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If he makes 10 percent ... | 2:13 a.m. July 11, 2008
of your income, let's hope you make a lot to pay him a competitive salary.
In fact, I'll hope you get a big pay raise, so he gets paid more, and they
can lower ticket prices.
Fingers crossed.
Fingers crossed.
How absurd | 3:51 a.m. July 11, 2008
How does "I know..." have any idea where his tithing is allocated? My
understanding, which I am certain is better founded than that of most, is that
BYU employees' salaries do not come from tithing.
Those that wish to mix the matters of tithing and college sports ought to review the foundational principles underlying both topics.
Those that wish to mix the matters of tithing and college sports ought to review the foundational principles underlying both topics.
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Peter Sanko | 5:51 a.m. July 11, 2008
So, Mr. or Ms. Go Utes, are you saying that if the BYU athletic director makes
let's say $150,000 you pay that much in tithing on your $1.5 million annual
income. And if you are making $1.5 million it is nice of a Ute supporer to
contribute so generously to BYU athletics. And how do you know it all goes to
one person's salary at BYU? I'm just saying if your comment was
supposed to be critical of Mormons volutarily paying 10 percent of their income
to be used in many worthwhile ways, I missed your point.
Go Xavier | 5:53 a.m. July 11, 2008
These are base salaries only. Louisville AD's total package is over $1
million annually. I'd bet all these athletic directors have additional
amounts added in a bonus structure or separate public appearance payments.
Mark | 6:49 a.m. July 11, 2008
I know: It must be tough on Holmoe, having to live on $1200 a year...
No You Don't | 6:50 a.m. July 11, 2008
He wouldn't work for 10% of what you make pumping gas. More likely
it's 10% of Football and Basketball ticket sales.
Chuck Farley | 7:00 a.m. July 11, 2008
Poor Holmoe, he's makes 10% of food stamps.
Re: I know.... | 7:04 a.m. July 11, 2008
Classy....... But we don't expect anything else.
CougarBlue | 7:19 a.m. July 11, 2008
Where is the comparison of the other MWC directors, besides Utah and BYU.
To I know: | 7:25 a.m. July 11, 2008
I'm pretty sure he makes more than 10% of your $150.00 per week lemonade
stand income, you buffoon...
Snow? | 7:30 a.m. July 11, 2008
Why wasn't the Snow A.D.'s information available? Snow is a
state-owned school and should report all salaries.
Anonymous | 7:34 a.m. July 11, 2008
Wouldn't it be great if all this funding and talent and energy went to the
faculty of medicine? Or engineering? We will all need a doctor someday. Never in
my life will I 'need' a basketball player.
John | 7:50 a.m. July 11, 2008
Since you seem to be ignorant of the facts let me educate you. BYU athletics do
not use any tithing funds. It is entirely self sufficient on receipts and
donations. But coaches and administrators at Utah do draw from public funds.
So who really has the right to be upset? I would say BYU fans that happen to
live in Utah. LOL
If that is all the smack you got then the well has run pretty dry.
If that is all the smack you got then the well has run pretty dry.
BYU | 7:57 a.m. July 11, 2008
If the BYU A.D. takes 10% of all the Ute fans incomes he must be one poor dude.
That is the one nice thing about being a Ute fan, on Saturday afternoons you
have plenty of room to spred out at the R.E.S.
Good one...... | 8:03 a.m. July 11, 2008
Ute fans are so original. But i think he makes more than $10 a year...... Now
I'm as funny as you.
RE: I know... | 8:06 a.m. July 11, 2008
You pay BYU AD's salary?
Needs money for phone calls | 8:10 a.m. July 11, 2008
I am sure Homoe makes a lot of money. He needs the extra for Mendenhall to make
those phone calls to mission presidents and missionaries about coming to play
for BYU. They are never going to tell you how much he makes but I can tell you
it is a "ton" of money.
Dr. | 8:29 a.m. July 11, 2008
Dr. Hill is a quack.
Thanks | 8:30 a.m. July 11, 2008
I would like to thank all the Mormon Ute fans that helped subsidize my eduation
at BYU.
