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News analysis: Cannon: Disunity besets U.S., Utah GOP
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Confused Voter | 12:28 a.m. June 26, 2008
Why are there so many different primary elections? In the odd years the Primary
election is in October, a much more convenient time for voters. On the even
years(2008, 2010,etc. the primary is in June, just before the 4th of July,when
many people are vacationing, as their children are out of school and the Utah
weather is nice.
Then this year there was a primary in February. Why can't we consolidate and organize the Primary election confusion?
Maybe more people would vote if things were consistent!
Then this year there was a primary in February. Why can't we consolidate and organize the Primary election confusion?
Maybe more people would vote if things were consistent!
Funny | 12:39 a.m. June 26, 2008
Isn't it funny to see a politician crying about losing their job! I think
that most of these politicians need to be moved out and thats not just in this
state it's nationally. How about getting these politicains that are life
long doers of mostly nothing to get a real job and stop pretending to represent
the middle class when they've probably never been middle class in their
lives!!!!
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Stop Closed Primaries | 12:43 a.m. June 26, 2008
The GOP have no one to blame but themselves for creating a closed primary where
only Republicans can vote.
If they don't want any voters, they got what they wanted this year!
Congratulations!
If they don't want any voters, they got what they wanted this year!
Congratulations!
Joe Moe | 12:43 a.m. June 26, 2008
To assume that he lost because of low turnout assumes that everyone who
didn't vote would have voted for him, or at least that more Cannon
supporters didn't vote than Chaffetz supporters. Illogical.
Cannon lost for two reasons: dissatisfaction with all things D.C. nowadays, and illegal immigration. GOP voters have spoken.
Mr. Cannon provided a lot of service and was a decent representative for a dozen years. But he made a few mistakes, and you can't please all the people all the time. I wish him well in his future.
Cannon lost for two reasons: dissatisfaction with all things D.C. nowadays, and illegal immigration. GOP voters have spoken.
Mr. Cannon provided a lot of service and was a decent representative for a dozen years. But he made a few mistakes, and you can't please all the people all the time. I wish him well in his future.
Anonymous | 12:56 a.m. June 26, 2008
There's just no critiquing this article - every last word of it reveals the
arrogance, condescension, and denial present in not just Cannon but in so much
of the Republican establishment, including Orrin Hatch, who now apparently
thinks 3rd district voters are "stupid."
Citizens live our lives. We elect congressmen to serve our interests. If those congressmen don't understand why citizens are upset then it's their fault, not ours.
Those "boorish" booers at the state convention? They get maybe one chance every few years to speak directly to their supposed representatives, who in turn speak TO us constantly in a fawning Utah press uncritical of incumbents.
Years ago a guy named Ronald Reagan remade conservatism and the Republican Party by making a deal with Americans: if you're honest, play by the rules, work hard, and make wise choices, you'll be able to provide for your family and maybe have a little extra for fun. The current GOP leaderhip has completely abandoned that. The blue collar Republican voters - the ones who compete at work and in their neighborhoods with illegal immigrants - are leaving the building in droves.
Citizens live our lives. We elect congressmen to serve our interests. If those congressmen don't understand why citizens are upset then it's their fault, not ours.
Those "boorish" booers at the state convention? They get maybe one chance every few years to speak directly to their supposed representatives, who in turn speak TO us constantly in a fawning Utah press uncritical of incumbents.
Years ago a guy named Ronald Reagan remade conservatism and the Republican Party by making a deal with Americans: if you're honest, play by the rules, work hard, and make wise choices, you'll be able to provide for your family and maybe have a little extra for fun. The current GOP leaderhip has completely abandoned that. The blue collar Republican voters - the ones who compete at work and in their neighborhoods with illegal immigrants - are leaving the building in droves.
Anonymous | 1:13 a.m. June 26, 2008
*** "To assume that he lost because of low turnout assumes that everyone
who didn't vote would have voted for him, or at least that more Cannon
supporters didn't vote than Chaffetz supporters. Illogical." ***
The man is in total and complete denial. Every negative aspect of the man is coming out in the post-election news. He's disturbed, disrespectful, deceptive and meanspirited. In 2004 his defeated primary opponent, Matt Throckmorton, immediately endorsed Cannon in his concession speech. Jacob did the same in 2006. But Chris Cannon has yet to endorse Cahheftz ffor November, and is even suggesting (which probably means hoping) Chaffetz will lose.
