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FLDS wife declines to answer questions at Texas hearing
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tigerlily | 9:18 a.m. Aug. 18, 2008
Why can't they leave these people alone?
anom | 10:37 a.m. Aug. 18, 2008
"Why can't they leave these people alone"? Because they are
breaking the law and being non protective of their children...
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re tigerlilly | 10:51 a.m. Aug. 18, 2008
i guess because we don't like child rape, child abuse, repression, and a
lack of any type of future for the children.
call us crazy.
why do you want them left alone? So more little girls can be forced into marriage and sex? Seems inappropriate to want that kind of thing to happen, but to each his own....
call us crazy.
why do you want them left alone? So more little girls can be forced into marriage and sex? Seems inappropriate to want that kind of thing to happen, but to each his own....
transplant | 11:04 a.m. Aug. 18, 2008
tigerlily:
Children are citizens. If parents can't or won't protect their human rights, the state has to. By law. By state law. By federal law. By international law. We are a nation which lives by law. Laws which we make.
Children are citizens. If parents can't or won't protect their human rights, the state has to. By law. By state law. By federal law. By international law. We are a nation which lives by law. Laws which we make.
FLDS losers | 11:11 a.m. Aug. 18, 2008
The Flds people need to be stopped. No more forced child rapes!!! Protect the
children from these old Flds geezers!
re: Gal50 | 11:15 a.m. Aug. 18, 2008
Actually Gal50, one of these families married their 12 year daughter to Warren
Jeffs and all of these families are refusing to protect the children from
suspected child abusers. The families involved in the this hearing are not
victims. They knew what could happen if they didn't comply and they still
chose not to.
Clarence | 11:35 a.m. Aug. 18, 2008
anom | 10:37 a.m. Aug. 18, 2008
"Why can't they leave these people alone"? Because they are breaking the law and being non protective of their children...
Yeah right. CPS raided a community under false pretense, invaded homes without a valid warrant, ransacked a house of worship, took 440 happy, welll adjusted children and threw them into concentration camps, interrogated them, tormented them, fiddlied around with their private parts, and finally ripped them sobbing from their mothers arms and sent them to the four corners of Texas to live with strangers.
Way to protect the kids, Texas.
"Why can't they leave these people alone"? Because they are breaking the law and being non protective of their children...
Yeah right. CPS raided a community under false pretense, invaded homes without a valid warrant, ransacked a house of worship, took 440 happy, welll adjusted children and threw them into concentration camps, interrogated them, tormented them, fiddlied around with their private parts, and finally ripped them sobbing from their mothers arms and sent them to the four corners of Texas to live with strangers.
Way to protect the kids, Texas.
nosugrof | 11:37 a.m. Aug. 18, 2008
Some people have forgotten how traumatic it was for the first time for these
children to be seperated from their families. Delivering these children into the
clutches of the CPS is not the answer to anything.
Gregory | 11:43 a.m. Aug. 18, 2008
Gal50 was sooooo happy when the 440 children were living in misery.
No amount of petty moralizing will hide the fact that she was firmly, unapologetically, on the side of evil, right up until SCOT released the kids back to their mothers, when she shut up and never mentioned the subject again.
Now she salivates at the prospect that at least eight of the little ones will soon be suffering again.
Gal50 absolutely reeks of evil. Makes my skin crawl.
No amount of petty moralizing will hide the fact that she was firmly, unapologetically, on the side of evil, right up until SCOT released the kids back to their mothers, when she shut up and never mentioned the subject again.
Now she salivates at the prospect that at least eight of the little ones will soon be suffering again.
Gal50 absolutely reeks of evil. Makes my skin crawl.
Anonymous | 11:48 a.m. Aug. 18, 2008
The names of the young girls that you know that are being raped and such you
should give your list to law enforcement I m sure you know their names after
making a charge like that
Winston | 11:51 a.m. Aug. 18, 2008
re tigerlilly | 10:51 a.m. Aug. 18, 2008
why do you want them left alone? So more little girls can be forced into marriage and sex? Seems inappropriate to want that kind of thing to happen, but to each his own....
CPS is no longer alleging any of what you mention above. They are no longer accusing mothers of forcing girls into anything. They are accusing them of NOT FORCING them to refrain from contact with their fathers.
