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Utah Jazz: Team trades Hart to Clippers for Knight
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thank you | 4:03 p.m. July 23, 2008
see ya hart
Yo MOMMA HART | 4:06 p.m. July 23, 2008
If this is a dream PLEASE DONT WAKE ME!!!!!!!!!!!! Brevin Knight for Hart?
SWEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU! | 4:04 p.m. July 23, 2008
Brevin Knight may not be as good as he used to be, but at least he is not Jason
Hart.
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why? | 4:04 p.m. July 23, 2008
So what was the point behind this trade?
Wakesomething | 4:13 p.m. July 23, 2008
Wow, not much for not much in return. Why didn't we just buy out Hart to
give us more options. I would rather see Brazelton from the Revue get a shot or
Jaycee Carol in the mix. If this is Utah being "aggressive" this
summer than I have lost hope in this trading season.
STEVE-O | 4:11 p.m. July 23, 2008
YEEEEEEEEEES!!! I've never been more happy! A peice of cement would have
been worth trading Hart for! This is great.
Great trade | 4:12 p.m. July 23, 2008
The Utah Jazz probably have the strongest showing at the point guard in the
whole league now. Maybe Knight will play SG? Either way, I think this was a
great trade, and it's good to see Kevin O' Conner is actively trying
to make the team better.
Awesome | 4:12 p.m. July 23, 2008
Way to go Kevin OConner!! This is a great upgrade over Hart. Hart was lucky to
make the team honestly, where as Brevin is a proven backup point guard. Nice
upgrade for nothing, this will improve the Jazz as D Will wasn't allowed to
rest in the playoffs because the drop off was so great when the backup came into
the game. Move over Ronnie Price, I like you and you are a nice guy, but you
now have competition for minutes.
Woo Hoo!! | 4:19 p.m. July 23, 2008
I dont even know who Brevin Knight is but this is the best news I've heard
all day!!!
I.M. | 4:21 p.m. July 23, 2008
We may have questions about Knight, but we have all the answers on Hart.
Buh-bye.
I'd say thanks for playing, but can we really call what Hart did "playing"?
Buh-bye.
I'd say thanks for playing, but can we really call what Hart did "playing"?
Well Done | 4:21 p.m. July 23, 2008
O'Connor could have traded Hart for a VHS tape of Teen Wolf and half a box
of Lucky Charms and I would be happy. Price should still be back up PG.
JazzFanInHouston | 4:23 p.m. July 23, 2008
The salaries are about the same but Knight's wp48 numbers are far better.
Over several years, Hart had a couple of very good years interspersed with very
poor ones. Knight has also bounced around a lot of teams.
Knight is small but may be a pesky defender which could help. He has a lot of experience at PG. On balance this looks like a mild positive for the Jazz.
Knight is small but may be a pesky defender which could help. He has a lot of experience at PG. On balance this looks like a mild positive for the Jazz.
Blessings | 4:24 p.m. July 23, 2008
I TOLD you that if you paid your Tithing you'd be blessed!
This is WONDERFUL, like when the doctor removes that big 'ol hairy wart off of your nose.
This is WONDERFUL, like when the doctor removes that big 'ol hairy wart off of your nose.
test | 4:27 p.m. July 23, 2008
test
EdM | 4:30 p.m. July 23, 2008
Hey wakesomething: Have you lost your mind? Brazelton??? He can't get
the offense going in the first 14 seconds.....or have you NOT watched any of the
Revue? He looked like a deer caught in a car's headlights against the
Iranian National Team in the 1st quarter.....Brevin Knight is a QUALITY pickup
as a backup PG.
hart-less | 4:35 p.m. July 23, 2008
The Jazz are now Hart less and I love it. A nice move for the Jazz. Jazz =
2009 World Champions. GO JAZZ!!!!!!
Big R | 4:35 p.m. July 23, 2008
Thank you, Kevin O Conner. Now lets go to work to fill that gaping hole in the
paint.
Breverin | 4:40 p.m. July 23, 2008
The best thing about this trade is that Booner doesn't seem to be able to
pronounce "Brevin". It sounds like he calls him "Breverin".
That should be enjoyable to listen to.
Yay | 4:41 p.m. July 23, 2008
This move save the jazz about 750,000 in money. Hart made 2.3 million last
year, and knight made 1.6 million. Maybe this creates some space to match the
offer to miles.(Just a thought.)
@Great trade | 4:44 p.m. July 23, 2008
"Maybe Knight will play SG?"