The excuse of low voter turnout just doesn't play. In pre-primary polls of the whole district he was barely tied with Chaffetz, and 16% were undecided - which in a year as bad as this won't break for the incumbent.
Low turnout? What's a "good turnout" year - 2006? In 2006 14,000 more people showed up than Tuesday. Chaffetz won by over 9,000 votes. So the only way Cannon would've won with 14,000 more people at the polls is if 11,500 of them (82%) voted for him. Sure, Chris.
The man is in total and complete denial. Every negative aspect of the man is coming out in the post-election news. He's disturbed, disrespectful, deceptive and meanspirited. In 2004 his defeated primary opponent, Matt Throckmorton, immediately endorsed Cannon in his concession speech. Jacob did the same in 2006. But Chris Cannon has yet to endorse Cahheftz ffor November, and is even suggesting (which probably means hoping) Chaffetz will lose.
The excuse of low voter turnout just doesn't play. In pre-primary polls of the whole district he was barely tied with Chaffetz, and 16% were undecided - which in a year as bad as this won't break for the incumbent.
Low turnout? What's a "good turnout" year - 2006? In 2006 14,000 more people showed up than Tuesday. Chaffetz won by over 9,000 votes. So the only way Cannon would've won with 14,000 more people at the polls is if 11,500 of them (82%) voted for him. Sure, Chris.
Anonymous | 1:13 a.m. June 26, 2008
So, by defeating an incombant who isn't servicing his constituency, we are
labeled "stupid"? Mr. Hatch, with all due respect, you could be in
line for the same fate. You've had a long tenure and served well for most
of that time, but no one is safe in this political climate. Smart people, stupid
people, we each get a vote.
Ya know Joe | 1:14 a.m. June 26, 2008
your canstunich were just fed-up with your repersenting yourself and not those
in your voting distric. I believe there's are a lot of people who were
just tired of your nonsence. Just think of it this way the majority of those
votes were from the same relegious affilations that you have. Maybe this is
there way of telling you something. What would that be?
wrz | 1:18 a.m. June 26, 2008
***But Cannon said he believes he lost for one main reason: very low voter
turnout.***
No Chris. The reason you lost is because of your wishy-washy position on illegal immigration. Utah voters want firm and decisive action. They want illegal immigration stopped! They want illegals kicked out. The border fence is not the way. Absolute enforcement of illegal immigrant labor laws is.
Utah is tired of putting up with 5 to 7 cable channels carrying Spanish programs. I'm paying for TV channels I can't understand. Utah is tired of the presence of Spanish written everywhere you look. And tired of providing free education and health care for illegals and their children.
That's why you lost, Chris.
No Chris. The reason you lost is because of your wishy-washy position on illegal immigration. Utah voters want firm and decisive action. They want illegal immigration stopped! They want illegals kicked out. The border fence is not the way. Absolute enforcement of illegal immigrant labor laws is.
Utah is tired of putting up with 5 to 7 cable channels carrying Spanish programs. I'm paying for TV channels I can't understand. Utah is tired of the presence of Spanish written everywhere you look. And tired of providing free education and health care for illegals and their children.
That's why you lost, Chris.
Apalled | 1:21 a.m. June 26, 2008
I hope Doug Wright doesn't get made about Cannon stealing his Lavell
Edwards stadium analogy. It appears that Cannon is out of touch, even after
this smackdown. I think Cannon doomed himself by admitting on KSL that he
stands by the words he used at the 2002 Maldef awards.
I could easily see Bennett getting ousted in two years, especially if he continues to ignore his constituents and vote for things like the massive immigration amnesty proposed by McCain/Kennedy last year.
I went to his Provo office a couple years ago with some friends who were State delegates and his local staff was combative and rude to us as we tried to express our feelings about Bennetts' votes in favor of amnesties. Despite hundreds of calls and faxes, he still voted wrong on amnesty last year.
At least Hatch has enough political savvy to realize that Utahns are paying attention to immigration issues.
It's hilarious that Cannon wants to start his own version of grass roots efforts. He could learn a lot about that from Mr. Chaffetz.
I could easily see Bennett getting ousted in two years, especially if he continues to ignore his constituents and vote for things like the massive immigration amnesty proposed by McCain/Kennedy last year.
I went to his Provo office a couple years ago with some friends who were State delegates and his local staff was combative and rude to us as we tried to express our feelings about Bennetts' votes in favor of amnesties. Despite hundreds of calls and faxes, he still voted wrong on amnesty last year.