Not So Fast | 8:42 a.m. July 11, 2008
It may be that my Tithing money doesn't pay for BYU athletics. However, I
also thought that BYU DID NOT recruit missionaries while they are on their
missions, and we all know that isn't true now that Riley Nelson is a
Cougar!!!
Belgie | 8:52 a.m. July 11, 2008
Anonymous said: "Wouldn't it be great if all this funding and talent
and energy went to the faculty of medicine? Or engineering? We will all need a
doctor someday. Never in my life will I 'need' a basketball
player."
The next time you are thinking of going to a movie or buying a novel, you better contribute that cash to the betterment of medicine.
The next time you are thinking of going to a movie or buying a novel, you better contribute that cash to the betterment of medicine.
My 10% | 8:53 a.m. July 11, 2008
I'm not subsidizing your "education" at BYU, Thanks. On the
front of my tithing envelopes every week I write "not to be used by
BYU." True story.
I wonder what my zoob-loving bishop thinks of that?
I wonder what my zoob-loving bishop thinks of that?
don't want to be that guy | 9:00 a.m. July 11, 2008
I'd hate to be Kevin White at Snow. The article says he's "unable
to get salary".
Lighten up Cougar Fans | 9:06 a.m. July 11, 2008
How about you roll with the punches. The dude that first posted has probably
ruined all of your days now. Man that tithing comment is really getting under
your skin isn't it. Take a chill pill, count to ten, sing a hymn, maybe
even say a prayer. Don't take things so personal.
tabbed as Top 20? | 9:12 a.m. July 11, 2008
This article says that in 2002 utah's athletic program was tabbed as top 20
overall by US News and World Report. Are you kidding me?? US News and World
Report?!! Since when did they become the big "sports authority"? It
wasn't even ESPN or Sports Illustrated that gave them that
"recognition"! It was freakin' US News and World Report!! So
what's up next for them? Big kudos from the Girl Scouts or the American
Dental Association?
Why... | 9:22 a.m. July 11, 2008
Deseret News is pretty biased in all of these message boards. I think they are
the ones who are funding BYU sports
Texas Cougar | 9:30 a.m. July 11, 2008
I'm a BYU fan, but "I know"'s comment was pretty funny.
I've actually heard about people writing "not to be used by BYU" on their tithing slips before. I wish those people would just stop paying tithing. It kind of defeats the purpose of giving the Lord something (which is already his), and then telling him what to do with it.
That said, I wonder what it feels like for all of these people having their salaries as public record?
I've actually heard about people writing "not to be used by BYU" on their tithing slips before. I wish those people would just stop paying tithing. It kind of defeats the purpose of giving the Lord something (which is already his), and then telling him what to do with it.
That said, I wonder what it feels like for all of these people having their salaries as public record?
Government jobs | 9:40 a.m. July 11, 2008
Nice use of tax dollars since I can correctly assume that the state universities
are publicly funded.
i.e. Most AD jobs are government jobs funded from the taxpayers (BYU and other private schools excepted)
Please raise my taxes so they can make more money! (tongue in cheek)
i.e. Most AD jobs are government jobs funded from the taxpayers (BYU and other private schools excepted)
Please raise my taxes so they can make more money! (tongue in cheek)
Klaus | 9:45 a.m. July 11, 2008
This I know (I know...), First, my taxes help pay the salaries of every A.D. and
build buildings at every public institution in Utah. I have no choice. Second,
my voluntary tithing helps pay the salary of the A.D. and build buildings at
BYU. Somehow I feel better about the money I voluntarily send to BYU. Go
Cougars.
Insider | 9:54 a.m. July 11, 2008
I happen to have connections at BYU and know how much Holmoe and others are
making. I cannot disclose it, but I can assure you it is very competitive with
other schools BYU's size and with similar athletic programs. When BYU
professors and staff, including the AD, complain about their low pay, they are
just whining. They are FAR from starving, I promise you!
Tax exempt for Utah | 9:59 a.m. July 11, 2008
Thanks to the suggestions from Utah bloggers, I'm going to write "NOT
to be used by University of Utah athletics" on all of my Utah State tax
checks from now on.