Please don't give Sloan any ideas. Brevin doesn't shoot well at all and he's only 5 9.
He'll be a serviceable backup though.
Please don't give Sloan any ideas. Brevin doesn't shoot well at all and he's only 5 9.
He'll be a serviceable backup though.
YaY! | 4:43 p.m. July 23, 2008
This saves the jazz about 700,000 dollars in money. Hart made 2.3 million, and
knight made about 1.6 million. Maybe this is a move to free up some money to
match the offer to Miles.(Just a Thought.)
Helen Keller | 4:44 p.m. July 23, 2008
The way I see it, Hart sucked big time.
Best news I've heard all day! | 4:52 p.m. July 23, 2008
I had been having a terrible day............UP TILL NOW! I don't have to
hear a player complain about his kids "riding too low" anymore or see
him take that awkward looking jumpshot at the end of quarters.
Knight is making less than Hart is and he can't possibly be any worse. A win all the way around. YES!!!
Knight is making less than Hart is and he can't possibly be any worse. A win all the way around. YES!!!
Sub-Odeon | 4:50 p.m. July 23, 2008
Terrific news.
No more watching Hart come in, dribble out the clock, and chuck up a bad shot before the end of the quarter. Guy just never seemed to know what he was doing in the Jazz system. Price was always better.
Let's hope Knight can do something?
I think he'd have to work had to do worse than Hart did.
No more watching Hart come in, dribble out the clock, and chuck up a bad shot before the end of the quarter. Guy just never seemed to know what he was doing in the Jazz system. Price was always better.
Let's hope Knight can do something?
I think he'd have to work had to do worse than Hart did.
Bulldog | 4:54 p.m. July 23, 2008
Poor mans Stock, a true point. a def
upgrade over hart w/ the exception of being a little injury prone and not as good a defender. good assist guy that can create for his teammates. price is more of a 2-guard anyways and will find pt somehow because of the energy he brings off the bench. good move.
upgrade over hart w/ the exception of being a little injury prone and not as good a defender. good assist guy that can create for his teammates. price is more of a 2-guard anyways and will find pt somehow because of the energy he brings off the bench. good move.
David | 4:57 p.m. July 23, 2008
This is a solid move...mostly because it sheds about $500,000 for the cap.
Perhaps this a move that might better enable the Jazz to match the CJ Miles
offer. I like Carroll and Brazleton (although last night could've been an
anomaly), but Knight is a pure point guard who is a solid passer with a low
turnover rate. He won't play a whole lot but has the ability to step in if
Deron has foul trouble. Just a year ago, he averaged 7 apg (9 apg each of the
two seasons before). Great move!
MTN | 5:13 p.m. July 23, 2008
Is this two GM's bored out of their minds? Granted, it looks like we got
the better end of the deal. But don't you think both teams have more
pressing issues than swapping their 13th guys? You know how little kids swap
lunchstuffs in the cafeteria? "I'll give you my twinkie for your
pretzels and Capri Sun..." This trade is like swapping napkins.
I hope KOC is reading this | 5:14 p.m. July 23, 2008
A good and necessary move, but is there more coming? Maybe the Jazz can trade
away floppin' Collins, ball hoggin' Almond and clownin' Fesenko
for a back up center with some experience who can block shots, rebound, and has
a move or two in the low post. I hope they make this move soon, like now, so the
Jazz can match C.J.'s offer from the Thunder [Down Under].
sports insanity | 5:16 p.m. July 23, 2008
a typical pointless trade by the jazz, that does nothing for either team.
I would rather hart be used as part of a bigger trade for big name.
but maybe it will be easier to user brevin in such a trade.
why would the clippers want hart over brevin?
clearly the jazz just got a longer contract to deal with with and an equally unproductive player. Why else has brevin played for so many teams?
That should be a big warning flag! Apparently the Jazz didn't learn their lesson with hart.
I would rather hart be used as part of a bigger trade for big name.
but maybe it will be easier to user brevin in such a trade.
why would the clippers want hart over brevin?
clearly the jazz just got a longer contract to deal with with and an equally unproductive player. Why else has brevin played for so many teams?
That should be a big warning flag! Apparently the Jazz didn't learn their lesson with hart.
Great Move | 5:27 p.m. July 23, 2008
This a great move cause Brevin is a good true point guard and should take Prices
minutes. I like Price but he is not a true point guard.
