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Club sports: Options, expenses both expand for girls
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Solution | 7:42 a.m. June 24, 2008
Boycott all those expensive sports. Reading is free. Tree climbing is free (as
long as it's not outlawed). Playing with your pals on the street is free.
I'm glad for the girls but please please watch out for the boys that they dont become America's 2nd class citizens.
A mom
I'm glad for the girls but please please watch out for the boys that they dont become America's 2nd class citizens.
A mom
coach | 8:31 a.m. June 24, 2008
If your child is genetically blessed and being on a club team is what they
really want to do and not what you want them to do then possibly think about it.
Otherwise think about you only get the chance to be a high school kid once and
there is so much pride and memories that goes along with putting on a high
school jersey and playing for and in front of those kids you associate with
every day. Don't sell a kid down the road just for the word club. Colleges
are looking for athletes period. They'll put you where they want you if you
are athletic enough. And find you wherever you are at.
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Go Team | 8:38 a.m. June 24, 2008
And what happens to the potentially great athlete that can not come up with the
funds to participate in an activity? What happens to the child that needs the
scholarship to just attend school and can't afford to get on one of these
"elite" teams? Our children need to be kids! Fun, laugh, play, no
stress! They may have fun on these teams and enjoy the moment, but what kinds
of pressure are they getting themselves into. Will that make them better
parents? better employees? a better spouse? How many pro athletes have cracked
under the pressure? What makes us think our young can deal with all that? Come
on... let's not live in a fantasy world. Let our kids be kids! Teach them
to work and love life. A 12 year old should not be worrying about college
scholarships. They should be living a carefree experience as long as they can.
Reality check | 10:15 a.m. June 24, 2008
I have 3 daughters who have played on soccer club teams at the Premier level.
It was their choice and they love it. They have had opportunities to play in
soccer tournaments in Hawaii, San Diego, Los Angeles, Phoenix, Las Vegas,
Houston, Denver, and other locations. They have learned to work hard through
participating on these teams. It is not easy. They have learned how to work
together with a team. They all have 3.9 or better gpa's in school.
It does cost money and sometimes we're not able to travel with them to watch their tournaments. The actual coaching fees and season registration fees are reasonable. As noted in the article, the coaching fees are around $50 per month. We had our daughters take piano lessons which cost the same per month. They got 1/2 hour lesson once per week with piano. They got 3 - 90 min practices and 2 games per week with soccer. I would say soccer is the better value. Our teams have always organized fundraisers to help those who couldn't afford the costs. Generally, only the premier teams travel out of state so most teams do not have that expense.
It does cost money and sometimes we're not able to travel with them to watch their tournaments. The actual coaching fees and season registration fees are reasonable. As noted in the article, the coaching fees are around $50 per month. We had our daughters take piano lessons which cost the same per month. They got 1/2 hour lesson once per week with piano. They got 3 - 90 min practices and 2 games per week with soccer. I would say soccer is the better value. Our teams have always organized fundraisers to help those who couldn't afford the costs. Generally, only the premier teams travel out of state so most teams do not have that expense.
dingo | 10:29 a.m. June 24, 2008
all this will end when a public high school openly discriminates and requires club participation to play at the high school level. while i am not a proponent of lawsuits i will welcome the day that a parent bankrupts a school district and has coaches fired for failure to provide equal opportunity and access to all student athletes and not just the club athletes.
i have witnessed many talented kids destroyed because their parents were under the misguided and pathetic delusion that they were raising the next superstar. the reality is about 1% of all athletes will become that superstar. my advice to parents is and always will be the same. let your child live their dream not yours, it is more rewarding and it is easier on the pocket book. besides if your child has the natural ability and the desire they will find a successful path. there is no amount of money and training can overcome a total lack of ability or natural talent.
Reality check | 10:34 a.m. June 24, 2008
Club soccer in Utah has many different levels. The top level is Premier, but
there is also Division 1, 2, 3 and sometimes 4. Each has their own league of
teams at their skill level for each age group i.e. U-12, U-13, U-14, etc. The
classification U-12 stands for Under 12. Generally, only the Premier level
teams travel out of state for tournaments but the other levels can compete in
league play and tournaments inside the state so their expenses are greatly
reduced. Many lower level teams have coaches that coach for free as well so the
only expenses are for uniforms, cleats, a ball, and the $50 league registration
fee.
Reality check | 10:40 a.m. June 24, 2008
One last thing ... this article seems to indicate that parents can just place
their kid on a premier level team. Don't be misleaded .. these teams
generally have yearly tryouts. There are only, at most, 18 positions on a
soccer team. Many teams to do not fill all roster spots. Your child has to be
dedicated, and talented to land one of these positions. My children started at
the lower divisions before advancing to the Premier level.
apprento | 10:46 a.m. June 24, 2008
The sad thing is, most of these girls aren't going to get a scholarship in
soccer. They would be a lot better off getting good grades like the girls in the
article and getting academic scholarships.