At least Hatch has enough political savvy to realize that Utahns are paying attention to immigration issues.
It's hilarious that Cannon wants to start his own version of grass roots efforts. He could learn a lot about that from Mr. Chaffetz.
Anonymous | 1:37 a.m. June 26, 2008
Message to the Deseret News: Take a civics course. There are 435 members of
the House of Representatives, not 485.
MY SLC | 1:40 a.m. June 26, 2008
Thia from Valentine:
"The Senate president said if the Republicans had lost a number of incumbents in the convention or primaries, it might signal a broader discontent"
Dear Mr. valentine, I think that the Republicans should be very worried this year and that Hatch and Bennett should look @ retiring The days of Curtis, Bramble and Buttars are nearing an end! Thank goodness.
"The Senate president said if the Republicans had lost a number of incumbents in the convention or primaries, it might signal a broader discontent"
Dear Mr. valentine, I think that the Republicans should be very worried this year and that Hatch and Bennett should look @ retiring The days of Curtis, Bramble and Buttars are nearing an end! Thank goodness.
Paperboy | 1:42 a.m. June 26, 2008
The reason so few voters turned out for this primary is that faithful Mormon
Utah citizens have unfortunately been sold a bill of goods by the Republican
party, who moved to the extreme right over the past 30 years. This year is
clearly the year of the Democrats. The Republican Party is ill prepared to offer
a clear response to the progressive, yet sensible, ideas of the Democrats, who
have moved to take the middle ground of the political spectrum.
Re. Anonymous | 1:53 a.m. June 26, 2008
You are spot on! Conservatives are feed up with Republican elected officials,
who promise conservative values but once in office they try to out Democrats the
Dems. If they would do what they promised the conservatives who put them in
office, they would win elections. What else can we do but fire them! Sadly, in
the race for President, there is NO conservative candidate! I can't hold my
nose long enough to vote for McCain and I love my country too much to help turn
it over to Obama, so I will just stay home this year.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. The longer I am in it, the more it resembles the first." Ronald Reagan
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. The longer I am in it, the more it resembles the first." Ronald Reagan
Cats | 2:15 a.m. June 26, 2008
What goes around comes around. Chris has no one to blame for his defeat but
himself. As a former Cannon staffer I can tell you that Chris is both
personally and professionally dishonest. I can't imagine anyone who knows
Chris well who would believe he is honest. He has a lot of excuses, but the
fact is that he lost because of his own incompetence and lies about his record.
He lives in denial. There is a reason he has faced a challenge within the party
every single time he has run. I think all of us who know Chris knew this day
would eventually come.
I just hope that the anger this year won't cause voters to head in a direction that will be seriously damaging to our country. Let's all support Jason. He will need it.
I just hope that the anger this year won't cause voters to head in a direction that will be seriously damaging to our country. Let's all support Jason. He will need it.
Anonymous | 2:20 a.m. June 26, 2008
*** "If Utah Republicans aren't careful, the same thing will happen
here as has happened in California and Virginia, Cannon said. "We
(Republicans) can't win statewide elections there anymore," said
Cannon" ***
Hmmm. And why can't we win elections in California aymore?
One-third of the residents are Democratic-leaning Hispanics. Only 47% of California voters are white. 27% of Californians are FIRST GENERATION immigrants. Throw in their kids and that's well over half the population. Middle class whites who want to raise families - that is, CONSERVATIVE whites - have had to flee the state for more affordable places.
California is lost BECAUSE of the idiotic immigration policies embraced by Chris Cannon, George W Bush and their ilk.
As for Virginia? My aunt and uncle have owned a home outside of DC for the last 40+ years. They've witnessed firsthand the rapid transformation of Northern Virginia thanks to - what? - immigration.
So surprise! Mass immigration by people who come from socialist cultures is not good for the conservative party.
Chris Cannon talks about Republicans winning elections. I don't care if Republicans win if conservatives aren't winning. Thanks to mass immigration that's happening less and less.
Hmmm. And why can't we win elections in California aymore?
One-third of the residents are Democratic-leaning Hispanics. Only 47% of California voters are white. 27% of Californians are FIRST GENERATION immigrants. Throw in their kids and that's well over half the population. Middle class whites who want to raise families - that is, CONSERVATIVE whites - have had to flee the state for more affordable places.
California is lost BECAUSE of the idiotic immigration policies embraced by Chris Cannon, George W Bush and their ilk.
