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Published: Friday, July 4 2008 12:29 p.m. MDT

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like we didn't know.

I think we all new Cory was a long

Not Needed

There really is not a need for Maggette IMO. What we need is a better frontcourt. We need to unclog the 2 and 5 positions. Maybe rid ourselves of Collins, Harpring, Miles, etc. We could use them to get a reliable backup to Memo and D-Will. But, right now Maggette is not the answer.

BBKing

The fact that Mr Magette even entertains the likes of Golden State and the Sixers tells me he is more focused on money than winning. Compare this to other big name free agents who have turned down more money to be part of a winning team, even taking a less prominent role on the new team. That shows a strong team spirit, sacrifice and a strong competitive spirit. Going to Golden State for money is just plain old the wrong answer, in my book.

The Jazz will be better off without him.

Now to get Boozer to play defense.

MTN

Bring Back Doleac! Bring Back Doleac! Sign and trade Collins' expiring contract for Michael Doleac, give him a similar role to Collins AND HAVE HIM TUTORING FES AND KOUSTOS EVERY DAY ALL YEAR. That's the best thing the Jazz can do for next year outside of trading Boozer AND AK for Larry Bird circa 1985.

Let's also hope CJ can get on the floor some more this year along with Fesenko. Both have potential on both ends of the floor.

Bring Back Doleac! Bring Back Doleac! Say it with me, everyone, Bring Back Doleac!!!

JazzFanInHouston

Turiaf would be a whole lot cheaper and a much better defender. Further, he can play 3 and 4 (or sometimes 5) if required. He also would add a 1 and 1/2 blocks a game.

Maggette would duplicate Korver as a shooter (Maggette does slash better)and neither defend that well. Give Korver more minutes and you essentially have Maggette.

The Jazz have interest in Pargo. They lost both defense and offense when they lost Fisher. Adding Korver spaced the floor and fixed part of that problem. However, an experienced combo guard may increase the efficiency of the bench.

looktothesky

I am sad that you guys think that he will not sign with the jazz, we have become one of the most sought after team in the world, everybody likes us now in a certain way. I know that maggette is considering playing with deron and boozer, what do you think that he thinks about before he goes to bed, it is not about the city, but the players you have around you.

RE:Turiaf

I agree. DEE-fense, DEE-fense.

rich

i've been a jass fan since the N.O. PISTOL PETE days.i know the Jazz don't need anymore offensive players on this team for the next few years.the Jazz are @ the top of the league in scoring.The perfit fit for this team is a tuff player with grit who doesn't back down & can guard the #2's in the league like nobody else.the Jazz can never guard the 2's of the league.A.K.-47 IS A TERRIBLE PERRIMITER defender,Ronnie's too soft with Harping our best (who's very tuff & takes too many elbows to his jaw). Mr. O'Conner we need RAJA BELL.Kobe knows better to elbow RAJA.GET RAJA @ ANY COST.While in Utah, RAJA put up good numbers for minutes played.RAJA can guard the likes of kobe,Manu,Tracey.RAJA IS A BETTER VERSION OF Bruce Bowen.THIS TRADE HAS TO BE DONE.RAJA IS GOOD FOR ANOTHER THREE YEARS.THE JAZZ WINDOWN OF OPPORTUNITY IS NOW !!!!!!!!!!

Sokol

I tend to agree with the Magette not really seeking
a good team like the Jazz...Alot of folks do not
like Sloan's old timie approach...I personally think
Turiaf and Millsap together would be high Mick
Jaggar kind of energy.

wakka wakka wakka

@JazzFanInHouston- Turiaf is no 3. He's about 6'9'' 260 pounds (or that's what he was at Gonzaga about)... He has athleticism for a man that size, but still is certainly far from mobile enough to guard 3's. Not to mention that he has trouble on every shot outside 10 feet. I like him though, and he is a tough interior player, which would be nice. But Millsap would still play over him if he were here.

Turiaf

He's hands down the best towel-waver in the league, so you gotta give him that...

Maggette...

Do people ever read anything else? Maggette was quoted just the other day that he is in search of a championship, that he has played for a long time and that money isn't going to make his decision. In my opinion, I feel like that Jazz have as big of a shot as anyone else, especially if Maggette is looking for a multi year deal. Say Maggette signs for 5 years, with any team. What team does Boston have 3 years from now or even San Antonio? If you look at the Jazz, long term, it's exactly what Maggette wants in a championship caliber team. Also, we know Maggette has no problems with the city. He loved it here when he signed our offer sheet and he was doing his best to get LA not to match. All the Jazz need to do is figure out what they want to give up to get him here. He would be a perfect compliment to the Williams and Boozer show, that is when Boozer wants to play hard.

re: MTN

I can't believe this guy wants Doleac on the jazz. Just because a player went to school in Utah doesn't mean he is going to be a excellent player for the jazz. But I do agree that Collins should go. Hart should go as well.

JazzFanInHouston

Note: the eff ratings per 48 minutes are Millsap 26.43, Maggette 25.77, Turiaf 24.99, Kirilenko 24.75 (similar to Scola). I would tend to agree that Turiaf would have trouble with many 3 players. However, there times when a big line up would be helpful.

The eff ratings do not capture the true and complete value of any one individual player but Millsap,Turiaf and Scola are a lot cheaper per eff rating. However, they lack the experience and playing time of Maggette and Kirlenko.

What may help the most is for Kirilenko to improve his shooting eff and for Korver to improve his defense. We also need a stronger bench.

Mark

JazzFanInHouston: Took me a minute, at first I thought you were swearing, as in 'effin ratings'.

How do you get one for the other and keep money balanced?

Rick Majerus

Doleac?!?! Dude, are you high?

JazzFanInHouston

I am not thrilled with Turiaf the only reason I mentioned him is that the Jazz have shown interest in him. The eff ratings are averages based on a season of play. They do not measure how well a player matches up against key teams like the Lakers and Spurs.

We have a window of a couple of years. The Jazz need to add better team defense to beat both LA and SA. Utah's offense can also be throttled at times by both teams. Maggette would add scoring punch but he is weak defensively. I suspect the best approach is to upgrade the bench.

I suspect that the Jazz are looking players who have good eff rating but low salaries who match up well with key teams. That means young players with capability but not a lot of playing time or old players who want to play for a winner.

The Jazz may be able to rent a couple of pretty good players backups for a year or two and make a run.

Frtiz

The Jazz need defense. I think Turiaf would be add that toughness the Jazz bigmen seriously lack. They need that Big Dog attitude if they are going to get better. Without it, they are a 1st or 2nd round exiting team.
The other issue, we may lose Boozer next year, and Memo for that matter. While these two play defense like a couple of old women their offensive and rebounding games are excellent and draw double and triple team defense; that is a tremendous help to our offense and scoring capability. The addition of Turiaf adds that needed bone crusher to make the other team uncomfortable in their offense.
While it would be fun to pretent Maggette has a one in a hundred chance of signing with Utah, it's not necessary. If we, by some bizarre miracle, got him to sign a contract, I'd be happy, but I really don't see him helping us get deeper in the playoffs. A guy like Turiaf adds the intangibles that I think will help us get that needed killer instinct.

Anonymous

You all need to get real.

The Jazz will do like they always do.

Which is almost nothing, that is, if you consider last year's signing hart almost nothing.

As a result the jazz will almost win a championship.

Again.

Dick

Here's a real shocker. An A+ shooter not wanting to play for a Sloan coached team that runs 2 plays.

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