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3 groups are suing to protect petroglyphs
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John | 11:37 a.m. Aug. 7, 2008
The age of the hippies is over!
envirohoowee | 11:41 a.m. Aug. 7, 2008
There are already gas wells near the area they don't hurt anything and are
much more discrete than they use to be. These groups who file suit have never
lived here and most have never seen the area, they don't care about the
jobs, they are fine with $10 gas. Can anyone tell me how drilling in the base
of the canyon is going to hurt the rock and the art contained therein on the
sides of the canyon?
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Harbinger | 11:42 a.m. Aug. 7, 2008
Does this lawsuit sound like fun? Just wait until our government passes a
sensible energy plan that allows more drilling. Lawsuits like this will run
rampant.
Maybe this is why the Democrats think drilling won't help--because even if it's legal, it won't actually be allowed because of the (broken) court system.
Maybe this is why the Democrats think drilling won't help--because even if it's legal, it won't actually be allowed because of the (broken) court system.
tacoma | 11:53 a.m. Aug. 7, 2008
You complain about the price of oil and gas well you needto drill wells to get
it. What a bunce of brain dead idiots you are
Grant | 11:59 a.m. Aug. 7, 2008
This is why gas is $4.15 a gallon, A compromise would be to ask the gas company
to help with the preservation of the artifacts.
SUWAGOHOME | 12:11 p.m. Aug. 7, 2008
Sanity will return when the enviromentalist leave...
basinboy56 | 12:26 p.m. Aug. 7, 2008
This winter, when your thermostat is set at about 60 degrees because you
can't afford a huge natural gas bill, maybe the fact that the rock art is
being protected will make you feel warm and fuzzy and you'll forget how
cold you are?! Thanks SUWA and Nine Mile Canyon Coalition for contributing to
the gridlock that drives up energy prices.
ultragramps | 12:36 p.m. Aug. 7, 2008
Grant - this is NOT why gas is $4.15 a gallon - all first-year ecomonics
students understand that - and Bill Barrett has been asked - no, they are
required by law - to observe all of the regulations that are established by and
for the BLM in order to maintain "the artifacts," whatever they are
and wherever they are impacted. Any other relevant comments?
Just Thinking | 12:39 p.m. Aug. 7, 2008
Back 100's of years ago, when this rock art was done, I can't help but
think that some of the people thought of this as graffiti, they just didn't
have "Neighborhood Graffiti Removal Parties".
Graffiti? | 12:42 p.m. Aug. 7, 2008
Goodness, our community has a graffiti abatement program--just as soon as
graffiti is discovered, it's painted over.
How old does graffiti have to be before it's considered "art". And how long before it's considered "valuable prehistoric art treasures"?
How do we tell the difference between "significant art" and graffiti?
I'm quite sure this "rock art" could be protected with the amount of money this group is spending to stir up trouble. And we could still drill for the gas.
Meanwhile, I'm going to suggest to our community that they are covering up potential historic art treasures and they better stop!
How old does graffiti have to be before it's considered "art". And how long before it's considered "valuable prehistoric art treasures"?
How do we tell the difference between "significant art" and graffiti?
I'm quite sure this "rock art" could be protected with the amount of money this group is spending to stir up trouble. And we could still drill for the gas.
Meanwhile, I'm going to suggest to our community that they are covering up potential historic art treasures and they better stop!
realist | 12:48 p.m. Aug. 7, 2008
I agree with basinboy its time we let the spotted owls either survive or die on
their own. We need to send the SUWA and nine mile canyon coalition to the
olympics with a one way ticket
Tired of granola | 1:05 p.m. Aug. 7, 2008
I can't help but wonder if we drain all of the dams and preserve all of
these paintings will there be anyone around to give a care? It takes natural
reasorces to live ... and by their standards I am an animal so I have the right
to live.
I also wonder how many of these complainers ride their bikes to observe all of these treasures ... or do they just dive their carbon emitting vehicles like the rest of us.