Your combination of ignorance, bias, and straw man attacks seem to be very common in Texas. That is, no doubt, why the illegal raid happened in the first place, and why your tax dollars will soon be funding a new and improved YFZ ranch.
Cheers!
why do you want them left alone? So more little girls can be forced into marriage and sex? Seems inappropriate to want that kind of thing to happen, but to each his own....
CPS is no longer alleging any of what you mention above. They are no longer accusing mothers of forcing girls into anything. They are accusing them of NOT FORCING them to refrain from contact with their fathers.
Your combination of ignorance, bias, and straw man attacks seem to be very common in Texas. That is, no doubt, why the illegal raid happened in the first place, and why your tax dollars will soon be funding a new and improved YFZ ranch.
Cheers!
Sokol | 12:05 p.m. Aug. 18, 2008
What law did they break? You mean the systemic
obliteration of the fundamental constitutional right
to parent and to be guarenteed free process by the
state of Texas. Let us not be naive, state and local governments and a cadre of self proclaimed
experts have a field day in making money for treatment and so called protections...
Here is the list that benefits:
Counselors
Guardian Ad Litums
Other Attorneys
Psychologists
Psychiatrists
Major health care providers
Counties
Children and Youth Departments
Sheriff's Office
Mediators
Facilitators
Wise Person's
Investigators
Foster Parents in it for the money
The list goes on and on....everyone reaps the
financial rewards by keeping innocent families
in the so called 'safe system.'
While proof could be ascertained, there is plenty
of potential for judicial corrupt....All in the
name of ripping innocent children away from their
own lifestyle and religion that may be different than
yours.
obliteration of the fundamental constitutional right
to parent and to be guarenteed free process by the
state of Texas. Let us not be naive, state and local governments and a cadre of self proclaimed
experts have a field day in making money for treatment and so called protections...
Here is the list that benefits:
Counselors
Guardian Ad Litums
Other Attorneys
Psychologists
Psychiatrists
Major health care providers
Counties
Children and Youth Departments
Sheriff's Office
Mediators
Facilitators
Wise Person's
Investigators
Foster Parents in it for the money
The list goes on and on....everyone reaps the
financial rewards by keeping innocent families
in the so called 'safe system.'
While proof could be ascertained, there is plenty
of potential for judicial corrupt....All in the
name of ripping innocent children away from their
own lifestyle and religion that may be different than
yours.
Sokol | 12:06 p.m. Aug. 18, 2008
I meant 'due process.
wiser | 12:09 p.m. Aug. 18, 2008
I tired of the disgusting FLDS men. Time for a change.
zxcvbnm | 12:18 p.m. Aug. 18, 2008
Laws.........laws crafted with the sole intention of busting a church. Just ask the author........hildibrand has already made his intentions clear.
Joey | 12:42 p.m. Aug. 18, 2008
I wonder what Marleigh Meisner and Pat Crimmins are smiling about. Happy to get
more fodder for the foster care mill and up their foster care statistics?
nosugrof | 12:44 p.m. Aug. 18, 2008
Re:Gal50 This is not about child abuse. This is about CPS showing them
who's boss. The FLDS has already promised not to perform any more underage
marriages. There have been no allegations of underage marriages since 2006.
These childre are in no danger.
tigerlily | 12:45 p.m. Aug. 18, 2008
the flds children were taken illegally. their fathers are innocent til proven
guilty.
to anom: nothing has been proven
re to tigerlilly: nothing has been proven. they are doing this because the fld religion is different. the flds have a right to live their religion just like you and i do.
to transplant: again nothing has been proven against any of these people except warren jeffs. there is nothing wrong with a child having a relationship with their father. things should be proven against the men before cps even tries to take the children
to anom: nothing has been proven
re to tigerlilly: nothing has been proven. they are doing this because the fld religion is different. the flds have a right to live their religion just like you and i do.
to transplant: again nothing has been proven against any of these people except warren jeffs. there is nothing wrong with a child having a relationship with their father. things should be proven against the men before cps even tries to take the children
Sokol | 12:46 p.m. Aug. 18, 2008
There is just nothing like freedom of the press. I
post a relevant comment about the FLDS having their
civil rights violated and then have my freedom of speech squelched by the Deseret News..Remember you
only have rights, if the government or the newspapers
agree with giving them to you.
post a relevant comment about the FLDS having their
civil rights violated and then have my freedom of speech squelched by the Deseret News..Remember you
only have rights, if the government or the newspapers
agree with giving them to you.
tigerlily | 1:54 p.m. Aug. 18, 2008
Winston::: the fathers are innocent til proven guilty
Anonymous | 2:52 p.m. Aug. 18, 2008
To nosugrof
"The FLDS has already promised not to perform any more underage marriages."
