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RE: Laugh a Minute | 10:15 a.m. July 25, 2008
"Bronco v. Whitt records speak for themselves...You clearly do belong with
the big boys!"
Yes, the Utes are the best team in the State over last 10 years. We made history to play with the "big boys" in 2004... TDS made history by winning against a bad Ute team on the last play of the game in 2005.
Utes have played bad the last 2 years and the fact is the TDS has barly beat them. Now when Utes in 2003 and 2004 were playing better how did the TDS fair in those games?
Yes, the Utes are the best team in the State over last 10 years. We made history to play with the "big boys" in 2004... TDS made history by winning against a bad Ute team on the last play of the game in 2005.
Utes have played bad the last 2 years and the fact is the TDS has barly beat them. Now when Utes in 2003 and 2004 were playing better how did the TDS fair in those games?
Re Mcbirde | 10:57 a.m. July 25, 2008
The Utes always lose to Kentucky, not North Carolina.
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Cherry Picking | 12:36 p.m. July 25, 2008
"Yes, the Utes are the best team in the State over last 10 years."
Last 10 years = 2003 + 2004???
A very good Utah team (10-2) barely beating a very bad BYU team (5-6), 3-0, is ignored, but a couple of very good BYU teams (11-2, 11-2) barely beating a couple of good Utah teams (9-4, 8-5), 17-10, 33-31, is a big deal???
Actual Record Last 10 years
Head-to-Head
BYU 5
Utah 5
MWC Championships
BYU 4 (3 undefeated titles)
Utah 3 (1 undefeated title)
MWC Record
BYU 53-22 (71%)
Utah 47-27 (64%)
Overall Record
BYU 78-47 (62%) (3 double-digit win seasons)
Utah 78-41 (66%) (2 double-digit win seasons)
Best Season
BYU 12-2
Utah 12-0
Worst Season
BYU 5-7
Utah 4-7
Bowls
BYU 6 (2-4)
Utah 7 (7-0)
Average Record of Bowl Opponents
BYU 10-3 (2 undefeated teams, 1 two-loss team)
Utah 8-5 (2 opponents with 4 losses, all other opponents had 5 or more losses)
Top 25 Finishes
BYU 3
Utah 2
Last 10 years = 2003 + 2004???
A very good Utah team (10-2) barely beating a very bad BYU team (5-6), 3-0, is ignored, but a couple of very good BYU teams (11-2, 11-2) barely beating a couple of good Utah teams (9-4, 8-5), 17-10, 33-31, is a big deal???
Actual Record Last 10 years
Head-to-Head
BYU 5
Utah 5
MWC Championships
BYU 4 (3 undefeated titles)
Utah 3 (1 undefeated title)
MWC Record
BYU 53-22 (71%)
Utah 47-27 (64%)
Overall Record
BYU 78-47 (62%) (3 double-digit win seasons)
Utah 78-41 (66%) (2 double-digit win seasons)
Best Season
BYU 12-2
Utah 12-0
Worst Season
BYU 5-7
Utah 4-7
Bowls
BYU 6 (2-4)
Utah 7 (7-0)
Average Record of Bowl Opponents
BYU 10-3 (2 undefeated teams, 1 two-loss team)
Utah 8-5 (2 opponents with 4 losses, all other opponents had 5 or more losses)
Top 25 Finishes
BYU 3
Utah 2
Red Kool-Aid | 12:41 p.m. July 25, 2008
Re: Re: Laugh a Minute ...
The Utes were clearly the superior team in 2004. No argument there. By the way, where's your Superior coach now?
If Kyle had been your coach the past 10 years, I'd let you include Utah's performance in the last decade. However, Kyle v. Bronco is the only thing that is relevant now. If you want to delve into the past, good luck. Let's look at the last 20-30 years then.
Utes go undefeated and finish 4th in rankings. BYU goes undefeated and wins national championship. Who cares? None of it matters now.