Environmentalist are the biggest group of hypocrites ... if they were really dedicated they wouldn't use any natural resources ... then there would be more for the rest of us.
What's the definition of an environmentalist ... someone who built their cabin last year.
I also wonder how many of these complainers ride their bikes to observe all of these treasures ... or do they just dive their carbon emitting vehicles like the rest of us.
Environmentalist are the biggest group of hypocrites ... if they were really dedicated they wouldn't use any natural resources ... then there would be more for the rest of us.
What's the definition of an environmentalist ... someone who built their cabin last year.
Belgie | 1:51 p.m. Aug. 7, 2008
Dust and vibrations? Good grief. Nobody cares about dust and vibrations when
it's happening outside my door. But, if it's next to 300 year old
graffiti, there's going to be a lawsuit.
Chris | 2:13 p.m. Aug. 7, 2008
Rocks are just rocks in the end. If you don't want you winter heating bill
to be $300 a month than let them do their jobs.
I think the company wanting the permit is Questar but if you wan to make some investments in these companies look at GSX or ROYL. They are both going to make some UT NG money.
I think the company wanting the permit is Questar but if you wan to make some investments in these companies look at GSX or ROYL. They are both going to make some UT NG money.
Oh brother | 2:18 p.m. Aug. 7, 2008
To all you short-sighted folks. If BLM broke the law they deserve to be called
on it. Also, this will have little or no impact on the price of your natural
gas - get real! Once that gas comes out of the ground it's price is based
on the market -we don't get a break just because it's in our backyard.
Take a look at gasoline prices in Utah (20 cents above national average), and
remember our gasoline sources are local too - not imported from the middle-east!
I get tired of everyone who is willing to throw away our history if it'll
save them a buck or two. I'll bet the majority of you are part of the
"family values" crowd too. There's a wise saying I once heard
"because we don't think about future generations they'll never be
able to forget us".
Anonymous | 2:23 p.m. Aug. 7, 2008
Reading these comments is insight in to a state with a mission statement to
become America's dump site of choice.
native | 2:28 p.m. Aug. 7, 2008
I can not believe the comments related to this article. Being raised in castle
valley(proud of that), I still remember the trips up the canyon in the back of
my dads truck. I remember all of the rock art and their locations. For a boy at
such a young age it was an adventure. Now that I am older and have studied the
canyon much more I have such a strong love for that canyon and the mysteries it
contains. I remember main street Price being something. I remember all of the
fun stores (woolworths, richards toggery, jacks shoes, etc.) All in the name of
progress Walmart came in and like the sheep people are they rushed to support
the Walton family. Main street now looks dismal. Now you want to destroy one of
the most spectaculor canyons in the US, so you can light your gas fire place in
the winter. Maybe if we conserved a little more we wouldn't have to destroy
our national treasures. This coming from a conservative non-hippie. Kudos to
Waldo Wilcox.
Ted | 2:32 p.m. Aug. 7, 2008
I saw one of my all time favorite bumper stickers on a car in Carbon County:
"Environmentalists. Let the (expletives) freeze in the dark."
Don't know that will ever happen but this country must have the sense to sensibly and carefully develop our natural resources. Otherwise we're doomed to be forever held hostage by foreign energy producers.
Don't know that will ever happen but this country must have the sense to sensibly and carefully develop our natural resources. Otherwise we're doomed to be forever held hostage by foreign energy producers.
re-oh brother | 2:50 p.m. Aug. 7, 2008
I always thought the market price was based on two elements, supply and demand.
You are leaving a big part of the equation out. Who says we will throw away
history because we drill some holes in the ground. Don't worry you
precious graffiti will be taken care of.
charles | 2:51 p.m. Aug. 7, 2008
I visited Nine mile canyon and Cottonwood canyon on July 4 of this year, all day
long we came upon only 10 vehicles and 3 of them were water trucks spraying the
road. Beautiful drive, pave it to help preserve my truck;)
Huh? | 2:57 p.m. Aug. 7, 2008
Let's get a pool among us and sue the sue'ers.