As for Virginia? My aunt and uncle have owned a home outside of DC for the last 40+ years. They've witnessed firsthand the rapid transformation of Northern Virginia thanks to - what? - immigration.
So surprise! Mass immigration by people who come from socialist cultures is not good for the conservative party.
Chris Cannon talks about Republicans winning elections. I don't care if Republicans win if conservatives aren't winning. Thanks to mass immigration that's happening less and less.
Will Pearson | 2:20 a.m. June 26, 2008
I saw no reason to go to the polls last Tuesday, nor would I have done so were
we Russians offered the same kind of one-party ticket. The next day DesNews
editorials and journalist's articles correctly pointed out that Utahans and
most other Americans do not like one-party politics; but they failed to
challenge Utah citizens or anybody else to show enough courage to join the
Democratic Party. Mr. Cannon should not take this defeat personally. He should
go back and read Geo. Orwell's book, 1984.
delusional Cannon | 2:19 a.m. June 26, 2008
These statements from Cannon go to the heart of why he lost. He calls the
majority of his party's delegates and primary voters a bunch of names. What
a grand way to connect with your constituents; Call them names such as
"boorish" and xenophobes.
Maybe, if he had done the job he was elected to do in the first place and found out what his local constituents were concerned about, he would not have to resort to name calling. He no longer represented us but rather represented Washington interests(see where his campaign contributions came from).
Also, low voter turnout was not the reason for his 9,000 vote loss. His voters who were "at the lake" obviously were not enthused to show up for him. He seems unaware that the last three primaries he has been in, have all been well under the capacity of Lavell Edwards Stadium(65,000 capacity). In fact, his 2004 Primary against Throckmorton had almost the same number of voters as this years. Strange how he didn't complain back then about the 'tragedy' of the lack of voters.
2004 Primary voters= 47,335
2006 Primary voters= 59,023
2008 Primary voters= 45,374+ (one uncounted pricinct)
Maybe, if he had done the job he was elected to do in the first place and found out what his local constituents were concerned about, he would not have to resort to name calling. He no longer represented us but rather represented Washington interests(see where his campaign contributions came from).
Also, low voter turnout was not the reason for his 9,000 vote loss. His voters who were "at the lake" obviously were not enthused to show up for him. He seems unaware that the last three primaries he has been in, have all been well under the capacity of Lavell Edwards Stadium(65,000 capacity). In fact, his 2004 Primary against Throckmorton had almost the same number of voters as this years. Strange how he didn't complain back then about the 'tragedy' of the lack of voters.
2004 Primary voters= 47,335
2006 Primary voters= 59,023
2008 Primary voters= 45,374+ (one uncounted pricinct)
Ridgerunner | 3:32 a.m. June 26, 2008
I guess most of us are tired of voting for Republicans who then act and vote
like liberal Democrats. What's the use, they never learn! Maybe we
don't either. Are there any candidates who will stand up for real
conservative values? I stayed home because I knew re electing Cannon would just
be more of the same. Brace yourselves America for at least 4 years of liberal
Nancy Pelosi values! They want to make all America look and act like San
Francisco.
John C. | 3:51 a.m. June 26, 2008
This is why we need term limits on congress and senate. There are too many
career polotitions who after awhile are only conserned with getting elected or
getting so arrogent that they think they will always get elected. I believe this
is where most of the corruption has come from.
They worried about a career president and the power of one so popular as rosevelt that they fainaly put term limits on the presidency
They worried about a career president and the power of one so popular as rosevelt that they fainaly put term limits on the presidency
A Sore Loser.. | 4:03 a.m. June 26, 2008
That's all I can say about Chris Cannon. He's a sore loser. The reason
he lost is because he hasn't done all that much to keep his job. He has
forgotten that he's not his own boss and he found that out the other day
when the voters decided enough was enough. When an employee keeps messing up and
doesn't do the job right - they get the boot. And so he did. If he has no
other trade then trying to be a politician I guess like someone said he can be
humble and deliver newspapers.
RCS | 4:42 a.m. June 26, 2008
1) How foolish to think that the Republicans should have an "open
Primary" and allow the Democrats to vote in it (as they do their "one
day as a Republican"), and then then laugh at the Republican Party for
being so foolish as to allow such a practice!
2) Americans (including Republicans in the Third District) who do not vote in all elections they are entitled to, should realize that by not voting they allow minority special interests to become the majority and win elections -- and the majority will find they are losing their freedoms. I understand that apathy is a symptom for ignorance: ignorance of the issues and candidate positions, and ignorance of what freedom is based on.
