Comments about ‘Texas county doesn't want FLDS raid costs’
It asks lawmakers to bill CPS for FLDS financial fallout
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Everyone better be careful driveing thru the county now that Doran will have to write a lot of tickets to generate revenue to pay the raid costs........lol
Maybe the citizens that wanted something done about "those people" can hold a bake sale or even sell a few more tee-shirts with the "Pologamy Capital of Texas" written on the front.
Gee wiz guys.....isn't it just a shame that there isn't enough money in the budget to get rid of the $450,000 a year taxpayer.
Quit whineing.....the Gov already said that the state would handle the shortfall.....the rest of the citizens of Texas will have to pay for this mess created by your hysteria.
I see where the head of CPS has already run off to hide in retirement. I wonder how much per year he will cost the Texas Taxpayers? Under his direction the Texas CPS has earned a well deserved reputation for outrageous lack of control, including haveing children under their care murdered and raped. There are citizens of this state that wouldn't take the word of the 'Gov' to give an accurate time of day. If the state can pass the cost of CPS' idiotic actions on to others they will.
all that money spent, and the kids still went back to the repressive isolationist slave camp called FLDS. What a waste.
Anyone buying the clothes being manufactured in sweat-shop conditions by the FLDS slave-women? If so, you're helping keep these women glued to sewing machines for minimum wage, and they won't see most of the money - it will go to the church leaders for disposition. Better you give them shelter and try to show them the world is not against them - but their own men are. Then maybe they can have a real life.
Someone posted "this is like watching a train wreck in slow-motion" I agree with their assessment.
RC, you have the FLDS confused with the Moonies. Come on, you had a credible though slanted argument last week regarding them not being able to make decisions; let's not blow it this week with accusations of sweat shops. We are starting to think you are just doing this to get attention for yourself.
RC, everyone agrees that the $14+ Million was wasted but, when you elect bad officials and give them the ability to abuse their authority, sooner or later you have to pay the Piper. We all remember how the Piper story ended. Ironic.
really not sure what you don't understand, grandpa phil.
The FLDS trains their children to conceal and accept abuse, and puts such fears of the outside world into their heads that they must forsake their future. It's ridiculous.
And I really don't care whether you find me credible. You sticking up for these people just shows you don't find their treatment of women and children troubling, whereas I find it morally reprehensible.
To each his own, but most people cannot even imagine how repressive the FLDS regime is, whereas I can directly relate - since I experienced the same thing in a Vietnam prison camp.
If you don't think the women work in sweatshops, what do you think? They have benefits and make a decent wage?
Grandpa - how about you open your eyes and stop trying to justify their actions. You are beginning to sound like FLDS....
To RealityCheck: How do you know it is sweatshop conditions for the FLDS ladies? Do you know this is a truly repressive society? There have been so many stories told, proved to be untrue.
If you mean by a repressive society children cared for by loving mothers, taught manners and modesty, meals of homegrown foods, which the children probably help raise. A world without "MySpace," and the trash on TV. Well, maybe we need to be a little more repressive.
I admire the FLDS ladies for their enterprise. More power to them, if the clothes fit any of my grandchildren I would have my order in!
LOL. Granny - you're kidding, right? These people have a total lack of civil rights and freedom and you find that acceptable? You too must care much more about your religion than you care for the civil rights of these children.
You go ahead and order some clothes from them. You can propogate the repression. I suggest you pick up some blood diamonds while you are at it.
Then, if you really want to help, adopt one of these kids and send him/her to college, let them fall in love and get married to someone they actually want to marry, let them have children that will have a full range of choices in life, and let them pursue a career of their own choosing. Then you can say you not only helped, but you saved an entire family from a life of servitude.
The life choices of FLDS children are SEVERLY limited - surely you must see that. Pick 100 careers and ask yourself how many the FLDS children can pursue. Perhaps 1 or 2 if you're lucky. I'm waiting for an FLDS boy or girl to grow up and run for Congress. Instead, they will sew or saw.
