Comments about ‘Utah Jazz: Top brass mulling over what to do with Miles’

I'm sorry. I didn't realize I had President of the CJ Miles fan club in here. So you really think OKC will be a contender in the future? You didn't specify if that was in the near future or distant future. If you were to say 35 years, then yes they may be contenders by that time, but within 4 or 5 years? I seriously doubt it. As far as the shooting guards Utah has had trouble defending, they usually have been star caliber players like Bryant and Mcgrady. CJ has potential to be good, but I wouldn't go as far to say he'll be that good.

If the Jazz could get Pargo they could move Price.

Price probably has more trade value than CJ as he has more experience and decent stats. Price and/or Hart/Collins might be moved for a back up sf.

Hart (expiring contract) may have some value if he is not hurt.

I got one word... How many of you let Mo Williams people would say the same thing now. Sure DWheel come in and saved the day, but would if the jazz would have not been able to get him. Letting Mo Williams go was a huge mistake...

So maybe we should learn something from that.

Tyler

You forgot to include Martell Webster as a star SG, who lit up the Jazz recently. Oh wait, Webster a star...? In no way shape or form would I consider myself president of the CJ Miles fan club. I am not even a Jazz fan, just a curious observer since I live in this state. My opinion is Miles has a chance to be a nice player in this league. I am not one claiming him to a future all-star or MVP candidate, but a relevant starter who can win his team some games is not out of the question.

And yes, I do believe OKC can be a contender in 4-5 years. Why can't they? They're rebuilding around an all-world talent (Durant), they have potential star role players (Jeff Green, Russell Westbrook), a mountain of future cap space and a bevy of draft picks. Though not in the same stage of development yet, their efforts to rebuild seem similar to that of the Trailblazers, a team that Jazz fans can officially begin to worry about. Most basketball heady fans understand those elements usually provide a future winner. Don't believe me? Ask your own Jazz team.

I am so completley perplexed by how many idiots there are that actually believe CJ miles is worth throwing away. I ask, why pay a guy for three year developing him just so he can go play well for another team! Are all of you blind!?! Morris Almond is one dimensional...sure he can shoot but we need someone that has the ability/potential to make a play off the dribble. CJ has shown that ability. When given the chance last year CJ really stepped up and played well. Everyone on here says he's not worth the money???!!! Is anyone in the NBA getting paid what they deserve? I firmly believe the Jazz should match this deal and get rid of whats necessary in order to make the money work(if at all possible Hart and Collins would be my first choice). About Hart.... I don't even think he could start on a jr. jazz allstar team. The guy is horribly unskilled and has an obvious lack of ability. Its mind blowing to think he's getting what he is. Sure am glad I'm not KOC! Go Jazz

One thing that I believe many people are forgetting. CJ can also play the small forward position. Hopefully the Jazz can dump AK's salary onto someone else. If this happens, your small forwards will be Matt Harpring and CJ Miles. (I consider Paul Millsap a Power Forward).

Sign him, sign him, sign him! CJ has been an investment for 3 years. He's got the skills, not only offensively but defensively as well. Anybody else see him on the boards with his long arms? He's seriously got everything to be a great player in the league.
I love Brewer and Korver (yes he is a specialist and not a great defender, but teams need those types of players as well--Steve Kerr, Sean Elliot). Not so sure about Almond. But keep him and CJ through the summer and training camp. If needed, trade one of them part way through the season and get something decent in return. It's not a hard decision. Come on Jazz!

c'mon Jazz fans, lets be real here for a second. Lets talk about the reality of this situation for a second here:

First, I think alot of this depends on what Harprings plans are, because lets face it, he is going to retire in Utah and this young Jazz team needs his leadership and toughness. If he is planning on playing through the end of his contract (two more years) then there really isn't any place on this team for CJ for 2 years and it makes no sense to pay him 3-4 mil to sit around. On the other hand if Harp thinks this year will be his last it may be worth keeping CJ.

Second, CJ has done nothing to endear himself to coach Sloan or the Jazz organization, I mean he should have played in the Review last year and he could have played this year while his agent was knocking on doors trying to find a contract, but he didn't.

I think the Jazz should let him go and spend their time trying to find some muscle to beef up their frontcourt.

Potential does not equate to performance. What CJ has lacked in the past and still lacks is the ability to perform under controlled circumstances (i.e. the off season and in training camp)let alone during game-time. He is not a "clutch player" like some other stars in the NBA where they can be lax in practice and then shine at game-time. So, the Jazz gave him 3 years to perform to his potential and he has been a disappointment. All of you CJ fans think that 4 mil a year will motivate him to live up to his potential? Why? With that kind of money he can continue to do the same thing he has always done: Not work with the Jazz trainers in the off season; not come to the RMR to showcase his ability; not perform during game time.

Mo Almond the mvp of the d-league does more than
just shoot.....anybody see the elevation he got last
night and dunked over the top of 2 iranians.
awsome.....those who say he isn't athletic are
nuts....as far as an nba body he puts Miles to
shame, with DWill at point Almond is just what
the jazz need now. If Miles can't motivate himself
now what makes you all think he will after he has
gotten the money. No, Almond he's a harder worker
and a better talent as well. We will never know
how good Miles would do as the review, since he
would never show. Attitude is everything!