3) Those who believe they are religious, and who do not exercise their freedom to vote, are living a contradictory delusion.
2) Americans (including Republicans in the Third District) who do not vote in all elections they are entitled to, should realize that by not voting they allow minority special interests to become the majority and win elections -- and the majority will find they are losing their freedoms. I understand that apathy is a symptom for ignorance: ignorance of the issues and candidate positions, and ignorance of what freedom is based on.
3) Those who believe they are religious, and who do not exercise their freedom to vote, are living a contradictory delusion.
Tom in SW Wyoming | 5:27 a.m. June 26, 2008
Anonymous....you write masterfully and expressed my sentiment to a
"T". I especially endorse your swipe at Cannon's arrogance vis a
vis illegal immigrants.
Red | 5:31 a.m. June 26, 2008
"harsh, boorish people"? Seems like everything Cannon complains
about pretty much describes himelf. While in Utah I could not believe he kept
getting elected. Utah is well rid of him.
Utah Resident | 5:33 a.m. June 26, 2008
Sour, sour grapes. One Party Rule brings One Party Arrogance. Throw the
Incumbents out come November!
utwingnut | 5:34 a.m. June 26, 2008
My priorities for the rest of the elections this year.
Vote out all incumbents unless the other option (Obama) is not really an option.
Any polititian who was pro-voucher needs to go.
Any politician who has been in for two terms needs to go.
I am solidly conservative but I think this state needs to be inoculated with a strong dose of liberalism for at least four years.
Finally, Mr. Hatch needs to brush up on his song writting. I see unemployment in his future.
Ok all you ultra-conservative, Utah county, Orthadox Mormons; let me have it!
Vote out all incumbents unless the other option (Obama) is not really an option.
Any polititian who was pro-voucher needs to go.
Any politician who has been in for two terms needs to go.
I am solidly conservative but I think this state needs to be inoculated with a strong dose of liberalism for at least four years.
Finally, Mr. Hatch needs to brush up on his song writting. I see unemployment in his future.
Ok all you ultra-conservative, Utah county, Orthadox Mormons; let me have it!
Rich | 5:40 a.m. June 26, 2008
Elective office is not an entitlement.
Doodles | 6:10 a.m. June 26, 2008
Chris Cannnon is having a difficult time admitting that the reason he lost the
primary is that more voters want change than want more of the same. What he has
done the last dozen years is not what most people want more of any more. That
is tough to take, flat out rejection.
There is nothing as constant as change.
There is nothing as constant as change.
DK | 6:17 a.m. June 26, 2008
WOW, talk about sour grapes! This is just another example of incumbents who
believe they OWN Washington and forget just who they should be beholding to!
Sad what we've allowed politics to become and it is up to us to clean it up.
Sad what we've allowed politics to become and it is up to us to clean it up.
Bob G | 6:39 a.m. June 26, 2008
Now with Cannon out of the way all we have to do is keep Chafets out of the
office in Washington. It'll be much easier now to get some better
representation who is not under the thumb of CEO's. Chavets will follow in
the footsteps of Cannon if and when goes to washington and we don't want
that. Next we have to get the other career politicians, Hatch, out of his comfy
job. Lifer politicians are not good for the country or any state, we must have
constant change and constant vigilance both here in the state and in D.C..
Lifers have caused all this economic trouble so to preserve the economy we have
to change the leaders, from the top down. We need leadership, not complacency in
government and lifers are complacent with their own personal needs and greedy
hands. We need government leaders more interested in the American people and
upholding our constitution than in Mexico's trash.
Anonymous | 6:41 a.m. June 26, 2008
Senator Hatch's view is troubling. Most of our early leaders felt that we
should have a citizen legislature, and should avoid sending career politicians
to Washington. Senator Hatch seems to have accepted the view (which he
criticized in running against Senator Moss) that we need to play the game by
re-electing the same people each time. Perhaps this serves Utah's
interest. It does not serve America's.
Senator Hatch's statements on this issue are not "conservative."
Senator Hatch's statements on this issue are not "conservative."
michaelh | 6:45 a.m. June 26, 2008
There is a lack of unity in the GOP. The people want ANOTHER REAGAN and
CONSERVATISM and the GOP leaders tell us that we need to become enlightened and
embrace the great center where those who lack the courage of their convictions
cower. Message to the rest of the Utah GOP we are united and determined to
retake our party and move it to the right. Respect the will of the people or we
will FIRE YOU so that you can be your true self�s,
DEMOCRATS.
