Comments about ‘Herbert to forward complaint’

I think Gary Herbert did exactly what he should have done. I've followed this story closely and I believe his decision was made with a lot of wisdom and it's good to know we have someone in office that is more interested in doing what is right than doing what is popular.

I think it's a shame someone like Jason Chaffetz didn't come along to give the Huntsman/Herbert ticket the same message in a primary. Herbert's just another insider player. Curtis,Valentine,and Shurtleff better open their eyes.

If there are improprities in elections the voters have a right to know before elections, not after. Herbert by his actions and statements prior to elections were used improperly to affect election results. He said just enough in attempts to affect an election wheterer it is true or not. The judge should have acted more appropiatly and made information public rather than hide information knowing it would affect election results. It was all political manuvering on Herberts part and had the desired affects. The courts actions are moot and unimportant now and all charges may be quietly droped now that the elections are over. The courts were used in political manuvering whether the judge likes it or not. This is the pitfalls of delaying judgements and court actions and makes the judge look like a used idiot.

I can certainly see some deliberation on the part of Herbert in waiting to forward the complaint; however, you can't make a silk purse from a sow's ear. I would have hated to see a candidate elected in a primary only to be ruled ineligible because of an alleged shady deal. Herbert still failed in my book because Walker voted for a pay raise for the treasurer while in the legislature and according to Utah law it should have made him inelligible at that point. But alas no word from Herbert in that regard, instead he conveniently suggests that he did not want to pass on the "hot potato" rather than address all of the issues. Either way it shows how frought the GOB (Good Ole Boys)has become with questionable behavior. In Utah there aren't many consequences for the GOB because for some reason most of the state considers democrats as something less than "untouchables" in the Indian caste system.

At least Utah gave George Bush his highest margin of victory in the union. Who else can see echos of the national stage here in Utah ie politics without morals or consequences?

For everyone that didn't like Herbert's actions. What if next election YOUR CANDIDATE has allegations filed against him two weeks before the election and just a couple days before early voting for something that happened months ago...I'm glad Gary Herbert has set a precedent to protect future candidates from allegations that come in the midnight hour.

Did Lt. Governor Herbert really use the word "squirrelly?"

I believe he was quoting Jefferson or Lincoln or some other great philosopher of democracy when he used the term "squirrelly."

If, as it appears, Walker attempted to bribe Ellis out of the race, he should be charged criminally. While ignorance of the law is no defense, I can believe that neither candidate initially recognized these discussions as illegal. However, they both should have recognized what they were contemplated as unseemly. And Ellis does not get to lay claim to the high road, because he only pushed the issue after he was contacted by the press. Reporting Walker was either the right or wrong thing to do, yet right and wrong did not enter into Ellis' decision. His decision was informed by political expedience more than anything. His could yet prove to be a Pyrrhic victory.

Herbert you know that the employee's in the Treasurers office are merit employee's. This means that at no-point can someone just come in and clean-house. This argument it ludacris. I want to thank the voters for getting out and voting for Richard. He is a quality human being and a man of integrity.

You will never hear of this again. The Republicanazi party strongmen will not allow this issue to see the light of day, you can be sure of that.

Herbert's in a tough situation because he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. That's politics though. In this case, I think he set aside his own personal interests and did exactly the right thing. He very easily could have broken under pressure after all the negative articles so that HE didn't look bad. But he chose to do what is right versus what was popular. He did just what we elected him to do and he deserves a pat on the back for that.

I think it's interesting that Paul Rolly is reporting that the AG's office was sitting on an internal memo that concluded that Walker was not eligible to run for office given his vote to increase the treasurer's salary last session.

Even though the powers that be will try to stifle all negative information to come out, I belive we still have some things to learn....

Indeed, we do have more to learn. The problem is, I suspect that Richard Ellis will not come out looking so squakey clean as folks might suspect.

"Oh Please" is correct. This issue will now disappear into the cool of a Utah summer night, never to be heard of again. At least Mr. Walker's days in politics are over.

Touch! Looks like our Lt. Gov knew what he was doing after all.

I'm simply tired of people beating on the LtGov when the true culprits seem to be BOTH Walker and Ellis.

Wow - an elected official did his job and did not succumb to political/media pressure! And HE is the bad guy?

For all of the posters who argue that there is no integrity in the political process anymore, who say that we should 'dump 'em all' - why are you beating up on someone who's bucking the 'political' grain and doing what he thinks is right?

It seems that the Ellis fans are mad that the LtGov didn't process his last-minute complaint (intended to hurt Walker) and also that the Walker fans are mad that the LtGov didn't throw the complaint away (to hurt Ellis).

Seems as if if both sides are mad, that the LtGov MUST have done something right....

Couldn't agree more.

Upon first hearing of this case I believed Herbert should act quickly. But as I've learned more details, including the time line involved, I've come to believe Herbert has taken about the best possible course. Simply put, if someone waits 3 months to file a complaint he can hardly expect everyone else to act quickly.

As to the constitutional issues, I too have been concerned that Walker was ineligible to serve under the disability imposed by Utah State Constitution Article VI, Section 7. His term expires in January, he did vote to raise the salary of the State treasurer during that term, and the election to that office occurs in November, DURING his current term.

Of course, I remain equally concerned that we have several sitting legislators who are ineligible under separation of powers imposed by Utah State Constitution Article V, Section 1. NO executive branch employee--including public school employees, peace officers, nor city or county employees--should be serving in the legislature unless/until our State Constitution is amended.

Mark or steve whomever you are, an answer to your question is something that you will never understand because neither one of you have this quality. Why don't you look it up in the dictionary.

Mr.Ellis is also a courageous man. He stood up for what was right and did not back down from the money and power that Walker and Curtis, Bramble, Valentine and good ole Mark Shurtleff were offering him.

Why not learn from Mr. Ellis and fess up, try to salvage your career and name atleast for the sake of your family.

Im glad the truth is slowing starting to come out that Ellis isn't so clean. It could be very ironic if the complaint that Ellis filed serves to be his own un doing. He has already admitted that he stopped negotiations on this job offer once he learned that it was illegal. Too bad he doesn't realize that even having such negotiations is a crime. Republicans are messed up.