Chrissy Hill | 10:03 a.m. July 11, 2008
I think Dr. Hill should make 3 times what he does, after all he spent more and
more money to keep Whit at Utah and BYU ended up with Bronco. What a great thing
Dr. Hill did for BYU in this case. As a BYU fan I think all cougar faithful
should be sending him thank you presents every month. Without him we would have
dim Whit as our coach...
Thank You very much Dr. Hill for up the ante on Whit.
Thank You very much Dr. Hill for up the ante on Whit.
"not to be used at BYU" | 10:04 a.m. July 11, 2008
That is pretty funny. What's even more funny is that you don't get to
direct the allocation of your tithing funds, so it still goes to BYU. Thanks,
by the way, my wife and I really appreciated it, and my kids will too.
Really dumb | 10:25 a.m. July 11, 2008
Yeh, and I write on my Utah state tax return, "Not to be used for the ewe
of ewe."
George Williams | 10:28 a.m. July 11, 2008
Honestly, BYU fans are the most paranoid, thin-skinned group of people on the
planet.
Get a life. We all know Homoe's not paid through tithing. Come down of the soapbox, have a sanka and relax.
Get a life. We all know Homoe's not paid through tithing. Come down of the soapbox, have a sanka and relax.
Poor BYU Fans/students/Faculty | 10:40 a.m. July 11, 2008
Hilarious that all these BYUers are so poor that they need tithing to get them
through school. I guess you are all being good mormons and are being grateful
for what others give you. After all the church does have a good welfare system.
I mean when I see cougar fans driving those cougar vans, you know the ones, the
old dodge voyagers and ford windstars that have all these byu stickers on them,
usually found parked in the D.I. parking lots. I can't help but feel bad
for them when I see them. So I don't feel bad that my tithing goes to them
and their starving students. Hey I'll even throw in some extra this week.
John | 10:47 a.m. July 11, 2008
George,
We all know that and so do you. My comment was just to get under his skin. The fact that he feels compelled to put such comments on his tithing envelope tells us all who has the thin skin, Utah fans are very thin skinned. They lived in the shadow of BYU for years, then had a couple of good season, started calling the MWC the UBC (ask them what it means) and suddenly the floor fell out.
I don't begrudge what Hill makes or Whittingham. More power to them. But if an LDS person does not want his money to fund BYU then he should go speak to the First Presidency. I sure want that kind of say so with all of my federal tax dollars, but I think they will ignore me just as he will be ignored. The only difference is they will politely talk to him, the IRS will just tell me to buzz off.
We all know that and so do you. My comment was just to get under his skin. The fact that he feels compelled to put such comments on his tithing envelope tells us all who has the thin skin, Utah fans are very thin skinned. They lived in the shadow of BYU for years, then had a couple of good season, started calling the MWC the UBC (ask them what it means) and suddenly the floor fell out.
I don't begrudge what Hill makes or Whittingham. More power to them. But if an LDS person does not want his money to fund BYU then he should go speak to the First Presidency. I sure want that kind of say so with all of my federal tax dollars, but I think they will ignore me just as he will be ignored. The only difference is they will politely talk to him, the IRS will just tell me to buzz off.
Alma the Wiser | 10:55 a.m. July 11, 2008
CLUELESS BYU FANS
I can't believe how many of you took the bait from 'I Know'
Just goes to show what a BYU education is worth.
Hilarious!
I can't believe how many of you took the bait from 'I Know'
Just goes to show what a BYU education is worth.
Hilarious!
Dave | 10:57 a.m. July 11, 2008
Thanks to all for your entertaining comments. What you all really mean is
"I wish I was making that kind of money" because you all sound like
whiners which nearly all BYU (in a sweet, innocent, higher pitched,
condescending tone) and U of U (more of a slurred, less intelligible tone) fans
are of course. It's nice to be above all of you're bickering up here
in Logan where we understand that research of bio-fuels is much, much more
important than athletics. nudge, nudge, say no more.
Hey Dave | 11:14 a.m. July 11, 2008
Go USU pffffff. Try and win, what 2 games this year. pfffff. How about reading
the other article on here about the U's research on nicotine. You might
learn something.
Logan | 11:22 a.m. July 11, 2008
Keep up the good work on bio-fuels. If you ever get an athletic program, perhaps
you will feel comfortable claiming it, nudge, nudge. In the meantime, keep
pretending that it doesn't matter.
