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Will Utah GOP release Mitt's delegates?
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Maybe things are little clouded for me, Bob, because I don't clearly see Romney trying to convince McCain to choose him. McCain is considering him, and wisely so, but what hard evidence do you have that Romney is activly seeking to be nominated vice president? What I see is Romney is Romney trying to avoid an emberassing moment at the convention and make a run in '12 or '16 if the oppertunity arrises.
Standing up for rule of law and against party bosses who think that rules were only meant for little people like you and me is hardly nitpicking.
The arrogant disregard for rule of law on the part of modern-day Republican neo-con infiltrators like George W. Bush, Mike Leavitt, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Karl Rove, Orrin Hatch, Chris Cannon, and Rob Bishop has virtually obliterated any respect that the average American voter has for the Republican Party nationally (and in Utah) and has likewise obliterated what respect citizens of other countries once had for the United States of America.
Ignorant and apathetic mockers such as yourself who take the defense of tyrants, cheats, and liars who come dressed in Republican clothing will have much to explain when the flames of freedom are extinguished in our nation and in the world once and for all.
My compliments to Republican activists like Don Guymon (and others not mentioned in the article, such as GOP state central committee members, Nancy Lord and Dale Kay, who have publicly called for Stan Lockhart's resignation).
I share their sentiments. Lockhart must be deposed.
To me this appears to be a direct abuse of his and others in power in our State GOP and a violation trust of all county delegates who voted for the State Central Committee members if they allow it.
Furthermore, why would our National Delegates need to be unbound? Check out "the green papers.com" for the real Delegate count that the general public doesn't know about. McCain is not the automatic nominee.
Emb.? Really. I would be proud to be considered a candidate for president from any party.
Isn't it stupid what politicians do to "look good" or "look presidential"? Good grief, just be human.
Give me a break! Only the Deseret News would claim this is the reason for Romney's popularity in Utah!
If this was so cut and dried, why has it taken two more months before it shows up again.
If Lockhart does this without even 120 votes to unbound from the committee, he is risking all of Utah's votes and even if that is not the case, he will not be re-elected.
It was decided in May we couldn't unbind the delegates this time. Leave it alone.
The effect of that sentence depends on the meaning of the word "candidate." Is it inclusive of all those who were candidates at the time of the Primary or is it only those who are candidates "on the first ballot" at the convention? That is a legitimate question. Romney was a primary election candidate but is not a convention candidate, since he has withdrawn.
It can be argued that the tense of the verb "has received" places the question of candidacy at the time of the convention, not the primary. If it were written, "had received," the candidacy would be of the time of the primary, not the convention.
The State Central Committee is being asked to render an interpretation of that ambiguity, which is its duty according to Roberts Rules of Order, page 570. The GOP takes its rules seriously, and the committee will do its duty.
I guess the fact that the delegates indefinitely tabled (aka: defeted) this at convention doesn't matter.
Lockhart may be able to creatively bend the rules to make himself look good to the RNC, but it won't come without consequences. He's falling on his political sword to do it.
FEC information indicates Romney is still technically a presidential candidate.
Also, at Romney's Web site, clicking the "Continue" link will take you to his campaign Web site, which is still titled "Mitt Romney for President" and is still functional and informational.
It appears that the situation of the winner of the presidential primary suspending his campaign prior to the national convention was not contemplated in the party governing documents. However, the overwhelming voice of the Republican voters at the presidential primary and delegates at the state convention has been heard for this year on the issue.
Rob Alexander
REPUBLican State Delegate, Salt Lake County
REPUBLican Candidate for State Representative
Utah Legislative District 35
The realty behind this is not people wanting to vote for Mitt, they are creating conflict and confusion so people like the above mentioned Ridgeway and Alexander can vote for their favorite son which is Ron Paul. What a waste of time.
The Republican Party's own rules (which they cannot legally change a this time) prevent them from doing anything but what they say.
If you voted for Mike Huckabee or Fred Thompson, you cannot be blamed for this debacle of liberal leaning.
40(b) "Each candidate for nomination for President of the United States and Vice President of the United States shall demonstrate the support of a majority of the delegates from each of five (5) or more states, severally, prior to the presentation of the name of that candidate for nomination."
Mitt Romney has a majority of delegates in only 4 states - MA, MT, UT and WY. As of now, he doesn't qualify for nomination at the convention. Of those who do qualify (only McCain and Huckabee) McCain got more votes in the Utah primary.
This could change by convention time, if Romney decides to pursue his candidacy again, but that seems unlikely.
Personally, I would like to see Utah's GOP delegates be able to vote for Romney, or be unbound to vote their own choice, but the party Bylaws may not allow it.
It seems like you are on both sides of this issue, please clarify.
You state, "Personally, I would like to see Utah's GOP delegates be able to vote for Romney, or be unbound to vote their own choice, but the party Bylaws may not allow it."
What do the party bylaws allow?
(With apologies to everyone else for this boring stuff, but that's what we rules guys do.)
The Republican Party CAN Ignore their caucus elected delegates, their Utah Republican Party platform, constitution and bylaws, national rules, Republican voters of Utah and even reality! BUT, the voters will be ignoring our Republican Party and our Presidential and Congressional candidates will lose BECAUSE they represent the small minority of Stan Lockhart and their other willing power players willing to defy all of the above.
McCain won by a very small minority. The majority of Republicans voted for other than McCain.
"I'm proud and humbled to accept the Republican nomination for president," -- McCain
That's a lie designed to mislead the unaware public to not understand the duty of their Republican National delegates to represent them with a Republican candidate choice that THEY would elect in our general election in November. Contact them!
Ron Paul would be a Republican Presidential candidate who CAN WIN! Defy all noted above and the results will be sweeping Democrat victories.
Stan Lockhart, Republ I CAN or CAN Ignore or can betray? After November, you will be remembered for your part in our Republican losses.
Ronald H Levine,
Loyal platform and principle Republican publicly calling for Stan Lockhart's resignation.
you are saying that Utah's delegates are bound to McCain?
Don
Don, you are a national delegate. If Romney is not a candidate on the first round (in prison, hit by a train, disqualified, or whatever), will you follow the Bylaws and vote for the highest primary vote-getter among the remaining candidates?
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