Hot Rod | 5:33 p.m. July 23, 2008
You think it is funny to hear Booner try to pronounce it? The only pronouncer
worse than Hot Rod is Harry Carey! I can't wait to see what funny name Hot
Rod comes up with for Brevin.
JazzFanInHouston | 5:37 p.m. July 23, 2008
This is not like getting Pargo. Don't expect too much but Knight should
know how to run an offense and improve the eff of the second team a little.
I wonder if Price may be traded if Knight does well?
I wonder if Price may be traded if Knight does well?
This Trade Shows | 5:40 p.m. July 23, 2008
Why the Jazz are the Jazz and the Clippers are the Clippers. Only a fool would
take Hart, and even if he's old, Brevin Knight is WAAAAY better than Hart
could ever hope to be. GO JAZZ. Maybe we can get the Magic to trade us Dwight
Howard straight up for Memo or Boozer. Hell, come to think of it, maybe the Jazz
could trade both of them for Howard.
fran | 5:41 p.m. July 23, 2008
stop the presses
Um, this is the equivalent | 5:41 p.m. July 23, 2008
of trading your old socks to some guy for his old tie. I am not impressed with
Hart OR Knight.
STEVE-O | 5:46 p.m. July 23, 2008
SWEET! Now trade Collins for a box of cracker Jacks and a Happy meal and our
team will be looking great!
Surprised. | 5:54 p.m. July 23, 2008
I am surprised that the Clips took Hart straight up for BK. The Clips must have
seen something they liked the first time around they had Hart? But, then again
this is the same team that drafted Michael Olowokandi, Reggie Williams, Bo
Kimble, Elmore Spencer, Danny Ferry, Randy Woods, Darius Miles, Maurice Taylor,
and everybody's favorite rolly pully Benoit Benjamin.
As for the Jazz, BK was one PG I wanted the Jazz to pickup to backup D-Will. BK will provide effective minutes behind Deron. I can see Sloan playing Ronnie and BK together in the 2nd quarter. Good fit. Jazz player all the way. Now to rid ourselves of Jarron Collins.
As for the Jazz, BK was one PG I wanted the Jazz to pickup to backup D-Will. BK will provide effective minutes behind Deron. I can see Sloan playing Ronnie and BK together in the 2nd quarter. Good fit. Jazz player all the way. Now to rid ourselves of Jarron Collins.
Re:MTN | 5:57 p.m. July 23, 2008
I wouldn't call this swapping 13th players. Brevin started later in the
season. He's a solid player.
Paul | 5:58 p.m. July 23, 2008
I still miss Dee Brown!
Reality check | 6:06 p.m. July 23, 2008
Why would the Clippers give up Knight for a guy they had on their roster the
year before and couldn't beat out Price for the backup point position?
Think about this everyone.
magnus | 6:16 p.m. July 23, 2008
I like this trade. Only about 500k better in the salary department but Knight
is a smart pass first veteran PG with great defensive skills.
I would think that Price would play 2 guard before Knight. Knight is a pure point guard and couldn't throw it in the ocean from three point land, were as Price is a more natural shooter and scorer but not as good a passer.
As it stands now here's what I think the depth chart looks like for the Jazz.
PG: Williams Price Knight
SG: Brewer Korver Almond?
SF: Kirilenko Harpring
PF: Boozer Millsap
C: Okur Collins/Fesenko?/Koufos?
That really is a pretty strong lineup with one gaping hole at backup center. I think Almond Fes and Kosta will all spend time in the D-League this year, Fes is in the best position to make some noise if he will just apply himself.
Here are some lineups that I think the Jazz should try in small doses:
Small ball: Williams, Korver/Price, Brewer, AK, Millsap. Play Zone and run run run, 8SOL.
Big Ball: Williams, AK, Millsap, Boozer, Okur.
Bigger Ball: Williams, AK, Millsap, Okur, Fesenko.
Zone Buster: Williams, Price, Korver, Kirilenko, Okur.
I would think that Price would play 2 guard before Knight. Knight is a pure point guard and couldn't throw it in the ocean from three point land, were as Price is a more natural shooter and scorer but not as good a passer.
As it stands now here's what I think the depth chart looks like for the Jazz.
PG: Williams Price Knight
SG: Brewer Korver Almond?
SF: Kirilenko Harpring
PF: Boozer Millsap
C: Okur Collins/Fesenko?/Koufos?
