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Bishop to rejoin D.C. energy protest
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What a hero!! | 12:24 a.m. Aug. 5, 2008
Of course you went back because you know that you will be fired come the next
election for doing nothing when you all had the control of the congress! Shame
on you for putting on a show now to cover up your past inactions!
Reason | 1:24 a.m. Aug. 5, 2008
Good for Rep. Bishop. Ever since his days as a Utah legislator,
I�ve had great respect for Rob Bishop. He is a rare breed
� a true principled statesman who respects the
Constitution. I have the impression that, rather than trusting Washington to
solve people�s problems, he trusts people to solve their
own problems, and wants Washington to back off and get out of the way.
Kirk Steele | 2:49 a.m. Aug. 5, 2008
I fully support and applaud Congressman Bishop's actions. I have had the
opportunity to spend some time one-on-one with him and question him at length
about his personal political philosophy. I firmly believe that he has the best
interests of his constituents at heart. When he says that he is concerned about
the impact of high oil prices on low-income families he really means it.
Congressman Bishop is truly focused on selflessly serving his constituents.
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Oh good grief! | 3:44 a.m. Aug. 5, 2008
What a hero...that was a terribly judgement call and you know it.
Go get a donut!
Go get a donut!
What a jerk! | 5:23 a.m. Aug. 5, 2008
His family should come first. Instead of that, he's participating in a
stupid political ploy. I'm ashamed that he represents my District (and
yes, I'm working to kick him out in November . . . not that it will do all
that much good in Davis County). He's an embarrassment.
lost in DC | 5:45 a.m. Aug. 5, 2008
It was when Nancy and Harry had control of both houses of congress that oil
prices skyrocketed. What a pair of twits!
Paul in MD | 5:52 a.m. Aug. 5, 2008
I assume you are talking about the Republicans having control of Congress and
the Senate. They haven't had the majority for a couple of years. Before
that, they had the majority for about 10 years. Before that, the Democrats had
the majority for about 40 years.
Responsibility for inaction rests equally on both parties. It wasn't all that long ago that bipartisan action was fairly routine. Everyone wanted essentially the same thing, but had different ideas of how to get there. Compromise worked.
But now no one wants to share credit for getting things done. They all want the credit for their own party and no one else. In some cases, a party will fight against some plan when in the minority, then fight FOR it once they gain power.
Bishop has only been in Congress for a few years, so to lay this all on him is pretty petty.
Responsibility for inaction rests equally on both parties. It wasn't all that long ago that bipartisan action was fairly routine. Everyone wanted essentially the same thing, but had different ideas of how to get there. Compromise worked.
But now no one wants to share credit for getting things done. They all want the credit for their own party and no one else. In some cases, a party will fight against some plan when in the minority, then fight FOR it once they gain power.
Bishop has only been in Congress for a few years, so to lay this all on him is pretty petty.
Cathy | 6:27 a.m. Aug. 5, 2008
Bishop is a Republican and Republicans don't "control" Congress
at this time. That's why they are "putting on a show" in protest
of Democratic closure without compromising on a solution to the energy problem.
To What a hero!! | 6:28 a.m. Aug. 5, 2008
Um, not sure why you think Bishop should be fired. He's been the most
proactive member of the Utah delegation on this issue. He's crafted his
own bill, spoken numerous times, and been a real leader. The Dem's have
erased (or at least sought to) most of the gains made by House republicans in
years passed. Bishop has been a staunch defender of our energy independence. As
this debate moves forward, you'll only see more clearly how invaluable he
has been to first district in protecting our interests. Sad to see the political
trolls on this board so early this morning.