The other thing this article doesn't really mention is that lots of times, club sports take away from highschool sanctioned sports. At my highschool, girls wouldn't run track because their club coach "wouldn't let [them]."
The other thing this article doesn't really mention is that lots of times, club sports take away from highschool sanctioned sports. At my highschool, girls wouldn't run track because their club coach "wouldn't let [them]."
High School Coach | 10:49 a.m. June 24, 2008
By the sounds of it I am going to stop coaching High School ball and start
coaching club. I made around $1200 for each sport I coached, softball and
basketball ($2400 total for 7 Mo. of daily practices and weekly games), works
out to be about $2 an hour, if that no matter how many kids are on the team.
These club coaches are raking in the money to coach kids and the majority of
them don't even know what they are doing. It is funny to hear some club
coaches talk about the crazy things that they think would work in a real game
situation (not tournament ball). 1/2 of them could not coach a high school team
where they were not able to pick the best players from several cities. I am in
the wrong line of coaching.
Reality check | 11:13 a.m. June 24, 2008
Re: High School Coach
We have been on both sides of the high school sports teams and club teams in soccer. While it's true that there are different level of coaches, in order to coach at the club level, the coaches have to be certified and take training to reach different levels. They start at the beginning "E" level and can advance to an "A" level. The coaches license levels are all published. You know what you're getting. It's been my experience that, in general, it's the high school coaches abilities that are lacking. Some schools will let any interested teacher coach who may not have any training at all. There are no licenses needed to coach high school.
We have been on both sides of the high school sports teams and club teams in soccer. While it's true that there are different level of coaches, in order to coach at the club level, the coaches have to be certified and take training to reach different levels. They start at the beginning "E" level and can advance to an "A" level. The coaches license levels are all published. You know what you're getting. It's been my experience that, in general, it's the high school coaches abilities that are lacking. Some schools will let any interested teacher coach who may not have any training at all. There are no licenses needed to coach high school.
current coach | 11:18 a.m. June 24, 2008
I have 2 sons and both will have played college baseball. We began taking them
out of state to tournaments around 9 years of age. They loved the game and
wanted to progress to the best of their abilities so we wanted them to compete
against the very best. I realize that we are fortunate enough to have both of
them go on to the next level but if they hadn't, the trips, places
they've seen, experiences with their teammates, along with things like
dedication and committment were just priceless.
Cooperstown, Florida, Oklahoman, Minnesota, etc. to see another part of the country and how those people lived was worth each dollar we spent. I agree with those that say it is expensive but I wouldn't trade those times for anything. My boys were also told they could quit anytime they wanted so there was no pressure from us. Coaches is rec leagues should be held in high esteem for the time they put in but most are just dad's without real background in the sport. My boys wanted to excel so we found the best coach's we could and got them involved. To be continued:
Cooperstown, Florida, Oklahoman, Minnesota, etc. to see another part of the country and how those people lived was worth each dollar we spent. I agree with those that say it is expensive but I wouldn't trade those times for anything. My boys were also told they could quit anytime they wanted so there was no pressure from us. Coaches is rec leagues should be held in high esteem for the time they put in but most are just dad's without real background in the sport. My boys wanted to excel so we found the best coach's we could and got them involved. To be continued:
Adjustment | 11:27 a.m. June 24, 2008
What the article does not mention is the commitment, other than financial,
required of parents. I am the parent of three boys who have played competition
soccer. It has required that our family adjust to meet the demands of the
soccer schedule. We usually have to schedule vacations and other outings around
soccer. Many times our family vacation was in conjunction with a soccer
tournament. Getting our kids to 6 games and 6 practices a week was usually a
monumental task. However, as a parent, it has been worth the effort. My kids
love the sport and they are all physically fit. They don't spend much time
playing video games, watching t.v., or getting into trouble because they are
bored. They have had to learn to manage their time because soccer is so time
consuming. Fortunately for us, most of their coaches have been decent and
possessed integrity (for other players that is sometimes not the case). For
boys, there are very few opportunities to play college soccer, so my sons are in
it for the love of the game. I think every kid needs a positive passion of some
type, my kids picked soccer.
Wannabe | 2:39 p.m. June 24, 2008
I love sports, but was not good enough to make my high school teams. I was
disappointed and still am today. I'm going to make sure my kids aren't
disappointed by having them practice every day til they hate me. They'll
learn to love me later for it.