CITIZEN | 6:47 a.m. June 26, 2008
Maybe cannon can get a job as a lobbyist!!!BIG BUSINESS ALWAYS NEEDS MORE
LOBBYIST!!!
Christy | 6:48 a.m. June 26, 2008
Chris Cannon still doesn't get it. He says the "grass roots"
Republicans are his real supporters, but gives the lame excuse that they were
all off vacationing on June 24th. Those of us who cared enough to vote (and, by
the way, to attend our caucus meetings back in March) are the "harsh,
boorish" ones. Well, good luck to him in finding his real constituency.
Maybe if he spends enough time on the internet, he can find some conservative
Utah Republicans who want amnesty for illegals, (which is the real reason he was
booted) and give it another try. Good luck to him.
Dixie Dan | 6:50 a.m. June 26, 2008
Cannon will cry all the way to the bank cashing his rather lucrative
"retirement checks" for serving 6 terms in Congress. Anyone care to
guess how much his retirement is costing the American taxpayer?
Political Guy | 6:51 a.m. June 26, 2008
There are 435 members in the U.S. House of Representives, not 485 which is
stated in the article. I hope that was just a typo.
Same Ole | 7:07 a.m. June 26, 2008
This is nothing more than someone who thought they were above the people they
represent. Just tell them whatever you have to get elected then go back to
Washington and join up with the good old boys, and do whatever big greedy
business wants and you will be blessed. I think that game is over. Big business
will get what they deserve also, it may hurt low and middle income folks for
awhile but when people are out of money who is going to support the big business
boys? Maybe they can support each other and just buy back and forth from each
other. We little people will make it through all this mess but it might teach
others a good lesson as to where their bread is really buttered. Once again
voters please vote and make sure that incumbents are thrown out. Lets clean
house and put new representatives in Washington. I mean nationally not just
locally. Get rid of this seniority mess also. Bye, bye grey beards.
Craig Coleman | 7:09 a.m. June 26, 2008
When I first met Jason Chaffetz I shared my opinion that I thought it would be
hard for him to win in the convention and if he did manage to force a primary he
would probably lose. He proved me wrong by putting together an incredible
campaign organization that got people involved as volunteers. I do not doubt
now that he can and will win in November. I am not surprised by Rep.
Cannon's remarks. I think I would probably feel the same way if I lost my
job after 12 years of service. I hope he does get to a point where he can put
the loss behind him and use his influence and knowledge to help Jason Chaffetz
be a better Congressman. We have a lot of problems to solve in this country but
I am optimistic that with American spirit and determination we can emerge
stronger than ever.
ST. GEORGE | 7:18 a.m. June 26, 2008
MR. CANNON-----Your comments show exactly why the GOP is in trouble.
The Citizens are tired of GOP BIG OIL POLICY, we don�t want to drill in ANWR, it won�t help anyone but your BIG OIL supporters.
We want CLEAN RENEWABLE ALTERNATIVE ENERGY, made right here in the USA!
We are tired of GOP INFLATIONARY SPENDING, Military, Police, Homeland Security, etc. that adds more money to our economy, but does nothing to increase the amount of goods and services available for our purchase.
We want projects like NAWAPA, MAGLEV trains, that will create good paying jobs in the USA!
We are tired of hearing that these things can�t be done because of the environmentalists.
YOU FAILED TO DO YOUR JOB ---- GO MAKE MONEY IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND LEAVE THE POLITICS TO HONEST PEOPLE!
BEING A CONGRESSMAN IS ABOUT SERVICE, NOT ABOUT A CAREER!
The Citizens are tired of GOP BIG OIL POLICY, we don�t want to drill in ANWR, it won�t help anyone but your BIG OIL supporters.
We want CLEAN RENEWABLE ALTERNATIVE ENERGY, made right here in the USA!
We are tired of GOP INFLATIONARY SPENDING, Military, Police, Homeland Security, etc. that adds more money to our economy, but does nothing to increase the amount of goods and services available for our purchase.
We want projects like NAWAPA, MAGLEV trains, that will create good paying jobs in the USA!
We are tired of hearing that these things can�t be done because of the environmentalists.
YOU FAILED TO DO YOUR JOB ---- GO MAKE MONEY IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND LEAVE THE POLITICS TO HONEST PEOPLE!