TREASONOUS PELOSI | 6:44 a.m. Aug. 5, 2008
It's treasonons that "Queen" Nancy Pelosi won't allow a vote
to be held. That's all. Just have a vote and let the chips fall where
they may. But no, she's acting like Congress is her personal Politboro...
and she rules with an Iron Fist... Even shutting out the lights and turning off
the C-SPAN Cameras. Liberals are such hypocrites. They're all for free
speech (particularly for Terrorists in GITMO), but are for shutting it down when
it contradicts their elitist liberal views. She's happy that the US is
having to conserve.... she wants $7 a gallon gas to force us to "save the
planet" (her words) from ourselves. So we'll keep sending $700
billion a year to Hugh Chavez and Arabs...and the poor and middle class she
claims to care so much about will continue to suffer. She's worth $50
million herself; not painful for her. Bishop is right-on!! She should have a
vote and live with the consequences. Anything less is anti-democratic!!!!
Hate Jerks Who Don't Have Clue | 6:49 a.m. Aug. 5, 2008
Democrats have traditionally been in bed with the extreme environmentalists
(like SUWA) who routinely sue oil companies from drilling in
"sensitive" lands. To them, every where is sensitive. Democrats have
blocked ANWR votes every Congress for the past 15 years. Democrats control
Congress today. They could have a vote, but both Pelosi and Reid refuse to
schedule one. I think most middle-class Americans are getting fed-up with
having to pay $4 a gallon gas and cutting into their monthly budgets... and
Congressional Democrats blocking any common-sense solution... Instead, they tell
us to "walk more," "take mass transit," maybe put a windmill
on our back yard and change our light-bulbs. They're in such la-la land.
Get real! We need all types of energy, and including, yes, domestic OIl and Gas
production. DRILL!!!
Both parties guilty of inaction | 7:09 a.m. Aug. 5, 2008
The current "energy crisis" is the result of inaction by both parties
over the years. To wait until the issue became substantial is regrettable by
both parties. What is important now is what comes next. I for one think we
should drill responsibly offshore and in ANWR. At the same time we should
continue research in alternative forms of energy (anything but ethanol, which in
my opinion costs more energy to produce than it saves, and inflates food prices
as a detrimental side-effect), fuel efficiency ratings in automobiles, and more
energy efficient appliances, etc... While a political stunt at least the
Republicans are bringing the issue to the forefront while the Democrats, also
using a political ploy by allowing the offshore drilling ban to simply expire
during the current recess rather than having a vote taken where we would be able
to see where each Democrat stood in regards to this issue, are doing nothing.
Paul | 7:15 a.m. Aug. 5, 2008
Didn't Bishop go back, because the Energy Bill has some amendments having
to do with Energy Solutions? Someone has to pay for the wedding and farewell,
so I presume that was the reason for sticking around.
Cats | 7:15 a.m. Aug. 5, 2008
If you want more of Nancy Pelosi and her absurd energy policies, be sure to vote
for Jim Matheson this fall. By electing any candidate with a (D) next to
his/her name, you will make it possible for Pelosi to stay in power.
childish behaviors | 7:19 a.m. Aug. 5, 2008
�Treasonous Pelosi� you seem to not
want to face the fact that the congress ended on a vote to close debate and go
to fall recess. Pelosi did not just decide to end the session on her own whim as
you would have us believe. Secondly, if you go back and read the article the
republicans have also moved to block bills but forward by the democrats
throughout this session related to energy prices. Lets face if this where
democrats doing the same thing three years ago in a republican controlled house
(which by the way would not allow numerous bills by democrats to move forward)
you would all be on here complaining about how democrats are just throwing a fit
because they did not get their way and do not get they are not in the majority
by the will of the people. Go a head and blast me but it is true weather you
like it or not.
Cougar Blue | 7:22 a.m. Aug. 5, 2008
Why did the Repubs block 3 or 4 different energy bills designed to lower prices
just in the last couple of weeks? Oh, that's right, they enjoy good
theatre. If they were serious, then the oil companies should stop exporting 1.8
million barrels of gasoline and heating oil daily to foreign countries and use
it here at home. These figures taken from Department of Energy. But then, the
oil companies wouldn't stand for that either--and the Repubs carry their
water for them.
