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I don't care who you vote for | 12:35 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008

Frank Millward,

"I'm not thrilled with either major presidential nominee."

No one asked you if you are thrilled with the two major presidential nominees. We know why you aren't thrilled with either of them. They aren't clones of you! For you the only person worthy of your vote is the one who will lick your boots and tell you how right you are.

"But after months of listening to the candidates, I have decided on the lesser of the two evils."

You decided on the one you want to vote for based on your opinion so give it a rest. I would no more vote for them then I would vote for you. To say you are voting for the lessor of two evils is your way of getting attention from other voters who don't care about your opinion or vote.

"There is nothing more dangerous than a smooth-talking salesman with an inferior product."

Are you talking about John McCain who has lied his way through this campaign, who has told us that he has foreign policy experience but who demonstrates a dangerous lack of knowledge of substantive issues. So again, give it a rest because no one cares.

Gus Talwynd | 1:59 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008

So you're not thrilled with either candidate. Big deal! It's just your opinion based on limited information. Similarly, you may not be thrilled by BYU's starting lineup for the coming football season. Or you may not be thrilled by having to go to work tomorrow.

Not being thrilled about anything in particular is an individual preference that really has no bearing on anyone else who doesn't know you and really doesn't care about your opinion one way or the other.

Obviously, some contributors here are not thrilled by this letter. Perhaps you could improve your message by citing valid specifics rather than superficial comments on unsubstantive concerns.

Perhaps you would might focus on the process of selecting candidates rather than criticize after the fact with remarks about not being "thrilled".

Indiana | 3:39 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008

To I don't care who you vote for:

Why so caustic? Why so hate-filled? Why so nasty? Such a good example of leftiness... epitome actually... nasty!

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To I don't care who you vote for | 5:39 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008

WOW are you good. You read all of that into one short letter! How did you figure that he didn't like either candidate because they weren't clones of him? That is an amazing piece of mind (and heart) reading. I'm glad we have folks like you around to tell us what we should be thinking and feeling.

re: Indiana | 6:46 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008

Leftiness a good example of nasty?

As if the rightiness is a shining example of civility, compassion, peace and brotherhood ...

You've got to be joking.

Lesser of two evils? | 6:57 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008

Yes -- that's what I'll be doing. I'm voting for Obama/Biden because they, unlike McCain, won't put the country down the toilet any further than the current administration has already done. McCain (95% agreement with George Walker Bush) would continue the downward trend the country has been following these last few years.

Eddie Keen | 7:23 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008

Is 'leftiness' one of those words like 'truthiness' that Stephen Colbert coined?
Anyway, I'm confident, if not thrilled, that voting for Obama is what I want to do. I think the gravitas of the situation should probably invoke pensive thought, not thrills.

I think | 7:59 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008

Obama is scary and Indiana is right!

The third time is not the charm | 8:28 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008

This was in the speech at the Democratic convention last night. Sorry, Republicans, but the "third time is not the charm". We will not allow you to be in office again when things have gotten so bad. You had your chance and now it's the Democrat's turn.
I liked the "Clinton" years much better than these last four years. He made a moral mistake, but I guess both the Democrats and the Republican's now have nothing to talk about there. They both need to watch that. But the philosophy of the Dem's are the only thing that can get us out of some of our problems.

Ya think? | 8:55 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008

Obama is scary? Wow you are close minded.

Re: I think | 9:23 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008

You and others like you need to stop saying "Obama is scary". I though we were a strong country, not a country of wimps!

Hey, Indiana! | 9:24 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008

You are a hypocrite! You call him "caustic, hate-filled and nasty". Then say it's because of his "leftiness". You sound like a very hateful, judgmental person yourself.

GWB | 10:16 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008

To "I Think"

Care to give some specifics of what is so scary about Obama?

Do you make more than $250,000 a year and scared that you will have to pay more in taxes? If you make less than that, your tax bill will go down.

Are you scared that he will change the open ended expenditure of $10 Billion a month in Iraq and withdraw on the 16 month timetable that the Iraqi Prime Minister supports?

Are you scared that some of the 45 million people who don't have insurance will stop driving your health care cost sup by getting services and not paying for them so they get passed to you?

