Barack claims he is only increasing taxes on those who make over $250k a year,
but what he is not saying out loud, is he is also going to reverse the Bush tax
cuts first... that will give everybody who makes over $42k a year a tax
INCREASE... Barack is a LIAR!
Anon -- sticks 'n' stones, big guy. Preach to the choir and call names all you
want, but until you learn to actually address the arguments, whatever advantage
you get from a bad Republican moment is going to be very temporary.
"Barack" is not the name of prophet's horse. It is "Burack" the name of
horse.Barack doesn't mean "lightning" also!Refer atleast
wikipedia!what a SICK argument!
Mr. Anonymous doesn't seem to know that Neocons are recovering Democrats who
resent their party being shanghaied by single issue lefties and social
Oscar | 6:13 p.m.: "wrz writes like he transcribing from a recording that plays
the same thing over and over and over. He's the only person who is hooked on
Obama's middle name as something other than what it is: a middle name as a
honorific to his father..."What I want for a president is someone
who is proud of his name... including his middle name. If B. Hussein Obama is
not proud of his middle name I want to know about it and the reasons why. The
guy needs to be vetted in every aspect of his life. And it's only smart to do
it before he becomes pres."It is sure that wrz has a middle name
that honors someone, that is, if he has one."I'm not running for the
highest office in the land of the greatest nation on God's green earth.
Anonymous | 3:54 p.m.: "wrz - Depends on what side of the fence you are talking
about. Things are looking more positive than they have for some time."Don't be fooled. B. Hussein Obama's "hope" and "change" are for his brothers
and sisters to take over more of the country."(and I'm NOT talking
about Dick and Lynn Cheney's Halliburton and Lockheed Martin)"What
have you against Halliburton and Lockheed? These firms are indispensable to the
well-being of the US. Their contracts are constantly watched over by DCAA and
GAO. I have first hand info."America desperately needs hope."America has hope. Lots of hope. What America needs is for the
nay-sayers to stop nay-saying. Who are the nay-sayers? Generally Bush haters
and nay-sayers are the same group.
The modern American conservative movement is on its last legs. Only the
ridiculous postings of Thomas and his neocon ilk remain. And their only goal is
to tune in to Rush Limbaugh one more day.
Oscar, welcome to the ad hominem club. Seems to be all the "logic" your side is
capable of serving up.I challenge you to come up with *one* instance
in which I've "fabricated" information, you slandering son of a motherless goat.
Where I come from, calling a man a liar is a serious thing -- something an
honorable man would no sooner do without cause than he would lie himself. Maybe
not in your neighborhood. Serious students of history recognize the
seventies as the high tide of American liberalism, where even Republican
presidents like "We're all Keynesians now" Nixon embraced things like price
controls that were well to the left of the modern Democratic agenda. That's
entirely apart from the latter half of the seventies, which James Earl Carter
presided so spectacularly over.And thank you *so* much for that
expert psychoanalysis. Could you do me the favor next time of actually
addressing the argument?
This must be the comic section of the newspaper with the wittisms of wrz
(whoever he is) and Thomas. One can always know what they will say on the
subject without having to read what they write.wrz writes like he
transcribing from a recording that plays the same thing over and over and over.
He's the only person who is hooked on Obama's middle name as something other
than what it is: a middle name as a honorific to his father. It is sure that
wrz has a middle name that honors someone, that is, if he has one.And Thomas is always hollering and yelling as if his life were in peril. His
bringing up the 70s forgets to mention, from a political perspective, that the
70s were the years of Nixon and Ford. But then, Thomas believes, apparently,
that anything not part of a Far-Right Conservative agenda is a bad thing.So he insults and fabricates information to support his opinion because
his identity is too tied up with the Cheney/Bush world. His self-esteem appears
to depend upon people embracing his world-view and acknowledging the "truth"
that he pretends to hold.There's nothing else.
I know Anon likes his mindless soundbites -- "McSame" and all that -- but the
fact is that the United States *changed* its course in Iraq (to the course
recommended by John McCain), and the course changed worked: We finally got a
decent counterinsurgency strategy, run by a general who understood
counterinsurgency, with enough troops to carry it out, and Michael Moore's noble
civilian-butchering "Minutemen" are finished. Even the AP and New York Times
are admitting it.Only a fool "stays the course" when the course is
clearly wrong. It's equally foolish to conclude that because one course failed,
the whole enterprise is doomed. (Sen. Reid, about that "The war is lost!" panic
of yours a few months back..."Change course, by all means, but for
heaven's sake, not back to the seventies. When you're going down a wrong road,
going back to a road you found out was the wrong road thirty years ago makes no
sense whatsoever. Vote for James Earl Obama and bring back bell
bottoms, gas lines, "The Six Million Dollar Man," and ABBA. (Maybe it wouldn't
be *all* bad.)
wrz -Depends on what side of the fence you are talking about.Things
are looking more positive than they have for some time. (and I'm NOT talking
about Dick and Lynn Cheney's Halliburton and Lockheed Martin)America
desperately needs hope.