Utah was the better team in 2003 -- and yet they still only beat BYU by 3 points when the Cougars were playing a 3rd string QB who couldn't complete a pass longer than 5 yards. You want to build a case of superiority on that?
Your luck argument is simply an excuse for unintelligent play and coaching. Kyle/Gary's drop-9-men-into-pass-defense ploy worked on the last play in 2005. They were stupid to try it again in 2006. Letting the receiver get behind you on 4th and 18 is just dumb. Saint Urban even said there is no such thing as luck.
The Utes were clearly the superior team in 2004. No argument there. By the way, where's your Superior coach now?
If Kyle had been your coach the past 10 years, I'd let you include Utah's performance in the last decade. However, Kyle v. Bronco is the only thing that is relevant now. If you want to delve into the past, good luck. Let's look at the last 20-30 years then.
Utes go undefeated and finish 4th in rankings. BYU goes undefeated and wins national championship. Who cares? None of it matters now.
Utah was the better team in 2003 -- and yet they still only beat BYU by 3 points when the Cougars were playing a 3rd string QB who couldn't complete a pass longer than 5 yards. You want to build a case of superiority on that?
Your luck argument is simply an excuse for unintelligent play and coaching. Kyle/Gary's drop-9-men-into-pass-defense ploy worked on the last play in 2005. They were stupid to try it again in 2006. Letting the receiver get behind you on 4th and 18 is just dumb. Saint Urban even said there is no such thing as luck.
Utah Identity Issues | 1:00 p.m. July 25, 2008
Hey, Utah -- U-Haul called and they want their U back. (U-Haul, the official
sponsor of Utah football. Urban Meyer called them to move his carbetbags. Chuck
Stobart, Jim Fassel, Ron McBride were all forced to give them a call.)
The Ute Indian tribe called, and they want their mascot and logo back.
Nice uni recall, too. Because everyone knows how intimidating it is to display the word "MUSS" on your basketball uniforms. Whoa! Now that that's on there, I'm sure those punk Wyo Cowboys won't throw some meaningless facial slam in your grills at the end of the games this year, all so your coach can go ballistic and make a fool out of himself.
What is it with Utah coaches and poor public sportsmanship anyways? Get a grip, guys! It's only sports.
The Ute Indian tribe called, and they want their mascot and logo back.
Nice uni recall, too. Because everyone knows how intimidating it is to display the word "MUSS" on your basketball uniforms. Whoa! Now that that's on there, I'm sure those punk Wyo Cowboys won't throw some meaningless facial slam in your grills at the end of the games this year, all so your coach can go ballistic and make a fool out of himself.
What is it with Utah coaches and poor public sportsmanship anyways? Get a grip, guys! It's only sports.
Re: Cherry Picking | 1:37 p.m. July 25, 2008
Utah's 7-game win streak in bowls is great, but the competition was pretty
weak. BYU had a poor bowl showing against much better competition.
Utah had one very good year and one exceptional year versus 3 very good years for BYU.
Overall, the teams played fairly evenly the last decade, with maybe a slight edge to BYU with more ranked teams and more conference titles.
Utah had one very good year and one exceptional year versus 3 very good years for BYU.
Overall, the teams played fairly evenly the last decade, with maybe a slight edge to BYU with more ranked teams and more conference titles.
pony | 5:10 p.m. July 25, 2008
Get real Kyle, everyone hates you and your team. Revenge in Laramie!!!!!!!!!!
Wow, | 5:14 p.m. July 25, 2008
you kitty-kats are out-of-control. Spin, spin, spin. LOL!!
huh? | 7:44 p.m. July 25, 2008
Ok so I'm really curious...what IS byu's record vs unlv in provo?
Huh? | 11:30 p.m. July 25, 2008
Ok so I'm really curious...what IS utah's record vs MWC teams the last
2 years?
SCOREBOARD!!!!!!!
SCOREBOARD!!!!!!!
Duh | 10:52 a.m. July 26, 2008
BYU is 12-3 overall vs. UNLV.
BYU is 4-3 vs. UNLV in Provo.