If words were spoken truly | 7:29 a.m. Aug. 5, 2008
Speaker: "The Chair recognizes the congressman from Big Oil."
Rob Bishop: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker ...."
Rob Bishop: "Thank you, Mr. Speaker ...."
To childish behaviors | 7:33 a.m. Aug. 5, 2008
I'm not sure you're comment merits a response, but you should have
made your title "childish spelling"... Good grief, learn how to spell!
Constituent | 7:35 a.m. Aug. 5, 2008
Too bad that these members of the House don't show the same commitment and
compassion for boarder guards Campos and Compien who are unjustly imprisoned by
Bush and his cronies for shooting a drug smuggler.
Jeremy Jensen | 7:37 a.m. Aug. 5, 2008
"It's treasonons that "Queen" Nancy Pelosi won't allow
a vote to be held."
Republicans have filibustered more legislation this session than any other session in history, which means, repeatedly, they haven't "allowed a vote to be held." So, according to your logic, the Republicans are far more treasonous than the Democrats.
The Republican assertion that offshore drilling in the US will significantly lower gas prices in the US is absurd. We won't see any of that oil for 10 years, and the amount we expect to find in the ocean is fairly small. Additionally, the idea that offshore drilling is a way to make us more energy independent is ridiculous. Republicans gloss over the fact that any oil we drill will just go on the world market, and will decrease the prices in China as much as it decreases the prices here.
So the Republicans want to exacerbate an environmental problem, and possibly endanger coastal tourism (which brings in billions), for the possibility of slightly lower prices ten years from now. What a joke!
Republicans have filibustered more legislation this session than any other session in history, which means, repeatedly, they haven't "allowed a vote to be held." So, according to your logic, the Republicans are far more treasonous than the Democrats.
The Republican assertion that offshore drilling in the US will significantly lower gas prices in the US is absurd. We won't see any of that oil for 10 years, and the amount we expect to find in the ocean is fairly small. Additionally, the idea that offshore drilling is a way to make us more energy independent is ridiculous. Republicans gloss over the fact that any oil we drill will just go on the world market, and will decrease the prices in China as much as it decreases the prices here.
So the Republicans want to exacerbate an environmental problem, and possibly endanger coastal tourism (which brings in billions), for the possibility of slightly lower prices ten years from now. What a joke!
To the Morons on this Board | 7:50 a.m. Aug. 5, 2008
childish behaviors: Your ill-informed regarding the process for adjourning. The
Speaker controls the Floor, the agenda, and the has the majority of the votes.
It was her party which brought the adjournment resolution to the Floor and voted
overwhelmingly in favor of it, as they couldn't take the heat in DC.
At least one of the Democrat bills seeking to reduce gas prices passed. It called for suspension of contributions to the SPR. The Admin stopped, but the action had no effect. The others were pretend legislation. They were not serious attempts to address the issue in meaningful way. The NPR-A is already open for leasing, but the process has been stalled by environmentalists. They have sued at every turn.
To Paul: your statement is a cynical low blow to an honorable legislator. There's no connection between Bishop's actions on this matter and Energy Solutions.
To What a Jerk: So Bishop returns to DC with the explicit blessing of his family on a matter of national importance and all you do is call him a "jerk." Bishop's priorities are right where they need to be: God, Family, and Country. He's got them in balance -- a true citizen legislator!
At least one of the Democrat bills seeking to reduce gas prices passed. It called for suspension of contributions to the SPR. The Admin stopped, but the action had no effect. The others were pretend legislation. They were not serious attempts to address the issue in meaningful way. The NPR-A is already open for leasing, but the process has been stalled by environmentalists. They have sued at every turn.
To Paul: your statement is a cynical low blow to an honorable legislator. There's no connection between Bishop's actions on this matter and Energy Solutions.