It's funny to me that outrage over the supposed abuse of 450 children has turned to concern over the cost of taking illegal action against the citizens of the State of Texas. The original planners of the action were on a quest. The cost of that quest in both human terms as well as dollars was the furthest thing from their minds. I believe that $14,000,000 will prove to be just a drop in the bucket when all the financial costs of this fiasco are finally totaled up. It is a good thing that the Texas state government has deep pockets. I also worry that no one will ever determine the extent of the human costs to the children. I hope and pray that the children have not been permenantly damaged psychologically from the raid.
Repressive, sweat shop, slave, regime can now be added to escape, waterboarding, and lost boys, cult.
Throw in a few more words like stareing and we can create a dossier on the whole bunch.
Whoops we already have........
RC, the parents warned their children that the outside world would persecute them and that the standards outside were decadent. Then, along came CPS who justified a thousand times over, everything their parents had warned them about. Guess the parents were right; you cab BET that is how the children see it now. You are right about one thing, at this point, I see nothing reprehensible about they way they treat their children. I don't live there and see what goes on every day, but what you describe as reprehensible is something I choose to call a parents' God-given right to raise their children as they see fit. We have had this same discussion a dozen times and you still don't get it. I don't care if those big bad North Vietnamese guys refused to let you go to college or make your own decisions. They weren't that mean to me; they only shot at me but I got to shoot back. Stop putting your standards of parental upbringing on everybody else and raise your own kids any way you want. And see a VA doctor about that persecution anxiety thing you have; it is treatable.
It would tickle me NO END to see an FLDS run for Congress. Maybe then, we'll get some laws passed that will rein in CPS abuses nationwide. He/she could count on my vote.
May Texas pay,pay,pay! :-)
GP - obviously you still don't get it. What you would shout at the top of your lungs in approval, I would spend a lifetime trying to stop. Guess that's why this is called the land of the free.
Too bad the children will never benefit from the freedom.
Stop putting your standards of parental upbringing on everyone else by saying that it is a parent's right to deny basic civil rights to their children. It's wrong. And see a shrink for that lack of understanding you seem to have. You would perserve a society that forbids basic human rights and then give me a hard time for criticising it? Open your eyes, gramps - you're not so old that you cannot see, are you?
It's too bad you cannot grasp freedom. Otherwise you would have a different stance on the subject of the isolation and servitude of children. Don't let religion cloud your mind from seeing the lack of freedom these victims are enduring. You're beginning to sound like FLDS.....
"It's too bad you cannot grasp freedom."
"Too bad the children will never benefit from the freedom"
They will probably benifit from all that lawsuit money however....waco was 2.5 million per......"DO GOODERS are real goodIt's too bad you cannot grasp freedom. at spending other's money....this wassuch a bad thing going on there yoIt's too bad you cannot grasp freedom.u would think they wouldall have done it PRO BONO.
never said what Texas did was smart, nor right. Just said that the FLDS parents have no clue on how to raise children without subjecting the children to civil rights abuses and a loss of future options.
not all that difficult to understand...
RC, I don't care what their religion is; they are PARENTS and they have inalienable rights to do all of the things you don't approve of. I would preserve every parents' rights to the care, nurturing, maintenance and custody of their children, PERIOD. You claim to know what these kids can and can't do. You claim to know what they are going through. You claim to know what their parents are doing to them. All this, despite all of the FLDS parents who have entered comments telling you that you do not know what you are talking about. I don't know them any better than I know you, but I believe THEM. Freedom is something truly appreciated by those who have had to fight for it. It is barely understood by those who are protected. I have served in three overseas wars and one "police action" I can't even talk about. I understand freedom just fine and have earned the right to stand up for theirs (FLDS) when I see government officials and bigots trying to deny them their rights. I don't advocate my standards over theirs as you do; I say leave them to their own.
RC, the only entity I know that expouses civil rights of children as you do is the UN. The day those laws become US laws is the day we all lose.
I'll make this real simple for GP and the rest of the FLDS supporters...
any parent that does not allow a girl/woman to choose her own husband is a terrible parent.
any parent that does not allow their child to experience variety in their youth is a bad parent.
any parent that teaches that a child will be damned if they do not follow strict religious doctrines that have nothing to do with morals is a bad parent.
any parent that disowns their child for living a moral life as the person see fit, is a bad parent.
And any parent that chooses their religion over their husband, wife, or child is unfit to be a parent.
easy enough to understand? You realize that FLDS parents fail all 5 tests? 'nuff said.
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