I'm tired of the eco-nuts getting in the way of progress.
What's more important here? Humans or rock art??
Patrick | 2:56 p.m. Aug. 7, 2008
I don't know if people realize how ignorant it is to call ancient
petroglyphs "graffiti." For the record, drilling for natural gas is
going to have absolutely /no/ impact on the price of your precious gasoline, and
it shouldn't have any part at all in this discussion. Please don't
make Utah seem even more stupid to the rest of the world world by rushing to
easy, "conservative," conclusions without actually thinking about what
is at stake. You may be going broke driving your F350 on I-15 everyday, but
don't try to pass on your frustration by pointing fingers in all the wrong
places.
Matthew | 2:57 p.m. Aug. 7, 2008
The Nine Mile Canyon Coalition has never objected to energy development in the
area. They have objected to using Nine Mile Canyon as an industrial access when
there are alternative routes to the energy leases that bypass the canyon. The
Coalition also objects to BLM and breaking laws to allow energy development to
trump all other uses, values and resources, such as heritage tourism and
cultural preservation.
All these groups are asking for is RESPONSIBLE energy development within the law.
All these groups are asking for is RESPONSIBLE energy development within the law.
Oh brother | 3:40 p.m. Aug. 7, 2008
to "re-oh brother" It has been calculated that the ENTIRE Tavputs
Plateau will supply our country with a whopping 17 days worth of natural gas -
google it, you'll even find articles in both the local papers addressing
this very issue. Besides -what you and apparently every other alarmist seems to
ignore is that NO ONE IS TRYING TO STOP THE DRILLING - THEY JUST WANT INDUSTRY
TO GO AROUND! Is that really too much to ask? Or does corporate convenience
trump everything else?
JUSTIN | 3:44 p.m. Aug. 7, 2008
I have worked on the drilling rigs in that area for 4 years and i have hunted in
that same area for the last 10 years we are not hurting the petroglifs at all
they are 100 feet or more off the road and as far as the dust it is no worse
then opening day of hunting season. as far as wild life the deer and elk hurds
have grown over the last 5 years scence all the drilling has taken place. If
there are any eco people reading this how do you think they heat the furnises
that mold the plastic in your computer?? oh ya stop driving your hummers and
escalades that will save lots too. AND leave us alone we have to make a living
too!!!!!!
Re.: Patrick @ 2:56pm | 3:59 p.m. Aug. 7, 2008
Please forgive me, oh enlightened one, I can see now the errors of my ways! ...
Just because you see it as ancient petroglyphs, (dang, that hurt my fingers
trying to type it), does not mean everyone should.
Also rereading your comment, I sense a touch of envy with a side of arrogance, i.e.: "...Utah seem even more stupid...", it should be "...Utah seem even more stupidier..."
Also rereading your comment, I sense a touch of envy with a side of arrogance, i.e.: "...Utah seem even more stupid...", it should be "...Utah seem even more stupidier..."
Anonymous | 4:46 p.m. Aug. 7, 2008
Justin - no one wants to take your job away - anybody with any common sense
knows you're a bunch of hard working people. But, your employer needs to
be more responsible, not given special privileges and the BLM should be required
to do their job according to the LAW - with no exceptions. The Oil and Gas
Industry is raking in the largest corporate profits in history and at the same
time trying to play the "poor, poor, picked on me" card. They have
more than adequate funds to simply go around Nine Mile Canyon and put this issue
to rest once and for all.
But Justin, you may have just inadvertently uncovered part of the problem with industry in the canyon. If you've been in Nine Mile for more than ten years and still think that all of the rock art is more than a 100 feet from the road you're sadly mistaken as a significant number of rock art panels are within a couple of yards of it - with some being quite literally on it - especially at the mouth of Harmon Canyon where the road was recently widened.