Are you scared that by electing a black man that the US will be able to show the world that we have advanced to the point that skin color is no longer a determinant of a person's character?

Are you scared that electing Obama will show those n the lower economic ranks that they can study hard, earn a scholarship to college, perform well and achieve the American dream with hard work, you know - pull themselves up by the bootstraps?

I'm not scared, I have hope!

jackhp | 10:18 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008

Really? You won't vote for Obama because of Biden so you're settling on McCain, but only if he doesn't choose Huckabee. If he does choose Huckabee then your next choice would be Nader? Good heck that's dumb.

This guy has to be about the most uninformed voter ever. Anyone who listens to him for advice is even more clueless.

Oh Please | 10:21 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008

The Clinton years were the best in America's history. Peace & prosperity were real, not just empty promises. Put the Republicans in charge and everything, I mean everything, collapses.

Indiana is right | 10:30 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008

The truth is in the content of these blogs. Read them closely, and keep count: The majority of the nastiness and invective is coming from the left, although it does cut both ways. Unfortunately, civility and respect for others has become a thing of the past.

jackhp | 10:39 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008

Re: third time is not the charm,

Here's a better quote from a speech on Tuesday night:

"You know, it was once said of the first George Bush that he was born on third base and thought he'd hit a triple. Well, with the 22 million new jobs and the budget surplus Bill Clinton left behind, George W. Bush came into office on third base, and then he stole second."

Courtesy of Ohio Governor Ted Strickland.

steve | 10:40 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008

good for you Frank! I'm glad you think your vote counts. Don't sweat it too much though, because Obama is still going to win.

I think | 11:00 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008

To GWB et al:

yeah, his support of infanticide, gay marriage, socialism, terrorist friends, no leadership in his whole life from what I can tell except for being a community organizer, his apparent hatred of America etc.

there is probably more but for now, that's enough for me.

Agki | 11:19 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008

Indiana: "Why so caustic? Why so hate-filled? Why so nasty? Such a good example of leftiness... epitome actually... nasty!"

What was nasty about it?? The poster was not "hate-filled" but merely stated a viewpoint. He/she used no dirty words or even invectives. You really need to get back on your thorazine.

Anonymous | 11:35 a.m. Aug. 28, 2008

I see from the childish put-down posts, that the Rush Limbaugh Show is on the air and thrilling the Utah (Limbaugh's biggest)loyal nasty audience.

@Gus | 12:07 p.m. Aug. 28, 2008

So you did not like the writers comments and jumped on board with the first responder. You state that his opinions are only such and ask for substance. Your whole comment was just an opinion. Do you see the hypocrasy. And yes the first guy is bitter and nasty. Everyone is entitled to their opinion just as we are entitled to comment.

Whose nasty? | 12:18 p.m. Aug. 28, 2008

"former Sen. Bob Smith, a New Hampshire Republican who served with McCain on the Senate Armed Services Committee, as saying, "I have witnessed incidents where he has used profanity at colleagues and exploded at colleagues . . . He would disagree about something and then explode. It was incidents of irrational behavior. We've all had incidents where we have gotten angry, but I've never seen anyone act like that.""

This is from the conservative media.

Anonymous | 1:59 p.m. Aug. 28, 2008

Nasty is how the neocons got as far as they have.
Watch for even more in the upcoming convention.

Oh Please | 3:16 p.m. Aug. 28, 2008

Years ago there was a novel called NIGHT OF CAMP DAVID about a president who was a paranoid-schizophrenic. It was scary. It's even scarier now....

Enough Nasty | 3:20 p.m. Aug. 28, 2008

There's enough nasty-ness on both sides. Neither of you have a high horse to ride on this topic so drop it.

You sound like my kids after they get cranky, "Your nasty", "No, your nasty", "Well you are nastier", "Well you were nasty first"...

Baloney | 3:24 p.m. Aug. 28, 2008

I reject that these are two bad choices, they are both pretty good, not perfect, but pretty good.

Honesty | 9:49 p.m. Aug. 28, 2008

Republican and democrats are not the only two parties or the only two choices.

Ponder that in the voting booth, and vote Bob Barr.

And send a message to the two parties who think they are the only game in town.

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