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West-siders focus on stopping gangs
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The allure of legalization has attracted over 60% of illegals to the United States according to a Border Patrol survey in January 2004.
La Raza wants to remove the magnet? Change your position on legalization.
La Raza is relieved to see illegals arrested? Encourage your members to turn them in.
Methinks La Raza is disingenuous in their comments at the meeting.
Illegal Immigrants
And two more words describe why nobody will do anything about it:
Political Correctness
It is literally killing our country....
While deportation would help the situation, first of all it is not the entire problem. Secondly, on one of the recent incidents the perpertrator WAS DEPORTED and CAME BACK.
My solution:
1) Continue to deport illegals, BUT permenantly mark them on the top side of their hand. Mark them in a way that they will never be able to remove it without it being obvious. If this means tatoo then fine. That way when they go back and change their names they are still marked.
2) I think we need to vote better candidates into office. If you are on government help you should lose your right to vote. Once you are off, you get your rights back. I seriously believe we have a conflict of interest with our current system. Mediocre people continue to vote for mediocracy. Welfare should be there to help, not to support.
Sisyphus was better off!
But we need to work with our kids. In another hand immigration is a hot topic but this is a country of law and laws are to be obey or paid the prize.
But Education and understanding is a priority in how we combat this gangs not hate and persecution or single out people.Gangs are all colors please lets be civil and lets keep support grups that support good values and morals for the sake of the neighbourhoods.
To some of the more racist posts here: Demonizing and dehumanizing "illegals" or any other human being is not going to solve the problem. (branding?! are you kidding me?!) It only makes them worse.
1. They got attention they didn't get at home.
2. Respect. (What they thought was respect).
3. They got a family.
I got the same answer from other ethic gang members also. This is what attract kids to being in gangs and not just latino gangs but GANGS.
You anti-immigration extremists are the ones ruining this country. Immigration does not cause gangs. Alienation causes gangs, and you're extreme stance can only divide and alienate. Shame on you.
It will be very difficult to separate gang violence by illegals with the fact that immigration should have stopped them from being here in the first place.
These gangs are a perfect example. They have no respect for life or our laws, and penalties and consequences are all but non-existent
The immigrant population really don't help the police, they hide the illegal alien criminals. Chief Burbank asked the Legislature not to support the 287g program around the state, because it would cause illegals to fear the police and not help them. It looks like the immigrant folks already have no fear of the police but help support the gang criminals. When police fail to support one law they create a lack of support for other laws. SLC is an example of a sanctuary city.
There are different reasons for different kids.
Some are drawn by parties, girls and drugs.
Some are looking for respect and power.
Some find a feeling of caring and attention in a gang. It becomes almost a family to them.
Some want to make money�to help out at home or to have nice clothes, etc. ...
Some join for self-protection because they are picked on by other gang members.
Some grow up in a neighborhood where it is almost a way of life.
Most have some real or imagined problem at home that makes them prefer the streets.
Some gang members are addicted to drugs. The problems at home can become worse because parents don't know how to cope with their addiction.
If we address these problems than we can get control our gang problems.
If you don't believe this just google it.
Ask a cop read the crime reports, and if 80% of the names in the gang violence type crimes are not Hispanic surnames, I'll eat my hat. Above and beyond the surname, many times the mention of past deportation or involvement with ICE is stated. We are seeing Hispanic gangs such as MS 13 from Mexico, Central America, and LA move into Phoenix, Denver, and Salt Lake City. When they start to fight for territory vs existing gangs, look out. Check out the DUI reports and note the surnames. One SLC family would have not been wiped out had an illegal immigrant driver with 3 prior DUI's, had he been deported one more time. In Mexico, your told to avoid driving at night the roads belong to the drunks. Condemnation of drinking and driving doesn't exist in Mexico.
2. Get rid of all violent games on the computer.
3. Parents be the parent, don't cower to your child.
4. Parents, tough love, search their rooms, forbid gang clothing and if they are doing something illegal, turn them in.
5. Let them sit in jail a few times, it will do them good.
6. Parents and community, have a curfew and enforce it.
7. Teach that retaliation is not the solution, then the little kids get killed, both sides.
8. Teach children not to hold on to anger and hate.
9. The community needs to have zero tolerance and if they see or hear things that are disruptive, call the police, let them handle it.
10. No matter how much extra it costs, all street lights and outside home lights should be on at night.
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