But Justin, you may have just inadvertently uncovered part of the problem with industry in the canyon. If you've been in Nine Mile for more than ten years and still think that all of the rock art is more than a 100 feet from the road you're sadly mistaken as a significant number of rock art panels are within a couple of yards of it - with some being quite literally on it - especially at the mouth of Harmon Canyon where the road was recently widened.
Anonymous | 5:13 p.m. Aug. 7, 2008
To Justin continued: As for dust in the canyon, I think you're partially
right, Nine Mile has always been pretty dusty, at least in the heat of summer.
But in the past dust was only stirred up by tourists, ranchers and hunters who
generally drive vehicles with only 4 wheels on the road. The impact of the dust
changes significantly when you factor in the hundreds of daily round trips that
will be made by 18-wheelers over the span of the 800 well project. To date it is
estimated that Nine Mile has more than 10,000 petroglyphs and pictographs - even
someone who couldn't care less about rockart would be hard pressed to argue
that that figure is not impressive. In fact the canyon has one of the highest
concentrations of rockart anywhere in the world - period. The preservation of
something this unique deserves to be given due consideration by our PUBLIC land
managers and not trumped by PRIVATE CORPORATE interests.
Like I said before, the dust would quite literally settle on this issue once and for all if an alternative route is taken.
Like I said before, the dust would quite literally settle on this issue once and for all if an alternative route is taken.
Candice | 5:49 p.m. Aug. 7, 2008
Two years ago I drove my boys down to Nine Mile Canyon to see one of the
greatest concentrations of rock art in the world. I had spent many days over the
years exploring the numerous panels throughout the towering rock walls. This
time was different, as we were enjoying the sites several large semi trucks came
barreling down the road and choked us out with dust. This happened time and time
again. As I looked at the rock art I noticed that much of it was now covered in
a thick dust. I was disappointed that my children would not be able to enjoy the
day as I had so many times before and my photographs would not show the
imagination and creativity that was once apparent.
What people call graffiti is some of the last remnants of a once great people, a people that could survive on the resources available to them. Many sites are sacred and a way to connect to ancestral ways. Some are or were burial sites. I�m sure if we trampled so carelessly over our graveyards, history, and spiritual sites it would not be tolerated. This is a treasure worth fussing over.
What people call graffiti is some of the last remnants of a once great people, a people that could survive on the resources available to them. Many sites are sacred and a way to connect to ancestral ways. Some are or were burial sites. I�m sure if we trampled so carelessly over our graveyards, history, and spiritual sites it would not be tolerated. This is a treasure worth fussing over.
They're not alone | 6:03 p.m. Aug. 7, 2008
During the recent EIS comment period, two major groups who opposed how BLM is
handling industry in Nine Mile were the Hopi Tribe, the National Trust for
Historic Preservation and the Theodore Roosevelt Conservation Partnership
(Hunting and Fishing organization). The BLM also received an additional 53,000+
letters from people who know the canyon well enough to actually make the effort
to voice their oppinion. To those simply voicing their opinion about an issue
they don't really understand this should give you an important clue that
this whole issue is not simply a bunch of "enviros" attacking oil and
gas. The EPA also condemned the project until it was over-written by the
D.C.Office. A google search will also show you that the resignation of D.C EPA
head Stephen Johnson has been called for because he has consistantly succumbed
to political pressure instead of enforcing the law.
Mark | 6:53 p.m. Aug. 7, 2008
Nine Mile Canyon is more than a repository of rock art, including, incidentally
such themes as Lehi's Dream and the Fall of Man, as well as a treasure
trove of ancient fortresses, granaries, tiny and not so tiny dwelling places, it
is also a spectacular canyon, rivaling many national parks in its beauty. It is
painful to see this magnificant display of God's handiwork marred by great
shiny buildings, and other garish man-made structures, utterly out of place in
this lovely testimony to the creativity of our Creator.
