It's Kavin Season | 12:17 a.m. July 25, 2008
You may think Kavin season is over, but hopefully it's just begun. Now is the time! Come on Kavin, let's improve our team. Sign C.J. and put a deal together to improve our team defensively down low. That's all we need.
If Jerry can't ..... | 12:19 a.m. July 25, 2008
...develope young talent like C.J., Price, Milsap, and Brewer than maybe it's time to put Jerry in the Geriatric unit of some NBA nursing home.
Paymon | 12:50 a.m. July 25, 2008
I hope the jazz dont sign cj miles to a long term contract. let him go PLEASE!!! he is too immature to play under sloan anyways. and on other topic, did jason hart think he would come in and start or play big minutes when he signed with the jazz? we have someone who is a little tiny bit better in deron williams. and if he was truly sorry for being so bad he would have opted out of his contract, i know its a business and everything but still he could have opted and signed with clippers.
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Who's this Greg Miller?? | 1:20 a.m. July 25, 2008
I've heard of Larry, Lewis, Thaine, Trent, Todd, Tyler, Tim, Travis, and Tracy, but who is this Greg guy? More importantly, can he pull the trigger on the moves that Larry couldn't quite do in the past?
Trade Collins... | 1:28 a.m. July 25, 2008
...to the any team for a couple dancers and an usher. Throw in Knight to make the the contracts work..
Greg is.. | 1:32 a.m. July 25, 2008
Larry's son

Who is Lewis?
rvalens2 | 1:51 a.m. July 25, 2008
Okay Jazz fans, here's your chance to play GM for the next few hours and make the BIG decision.

Will the Jazz match Oklahoma City's offer and keep C.J. Miles?

Okay ... I'll step out on the limb first.

They'll match the offer and keep him.

If I'm right, I'll be back and explain why I think keeping him was the smart move. If not, I'll walk away with egg on my face. :o(

How 'bout you Jimmy's Sneakers. Care to make a prediction?
Sign CJ | 1:51 a.m. July 25, 2008
CJ is an outstanding talent with a huge upside. He is athletic, a good defender and has terrific range. He could very easily become a star in this league if given the chance.

CJ can play both 2 and 3. He can create his own shot off the dribble and commands respect from 3 which stretches the defense.

Can Almond fill CJ's shoes? NO. Almond doesn't play defense, isn't as long, isn't as athletic and isn't a team player.

SIGN CJ!
Buckeye Fan | 6:17 a.m. July 25, 2008
Initially, I felt that the contract offer for CJ was a little more than what the Jazz would want to match, thus letting him go. But after watching Almond in the RMR, I am not that impressed that he is going to make an impact in the NBA. He doesn't play above the rim and defensively is not ready. At least with CJ you have the capability of being explosive. If the Jazz can manage this contract I think they should match it. Korver is a ? mark after next year. I think he may want to opt out for a team back East. Collins will be gone and possibly Knight also freeing up more money. Just haven't been impressed with Almond. Like Harpring said last night, half the shots he took last night won't be there when the season starts.

Fez sucks!! The kid just doesn't get it. Another year in the D league and then he's gone. Frees up another contract.

I say sign Miles and things will look better for 2009.
JazzFanInHouston | 6:22 a.m. July 25, 2008
If the Jazz sign CJ they can't trade him this year (league rules). If they do sign him for 4 Mil they are paying 4 Mil to stay at the same level as last year. Further, they may not be able to trade him for 4 Mil after this year.

It may be better to take the 4 mil and get people who will improve the club. Is CJ the best player the Jazz could get for 4 Mil at any position?

NO and Houston are better than last year. LA will be about the same. SA may be better. This year (salary cap)is the best year for the Jazz to win but they have to get better.

Fes,Koufos and Almond will not be a lot of help this year. We need defensive help in the middle and someone who can defend at 2/3 and back up 3.