Barack's middle name is an old Muslim name. Same name as his Muslim father from
Kenya. And same name as a murderous killer who once ruled in the mid-east.I wonder if "Obama" was actually "Osama" at one point in history.If so, what a legacy.Run for cover. It's too big for anyone
Anonymous @ 12:41 p.m.: "Sorry Thomas.But you simply cannot find too many
Americans who believe we should be 'staying the course.'"I say
stay the course. The grass is never greener on the other side of the fence.
Oh brother | 6:57 a.m.: "Wow, then Barack is most certainly a terrorist! Be
afraid - be very, very afraid!"Good advice. I see that the
terrorists are cheering for B. Hussein Obama. Can't imagine why. I think he
prefers the Reverend Wright's style of church.
In other pointless news, did anyone know that Cindy McCain's middle name is
@ Jud: Darn, I like that story about Mohammad rising into heaven on his
charger, and I am particularly fond of horses named Lightening. You took all the
romance and beauty out of the name. Blessed is not bad, just not as good.
Sorry, Thomas.But you simply cannot find too many Americans who believe we
should be "staying the course."(outside of Utah that is)
thanks for the reality check Jud, that taked all the fun out of it.
I dont' even know why these posts about a person's name are being published.
They have ZERO relevance for anything. Deseret Morning News is slowing reaching
Actually, BARACK is an Arabic word meaning "blessed." The final consonant in the
Arabic word for lightning is a glottal sound represented by Q. The word for
lightning is BARAQ, not BARACK. Different consonant.
Agki -- Unfortunately, Barack Obama is either going to have to break his promise
to limit tax hikes to those making more than $250,000, or break his promises to
expand spending in other areas. As much of the income tax as the rich are
already paying, there's simply not enough taxable income in the above-$250K
bracket to finance everything Barack has proposed.But hey -- Hope
and Change. Just say the words, and everything will be better.
hey I thought Rush was the name of a band and a Newt was a small fuzzy animal.
Worried about Obama raising taxes then someone explain to me how the Federal
Debt is going to be paid if not. In the paper this a.m. Federal Deficit all
time high approaching $490billion dollars -- Obama is not responsible for this
the Bush Regime is but who ever becomes President will have to find a way to pay
up and guess what folks it will have to be higher taxes unless God blesses us
with manna(money) from heaven.
I thought Rush and Newt were funny names.
Aslam: " Obama (what ever first and middle name you want to use) plans to raise
taxes across the board, basically ruining any chance for an economic
recovery."Where did you hear that Obama wanted to raise taxes
"across the board"? You seem to have been listening to Rush way too much. If
you would bother to check the facts, you would have found that there are no tax
increases for people making less than $250,000 per year, that's about 98% of us
and certainly includes me and probably you! He also wants to eliminate taxes on
retirees making less than $35,000 per year. Why can't you people
check your facts before you start complaining?
A letter like this will never convince the "on the fence voter" to vote for John
McCain. This letter only reinforces bigotry.
I wonder how Obama's tax plan will affect him and Michelle. It seems to me that
he has a lot to lose with his plan.
This is the sort of insane claptrap that is out there today.The Neocon movement wants total division and use "the liberals" as their new
internal enemy.Just listen to Limbaugh to see how they are trying to
I think IMA D is correct to a point, I think we all need to take a step back and
realize that we have all become a part of the problem with or ideological hard
lines on every issue. Neither party has the corner on blame or credit for the
things that have gone right or the things that have gone wrong. If you want more
of the same thing keep doing what your doing, stay locked in your ideological
box. No one party, person or idea can move this country ahead alone.
To: Cats: The Great Depression was caused by the fat cats who know how to
manipulate the entire economic situation to their advantage.Just
like they're are doing today.
Obama isn't going to raise taxes across the board. The simple people that
believe this need to go and inform themselves about what is really going on.