BEING A CONGRESSMAN IS ABOUT SERVICE, NOT ABOUT A CAREER!
Utah Resident | 7:29 a.m. June 26, 2008
CANNON LOST BECAUSE HE ENDORSED ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION!
HATCH, BENNETT, SHURTLEFF, AND HUNTSMAN NEED TO GO AS WELL!
HATCH, BENNETT, SHURTLEFF, AND HUNTSMAN NEED TO GO AS WELL!
ST. GEORGE | 7:29 a.m. June 26, 2008
AFFORDABLE SUSTAINABLE OIL IS A THING OF THE PAST.
VOTE ONLY FOR THOSE WHO PLEDGE TO END THE OIL BASED ECONOMY.
VOTE ONLY FOR THOSE WHO PLEDGE TO END THE OIL BASED ECONOMY.
jdegaston | 7:30 a.m. June 26, 2008
I am happy to see some sensible calculations about "low voter
turnout". Approximately 22% of the registered Republicans is very good.
As for blaming "low voter turnout" let's look at what causes "low voter turnout" -- very few primary races. Almost all races ended at the Republican convention, carefully controlled by party insiders with their automatic delegates (oops ex-officio delegates), appointed replacement delegates, discretionary delegates and "ballot box antics", all carefully used to insure incumbents a speedy return to office without primary contests, and the unhearalded result is "low voter turnout".
Why just Republican primaries? Where are the public able to help choose the Democrat candidates, Constitutional party candidates? Why should everyone else participate in the Republican failures of control by party bosses?
Anyway, that same "low voter turnout" so carefully managed by party insiders may have resulted in the loss of one of their own at the top of the ticket? Maybe somebody might get a clue.
Yes, there is a split in the Republican party, and Steve White nailed it, those who do not support all the deficit spending and other failures of the Bush leadership have voted for someone new. Good for them!!!
As for blaming "low voter turnout" let's look at what causes "low voter turnout" -- very few primary races. Almost all races ended at the Republican convention, carefully controlled by party insiders with their automatic delegates (oops ex-officio delegates), appointed replacement delegates, discretionary delegates and "ballot box antics", all carefully used to insure incumbents a speedy return to office without primary contests, and the unhearalded result is "low voter turnout".
Why just Republican primaries? Where are the public able to help choose the Democrat candidates, Constitutional party candidates? Why should everyone else participate in the Republican failures of control by party bosses?
Anyway, that same "low voter turnout" so carefully managed by party insiders may have resulted in the loss of one of their own at the top of the ticket? Maybe somebody might get a clue.
Yes, there is a split in the Republican party, and Steve White nailed it, those who do not support all the deficit spending and other failures of the Bush leadership have voted for someone new. Good for them!!!
TO: mrz | 7:32 a.m. June 26, 2008
"Utah is tired of putting up with 5 to 7 cable channels carrying Spanish
programs. I'm paying for TV channels I can't understand. Utah is tired
of the presence of Spanish written everywhere you look."
You can't speak for everyone. Yes, there are immigrants here and they are here illegally. That needs to be fixed. But Hispanic people are welcome here, as are the signs they read and the stations they watch. The whole world isn't white and everyone doesn't speak English. Open your mind and start seeing what the future holds - a beautiful mix of all cultures where we can learn from each other and enjoy each other's cultural diversity.
You can't speak for everyone. Yes, there are immigrants here and they are here illegally. That needs to be fixed. But Hispanic people are welcome here, as are the signs they read and the stations they watch. The whole world isn't white and everyone doesn't speak English. Open your mind and start seeing what the future holds - a beautiful mix of all cultures where we can learn from each other and enjoy each other's cultural diversity.
jr | 7:42 a.m. June 26, 2008
What doesn't Cannon get, the people that did take the time to vote want to
clean out the gutter, hopefully Hatch, Bishop and Bennett are the next to go.
The BYU kicker might want to pay attention that the voters have lost patience
with self serving jerks
Cutting a cannon loose | 7:44 a.m. June 26, 2008
Chris Cannon lost because Chaffetz is a former BYU football player who has not
had a multi-year history of arrogance as a politician. We'll see if
Chaffetz, once in washington, joins the "old boys club" like most
others who get elected.