What makes 9Mile so special? | 7:07 p.m. Aug. 7, 2008
1-Nine Mile Road is one of only 126 National Scenic Byways in the entire U.S.
2-Nine Mile Road was built by Buffalo Soldiers in the 1860's and soon became the most highly travelled road in the state. 100's of Buffalo Soldiers and freighters wrote their names in axle grease on the canyon walls to document their passing.
3-The canyon contains more than 10,000 rockart images of which less than 10% have been recorded.
National Geographic calls it the "World's Longest Art Gallery"
4-People have lived in the canyon and documented their lives on its walls for at least 8,000 years.
5-9Mile and the Tavaputs Plateau have some of the largest elk, black bear and cougar populations in the state.
6-9Mile Canyon is a sister canyon to Range Creek (famous for its well preserved archaeology) but actually contains a significantly higher number of rock art panels
7-Butch Cassidy and the Wild Bunch frequented the Canyon.
8-Preston Nutter - one of the West's most powerful cattle barrons - was centered in the Canyon
9-Utah's newest license plate features a petroglyph from Nine Mile
2-Nine Mile Road was built by Buffalo Soldiers in the 1860's and soon became the most highly travelled road in the state. 100's of Buffalo Soldiers and freighters wrote their names in axle grease on the canyon walls to document their passing.
3-The canyon contains more than 10,000 rockart images of which less than 10% have been recorded.
National Geographic calls it the "World's Longest Art Gallery"
4-People have lived in the canyon and documented their lives on its walls for at least 8,000 years.
5-9Mile and the Tavaputs Plateau have some of the largest elk, black bear and cougar populations in the state.
6-9Mile Canyon is a sister canyon to Range Creek (famous for its well preserved archaeology) but actually contains a significantly higher number of rock art panels
7-Butch Cassidy and the Wild Bunch frequented the Canyon.
8-Preston Nutter - one of the West's most powerful cattle barrons - was centered in the Canyon
9-Utah's newest license plate features a petroglyph from Nine Mile
Anonymous | 9:54 p.m. Aug. 7, 2008
Maybe we need to stop living in the past and start looking to our future. The
rock art in nine mile canyon will be gone in a generation because of natural
decay anyway.
reWhat makes 9Mile so special? | 10:23 p.m. Aug. 7, 2008
What's going to happen to 9 mile when the economy hits, the crapper, and
people are living in shanties after all the looting and Armegeddon?
Can you eat an artifact?
Can you eat an artifact?
re:What makes 9Mile so special? | 10:25 p.m. Aug. 7, 2008
OK...
So what makes 9 mile so special?
Should we all go out and Paint on the walls, is that it?
The place could become a landfill, and it would not affect me.
So what makes 9 mile so special?
Should we all go out and Paint on the walls, is that it?
The place could become a landfill, and it would not affect me.
Wow, what an argument | 10:31 p.m. Aug. 7, 2008
So, 10,000 rock art images that have survived the last 1,000 are nothing more
than graffiti? Since when has the spray paint on the side of your neighborhood
been protected under Federal law?
Rock art is merely old graffity, the U.S. flag just an over exposed piece of fabric and the Star Spangled Banner just another old melodramtic song that no one care really sing. Don't you people get it? It's what these things represent that make them important to us - human pain, suffering, sacrifice and the spirit and determination to triumph. Each society simply has a different way of expressing themselves and it's foolish, selfish and short-sighted to lose respect for the accomplishments made by those who came before us and made our way of life possible.
Rock art is merely old graffity, the U.S. flag just an over exposed piece of fabric and the Star Spangled Banner just another old melodramtic song that no one care really sing. Don't you people get it? It's what these things represent that make them important to us - human pain, suffering, sacrifice and the spirit and determination to triumph. Each society simply has a different way of expressing themselves and it's foolish, selfish and short-sighted to lose respect for the accomplishments made by those who came before us and made our way of life possible.