BYU is 7-0 vs. UNLV in Las Vegas.
BYU is 1-0 vs. UNLV at a neutral site (Japan).
Incidentally, BYU has scored in every one of those games while UNLV has been shut out twice.
Additionally, Cougar tacklers have never been ridiculed by the Rebel coaches after the game for "running away from" a UNLV running back.
Hope that clears things up.
BYU is 4-3 vs. UNLV in Provo.
BYU is 7-0 vs. UNLV in Las Vegas.
BYU is 1-0 vs. UNLV at a neutral site (Japan).
Incidentally, BYU has scored in every one of those games while UNLV has been shut out twice.
Additionally, Cougar tacklers have never been ridiculed by the Rebel coaches after the game for "running away from" a UNLV running back.
Hope that clears things up.
What is Utah's.... | 8:07 p.m. July 26, 2008
overall record against UNLV, home and away? Please clear that one up,
especially the home record. LOL!! BTW, just to help, I don't recall Utah
ever losing to UNLV at home, let alone three times. At least not in the past
two decades or so. I believe two of the kittens' losses to them took place
this decade, alone. Thanks in advance for the continued humor. Sincerely, your
idol.
Curious | 8:45 a.m. July 28, 2008
When was the last time Utah or BYU was shutout by a conference opponent that won
only one conference game all season?
spin spin spin | 11:47 a.m. July 28, 2008
Still can't answer the simple question? We're not asking about
BYU's home record vs UNLV. Yes, you're right, the Utes dropped an egg
vs a horrible UNLV team, and yes the Utes are going to take crap from that for a
long long time. But the question that we're all asking is what exactly is
BYU's home record vs UNLV for the past decade? Please no cougar spin
oops | 12:17 p.m. July 28, 2008
ok, I realize I totally contradicted myself. I learned my lesson, need to be
smart and read. Man, I feel like a cougar...
This just in ... | 3:12 p.m. July 28, 2008
I'll type this slow for all you idiot Ute fans out there ...
A win at home or on the road still counts the same in a team's record.
A loss at home or on the road still counts the same on a team's record.
The present counts more than the past.
You can go to UNLV's unexpected record in Provo this decade. We can go to BYU's undefeated record vs. UNLV since Bronco took over.
You can obsess about UNLV's record in Provo this decade, we'll talk about Kyle's embarrassing shutout last year.
BYU has never lost to UNLV on the road. Tell us, "Spin, Spin, Spin" how does that compare to Utah's road record at UNLV (this century, this decade or since last season).
Scoreboard. It's a beautiful thing.
I hope that clears things up for you.
A win at home or on the road still counts the same in a team's record.
A loss at home or on the road still counts the same on a team's record.
The present counts more than the past.
You can go to UNLV's unexpected record in Provo this decade. We can go to BYU's undefeated record vs. UNLV since Bronco took over.
You can obsess about UNLV's record in Provo this decade, we'll talk about Kyle's embarrassing shutout last year.
BYU has never lost to UNLV on the road. Tell us, "Spin, Spin, Spin" how does that compare to Utah's road record at UNLV (this century, this decade or since last season).
Scoreboard. It's a beautiful thing.
I hope that clears things up for you.
crazy stuff | 5:07 p.m. July 28, 2008
I'm guessing cougars have a.d.d. because i just keep getting the run around
from a simple question. BYU's home record vs UNLV this decade please? By
the way, I really really hope BYU has a great year. Bronco is a great coach.
He's done wonderful things with the Cougars program and as far as I'm
concerned (I'm a die hard Ute fan by the way) he deserves every bit of
credit he gets. But I hope that 1 loss comes up at RES.
GO UTES!!!!
GO UTES!!!!
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TDS beat Utes on a last play and got lucky on a 4th down at home and you call that a superior team? Props to the wins and MWC championships but I bet you would trade those for a BCS game.
TDS is not much better then the Utes. Superior team was the Utes in 2004, the TDS the last 2 years is good but Utes aren't shaking in their cleats.