Most telling was Cannon's remark that now that he is no longer restrained by his elected position, he can talk candidly about what is wrong with Utah and the US. Hello, Mr. Cannon, didn't Utahns elect you to speak candidly about these problems in the first place? Why did you get to washington and swallow your tongue? Was it more important for you not to offend your collegaues there by exposing their graft than it was to represent the true interests of your constituents and "tell it like it is?" The fact you can only now speak out about our problems speaks volumes about why you were defeated. Since you've been sitting on this information about what ails the country and the state for so long, you've lost credibility to bring it forward now. You had the chance to make a difference and all you gave was more of the same.
Most telling was Cannon's remark that now that he is no longer restrained by his elected position, he can talk candidly about what is wrong with Utah and the US. Hello, Mr. Cannon, didn't Utahns elect you to speak candidly about these problems in the first place? Why did you get to washington and swallow your tongue? Was it more important for you not to offend your collegaues there by exposing their graft than it was to represent the true interests of your constituents and "tell it like it is?" The fact you can only now speak out about our problems speaks volumes about why you were defeated. Since you've been sitting on this information about what ails the country and the state for so long, you've lost credibility to bring it forward now. You had the chance to make a difference and all you gave was more of the same.
jackie84604 | 7:46 a.m. June 26, 2008
There is lack of unity in the Republican party for a reason. Conservatives
have felt shut-out of the process in the Bush administration (deficit spending,
loss of personal liberties, federal intrusions in to education (NCLB), etc.),
and even here in Utah County with his "conflict of interest"
leadership by 3 or 4 families with the superdelegates (ex-0fficio), appointed
replacement delegates, discretionary delegates and "ballot box
antics".
And as for low voter turnout, just imagine what a few primary races in the Utah House and Senate would have done for the turnout. If Shepherd had had two more votes or Houskeeper one more (two were rejected by Monnahan & Company as missing an unknown cutoff date), or if Bramble himself had faced a primary race, the turnout would have been much larger.
Instead, our party bosses chose to have no primary contests, so the turn out was low. One might said they did it to themselves as they got almost everything they wanted at the bottom of the ticket and lost one of their own at the top of the ticket because of "low voter turnout".
And, what of the Democrats and Constitutionalists? Why no primary races there either?
And as for low voter turnout, just imagine what a few primary races in the Utah House and Senate would have done for the turnout. If Shepherd had had two more votes or Houskeeper one more (two were rejected by Monnahan & Company as missing an unknown cutoff date), or if Bramble himself had faced a primary race, the turnout would have been much larger.
Instead, our party bosses chose to have no primary contests, so the turn out was low. One might said they did it to themselves as they got almost everything they wanted at the bottom of the ticket and lost one of their own at the top of the ticket because of "low voter turnout".
And, what of the Democrats and Constitutionalists? Why no primary races there either?
Rick | 7:47 a.m. June 26, 2008
Say what you want about Chris, but in one key area he is correct. The delegates
who choose candidates are almost always extremist, boorish nut jobs, one way or
the other. And it is getting worse. The Republican party in Utah is a huge mess,
and its definitely not getting better. There is no moderate voice.
Ex-Republican | 7:51 a.m. June 26, 2008
Could the problem with the Republican Party, in Utah and nationwide, be that it
has abandoned it's foundation principals of individual freedom, opportunity
and responsibility.
The Republican Party is now the Democratic Party, growing government into this monster that usurps all power, redistributes all wealth removes all incentive to create and excell.
Now we have a bankrupt nation that cannot even defend itself because it owes it's very soul to China which has financed our massive debt.
This country has long since abandoned the principles on which she was built and blessed. Now we get to reap the rewards of our stupidity.
The Republican Party is now the Democratic Party, growing government into this monster that usurps all power, redistributes all wealth removes all incentive to create and excell.
Now we have a bankrupt nation that cannot even defend itself because it owes it's very soul to China which has financed our massive debt.
This country has long since abandoned the principles on which she was built and blessed. Now we get to reap the rewards of our stupidity.
Another Ex-Republican | 7:54 a.m. June 26, 2008
With Republicans like Mitt Romney, John McCain, Chris Cannon, Orin Hatch and
John Huntsman; who needs Democrats?
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Cannon stopped listening to anyone who disagreed with him a long time ago. He could have held on to his seat if he would have humbled himself, taken responsibility for some of his gaffs, and tried to change some of his undesirable attributes.
Cannon is a nice guy, and actually did a pretty good job for us in D.C. His main problem was that he was unable to communicate with his constituents and make them feel good about themselves and his representation of them.
I wish Cannon well, and hope he will swallow his pride and endorse Chaffetz (who has a little too much pride of his own).