Well, hey! That's surely good enough for me!
"The FLDS has already promised not to perform any more underage marriages."
Well, hey! That's surely good enough for me!
Evin | 3:13 p.m. Aug. 18, 2008
Blah Blah Blah! don't you people ever get sick of this stupid discussion of
the disgusting Flds people? They just need to stop this evil cult from further
abuse of children, and that is all. If needs be break it up!
realitycheck | 4:06 p.m. Aug. 18, 2008
Face the facts (and the music), FLDS people. You brought this all on yourselves.
You took a fairly benign practice like polygamy and let Jeffs et al twist the
whole thing into the ugliness that is today's FLDS.
It's time to take your medicine like a man (or woman) and then move on and start over. You'll need to ditch the hierarchy that got you here (Jeffs, Jessop, etc) and go back to the basic tenets that are your true religion.
No one cares if you have 5 wives and 50 children, as long as you support them, ensure they have decent schooling, and give them the freedom to make choices in the future. And trading your daughters for favors with the leadership has got to stop.
This isn't rocket science. You know what you've been doing wrong, and you know what makes a good parent. You lost sight of both by allowing the likes of Jeffs and company to run the show.
You'll have to take the punishment doled out for your foolishness and indiscretions.
And you better watch and report abuse in the future, instead of hiding it under a rug. Don't be a coward, nor a sheep.
It's time to take your medicine like a man (or woman) and then move on and start over. You'll need to ditch the hierarchy that got you here (Jeffs, Jessop, etc) and go back to the basic tenets that are your true religion.
No one cares if you have 5 wives and 50 children, as long as you support them, ensure they have decent schooling, and give them the freedom to make choices in the future. And trading your daughters for favors with the leadership has got to stop.
This isn't rocket science. You know what you've been doing wrong, and you know what makes a good parent. You lost sight of both by allowing the likes of Jeffs and company to run the show.
You'll have to take the punishment doled out for your foolishness and indiscretions.
And you better watch and report abuse in the future, instead of hiding it under a rug. Don't be a coward, nor a sheep.
u crack me up | 4:17 p.m. Aug. 18, 2008
never fails to amuse me to see all the FLDS supporters defending the parents at
the expense of the children. Boy do you have your priorities screwed up.
And tigerlily - these people turn little children into drones with no future. You really want to defend that? how sad. Tell us truthfully - would you want to be an FLDS child? I didn't think so.
same to sokol, joey, zxcvbnm, etc. You all go on about how the parents rights were violated, but say nothing about the little children raised with one purpose and no future. Some even find it amusing. Well, next time an FLDS girl wants a career instead of children (her right to choose) and she is forced (via coercion) to marry her uncle or stepfather, you can sit back and laugh.
land of the free - yeah, right. Not in FLDS...
And tigerlily - these people turn little children into drones with no future. You really want to defend that? how sad. Tell us truthfully - would you want to be an FLDS child? I didn't think so.
same to sokol, joey, zxcvbnm, etc. You all go on about how the parents rights were violated, but say nothing about the little children raised with one purpose and no future. Some even find it amusing. Well, next time an FLDS girl wants a career instead of children (her right to choose) and she is forced (via coercion) to marry her uncle or stepfather, you can sit back and laugh.
land of the free - yeah, right. Not in FLDS...
re nosugrof 12:44pm | 4:28 p.m. Aug. 18, 2008
this is ENTIRELY about child abuse. if you can't see that, then you
haven't thought about it very well.
And underage marriages is merely the tip of the iceburg. These parents train their children to be one thing and one thing only. Therefore, these children are in danger every day.
It is just like parents that teach their child that at a certain age they have to cut off their arms and legs. Pretty much determines their entire future.
So at what point does religious teaching flow over into abuse? I believe it is when free will and self-determination is taken away. That happens now in FLDS.
Someone said that teaching childen to break the law (polygamy) or to hide from the world was not child abuse. Only when the child takes the action does it become child abuse. I disagree entirely, since if the child cuts off their limbs it is too late. Same scenario.