That really is a pretty strong lineup with one gaping hole at backup center. I think Almond Fes and Kosta will all spend time in the D-League this year, Fes is in the best position to make some noise if he will just apply himself.
Here are some lineups that I think the Jazz should try in small doses:
Small ball: Williams, Korver/Price, Brewer, AK, Millsap. Play Zone and run run run, 8SOL.
Big Ball: Williams, AK, Millsap, Boozer, Okur.
Bigger Ball: Williams, AK, Millsap, Okur, Fesenko.
Zone Buster: Williams, Price, Korver, Kirilenko, Okur.
Fernando Arias | 6:21 p.m. July 23, 2008
sports insanity, did you already forget the Korver for Giricek trade? How was
that pointless?
Have you ever seen Brevin Knight play? He is a perfect fit for the Jazz system. He is a laser-accurate passer who is extremely likely to fit like a fish in water with the Jazz.
His only negatives are his age and his size, which at back-up guard are really not a major issue.
It not a franchise-changing trade, but it's a good one that may pay off nicely.
Have you ever seen Brevin Knight play? He is a perfect fit for the Jazz system. He is a laser-accurate passer who is extremely likely to fit like a fish in water with the Jazz.
His only negatives are his age and his size, which at back-up guard are really not a major issue.
It not a franchise-changing trade, but it's a good one that may pay off nicely.
WHAT??? | 6:29 p.m. July 23, 2008
Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, Hart made 2.3 million last year? Are you kidding me? I am
sure that he is a really nice guy. But there is no way he belongs on an NBA
team. So I guess the Clipper will be perfect fit. Brevin has always been atleast
decent. I will be very comfortable with him at the 3rd PG spot.
Ridiculous | 6:35 p.m. July 23, 2008
I can not believe that this much excitement has been generated over a trade that
involves our 12th or 13th man for a player that will likely be our 3rd PG.
Neither player is going to bring a ring to SLC, so every one needs to calm down
their excitement.
The only way this makes any sort of a difference for the Jazz is if they are using the money saved to pursue someone else (Miles?). Other than that, who cares?
As for the idea that some player who was undrafted, yet to be signed with any team after a year or two out of college, and playing against a bunch of other mostly undrafted, unsigned players in the Revue is going to really make difference is laughable. If any unsigned player in the Revue was going to really make a measurable difference for the Jazz they would have already have a contract somewhere.
The only way this makes any sort of a difference for the Jazz is if they are using the money saved to pursue someone else (Miles?). Other than that, who cares?
As for the idea that some player who was undrafted, yet to be signed with any team after a year or two out of college, and playing against a bunch of other mostly undrafted, unsigned players in the Revue is going to really make difference is laughable. If any unsigned player in the Revue was going to really make a measurable difference for the Jazz they would have already have a contract somewhere.
True Point Guard | 6:46 p.m. July 23, 2008
Will someone explaint to me what a "true point guard" is? Is that
code for passing point guard? Does that make Jason Kidd a true point guard and
Deron Williams a scoring point guard? I just don't understand what
O'Conner could do to make some people happy. He just rid the Jazz of one
of the two most painful players in the NBA to watch (collins being the other)
and some are still complaining? Come on! The fact that we got a veteran that
can help Price to get better in the locker room and on the court for less of a
price than Hart, is an amazing move to pull off!!!
Insider | 6:52 p.m. July 23, 2008
I would not be surprised to see the Jazz waive or buy out Brevin Knight. After
all, do you want him to get more minutes or take minutes from Ronnie Price?
mikey2388 | 7:25 p.m. July 23, 2008
WOW magnus, maybe sloan will read this and you can get a check from the jazz.
This is a great trade just to release some cap room and sorry, miles will not
play for the jazz again. Too immature for sloan. We need one more veteran and we
should be in good shape, at least this year.
risky | 7:36 p.m. July 23, 2008
Helen-
Take a closer look. This trade could knock your eyes out.
Take a closer look. This trade could knock your eyes out.
Woogie Moogie | 7:41 p.m. July 23, 2008
Knight strikes me as the sort that could come alive in Sloan's system, like
Shandon Anderson and Howard Eisley did.
Hey, you know who I miss? Greg Foster. He was a pepper of a fellow.
Hey, you know who I miss? Greg Foster. He was a pepper of a fellow.
Fesenko Hater | 7:48 p.m. July 23, 2008
I'm the original Fes hater. That dude is going nowhere. I know I'm
not the only one who KNOWS the Jazz can do 10x better.
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