Ben | 11:36 a.m. July 11, 2008
What Utah State SHOULD do is join with schools who they have more in common with
financially. Utah State, Montana, Idaho State, Montana State, maybe Weber
State... Less travel, more interest, and more importantly, less money going
down the drain.
Just Perfect | 11:36 a.m. July 11, 2008
Some guy makes an off the wall comment just to get a rise out of BYU supporters.
Surely, with these reactions in mind, he'll continue to make sure he is
the first to comment on every article.
Lighten up and quit being so darn touchy.
Lighten up and quit being so darn touchy.
Poor ewe Fans/students/Faculty | 11:39 a.m. July 11, 2008
Hilarious that all these ewes are so poor that they need public subsidies to get
them through school. I guess you are all being good citizens and are being
grateful for what others give you. After all the state does have a good welfare
system. I mean when I see the ewes driving those rusted V-double-ewes, you know
the ones that have all these ewe stickers on them, usually found parked on the
street. I can't help but feel bad for them when I see them. So I don't
feel bad that my state income tax dollars go to them and their starving
students. Hey, I'll even buy a couple of extra items this week to increase
the sales tax coffers to help them a little more."
iceblue | 11:48 a.m. July 11, 2008
There are no coaches or AD's at BYU paid by tithing funds of the Church of
Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. If anyone blogging here knew of the care
exercised with the disposition of tithing funds you would never speak
disrespectfully of that process.
Point of View | 11:46 a.m. July 11, 2008
The thing about BYU that really gets people is this (just explaining one point
of view here):
All church members are supposed to pay tithing. Only a fraction of the members around the world get a chance to get a nearly free (and quality) education at BYU. Those who do go to BYU are probably the few who could actually afford to pay for an education themselves.
The "exclusivity" factor of that school along with the thought that their money MIGHT BE going to BYU athletics is what makes LDS people write "not to go to BYU" on their tithing slips. Whether or not it's effective, at least they have a chance to voice their displeasure which is not always an easy thing to do in the church.
All church members are supposed to pay tithing. Only a fraction of the members around the world get a chance to get a nearly free (and quality) education at BYU. Those who do go to BYU are probably the few who could actually afford to pay for an education themselves.
The "exclusivity" factor of that school along with the thought that their money MIGHT BE going to BYU athletics is what makes LDS people write "not to go to BYU" on their tithing slips. Whether or not it's effective, at least they have a chance to voice their displeasure which is not always an easy thing to do in the church.
Anonymous | 11:48 a.m. July 11, 2008
Belgie,
The movie or book wasn't created with funds paid by a university. My point was, and is, that too many post secondary schools have become merely support systems for the corporate sport world, relegating what should be their focus, academics, to second place status at best. It's not their fault, but rather a symptom of the focus of society on the superficial, the celebrity, the athlete. Our dumbing down. It's why we don't do well anymore at creating engineers and scientists, and are falling behind other countries. And it's why I think schools should get out of the entertainment business. It won't happen, and it's not the end of the world, but it is my opinion...
The movie or book wasn't created with funds paid by a university. My point was, and is, that too many post secondary schools have become merely support systems for the corporate sport world, relegating what should be their focus, academics, to second place status at best. It's not their fault, but rather a symptom of the focus of society on the superficial, the celebrity, the athlete. Our dumbing down. It's why we don't do well anymore at creating engineers and scientists, and are falling behind other countries. And it's why I think schools should get out of the entertainment business. It won't happen, and it's not the end of the world, but it is my opinion...
Future Opponent | 11:53 a.m. July 11, 2008
"Bill Martin, Michigan: $369,289 � You'd think
the leader in Ann Arbor would make more, but he's not hurting for dough:
the real-estate mogul leases land to the university to the tune of $220,000 per
month."
The guy makes 220K a month leasing his front yard to the university? SWEET!
The guy makes 220K a month leasing his front yard to the university? SWEET!
blah blah blah | 11:53 a.m. July 11, 2008
One ute comment from "I know" sparks a wildfire on this board. Why are
all you BYU fans so defensive?
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