I say we bury | 4:09 a.m. Aug. 9, 2008
these sue-mongering idiots six feet under and take a chisel to the petroglyphs.
Anonymous | 8:39 a.m. Aug. 9, 2008
So much ignorance. Sad.
Enough | 9:21 a.m. Aug. 9, 2008
Here�s an idea. Let�s declare SUWA a
terrorist group bent on destroying the US economy and our way of life just like
the terrorist of the middle east. Let�s also identify any
other terrorist groups (you know who you are) that fly planes into buildings and
opposes domestic energy development and would rather have us transfer our wealth
to the middle east by importing 70% of the energy that we consume. BTW these
terrorist will also elect Obama and then have him declare nine mile canyon a
national park. Think I�m kidding. Just wait. It will be
Bill Clinton scene two. He won�t even come to Utah to work
his nation park nightmare magic. However if SUWA is declared a terrorist group
then we can ship them to Guantanamo and get on with an energy policy that will
make us self-sufficient. Since there are no trees to hug in nine mile canyon the
SUWA terrorists could take a rock to Guantanamo as a memento of their attempt to
destroy the America of our forefathers.
It should be a park | 10:19 a.m. Aug. 9, 2008
Ya know - there is a ton of geothermal energy in Yellowstone - I think we should
start mining Yellowstone for it's geothermal energy...
Well, that's about as good of an idea as we have here with drilling in Nile Mile. The only difference is that Nine Mile Canyon should have been made a national monument... and there wouldn't be any of this discussion.
You should really go see it before all the rock art by the road is covered and obscured by dust.
Well, that's about as good of an idea as we have here with drilling in Nile Mile. The only difference is that Nine Mile Canyon should have been made a national monument... and there wouldn't be any of this discussion.
You should really go see it before all the rock art by the road is covered and obscured by dust.
liberal Larry | 10:51 a.m. Aug. 9, 2008
Maybe it's because Utah has always been a poor, low wage state, but
I've never seen a people, who live in such a beautiful state, who have such
low environmental standards. I guess it is up to those of us non-natives to
appreciate, and try to preserve, our natural beauty. "Honey, fire off
another check to SUWA, the natives are getting restless."
re: I say we bury | 11:42 a.m. Aug. 9, 2008
Does that "we" include Billy Bob, Cletus Jr., Cooter, and Rosco?
Phred | 2:02 p.m. Aug. 9, 2008
Patrick,
For the record it will affect electiciity and heating and transportation fuel cost. Demand for CNG is on the rise as we get more CNG vehicles and more coal fired power plants switch to it. That will make it less attractive to pay the extra to purchase a CNG or electric vehicle. Current Utah price is about 98 cents per gasoline gallon equivalent while it is @2.89 gge in Colorado and $5.40 in North Carolina. Currently there is enough demand that the existing stations have trouble keeping up with it. They have to compress it to about 3,400 psi and that takes awhile between customers so even with as few CNG vehicles as there are on the road now, often you can only get a quarter to a half tank when you stop in.
You can buy small compressors for home use for an additional $6,000 and it can fill it if you can wait 18 hrs for 8 gge on a Honda but that adds an additional 20 cents for electricity and $2.38 depreciation on the pump per gallon.
On the up side, Google methane hydrate. Maybe some good things coming down the road. ;-)
For the record it will affect electiciity and heating and transportation fuel cost. Demand for CNG is on the rise as we get more CNG vehicles and more coal fired power plants switch to it. That will make it less attractive to pay the extra to purchase a CNG or electric vehicle. Current Utah price is about 98 cents per gasoline gallon equivalent while it is @2.89 gge in Colorado and $5.40 in North Carolina. Currently there is enough demand that the existing stations have trouble keeping up with it. They have to compress it to about 3,400 psi and that takes awhile between customers so even with as few CNG vehicles as there are on the road now, often you can only get a quarter to a half tank when you stop in.