It must be nice to feel the parents can teach their children anything they want. And I guess legally they can. So you all stand there crying "its legal" while all the kids get sucked into a life of repression and control. hurray.
And underage marriages is merely the tip of the iceburg. These parents train their children to be one thing and one thing only. Therefore, these children are in danger every day.
It is just like parents that teach their child that at a certain age they have to cut off their arms and legs. Pretty much determines their entire future.
So at what point does religious teaching flow over into abuse? I believe it is when free will and self-determination is taken away. That happens now in FLDS.
Someone said that teaching childen to break the law (polygamy) or to hide from the world was not child abuse. Only when the child takes the action does it become child abuse. I disagree entirely, since if the child cuts off their limbs it is too late. Same scenario.
It must be nice to feel the parents can teach their children anything they want. And I guess legally they can. So you all stand there crying "its legal" while all the kids get sucked into a life of repression and control. hurray.
Matthew | 4:37 p.m. Aug. 18, 2008
With all the kids in this country that are being raised by video games and cable
TV and with all the teenagers that are sexually active and with all the
substance abuse... Why is everyone so focused on this one little group? Go to
your local school, church, Boys and Girls Club or whatever and do something to
actually make a difference in someone's life instead of passing judgement
on people you've never met and supporting unconsitutional actions by agents
of the government.
Work for something, build someone up, do good for goodness sake!
Work for something, build someone up, do good for goodness sake!
nosugrof | 4:42 p.m. Aug. 18, 2008
Ultimatley, this has nothing to do with child abuse. all you have are
allegations of underage marriages and no other form of abuse. The commments made
by Rick Perry and other state oficials shows that this is really about religious
andpersecution.
Anonymous | 4:44 p.m. Aug. 18, 2008
I'm doing something. I'm supporting the state in their efforts to shut
these religious sex enslavement camps down.
re Matthew 4:37pm | 4:54 p.m. Aug. 18, 2008
you're kidding, right? You really don't get it?
We are focused on this little group because 1000s of children are losing all hope for a future of their choosing simply because their parents decided what they were going to be on the day they were born.
And what does video games and tv and substance abuse and sex have to do with anything? It's a parent's job to TEACH their children what is right and what is wrong. NOT HIDE THEM AND ISOLATE THAM AND KEEP THEM FROM HAVING ANY FUTURE IN THE REAL WORLD!! That's not parenting. That's slavery.
All that the FLDS way is telling me is that the parents are SO BAD at parenting, they have to hide and isolate and lie to their children to get them to act right.
Well, that's some pretty pathetic parents. And from them come pathetic childen - and the circle continues...
And we are doing something. We're hoping the FLDS parents will open their eyes and see just how unfair it is to pre-determine a child's future.
Sorry if you would rather we ignore the little prison camp thing going on here.
We are focused on this little group because 1000s of children are losing all hope for a future of their choosing simply because their parents decided what they were going to be on the day they were born.
And what does video games and tv and substance abuse and sex have to do with anything? It's a parent's job to TEACH their children what is right and what is wrong. NOT HIDE THEM AND ISOLATE THAM AND KEEP THEM FROM HAVING ANY FUTURE IN THE REAL WORLD!! That's not parenting. That's slavery.
All that the FLDS way is telling me is that the parents are SO BAD at parenting, they have to hide and isolate and lie to their children to get them to act right.
Well, that's some pretty pathetic parents. And from them come pathetic childen - and the circle continues...
And we are doing something. We're hoping the FLDS parents will open their eyes and see just how unfair it is to pre-determine a child's future.
Sorry if you would rather we ignore the little prison camp thing going on here.
DR Don | 5:09 p.m. Aug. 18, 2008
Sokol: This is a privately owned board. The First Amendment constrains the
government, not private parties. There is no "free speech" on private
property.
Well... | 5:14 p.m. Aug. 18, 2008
I'm against underage marriage. Other than the caller who was a hoax, is
there any evidence of one yet? If so then punish the purpetrators only. Has Is
there any confirmed evidence of child abuse? If so, punish the purpetrators
only.
What is disturbing is 1) there has not yet been a single piece of evidence (at least released yet - usually the government releases some details of their cases, or the media get hold of something). And 2) the government is (or was?) required to show proof or cause to take away rights, yet CPS took away every kid.