Take the 4 Mil and improve the team.
There is no one better | 7:02 a.m. July 25, 2008
at 4 mil a year, there is no one better to fill the spot you are looking for. Miles could very likely fill role of backing up the 2/3 and defending. He needs some game-time to improve his defense (as did Brewer last year), but he can do it as good as anyone who would get that kind of $.
Don't match the offer | 7:12 a.m. July 25, 2008
CJ will just cause problems if he is here. There's not enough minutes to appease Brewer, Korver, and Miles. He will just complain that he's not getting enough playing time. Don't match the offer.
Sign C. J. | 7:52 a.m. July 25, 2008
Mo Almond hasn't seen a man open yet. Korver tries but his feet and legs don't move quick enough to play good defense. C. J. is alot better than the jazz have wanted people to know. They've tried to keep his talent hidden until after this signing. C.J. was also very effective playing the 3 when Harpring or A.K. were hurt. I'm not sure how effective Harpring will be this year with his knees and all and A. K. could go on a sulk fest at any time. KEEP C. J.
JazzFanInHouston | 8:04 a.m. July 25, 2008
Why not let CJ go and pick up Elton Brown (age 24), 6,9, 255 lb. forward who averaged 13.5 points and 10 rebounds in summer league? He will cost a lot less than 4 mil.

Brown would be cheap insurance for Harp. CJ is pretty similar to Korver, Brewer and Almond. The Jazz already decided that CJ was not the answer when they started Brewer and got Korver.
Keep CJ | 8:08 a.m. July 25, 2008
CJ miles is an NBA starter in the making. If Kirilenko wasn't in front of him, CJ would have started all year. When AK was out who stepped up?

I truly believe that we should trade AK for expiring contracts and a shot blocker, sign CJ, give Almond more PT and grow internally.

Personally I like the 2-3 line up of Brewer, CJ, Almond, Harpring and Korver. And I'm tired of AK turning the ball over constantly.



He's Gone | 8:12 a.m. July 25, 2008
Good luck C.J. maybe your experience here in Utah will ring a bell for you. Work hard, stay in shape and you might make it. A change of attitude wouldn't hurt either. A good young man that hasn't figured out what it takes is all it is.
Sign CJ, | 8:16 a.m. July 25, 2008
Package Collins, Boozer, and Knight for a big man who can play defense, let Sloan go and win a championship.
Don't Match the Offer | 8:23 a.m. July 25, 2008
Let's see $15 Million for a player who won't follow his coaches recommendations, averages 1.7 Points Per Game and .6 Rebounds Per Game and plays in 7 games during 2008. Ya he's a keeper all right.

Expect some move today | 8:31 a.m. July 25, 2008
The Jazz must be working on something otherwise they would have pulled the string on CJ already.

CJ's biggest mistake? Taking advice from his agent and skipping the Revue the past two years. Had he played and shined, he would have had more time and, possibly, forced the Jazz to trade AK.
Learn your stats | 8:32 a.m. July 25, 2008
This is for Don't Match.

Let's try some reality in our stats, can we?

First of all Miles averaged 5 points per game and played in 60 games in 2008. I'm pretty sure you were looking at the playoff numbers.

Second of all, look at the games that he actually got over 20 minutes. He shot the ball well, rebounded and got some steals.

Third. He is only 21! The Jazz have put in too much time developing and paying him to just let him go. Plus, according to other players around the league, he impresses everyone that he plays with. Coaches, stars, everybody. He is going to be a stud.
S. Anderson and D. Benoit | 8:34 a.m. July 25, 2008
CJ is the 2008 version of David Benoit and Shandon Anderson. Plays well in our system, but is willing to leave the team for a lesser team...and ultimately, disappear.