To What a Jerk: So Bishop returns to DC with the explicit blessing of his family on a matter of national importance and all you do is call him a "jerk." Bishop's priorities are right where they need to be: God, Family, and Country. He's got them in balance -- a true citizen legislator!
Reply to Childish | 7:57 a.m. Aug. 5, 2008
VIrtually everyone who covers the hill knows that there is highly likely a
simple majority vote (and growing every day) of members on both Republican and
Democratic side.. who support drilling at least off-shore. But Nancy Pelosi
refuses to allow a vote. She has that power as the Speaker of the House. It
would take two-thirds vote (not quite there yet) to get around her on procedural
grounds. So the fact that a majority support drilling, but she doesn't and
keeps blocking a vote, is the whole point. She's the top Democratic
leader, and yet, is anti-democratic with her machiavellian actions. Problem is,
we're all paying for her stupid ideologies at the gas pump. DRILL!!
The Rock | 7:56 a.m. Aug. 5, 2008
Good for Congressman Bishop and the other protesters.
What we have here is a patient who is starving to death (US economy) and doctor Pelosi tells the patient to conserve food. She will not allow anyone to grow more food than we are now growing. We can't go to locations where food is know to exist (stores). Nope, we have to search for it in other places.
If the Democrats really wanted us to transition from oil to other forms of energy, they should have required that all cars be equipped with dual fuel capability 5 years ago. Now oil is unaffordable, we have no choice but to buy it.
The only place Democrats want to drill is YOUR WALLET.
What we have here is a patient who is starving to death (US economy) and doctor Pelosi tells the patient to conserve food. She will not allow anyone to grow more food than we are now growing. We can't go to locations where food is know to exist (stores). Nope, we have to search for it in other places.
If the Democrats really wanted us to transition from oil to other forms of energy, they should have required that all cars be equipped with dual fuel capability 5 years ago. Now oil is unaffordable, we have no choice but to buy it.
The only place Democrats want to drill is YOUR WALLET.
To Jeremy | 8:00 a.m. Aug. 5, 2008
Earth to Jeremy, the House cannot filibuster. It's not in their rules.
Under the Rules of the House, Nancy calls the shots and sets the agenda. If she
wants to block something from coming to the Floor, she has all the power she
needs to do that. If she wants to bring something to the Floor, she can just ram
it through the Rules Committee like she's done for the last year and a
half.
Every global energy analyst has stated the issue is one of SUPPLY. The global demand for oil will ONLY increase. In the US we need to both conserve as well as produce more energy (of all types). If we don't do something now, we'll really be in a world of hurt in 10 years. Even talking about increasing drilling has helped bring the price oil down. Go back to Bush's rescinding the Executive Order on the OCS and see what has happened to the price of crude since then. Coastal tourism is a red herring. Without access to affordable energy folks can't afford to travel. The two are not mutually exlusive. You have to have affordable energy in order to have a strong tourism base.
Every global energy analyst has stated the issue is one of SUPPLY. The global demand for oil will ONLY increase. In the US we need to both conserve as well as produce more energy (of all types). If we don't do something now, we'll really be in a world of hurt in 10 years. Even talking about increasing drilling has helped bring the price oil down. Go back to Bush's rescinding the Executive Order on the OCS and see what has happened to the price of crude since then. Coastal tourism is a red herring. Without access to affordable energy folks can't afford to travel. The two are not mutually exlusive. You have to have affordable energy in order to have a strong tourism base.
Big Oil "Boogeyman" | 8:01 a.m. Aug. 5, 2008
Yes, lets continue to make Oil Companies the boogeyman here... let's tax
them out of existence, and not only will our 401 K plans go down, but we'll
end up with shortages. Maybe we can Nationalise our Oil Companies (like France
and Mexico tried to do) and experience the dismal failures that creates... Or,
here's another brilliant idea..let's avoid the real issue (needing to
drill for more supply).. by saying that it's the Speculators driving up the
cost (they can only do that if there is a short supply, duh!). Or better yet,
let's drain our National Emergency Reserve... and hope and pray there
isn't a real need for emergency supplies....All brilliant Democratic ideas
for our energy future.