You can buy small compressors for home use for an additional $6,000 and it can fill it if you can wait 18 hrs for 8 gge on a Honda but that adds an additional 20 cents for electricity and $2.38 depreciation on the pump per gallon.
On the up side, Google methane hydrate. Maybe some good things coming down the road. ;-)
Spoc | 2:11 p.m. Aug. 9, 2008
A number of respondents have offered the notion that there is another access
road into this area that is of sufficient size and is accessible enough for the
required equipment and supply vehicles to gain access without going through
9-Mile.
Does anyone know what the additional distance is on this proposed alternate route?
Does anyone know if that would stop all the legal battles or would it just shift to some other topic to maintain this moronatorium?
Does anyone know what the additional distance is on this proposed alternate route?
Does anyone know if that would stop all the legal battles or would it just shift to some other topic to maintain this moronatorium?
Darn those brats! | 4:06 p.m. Aug. 9, 2008
9 mile canyon is full of ancient Indian graffiti, probably the work of
delinquent teenagers, thousands thousands of years ago.
Earth First! | 7:54 p.m. Aug. 9, 2008
....We'll mine the other planets later!
RE: SPOC | 1:34 p.m. Aug. 10, 2008
Spoc, yes there are a couple of viable alternative routes. One is Trail Canyon
to Harmon Canyon. An improved road has recently been completed in Trail Canyon,
except for the last 3 or so miles that would connect it to Nine Mile. If those
remaining few miles could be improved, industrial traffic would merely have to
CROSS Nine Mile Road and head up Harmon Canyon which is already used as an
industrial access to the Tavaputs. Yes, there may be archaeological sites in
Trail Canyon and they would have to be identified and dealt with - but to
sacrifice the other 50+miles of the canyon instead is just plain stupid.
The Sunnyside route has also been offred. It is an existing industrial (mining) road that heads east from Sunnyside to the Tavaputs. The citizens of Sunnyside and East Carbon want this route to be used because it will help their struggling economies, but Carbon County won't push it. So as it is, ALL of the drilling is in Carbon County, but MOST of the workers go home to Duchesne County. If the Carbon County commissioners were smart they'd force the issue and infuse their community with more jobs/money.
The Sunnyside route has also been offred. It is an existing industrial (mining) road that heads east from Sunnyside to the Tavaputs. The citizens of Sunnyside and East Carbon want this route to be used because it will help their struggling economies, but Carbon County won't push it. So as it is, ALL of the drilling is in Carbon County, but MOST of the workers go home to Duchesne County. If the Carbon County commissioners were smart they'd force the issue and infuse their community with more jobs/money.
To Spoc | 4:39 p.m. Aug. 10, 2008
Spoc - thought for once someone was being level headed and seriously wanted
questions answered. Then I got to the "moronatorium" comment -your
mind's already been made so even the most common sense case presented to
you would do no good. The D News blogs seem to be a waste of time - everybody
just wants to voice their opinion but rarely seem interested in conversation.
Too bad.
bluebird | 12:06 a.m. Aug. 11, 2008
Lets ruin the earth now. Screw our grandchildren. What ever happened to the old
American spirit of we can find answers to our problems no limits, no ceilings
nothing can stop us. We can find ways to provide our energy needs by using
creativity. Oil is the lazy answer and is not the best answer.
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If you have to be a good player to be a good referee, is the opposite also...
Glen Beck for president with Sarah Palin as VP!
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umm, Springville beat Spanish Fork earlier this year big guy. just thought...
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A union rep salary should come from union dues!!! just like any other union rep.
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Someone needs to just get off their behinds and get parts of the canyon paved. Until then, I have to agree with the 9 Mile Coalition. The traffic in the canyon can only double or triple, with the number of new wells that are being proposed.