noclue2@frontiernet.net | 8:34 a.m. July 25, 2008
I hope the Jazz don't sign C.J. he has a future in the NBA but not with the Jazz. If he is with a team that will allow him to get a couple of years of real experience behind him he will be one of the more outstanding players in the league. This will not happen under Sloan's inability to look past his own shortcomings and allow a player to be himself. I wish nothing but the best for CJ no matter were he plays. Hopefully not Utah.
RE: He's Gone | 8:39 a.m. July 25, 2008
From what I've seen I respect C.J. for keeping a good attitude while being jerked around by a coach whose attitude is very much in question. Any coach or fan who cannot see the reasons why C.J. skipped the review, might need to learn more about the buisness end of the NBA. A 15 million dollar commodity does not play in the summer league with out a contract.
MTN | 8:37 a.m. July 25, 2008
CJs a player... He just needs minutes. Defensively, he could get as many roaming weakside blocks as AK, and then you don't need AK. He shoots better than AK too. AK's a tremendous passer (I think the most creative big passer since Bird) but he takes too many risks and sometimes too many passes, hence the turnovers. AK's never been as aggressive to the hoop since his surgery, and CJ hasn't blown his knees out yet. He'll take the ball to the hole. Keep CJ!!!!!!!
Investment? | 8:54 a.m. July 25, 2008
The Jazz don't have any investment in this kid. A second rounder who got less than a mil per season is nothing in todays NBA. He just is not worth any more investment than what has been spent. If he makes it so be it, but our current salary structure can't handle someone who has not shown the dedication that management wants to see. He was hell bent on 3 things that were bad decisions--coming out for the draft instead of taking the full ride offered by Texas, and bad work ethic and dedication to his choice to play in the NBA. End of story.
Richard Nibbler | 8:55 a.m. July 25, 2008
Sign CJ and get rid of AK!!!
sparks24 | 9:18 a.m. July 25, 2008
Big day for KOC this decision will be one KOC will never forget if he lets CJ go. Match it
Who cares... | 9:17 a.m. July 25, 2008
...these boys are all a bunch of over-paid kids.
Anonymous | 9:23 a.m. July 25, 2008
First off, did anyone see the playoffs last year?Harpring is done...his knees are shot. I like Korver but the dude is a stature on defense. CJ is long and pretty athletic and should have been a college junior last year.

We paid way more than that for Giricek and for Arroyo and CJ is better than those two.
magnus | 9:32 a.m. July 25, 2008
uuggg, (me shaking my head) most of you really don't get this do you...

If the Jazz sign CJ they would have 15 guaranteed contracts for this year. Meaning that the ONLY way they could do anything else is through a trade, that is a tough situation to be in.

The Jazz can't just "get rid" of people under contract, they have to trade them. Which means someone else has to want them and furthermore since most teams are over the salary cap the salaries you trade have to be comparable to the salaries you get back. AK isn't going anywhere, nobody wants his contract, same goes for Collins unless he is traded around the trade deadline to clear cap space.

Miles is no AK, not by a long shot.

CJ doesn't want to stay, he feels like the Jazz organization hasn't treated him fairly and he probably hates playing for Sloan.

Keeping CJ would be nice, especially since Harprings minutes keep going down, but with the Jazz current roster and payroll is seems foolish to use the last roster spot on a backup guard. The Jazz need a solid backup center, not a guard.

Two words... Kwame Brown
fesenko | 9:34 a.m. July 25, 2008
hopefully fesenko will take the rmr as a learning experience, work to getting in shape by the start of training camp, and come to camp confident, and leave a good impression like he did last year. he might be lacking confidence now, i like his style, i think fedexo is a player that needs to work his butt off to make it, doing everything, studying, working out, practicing. i can't imagine a year of solid work and discipline would hurt him.
Marty | 9:41 a.m. July 25, 2008
Sign CJ--here is why:
1. A four year gamble, at the end you have potentially one of the better 2 guards in the NBA. He is still very young and 4 years to develop is not unreasonable.
2. The Jazz won't be able to keep Boozer, Williams, AK and Memo unless they go well over the cap. Of that group, it seems that AK may be most likely to go. I suspect he would like to play the "Point Forward" position and another team may allow him to do that.
3. My recollection is that Sloan has praised his work ethic. This is quite unlike all other youngs that are fighting for playing time.
4. When he shoots, he looks like Ray Allen and that would be beautiful to watch.
5. He appears to have the upper body strength to rebound and provide some points in the paint to match his shooting stroke.
6. It would appear that he is intelligent enough to play Sloan's system.
7. I do not believe that there is another player available for the same amount of money that has the same potential.
8. Go over the cap for a short time anyway. Keep everybody.
Management-market value | 9:42 a.m. July 25, 2008
Right now C.J. got an offer for around 4 mill a year. What would he be worth if he continues to improve over the next couple of years?? Would he not then be undervalued? next year they can afford him, after that they can trade him. If he develops at the 3 spot, it frees up the Jazz to trade Harpring, and or A.K. I say instead of guessing, keep C.J. for one more year, tell Jerry to pull his head out of his tractor, and stop holding the RMR against the kid. The Jazz don't even play their players big minutes at the RMR anyway. Did Brewer play in the RMR....NO he was injured....Koufos and Fess hardly smell the court over scrubs who will never make it to the NBA. Sorry, let's get back on track here. You have three players, Brewer, CJ, and Almond.....let them battle it out to see who the better player is long term and then lock one or two of them up. Competition is a good thing! It's forcing Almond to develop his game right now in order to play in the NBA....that's a good thing!! Lock him up Kevin.
20 for CJ | 9:44 a.m. July 25, 2008
If the jazz think they can get cj twenty or more minutes a night, he'll be worth the investment of time and money.
If they can't get him twenty, they should let him go.

