Comments about ‘FLDS meet with pro-polygamy group’

Very interesting. I still like zxcvbnm's comment the other day that polygamy is legal on the Moon. My family is moving there next week as soon as we can find something headed that way. ANybody else wanna come?

If we don't understand something; I believe people need to always be informed. But then do us a favor and educate yourselves that society will not accept and will never accept certain things about your society. We will never accept under-age marriages. We will never accept that people need to be involved in "plural marriage" to become more like God. You are going to continue to diminish because most people in the world believe that we all deserve equal treatment and equal rights. Your groups don't generally support equal rights for women and you will never have very many women willingly remain in your groups. Without very many women, you will eventually dwindle. Goodbye, and God Bless.

the quasi-blind leading the quasi-blind.

gender equal-rights
gender equal-parity

Why is it? As long as a local Mormonn group like Principle Voices expresses a willingness to help FLDS that the media then calls them a "pro-polygamy group" - as if to suggest that being pro-polygamy euqals being pro-FLDS. Geographically larger and older than the Utah group is the national polygamy rights movement for consenting adults - NATIONAL-level "pro-polygamy" activism. Yet, the larger movement has always opposed the FLDS. But local media won't report that. Instead, the media here refuses to report that there is a larger activist movement more than only the Utah area's Mormon-based polygamy. It's clear. Because the NATIONAL movement is neither Mormon-based nor willing to be pro-FLDS, the media here refuses to report the real, broader pro-polygamy activism.

[flds]...no dignity, not justice...?
[non-flds]...no dignity, not justice...?

Why is it? As long as a local Mormon group like Principle Voices expresses a willingness to help FLDS that the media then calls them a "pro-polygamy group" - as if to suggest that being pro-polygamy equals being pro-FLDS. Geographically larger and older than the Utah group is the national polygamy rights movement for consenting adults - NATIONAL-level "pro-polygamy" activism. Yet, the larger movement has always opposed the FLDS. But local media won't report that. Instead, the media here refuses to report that there is a larger activist movement more than only the Utah area's Mormon-based polygamy. It's clear. Because the NATIONAL movement is neither Mormon-based nor willing to be pro-FLDS, the media here refuses to report the real, broader pro-polygamy activism.

Educate Us:

Please continue your "education." Polygamy is in fact growing in the U. S., not diminishing. And it will continue to grow as the public stigma against it is lessened. It is hilarious to read the comments of people who know nothing about polygamy. They react strictly from prejudice. Your post is a perfect example.

Though I can't see how one man could handle a life with more than one woman. I do belive they should be able to belive what they wnat to belive. With out fear that the feds or the state are going to take every thing they have and then some. Sure individuals rights must be protected and children should be protected. But how do we justify what texas did? They took all the children from the FLDS compund without so much as a shred of proof. They should have done some investigating and done a little leg work before removing all the children and even then it should have been on a case by case basis. Sure remove the guilty but just because a few are bad do we punish all? Again it goes to show just how broken the system has become. Circumstantial evidence is all taht seems to be reqired any more for our judicial system to act. No proof just accusation. We talk of equal rights where none trully exist. You can make a phone call and have peoples children taken away with out so much as a shread of proof. Now that's DFS for you.

How long will it take before other pro pologamy groups are attacked for publicly helping the FLDS.
On this blogg it won't be long.

Utah has taken steps to at least talk with the pologamy organizations as well as create a dialogue with Nevada, Arizona, and Texas. The dialogue approach is commendable but what will prevent Texas from taking the information gleaned from meetings and using it against the FLDS or other groups.
Hildebrand has already stated that he intends to introduce additional anti FLDS legislation in the next legislative session. The Texas Governor has as much as told the FLDS to get out of town.
A government appointed attorney is testifying today against her client.
The lower Texas courts will continue to rule against the FLDS in what appears to be an attempt to bleed the FLDS thru the appeals process.
The state has stated that they are looking into confiscating the ranch to recoup raid costs, as well as attempt to charge parents for two months of child care costs.
Utah and other groups may be "reasonable" but Texas will "uphold the law" and make more laws to fill any voids.

Principle Voices is pro-polygamy, fine. But are they also pro-slavery? The S in flds stands for Slavery. Slavery violates the 13th amendment of the United States.

"Pro-Polygamy Principle Voices" main objective is to police the groups and report their efforts to the Attorney General Office.

Well, Hey! I need a couple more husbands. It would make life much easier for me.

The fact that you think polygamy is increasing shows that you are "pro" or one of them. I have educated myself and I have done much research; I know what I'm speaking of. For years I have studied and asked questions. I had family that was hurt by polygamy and I was going to get to the bottom of why people would practice it. Of course, some men might want "God" to "tell" people to do it, but I wondered about women. For them it is mainly because of the patriarchal beliefs that they were raised with or bought in to (that men are supposed to be over women and that "God" has many wives) Sure, there may be more that may try it initially just because there are more people in the world now, but they do not continue. It is hurtful in many ways. If you think that it will continue you are fooling yourself...you will not succeed.

How does that sound? Women having more than one husband! Actually, if you face reality, sometimes both men and women sometimes have more than one spouse (but just ONE AT A TIME). Both of my parents have and many of my grandparents have had this and I've learned to cope. This is because society has rightfully determined that it hurts people to have more than one at a time! Usually women stick to this...sometimes men don't (they have more affairs, mistresses etc). Time to face the facts! And for you men that think you will have more than one wife in heaven; I have something to say to you! My sweet grandmothers associate with more than one husband in heaven....they loved both of their husbands just as some men say they loved more than one women. "God" doesn't make them comply with your "rules".

I'm all for woman having more than one husband just as we men should have if that's what we choose. My mother was married to 4 different men, and to this day she still loves them all. My mother plans to have each one of these men in the next life with her. They have all since died, and She said they were all great men. And even at 75 she still says she wouldn't mind having at least one more man.

In all honesty I think Polygamy is gross, but I do not believe I have the right to force my personal beliefs on others. I think if you as an ADULT want to have more than one wife or Husband that is none of anybody else's business.

This of course misses the point of the FLDS raid. The alleged crime here is not Polygamy, but Child abuse. Apparently these people do not consider it abusive for a 13 year old Girl to marry a 70 year old man.

I can say without equivocation "IF" this occurred MOST Americans including those who practice polygamy would disagree with them. The sad reality is throughout history some of the most heinous acts have been committed in the name of God.

"Texson" we are all still waiting to see IF it really happened. Some have convicted them all already without evidence of any kind. Hysterical public opinion seems to be all that some have needed. The more pragmatic and intelligent people are interested in waiting for the actual evidence to present itself and for a fair and impartial justice system to weigh that evidence. If such a judicial system exists in Texas, we hope it is utilized and this whole affair be taken care of legally. We know the Appelate system works but we would like to see it not have to.

Phil my friend I could not agree with you more. This is precisely why I used the terms "IF" and alleged. I believe that EVERYBODY is innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt and to a moral certainty.

Texson, that is very refreshing to hear. If more people felt like that, we would not be in here discussing this.