Dance Anyone? | 3:37 p.m. June 24, 2008
Of course another option is dance. My two daughters, both athletic, chose
ballet/jazz dance. They competed on private dance teams and school dance teams
throughout junior high and high school. The private teams practice 20+ hours a
week, 50 weeks a year. My monthly dance bill was several hundred dollars just
for the team lessons/practice. Then add fees for
costumes�each dance has a different
costume�and travel expenses to
competitions�New York, Orlando, Las Vegas, etc. The total
expense, or investment, was several thousand dollars a year. They loved it and
they learned wonderful life�s lessons about commitment,
dedication, teamwork, and competition. Now they compete at the collegiate
level.
Softball Dad | 3:51 p.m. June 24, 2008
My 2 girls love playing softball. They would probably hate me forever if I
didn't let them play accelerated softball. Both are very good. One has a
softball scholarship and the other will get one. She is already being recruited
as a sophomore. We didn't do this so they could get scholarships or
because I was a failure at sports when I was young. We do it because they want
to. Why do all of you think you know what is best for everyone else?
Girls sports | 4:11 p.m. June 24, 2008
I have a daughter who has played soccer (Premier) and basketball (Super League)
at a very high level both in state and at regional events around the country.
The joy I get out of watching her excell at what she wants to be doing is
unmatched and do not have a problem paying top dollar for her to be a part of
these programs. The confidence she has not only on the floor or field but in
life that I believe has been helped by her being a part of competitive sports.
It has been a great ride and hope it continues for many more years.
sports mom | 4:17 p.m. June 24, 2008
if you have a athletic child after a while get bored and don't get better
unless they play with better competition. IT is well worth it if they truely
love the sport. We have still been able to do two competitive sports and still
have the love of playing
From a "kid" | 4:20 p.m. June 24, 2008
I'm 19 years old now, but starting when i was 13 i entered into competitive
soccer. I played on a club theam that cost my parents thousands and thousands
each year just so i could play a game. Looking back at it, here are a few
suggestions to parents.
First off, let the kid chose what he/she wants to do. Yes, you can seek out the offers and whatnot, but let him/her make the final decission.
Secondly (assuming they enter into sports) always leave the door open to leave. My dad was great at this, whenever i got down he would just say "well, do you want to continue doing this. It is only a game, and you dont have to do it."
Thirdly (and VERY IMPORTANT) dont tell your kids about the financial struggles that come with their choice. I remember my parents telling me how my soccer was not allowing our family to travel as much as before, and i felt like i had done them wrong by playing. Tell them the consequences of playing, but never make it seem like the sport is taking anything away from the family. Be honest with them.
First off, let the kid chose what he/she wants to do. Yes, you can seek out the offers and whatnot, but let him/her make the final decission.
Secondly (assuming they enter into sports) always leave the door open to leave. My dad was great at this, whenever i got down he would just say "well, do you want to continue doing this. It is only a game, and you dont have to do it."
Thirdly (and VERY IMPORTANT) dont tell your kids about the financial struggles that come with their choice. I remember my parents telling me how my soccer was not allowing our family to travel as much as before, and i felt like i had done them wrong by playing. Tell them the consequences of playing, but never make it seem like the sport is taking anything away from the family. Be honest with them.
From a "kid" part 2 | 4:25 p.m. June 24, 2008
4th on my list: be supportive. make it to as many, if not all the games your
child plays in. Nothing was more rewarding then celebrating with my family, and
nothing was more comforting then sulking with their support.
5th: If your kid wants to play in college, help them seek out the scholarships, but make sure they do the bulk of the work. Have your child write the letters, make a film, get a profile, etc. Help them along the way, but dont just do it for them. Teach them that you have to "earn" it, it wont just come.
6th, Always be positive with them. Constructive criticism is good, but also remember you ARE NOT THE COACH. let the coaches get on the players, you just support them and make suer they are happy.
7th, as cheesy as this sounds it really is nice, tell your kids you love them before and after games. Give them a hug or whatever it is you do. Make sure they know you love them.
Club and high school sports can be expensive, yes, but very rewarding. If your kid wants to do it, dont be the bad guy that says no
5th: If your kid wants to play in college, help them seek out the scholarships, but make sure they do the bulk of the work. Have your child write the letters, make a film, get a profile, etc. Help them along the way, but dont just do it for them. Teach them that you have to "earn" it, it wont just come.
6th, Always be positive with them. Constructive criticism is good, but also remember you ARE NOT THE COACH. let the coaches get on the players, you just support them and make suer they are happy.
7th, as cheesy as this sounds it really is nice, tell your kids you love them before and after games. Give them a hug or whatever it is you do. Make sure they know you love them.