I'd give him the playing time and retain him-they can always play him on road games as if this year is anything like last, it's unlikely the jazz are going to win, anyway.
odogtriever | 9:43 a.m. July 25, 2008
CJ is AK's replacement. There is no way the Jazz can give AK what he will want in a few years. By then CJ will be outplaying him anyway. Might as well keep him now for that 3 spot of the future. Not matching would be as bad as not matching Mo Williams offer, even though that worked out for us by getting D-Will.
Jazz Fan | 9:54 a.m. July 25, 2008
$15 Million. Don't let the door hit you on the way out CJ. No NBA players are irreplaceable.
seniorfan | 9:56 a.m. July 25, 2008
I can't believe how many of you can't see the talent in CJ, he is long, athletic, can shoot from deep, take it to the hole, post up, hit the mid range jumper, his length makes him very tough on defense, he has it all. That is why D. Will said the sky is the limit for CJ. All he needs is to mature both physically and mentally, and he is starting to do that. To say we have nothing invested in him because he is a 2nd round pick is like saying the same about Milsap, CJ has too much talent and potential to just let him walk and get nothing for him. Keep him. Jermaine O'Neal, Rashard Lewis, McGrady, (All Stars), T.Outlaw, Stevenson and others took 4 or 5 yrs to develope straight out of high school. Let's be patient and work to develope this kids talents and we will be glad we did.
Keep CJ | 10:03 a.m. July 25, 2008
CJ Miles is another player that was drafted from high school...the Jazz spend 3 years developing and are contemplating letting him go. WOW! DeShawn Stevenson is a starter and plays pretty well now. We have to break the cycle of letting players go before they have a break out season. Miles all around game is better than Almond right now. What's next Koufus is only 19...do we work him for 3 years and send him off too? If you remember the draft, Miles NBA comparison was Ray Allen....did people always know Ray Allen would be so special...No, only those who thought it would be worth taking a chance on.
zoek | 10:15 a.m. July 25, 2008
Matt Harpring has been great player for the jazz and we all love him and thank him for everything but the fact is no one can play for ever now is the perfect time to put a plan together and I think C J would be a great replacement for matt I'm not saying to just give C J all of matts minute but to slowly work him in over the next year two years from now when matt and most likely A.K. are gone a matured C J miles for only about 3 million is a steal I just the jazz relize this and keep him
NO!! | 10:21 a.m. July 25, 2008
Get rid of him. We have too many players and hes just another to worry about. We don't need Miles. It's time to let him go. We need to free up room on the roster and with the salary cap for other players next year and beyond. $4M is alot and he doesn't deserve it. He doesn't want to be here either.
Jimmy's Best Friend | 10:22 a.m. July 25, 2008
At first I did not want the Jazz to match the offer sheet becasue looking at the Jazz's 2 and 3 they were stacked. However, taking a better look at the situation one can see that Korver could walk, Harpring's knees are not holding up well, and AK will be gone in 2 years. The other part of this trade that people don't realize is this contract is 3 years guaranteed, with a team option for the 4th year. Now, I believe the Jazz should match because 3 years is nothing. CJ could become a valuable asset for the Jazz in the next couple of years.
Hollywood | 10:50 a.m. July 25, 2008
Agree w/ Jimmy's best friend.

Yes, CJ's contract gives them 15, but the way O'Connor has been talking, there are no UFA's we're looking at. Kevin has mentioned sign-and-trades, though. In those scenarios, I'd think the Jazz would be looking at a $9-$10M dollar deal and would trade multiple contracts (like Collins, Harp and Almond, for example). So a roster spot would be opened on the Jazz end.

CJ has shown he can be an effective backup in the NBA. Almond has shown he can score at the RMR and in the NBADL. Huge Difference!

Unless O'Connor has another deal in the works, then failing to match CJ's offer could be one of the biggest blunders in team history.