Hey, Matheson's a Democrat | 8:05 a.m. Aug. 5, 2008
This has been educational reading all of these posts. But isn't Matheson a
Democrat? Where does he stand, does anyone know? Does he support more oil
drilling off-shore or in ANWR? If he does, can't he persuade
"his" party leader, Nancy Pelosi, to allow a vote? Just curious....
lost in DC | 8:35 a.m. Aug. 5, 2008
I don't believe Matheson has all the same positions as Nancy, but he has to
vote for her as speaker, otherwise he would get no cherry committee assignments.
Ah, the advantages of party affiliation.
And regardless of how they ended their session, it is Nanacy that will not allow a vote on off-shore drilling, because she knows it would pass. That's why she is viewed as a dictator.
And regardless of how they ended their session, it is Nanacy that will not allow a vote on off-shore drilling, because she knows it would pass. That's why she is viewed as a dictator.
Childish Behavior | 8:33 a.m. Aug. 5, 2008
�to the morons on this board� its
funny you would claim I am ill informed and then turn around and explain why I
was right. The fact that the
�majority� (yes, the democrats hold
the majority) of the house voted to adjourn session indicates that Pelosi did
not just act on her own as people on this board would have us believe and to
�reply to childish� if the
�majority� of the house agrees with
your position as you claim they could have blocked the closer of session, but
that�s alright shot the messenger it is easier then
actually facing reality.
Cats | 8:43 a.m. Aug. 5, 2008
Jim Matheson supports Nancy Pelosi. He helps her stay in power. Please,
don't be fooled by his assertion that he is a "conservative
Democrat." If he were conservative, he wouldn't be a Democrat. He
voted for Nancy Pelosi for Speaker and continues to support her.
IF YOU WANT A CONTINUATION OF NANCY PELOSI AND HER ENERGY POLICY, VOTE FOR JIM MATHESON IN NOVEMBER.
IF YOU WANT A CONTINUATION OF NANCY PELOSI AND HER ENERGY POLICY, VOTE FOR JIM MATHESON IN NOVEMBER.
alien | 8:44 a.m. Aug. 5, 2008
Who was it that left without song when the GOP left without deciding any
immigrant law. This is just stupid politics of chldren having another
sleepover.
MW | 8:55 a.m. Aug. 5, 2008
It's time that the democrats break their ties with the environmentalist
elites and for both parties to come together for the good of our nation to vote
for energy independence. In years past, this typically happens after the
elections are over and when the battles subside. It's too heated now and
too much is at stake for either side to give in. It's just a shame that
such small minorities have such short-sided views to over-ride practical, common
sense solutions.
Cats | 9:00 a.m. Aug. 5, 2008
To Alien: I agree with you. The Republicans dropped the ball on immigration.
But, this is a "red herring." The issue here is ENERGY. The
Democrats and their big environmentalist contributors are the main culprets this
time.
EJ | 9:01 a.m. Aug. 5, 2008
Matheson voted for this recess and against a discussion on the GOP energy bill-,
just like the rest of the dems. I don't care if he says he supports
drilling or not his actions are proving he doesn't want any solutions to
the $4.30 gas I am paying for.
Childish Behavior | 9:06 a.m. Aug. 5, 2008
You're sounding more and more like your moniker. Don't try and argue
semantics with me because you won't win! No one has claimed that Pelosi
shuttered the House on a whim, contrary to your assertion that we did so.
We've all acknowledged that she is the Speaker of the House. As such, she
controls the Floor and the flow of legislation. It was WITHIN HER power to
extend the House session and bring a meaningful energy bill to the Floor. She
did not do that. Instead she directed her deputy Steny Hoyer to make a motion
"that the House do now adjourn." A Roll Call vote was demanded, and
the resolution passed 213-197 with 15 Democrats voting against adjournment. As
the majority party's leader she, along with her colleagues in the
Democratic caucus (Jim Matheson included), is wholly responsible for the
adjournment and for not addressing the problem in a meaningful way.