Hold on there - I am not a polygamist. But what happened here is an affront on constitutionally protected rights. I can't CPS they had something on all 440 cases.
What is disturbing is 1) there has not yet been a single piece of evidence (at least released yet - usually the government releases some details of their cases, or the media get hold of something). And 2) the government is (or was?) required to show proof or cause to take away rights, yet CPS took away every kid.
Hold on there - I am not a polygamist. But what happened here is an affront on constitutionally protected rights. I can't CPS they had something on all 440 cases.
happy camper | 5:12 p.m. Aug. 18, 2008
matthew
Thats the most real and uplifting statement that Ive' seen yet. Its nice to finally come across something worthwhile in the midst of hell.
Thats the most real and uplifting statement that Ive' seen yet. Its nice to finally come across something worthwhile in the midst of hell.
Anonymous | 5:20 p.m. Aug. 18, 2008
Sad, sad crazy cultists.
zxcvbnm | 5:45 p.m. Aug. 18, 2008
Carolyn Jessop is not a witness to actions that took place in Texas and as Rios pointed out may have taken place twenty years ago.
So hey.....go after Dan Fischer for his multiple wives and child abuse years ago in a different state.........
A non witness testifies to non events that did not occur in the state of Texas much less at YFZ.......kinda like a non existant Sarah.........
How many more non witnesses will be put on the stand to testify to non-events?
zxcvbnm | 6:01 p.m. Aug. 18, 2008
Just for a little added non-event. Carolyn acknowledged that the accusations she made against Merril ....if they are true....occured twenty years ago.
None of the kids were born twenty years ago.......how can a man whos whereabouts are unknown be a threat to kids based on testimony of a woman who acknowledges the timeframe of her accusations does not include the children involved today?
Joey | 7:05 p.m. Aug. 18, 2008
The FLDS parents just don't want their daughters getting STDs and possibly
dying of AIDs. Out in the real world, 25% of all teen girls have STDs. Who would
want their kid out in the real world with a statistic like that?
If more people knew that, they'd consider joining the Amish or the FLDS, or starting their own separatist society.
If more people knew that, they'd consider joining the Amish or the FLDS, or starting their own separatist society.
Anonymous | 8:19 p.m. Aug. 18, 2008
zxcvbnm...no she didn't...and yes I was there in person...if you knew half
as much as you would like for everyone to think you do you would know that
Merrill's whereabouts are not unknown.
Out of Stater | 9:28 p.m. Aug. 18, 2008
After reading many of these comments, I am beginning to think that there is a
lot of sympathy in Utah for the polygamists. It is interesting that there is
news article after news article saying that the polygamists are a small minority
and don't represent Utah views. You'd never know it be reading this
comment section. I think I'll stay in Wyoming. Most here know right from
wrong.
Claire | 9:45 p.m. Aug. 18, 2008
I would like for all FLDS to consider this...statistics show that more boys are born into this world than girls...so how do you account for your excess of men in your community? Do you think that this is why in your community the men marry girls so young, robbing from the next generation? They do not have enough women to support the polygamist lifestyle!
Sure the world out here can be scary, but there are a lot of wonderful people who believe in the scriptures and they live by them. You really can live in the world, but not be of the world, so your argument that you can only avoid the evils of the world in your community is not valid. There are millions who are doing it out here in the real world.
The men are abusing your young girls. It is evil to the rest of us. It needs to stop.
Tee | 9:48 p.m. Aug. 18, 2008
She will never say a word, I guarantee you. She knows better. She is one of the
young badly brainwashed women.
Follow the money or lack of it | 10:25 p.m. Aug. 18, 2008
What no one has mentioned is the massive welfare fraud perpetrated by these
people. The vast majority of them have "free" health care provided by
taxpayers. It is called Medicaid.
These "poor" "single" women with all those children and no money wow are they.
Abuse and welfare fraud. They use the system expertly.
Warren Jeffs has caused much trauma and pain for this closed society, yet they still blindly follow.
These "poor" "single" women with all those children and no money wow are they.
Abuse and welfare fraud. They use the system expertly.
Warren Jeffs has caused much trauma and pain for this closed society, yet they still blindly follow.
Wyo Reader | 10:46 p.m. Aug. 18, 2008
Does anyone else think it is funny that the court house is named the Tom Green
County Courthouse! Ha! Ha! Round 'em up and save the children!