CJ has talent and could potentially start at 2 positions for a lot of teams. The once chance the JAzz gave him last year, he put up 29 points. Then Sloan inexplicably benched him for the next game and mumbled something about CJ not playing in the RMR.

Is our coach that freakin' dense? He holds a grudge for 6 months?
Milsap vs CJ | 10:53 a.m. July 25, 2008
People say Jerry doesn't develop young and/or play young talent. Milsap played LOTS and he is a 2nd rounder. So did Shandon Anderson. Stockton played a lot as a rookie -- behind an NBA All-Star -- and then was given the reins his second year.

Milsap EARNED every minute he got, and Jerry will play anyone who earns it.

CJ seems immature, and his agent stupid. He's a gamble. Milsap is a sure thing, becuase he shows up every minute.
Anonymous | 11:00 a.m. July 25, 2008
four words


kwame brown cant play

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If the Jazz think they've got a legit chance to
go all the way they're going to need CJ
JUST DREAMING | 11:05 a.m. July 25, 2008
If we could sign and Trade Cj and Jarron Collins for Nick Collison or Chris Wilcox. We would be sitting pretty we would get a big man that plays defense and rebounds, and is a big strong body. Then Fes can go away, and will bring kostus on in a few years, and this year Almond can get some playing time.
I like | 11:16 a.m. July 25, 2008
the Kwame Brown idea. Utah doesn't need another SG who will just be spending most of his time on the bench. I was going to say they need another big guy, but they really don't have anyone (outside of the Fester and the new guy) other than collins. I think signing Kwame Brown would be an excellent idea. He's still young and can't be any worse than Collins. Yes, he hasn't played anywhere near his expectations, but Utah could get him for next to nothing. I just think if Utah matched CJ there isn't much more the Jazz can do to improve (unless there is a trade). Utah doesn't need more help offensively, they need help defensively and as good as CJ can become, he isn't going to push Utah over the top.
Everyone has an opinion | 11:45 a.m. July 25, 2008
I love the responsiveness of Jazz fans. I agree with all the CJ supporters. We desperately need to sign this guy. He is talented and skilled. Coaches always told me, "you can't teach shooting touch, you either have it or you don't." CJ has it. When given the opportunity, CJ has performed well. I love his stroke. I agree with those who groups CJ with the Jermaine O'Neil's of the world. It is so frustrating to me when the Jazz develop a young player and then let him go breakout for another team. The Jazz draft very well, but we let too many of these young players leave and keep some of the wrong players. As much as I like him, I would have to take CJ over Harpring at this point in his career. Moment of truth for KOC...Match.
We need | 11:47 a.m. July 25, 2008
Kwame played good everytime he played the Jazz. Will he come to Utah well its better than Memphis. C'mon Jazz throw midlevel money at him and try. Are only expectations of him would be to come off the bench to back boozer and okur.

See Jaya in OKC next year.
svenerikson | 12:20 p.m. July 25, 2008
Yes, the Jazz need a big guy. But at this point the Big Guy market is fairly lacking. Rather than getting rid of CJ in order to save money for a Big Guy who has yet to be identified and may not even be out there, the Jazz should sign CJ because they are familiar with him, he knows the offense, and he has the potential to be an amazing player in this league---really, you think O'Connor would have waited to the last possible minute to decide if CJ wasn't worth it?

With a 8 man rotation that is pretty much set, the Jazz should try to keep the best bench players they can at this point. If anything, CJ will be valuable trade bait in the future, much more so than Kwame or someother dufus that the Jazz bring in for one season.
svenerikson | 12:21 p.m. July 25, 2008

PS I agree that Harpring should have seen his last day in Utah. Harpring was an amazingly valuable asset for a Jazz time that can be a little soft (can you say Boozer?). But I felt that his game really dropped off in the playoffs, a time when the Jazz need the most help. Plus, at his age and after so many injuries, he will be particularly delicate this year. The Jazz should replace the bulk of Harpring's minutes with CJ. This will let Harpring rest his aging body for those big, physical games when we need him most and will give CJ that confidence and experience he'll need to succeed. The big problem with this plan is Jerry--Harpring is obviously one of his favorite players and having Jerry agree to replacing the hard-working Harpring with the Rocky Mtn Revue skipping Miles is going to be tough work indeed.

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