Politics as usual | 9:09 a.m. Aug. 5, 2008
Why can't you all just face the fact that this is simply run of the mill
politics. The party in the minority (whichever one it is) can't control the
agenda, so they whine and snivel about it, as a symbolic gesture to their
supporters that they are trying to do something. They point fingers of blame
whenever possible, knowing full well that's all they can do because THEY
DON'T HAVE THE VOTES to do anything else. The reason they don't have
the votes is that Americans (displaying unusual intelligence in the present
example) voted them out of power. If you don't like the outcome, you can
vote to change it in November, but don't blame Nancy Pelosi. If anyone is
to blame (or to receive credit), it is the American public who went to the polls
and gave Pelosi a majority. Those of you whining on this board are no better
than the whining congressmen who should be home with their families. You
can't really do anything about it, so you complain. Both in your case, and
with the congressmen, there is one simple problem. It does no good to whine when
nobody is listening.
Matthew | 9:12 a.m. Aug. 5, 2008
The current energy situation is the fault of the American people. We
collectively abandoned our efforts at conservation and development of
alternative energy that were begun in the 1970s. The current price of oil is
just approaching its true value. Escalating drilling isn't the solution.
It would be a continuation of the mistakes of the past 25 years. It would be a
vain attempt to delay the inevitable.
Childish Behavior | 9:19 a.m. Aug. 5, 2008
the fact that someone just posted under the name I have been using childish
behavior 9:06 a.m. just proved my point about peoples behaviors. if you are
still not convinced this is childish behavior I will submit one last thought
before going, think about the fact that s republican senators decided that the
mature way to act on the house floor was to walk around holding a picture of a
VW with a sail on top and saying "look at me I am a democrat and this is my
idea of energy policy." funny? Alright maybe, childish? Yes. Anyway have
fun throwing your fit!
We want drilling | 9:20 a.m. Aug. 5, 2008
The fact of the matter is that over 60% of Americans want to drill for more oil
domestically. Congress is supposed to represent the people. The democrats are
just representing themselves obviously.
What I don't understand is that according to the left, we should not drill because we are helping to destroy the planet. Isn't the planet being destroyed already by foreign oil countries? If we can move oil drilling to our own back yard, at least we would be the ones in control, we would bring more jobs and be more self-sufficient. Sounds like the lesser of two evils to me.
Bottom line is, THE PEOPLE want to drill. These Republicans are supporting the people, the Democrats are not.
What I don't understand is that according to the left, we should not drill because we are helping to destroy the planet. Isn't the planet being destroyed already by foreign oil countries? If we can move oil drilling to our own back yard, at least we would be the ones in control, we would bring more jobs and be more self-sufficient. Sounds like the lesser of two evils to me.
Bottom line is, THE PEOPLE want to drill. These Republicans are supporting the people, the Democrats are not.
By George | 9:24 a.m. Aug. 5, 2008
DEMAND MATHESON to publicly (and in the House) support drilling offshore and in
ANWR...otherwise dump him. It is totally obvious the dems do not care about the
economic situation of the working people they supposedly protect - nor do they
care about increased prices for food or anything else that is transported by
gasoline driven vehicles. They care more about environmental extremists. DRILL
NOW and build nuclear power plants. Hopefully the voters of Nevada will dump
Reid when he comes up for election.
This debate has run it's course | 9:33 a.m. Aug. 5, 2008
The remarks on this board reflect about what we're seeing in the polls
(actual scientific studies):
67 percent support drilling in the OCS if it can be done in an "environmentally friendly" manner.
Those who don't are insane environmentalists who want us to "drive small cars and wait for the wind" (The Official Democrat Energy Plan).
I think that has been fairly well reflected in today's posts.
Farewell to all!