I've lived in Wyoming | 10:57 p.m. Aug. 18, 2008
at least they are dealing with women, not sheep.
FLDS is evil. If they want to break our country's laws then hide behind the skirt of the protections of the country they thumb their nose as, they need to think a little better.
Why not move to Mexico? Why here? The sense of entitlement despite unlawfulness is appalling.
FLDS is evil. If they want to break our country's laws then hide behind the skirt of the protections of the country they thumb their nose as, they need to think a little better.
Why not move to Mexico? Why here? The sense of entitlement despite unlawfulness is appalling.
tigerlily | 11:16 p.m. Aug. 18, 2008
u crack me up:: they have the right to raise their children however they want
just like you and i do. they can raise their children in any religion they want.
that way of life is what they chose when they joined that church.
tigerlily | 11:48 p.m. Aug. 18, 2008
to nosugruf: if what you said is true why didn't the women walk away when
help was offered to them?
Ron | 11:48 p.m. Aug. 18, 2008
She sounds like she part of the Bush Admin
Bob | 11:58 p.m. Aug. 18, 2008
Conditions only became worse when the children were separated from their
mothers. One mother was required to board the bus even though her child was in
the hospital with a 104-degree fever and the doctor had personally requested
that the mother be present. A baby was left in a stroller without food or water
for 24 hours and had to be hospitalized. One MH worker recalled a small boy
about three years old walking along the rows of cots with a pillow saying
�I need somebody to rock me; I just want to be rocked; I
want to find a rocking chair.� Instead of comforting him,
two CPS workers merely followed the boy around taking notes. Finally his
eight-year-old brother found him and held him in his lap in a rocking chair.
Another four-year-old boy was so terrified that he hid and was only found after
the Coliseum was emptied the next day.
Bob | 12:05 a.m. Aug. 19, 2008
These are innocent children and no one can dispute that truth.
So why has the CPS and Mighty TEXAS RANGERS incarcerated them in the first place???
You people will pay dearly for the distress you have caused these little ones.
So why has the CPS and Mighty TEXAS RANGERS incarcerated them in the first place???
You people will pay dearly for the distress you have caused these little ones.
anon | 12:17 a.m. Aug. 19, 2008
I do wish that you people who post comments would think and write little more
rationally.
Many of the comments do not make sense because you don't pay attention to what you are writing. For instance, you use pronouns without any indication of whom they refer to! "She" can mean Carolyn, Barbara, the judge, a lawyer, the Jessop girl who returned to the group, etc. Readers can only read what you post, not your minds.
To Out-of-stater:
What makes you think that everyone but you lives in Utah? I suspect that a good number of those who post are also out-of-staters. I also suspect that the very large majority who so staunchly defend the FLDS (certainly those who do it irrationally) do so because they, themselves, are FLDS.
Yes, mistakes were made in the way things were done. But to insist that there was NO evidence of ANYthing is to ignore the facts. Remember, law enforcement has journals, computer records, etc. We certainly don't know everything. Those who insist that there is nothing are really just saying, "I don't know of anything." Or, perhaps they are just blindly denying everything without stopping to think or reason.
Many of the comments do not make sense because you don't pay attention to what you are writing. For instance, you use pronouns without any indication of whom they refer to! "She" can mean Carolyn, Barbara, the judge, a lawyer, the Jessop girl who returned to the group, etc. Readers can only read what you post, not your minds.
To Out-of-stater:
What makes you think that everyone but you lives in Utah? I suspect that a good number of those who post are also out-of-staters. I also suspect that the very large majority who so staunchly defend the FLDS (certainly those who do it irrationally) do so because they, themselves, are FLDS.
Yes, mistakes were made in the way things were done. But to insist that there was NO evidence of ANYthing is to ignore the facts. Remember, law enforcement has journals, computer records, etc. We certainly don't know everything. Those who insist that there is nothing are really just saying, "I don't know of anything." Or, perhaps they are just blindly denying everything without stopping to think or reason.
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Basically, these women lost their children to CPS because girls from some other families were married too early. According to these families, they are capable of preventing their underage girls from marrying.
So, I have to wonder if the families who don't want their underage girls to marry are upset with the families who married off their underage girls?
Hopefully, the remaining mothers can see that it is better to remove their children from these men than to put them back in CPS custody.