I just looked at the list of unrestricted free agents at all positions. 4 mil a year will get you many options with a lot better stats than CJs.

He may have been a 3 year investment but so are a lot of other players for other teams. It really comes down to fit and money. Utah is loaded at CJs position and needs help in other positions. It is far better for Utah to spend 4 mil on renting a player they really need for a year.

This year may be the best shot Utah has at a title and they need to take it. CJ is replaceable in both the short and long run.

I think it comes down to who you'd rather have, cj or brewer? That's why I think you sign cj and let the two compete, if cj wins, brewer is a free agent and won't have a hard time finding someone to employ him, if brewer just has more to offer, he'll be getting the contract cj is getting now, you hope that you can move cj. cj never really started playing until korver came on board, since then, cj showed some consistency and he had flashes of brilliance you haven't seen from korver, brewer, or harpring. When I saw cj guarding kobe, it really looked like it messed with kbrat. harpring can't guard the two. harpring isn't a commodity that teams want to trade for. if cj is retained i do think there are teams willing to trade for him. i'm not bashing harpring, i'm just saying i think the jazz would benefit by giving cj more minutes, even at the expense of harpring. After korver came on, cj was very productive when given playing time, very productive, it makes me think he's ready to really compete for serious time.
korver is a keeper, no matter what.

You're not factoring in the business side of the NBA. CJ has suggested he hasn't played in the RMR because he wants the insurance of a stable contract before he further risks bodily injury performing against unproven commodities in the summer league. You, along with many others, misunderstand that philosophy for a "poor work ethic," or an "unwillingness to do what is necessary to improve himself." It's just a business decison that happened to pay off handsomely for him and his future family.

As far as your argument about potential vs. performance. I'm sorry but potential is all we can go off of with CJ right now. Reality is, he hasn't received enough consistent playing time for anyone to label him a good, average, or mediocre player as of yet. By NBA standards 3.7 mil a year is a low risk option for OKC to find out if they can realize his potential. It's hard to believe the supporters when they say he'll be great when he leaves, but it's equally hard to believe his detractors when they say he'll amount to nothing. There are just too many unknowns to make any reasonable predictions about his future performance.

Peep's CJ is only 21. Some of you say he hasn't shown much in the time that he has been here. Well young players are inconsistant. I feel like he is ready to be consistant. If you look at what he did when Harpring, AK, and Brewer were injured then that is a clear indication that he has become more consistant. So we need to clear up cap space for the future? Lets See Harpring's time is running out. AK's time is too. Almond isn't the player the jazz thought he would be. CJ is further along and he is younger. As far as not coming to the review.. He obviously knew something all of us including J slo didn't know. OKC was going to offer him a deal. Who's to say that something similar didn't almost happen last year? So to harp on him for that is just dumb. He has to watch out for himself, and if his agent is telling him there are teams interested and to sit out then that's what you do. Anyone would do that! I think people are making to big of a deal out of that. Including sloan!

almond, cj, or brewer, the jazz have to be evaluating the three as the starting two for now and the future, i ahven't seen almond play, so i can't evaluate him-but if the jazz think the guy at the two is almond, cj is gone. i have heard alot of good tings about almond, but i find it hard to believe he is more athletic than cj. cj's quick man, and long.
between cj and brewer, i'd chose cj over brewer, not for right now, but for what cj will become. i don't think brewer is going to get much better than he was last year, not offensively, maybe he might get better on defense. cj has all kinds of room to grow.

but if they think the future is almond, it makes sense to let cj go, bring up almond, and let get some minutes at the end of the bench. it makes sense from a personnel stand point, and fiscally as well.
but if you're letting cj go because of money, i don't think it's a good decision, and will probably be one the jazz regret.

bottom line, cj needs lots of playing time to be good-it's easy for okc to offer that contract because he'll get the playing time there.
if the jazz think he's the best among himself, almond, and brewer, you have to retain him, and give him playing time to develope.
i'd take dwill's word on this, we just know a little bit he said that was in the news, if i were the jazz i'd be interested in knowing who dwill would rather be playing with, who dwill thinks is worth the investment of time and money.
i want to know what dwill eats for breakfast, he's the man, but it's not as important as knowing what he thinks the jazz should do.

Regardless if Miles was right or wrong in skipping the RMR the last 2 years, it seems to me that the Jazz coaching staff know what they're doing and if they felt he should have participated then that's probably what he should have done. I think he has only himself to blame for not getting more mintues in Utah the last couple of seasons because he didn't take every opportunity to develop as a player. If he leaves, I wish him well, but if he stays I hope he can contribute.

cj has no hart for our jazz just $$$$$$$

C.J.SUPP. AMEN,AMEN,

CJ has never learned one thing, and that's to give people what they want! He knows who Sloan is, he knows what Sloan wants. However, he fails to show any signs of passion and heart that Sloan has ALWAYS demanded from his players. He's been wildy inconsistent and that is the reason he's gotten inconsistent playing time. Say what you will about Matt Harpring but you can never question his hard work and determination! He's had a successful career when we look at his natural ability.
Is CJ going to base his success off of Money in the Bank, or how much work he put into the sport of Basketball? That's what he needs to figure out some day.