegals pay taxes are not telling the truth. An illegal has to do one of 2 things, 1. Get paid under the table, "No Taxes" or 2. Steal someone's identity, exposing them to prosecution for not claiming enough income, being denied benefits because some illegal has their identity or some other problem. The illegals who do use a stolen identity claim so many exemptions that they have no taxes with-held, they quit the job before someone catches up with them and can create accounts in the tens of thousands for the unsuspecting person. Now tell me how this benefits us?

Larry M

When the pioneers went to Utah, they were technically "illegals".

The Romneys and Eyrings etc. have settled in Mexico, then returned for generations.

Many of your ancestors came sponsored to Utah for economic reasons disguised as converts, then given land and work. Nowadays they would be just as illegal.

Belonging to the LDS faith should not depend on having a piece of paper or not...these borders were not here in Book of Mormon times and then this land was taken illegally.

If MORONI were alive, he would be an "illegal".

MissouriJoe

Every undocumented person I've known has been hard-working. I haven't asked them about their tax situation, because people don't usually ask each other how many exemptions they claim. Undocumented friends of my family: husband works long hours (seems like 12 hours a day 6 days a week) at a dry cleaner, the wife works 3 part time jobs in housekeeping at a local motel and two restaurants. How is this not contributing?

To Anonymous 8:08 PM

So it is okay with you that someone who has an education, speaks only english be denied a job so that someone who is uneducated and speaks no enlish at all gets the job that the english speaking person is more qualified for? I have been denied a job for this reason, I have also been denied housing because I was born in this country, and I have also been denied medical insurance(medicaid) because of this.

I was on the bus coming home from Ogden and a hispanic woman was excited that she and her son were hired for jobs where they would be paid under the table because of their legal status. She did speak both english and spanish. I would even get a job at McD's but I would probably be not hired - I don't speak spanish.

I live near a swapmeet that was robbed a few months ago - no one called the cops because of the number of illegals that worked there.

I live in West Valley and feel that I live in a totally different country.

Undocumented?

When did we start calling illegal aliens "undocumented" workers?

Illegals don't pay taxes?

Re: You Cool Down

Since 1996, the IRS has provided tax ID numbers to enable illegal immigrants who don't have Social Security numbers to pay taxes. Nearly 8 million of these IDs have been issued--that's two thirds of the country's 12 million illegal immigrants. They pay taxes using these ID numbers because it helps them to get loans and enroll their children in school, and they hope someday it will help them become legal citizens.

The majority (50-60%) of illegal immigrants have taxes withheld from their paychecks. They pay $9 billion into Social Security every year that they will never get back. And off course, all illegal immigrants pay state sales tax and property tax (through rent), and bear some of the impact of their employers' corporate taxes.

The same year the IRS started issuing tax ID numbers, the welfare reform act disqualified illegals from all means-tested government programs except emergency medical care and K-12 education. So the majority of illegal immigrants are paying the same taxes as you and I, but are denied the benefits of programs like food stamps, housing assistance, Medicaid, and Medicare-funded hospitalization.

B. hernandez

To anonymous: First let me say that I live in So. Calif., and you haven't a clue what is coming your way. Due to illegal aliens and thier many, many anchor babies, we know first hand what it's like for our children to get a horrible education. Habla Espanol? 50% of illegals children drop out! And to: Illegals don't pay taxes? 12 million illegals? Get real! If you add the illegals and their Anchors, we have at least that many in
California alone! Once an illegal baby is popped out, they are entitled to free housing, medical, food (wic)(food stamps), free education, etc...! So in your opinion, The money they contribute with a tax I.D. #, earning minimum wage, is equal to more than all of the above freebies.

Let's apply

our favorite solution to this problem. We decided Iraq needed to be a democracy, right? To "protect Our interests." Well, Mexico needs to be cleaned up and stabilized because of gross mismanagement and corruption, too. Let's give them some incentive. Cut off trade, shut down the borders, crack down on the illegals, and tell them that we can resume relations as soon as they clean up their house. Wait aminute, do we actually get most of our imported oil from Mexico and Canada? Huh? Something is weird, here.....

Really, people, the second commentator to this story has it right on the money and the discussion could have ended there.

Brutally decapitate any business caught knowingly employing illegal workers. Dry up all of the job opportunities, and the problem will rectify itself. A new form of state ID cards would be an excellent idea. Don't expect the Feds to be able to effectively run such a program. Let the states come up with solutions and enforce them.

Deana

Anyone who breaks USA laws are considered CRIMINALS! If you come to the USA and break our laws to get here than you are a CRIMINAL. You are not a alien you are a CRIMINAL.

concern about identity theft

I am a naturalized American citizen. I entered this country legally, did everything within the law, and everybody else should do the same. Some people say that if all the illegal immigrants are deported, the USA economy would collapse, and I say, there are many people all over the world who have been waiting for years and who have been doing everything by the book to come here legally, please, deport those who break the law and bring the ones waiting ASAP!!!
Illegal immigrants are stealing their own children, yours and possibly my identity!! that alone is a big felony that cost a lot of tears!! illegals are moving to Utah and taken the few jobs available, open business using someone elses identities, work as loan officers and borrow a lot of money, buy mansions, and move around, and the ones left with the bills are the identity theft victims. Don't blame ICE for separation of families, illegal immigrants are responsible for choices made when they decided to either enter illegally or stay illegally in the USA. We don't have medical insurance. My child was denied CHIPS, because many children of illegal immigrants are using the program!!

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