67 percent support drilling in the OCS if it can be done in an "environmentally friendly" manner.
Those who don't are insane environmentalists who want us to "drive small cars and wait for the wind" (The Official Democrat Energy Plan).
I think that has been fairly well reflected in today's posts.
Farewell to all!
To the Real Childish Behavior | 9:37 a.m. Aug. 5, 2008
They're members of the "House of Representatives," not
"Senators." So you got a problem with good old fashion debate, huh!
If it's clever (and not otherwise offensive or off color), expresses your
point, and helps people to remember what you said, then it's fair game in
my book. That particular Congressman was only mocking what the D's real
energy plan is: "Drive small cars and wait for the wind." That is a
statement of fact which deserves mockery and scorn, especially when considering
the dire condition the middle class and the poor currently find themselves in.
Bishop's Folly | 9:41 a.m. Aug. 5, 2008
Efforts to remove the ban on drilling for oil off parts of the U.S. coastline
are built on a fundamental distortion of fact: the claim that more drilling
would significantly reduce gas prices.
The Bush administration's own Department of Energy states in its published reports that drilling off our coasts would have no significant impact on gasoline prices - not in the short term, not in the long term.
The real impact of offshore drilling would be to increase our dependence on oil and produce more global warming pollution.
This "energy protest" is nothing more than a petty political maneuver on the part of Rob Bishop and his fellow republicans.
The Bush administration's own Department of Energy states in its published reports that drilling off our coasts would have no significant impact on gasoline prices - not in the short term, not in the long term.
The real impact of offshore drilling would be to increase our dependence on oil and produce more global warming pollution.
This "energy protest" is nothing more than a petty political maneuver on the part of Rob Bishop and his fellow republicans.
By George | 10:04 a.m. Aug. 5, 2008
To Bishop's Folly:
Do you ignore the decrease in prices since Bush cancelled the Executive Order prohibiting off shore drilling? If Congress perpetuates the ban, the markets will raise prices again believing the U.S. will not be increasing the supply. We need to increase oil production while also developing alternative sources of energy. I have more news for you: Global warming is a farce.
Do you ignore the decrease in prices since Bush cancelled the Executive Order prohibiting off shore drilling? If Congress perpetuates the ban, the markets will raise prices again believing the U.S. will not be increasing the supply. We need to increase oil production while also developing alternative sources of energy. I have more news for you: Global warming is a farce.
re: Bishop's Folly | 10:02 a.m. Aug. 5, 2008
Have you forgotten that oil prices are largely a futures market? That's
why the prices jump instantly in response to action that has the potential to
threaten the supply years from now.
Please provide specifics on your DOE statement. I just reread the DOE's statement dated July 14 urging Congress to repeal the ban of drilling on America's Outer Continental Shelf which has the potentil of producing 18 billion barrels.
It seems to contradict what you said they said. Do you have a citation?
Please provide specifics on your DOE statement. I just reread the DOE's statement dated July 14 urging Congress to repeal the ban of drilling on America's Outer Continental Shelf which has the potentil of producing 18 billion barrels.
It seems to contradict what you said they said. Do you have a citation?
Re: Bishop's Folly | 10:08 a.m. Aug. 5, 2008
"
The Bush administration's own Department of Energy states in its published reports that drilling off our coasts would have no significant impact on gasoline prices - not in the short term, not in the long term."
Who cares? Last I checked, the American public decides what they want for this country, not Bush, not Pelosi, not the Department of Energy.
If the planet explodes, or we get no cheaper gas prices because the public wanted to drill, then so be it. IT IS OUR CHOICE, NOT THE GOVERNMENT.
This is why these socialists want the government to decide what's best for us. They want all the power for themselves, not in the hands of the people.
The Bush administration's own Department of Energy states in its published reports that drilling off our coasts would have no significant impact on gasoline prices - not in the short term, not in the long term."