It's all right there on Obama's web site. But why do the work yourself when a
talk radio hack can do all your thinking for you?As for the name
thing, I won't vote for John McCain because he has the same name as John Wayne
Gacy, who murdered more than 30 people. Because he has that name, John McCain is
also a serial murderer. This makes absolute sense.
Mr. Suminson, you listen to too much Limbaugh and Hannity. Next time write a
Let's jsut get the republicrats out of the White House. McCain is a bit smarter
than Bush but he is way old school. THis country needs a change and McCain is
To Anonymous: The Great Depression was caused by the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act
and a failure of the Federal Reserve to recognize the emergency that existed and
cut loose with some increased money supply. And, in fact, the resulting trade
war eventually lead to World War II. That's just a matter of History.
Trickle-down economics had nothing to do with it.
To quote a republican hero there you go again playing loose and fast with the
word fact again cats do you care to supply evidence for your claim, this one
should actually be a little easier to prove.
The reason trickle down economics fails is not really that hard to understand.
When the wealth becomes centralized the people that control the wealth can only
consume a finite amount of goods. They then have a choice, hold onto the rest or
invest back into their businesses if they own them. The problem is that by this
point the economy is sliding because most people lack the money to consume the
goods that are being manufactured and imported already so the people with the
money become tentative to reinvest in industry for fear of losing their
investment. Trickle down economics is not evil it is just like every other
economic plan (yes, including socialism) that they look great on paper but get
lost in translation. We must continue to work to find a hybrid balance between
many economic theories and will unlikely ever find that perfect solution.
You want to talk about economic train wrecks lets talk about trickle down
economics and how they have failed miserably three times in the past hundred
years. Leading to the great depression, the second largest down turn during the
1980s and now. Please I could use the same silly logic with the republicans,
take money away from hard working Americans that actually produce the goods our
economy needs and give it to the rich so that they can sock it away rather then
reinvest in industry. Trickle down economics has always failed and always will.
I'm going to print and save your letter about Obama's tax plan. We'll see if
your taxes really go down, and if those under $50,000 really end up paying no
taxes. If this, or anything remotely resembling this happens you have my
appologies. Otherwise I will put on my liberal suit and come and sell you some
ocean front property in Nevada. The democrat dna requires a promise of a tax
increase to the evil rich (someone else) and a gift from the government to you.
Phase 2 says that if you are able to support yourself and your family (number of
jobs required to do this does not matter) you are one of the evil rich and will
be taxed more. The resulting economic train wreck is not their fault because
their motives were pure.
The letter is really stupid and pointless. However, it is true that Obama plans
to raise taxes which is the worst thing anyone can do when heading into an
economic downturn. Also, raising capital gains taxes is the surest way to make
sure that no capital gets formed to start new enterprises and create jobs. That
capital will flee overseas instead.I actually think that Obama is a
nice guy, but the man is a genuine, certifiable LIGHTWEIGHT. He has no
experience and no accomplishments, not to mention being left-wing off the chart.
I hope that people wake up to these facts before election day.
Any experts out there know what Obama "really believes"? Or is this name thing
part of his "real history"? Never let the man explain himself, right?
Ms/Mr Aslam --- you must have received that right wing nut email that has been
sent around about Obama's tax plan???? Well, I hate to burst your bubble -- it
ain't true!!!! According to Obama's economic plan, my taxes would decrease
$1,000 from the present rate and if you are on social security and have an
income under $50,000, you'd pay no federal income tax at all. By the way, I hope
you didn't fall for that former Nigerian dictator's email -- you know, the one
where he has a fortune waiting for you
Let me see, Obama (what ever first and middle name you want to use) plans to
raise taxes across the board, basically ruining any chance for an economic
recovery. He has promised, by some accounts, almost $1 trillion in new spending
programs. He has promised to remove all troops from Iraq within 16 months, now
he is hedging that one. He has promised to socialize medicine like they have in
the UK and Cuba. I fear that far, FAR more than I do his middle
name. Or that he shares the same name as a horse.
oops, that right the childish behavior started with the letter writer. It is a
little frightening to think that this person is a part of the voting public.
This is the exact reason that I'm voting for him.
Wow, then Barack is most certainly a terrorist! Be afraid - be very, very
Not too interesting.
let the childish behavior begin
What is the point of this letter?
Hmmm... yet another attempt to link Obama as much as possible with anything
Muslim?We saw the same occur with issues raised about Kennedy's
Catholic membership and, something closer to home, Romney's LDS status.