Who cares? Last I checked, the American public decides what they want for this country, not Bush, not Pelosi, not the Department of Energy.
If the planet explodes, or we get no cheaper gas prices because the public wanted to drill, then so be it. IT IS OUR CHOICE, NOT THE GOVERNMENT.
This is why these socialists want the government to decide what's best for us. They want all the power for themselves, not in the hands of the people.
Oh Please | 10:17 a.m. Aug. 5, 2008
Cut the grandstanding, Rob. Oil has dropped $35 bbl in the last month without
your intervention. You can calm down now and come home.
Dump Matheson!!! | 10:20 a.m. Aug. 5, 2008
The only way to send the Democrats a message they understand is to threaten them
with the loss of political power. That's the only way they will get the
message.
We need to put some of their "safe" seats in play. If the people of Utah dump Matheson and the people of the rest of the U.S. do the same to 20 or 30 more like him, Pelosi will get the message.
We need to put some of their "safe" seats in play. If the people of Utah dump Matheson and the people of the rest of the U.S. do the same to 20 or 30 more like him, Pelosi will get the message.
Tommie | 10:31 a.m. Aug. 5, 2008
Those against this protest:
Let me remind you that gas wasn't this high when the Republicans were in control. We still need to start drilling here, we can't stay dependent on these other countries.
Stop attacking the Republicans, at least they are doing something, which is more than can be said about this entire Democratic Congressional season.
The Democrats haven't actually done anything to drop the prices, all they have are ridiculous tax plans for oil prices, yeah like that is going to lower the prices, talk about seeing them skyrocket.
To "oh Please":
Oh please is right, $35 is not near low enough. Prices are still way to high, so you can rethink your statement.
Let me remind you that gas wasn't this high when the Republicans were in control. We still need to start drilling here, we can't stay dependent on these other countries.
Stop attacking the Republicans, at least they are doing something, which is more than can be said about this entire Democratic Congressional season.
The Democrats haven't actually done anything to drop the prices, all they have are ridiculous tax plans for oil prices, yeah like that is going to lower the prices, talk about seeing them skyrocket.
To "oh Please":
Oh please is right, $35 is not near low enough. Prices are still way to high, so you can rethink your statement.
UTim | 10:33 a.m. Aug. 5, 2008
I love all this new-found Republican false populism - all of the sudden the GOP
is the party of the little guy? Puh-leez! Oh yeah - we need to drill offshore
and in wildlife refuges to help "poor people." Sure... Meanwhile,
industry holds 60 million acres of valid leases they're not drilling and
Questar is capping wells to inflate prices.
Yes, Mr Nuke lobbyist, we all believe you when you say you like weeding too... Hilarious!
Yes, Mr Nuke lobbyist, we all believe you when you say you like weeding too... Hilarious!
Re: Bishop's Folly | 10:39 a.m. Aug. 5, 2008
According to CBS news
"Reality Check On Offshore Drilling" (google it)
According to the federal government's own Department of Energy, drilling off America's coasts would not have a significant impact on domestic oil production or prices before 2030. And off-shore leasing wouldn't even begin before 2012.
Why? Because the leasing process is cumbersome. And currently, there aren't enough rigs or workers or refineries to handle more oil.
Then there's this. Most of the U.S. offshore oil, almost 10 billion barrels, lie off the coast of California. But at the current rate of U.S. consumption - about 20.7 million barrels a day - that would be burned up in 16 months.
"Reality Check On Offshore Drilling" (google it)
According to the federal government's own Department of Energy, drilling off America's coasts would not have a significant impact on domestic oil production or prices before 2030. And off-shore leasing wouldn't even begin before 2012.
Why? Because the leasing process is cumbersome. And currently, there aren't enough rigs or workers or refineries to handle more oil.
Then there's this. Most of the U.S. offshore oil, almost 10 billion barrels, lie off the coast of California. But at the current rate of U.S. consumption - about 20.7 million barrels a day - that would be burned up in 16 months.
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