Club and high school sports can be expensive, yes, but very rewarding. If your kid wants to do it, dont be the bad guy that says no
Seriously Insane Soccer Dad | 4:31 p.m. June 24, 2008
Yeah, my daughter's premiere soccer team went to Hawaii for the regional
tournament...cost for my daughter, me and my wife? $5,500.00. We spent over
$5,000.00 last year on soccer for her teams alone (she played on two age rosters
within the same club). BUT we also spent almost as much for one
daughter's Cello lessons and trips, and about the same amount for another
daughters Debate tournaments and camps. Is it worth it? Don't know yet,
but they work hard of their own initiative...and since we can afford it, we
support them in this way. TIME is really the biggest expense!
From a "kid" part 3 | 4:33 p.m. June 24, 2008
it paid off for me. I can look at soccer, and the years i have had with it, and
see the repsonsibility, time management, honesty (somewhat), etc. that i took
from the beautiful game. I ended up receiving a scholarship to play, i am very
happy with it, and love the game still.
oh, and one last thing that parents should always remember. ACADEMICS COME FIRST!!! i can count numerous kids i knew that had the talent to play at some of the top programs in the nation, but because they were not as talented in the classroom they did not receive the reward.
always always always make sure that ACADEMICS COME FIRST!
oh, and one last thing that parents should always remember. ACADEMICS COME FIRST!!! i can count numerous kids i knew that had the talent to play at some of the top programs in the nation, but because they were not as talented in the classroom they did not receive the reward.
always always always make sure that ACADEMICS COME FIRST!
busy parent | 5:44 p.m. June 24, 2008
I have son that plays competitive soccer and basketball. They have taught him a
lot. They have taught him leadership, getting along with others, how to deal
with disappointment, and helping others. It also has gave him a chance to
travel. As a nineth grader this last year he was able to make the JV basketball
and soccer team which he loved and he wouldn't have been able to do this
without this great training of coaches and playing in competitive games.
Real shame | 9:54 p.m. June 24, 2008
Kids from families who cannot afford all of this offseason stuff end up not
having the chance to play high schools sports. Parents are now buying a spot on
teams for their children, and often the most talented never get a chance because
they can't pay for what really is required offseason participation by high
school coaches.
all about money | 1:05 p.m. June 27, 2008
I have had 2 daughters play both volleyball and soccer at the Premier level.
Both sports are REALLY expensive but I would have to say soccer is the most
expensive. One of the reasons soccer is so much is because it is year round and
second if you are a Utah County resident there are NO UTAH COUNTY club teams at
the Premier level. You have to travel to Salt Lake 3-4 times per week at $4 per
gallon of gas!!! The experience is good and bad I guess for girls. If the girl
is LDS then say good-bye to the young womens program + EFY. No time for either
especially the older your daughter gets. Is it worth it?? No, I would say
probably not overall but what can you do? If your girls have talent you
can't hold them back. I wish sports in general would be de-emphasized in
high school and college for girls but I am afraid that trend is going in the
opposite direction. My daughters are both very skilled athletes (especially my
youngest) so I just hope in the end something good comes from all this!!!
If I could do it over ... | 1:15 p.m. June 27, 2008
If I could do it over I would steer my daughters away from expensive, time
consuming sports like soccer, basketball or volleyball and push them toward
track and field or swimming. If your daughter is an athlete then she can play
any sport and track is SO great for several reasons....
1. It is more individual
2. It is VERY inexpensive both time and money compared to the other big three girls sports.
3. It allows for a life outside of sports.
4. You can still get a scholarship in college
Swimming is more expensive but I think is still quite reasonable compared to the other big three.
oh well, hind site is always 20-20 I guess.
1. It is more individual
2. It is VERY inexpensive both time and money compared to the other big three girls sports.
3. It allows for a life outside of sports.
4. You can still get a scholarship in college
Swimming is more expensive but I think is still quite reasonable compared to the other big three.
oh well, hind site is always 20-20 I guess.
Sports out of control | 1:34 p.m. June 27, 2008
From a dad who has put all his sons through club and high school baseball and
all his daughters through club and high school volley ball and soccer I can
honestly say that SPORTS is out of control in our society! I played college
baseball for Utah Valley State College and my older brother played for BYU so
ours is a very athletic family. I have watched the escalation of club sports and
how they literally consume our kids now-a-days year round. There is NO time off,
period! Try to take time off and you lose your spot on the team because there
is always some other desperate parent trying to cram their kids into the next
level and will pay ANY amount to do it. If you are LDS then say good-bye to
scouts and young women. Say good-bye to EFY and youth conferences. Our kids are
becoming products of the sports - system and are missing the other VERY
important experiences that will ultimately create for them the foundation for
life. BALANCE is never mentioned anymore when your kids get swept into the world
of athletic clubs!
Utah County has Premier club | 3:45 p.m. June 27, 2008
Celtic Storm is a premier level club in Utah county with one state champion last
year, 2 finalists and numerous semi-finalists. In addition, the last four years
Celtic Storm has sent almost all of their Premier team players on to the college
level as well as some of their select team players. Many of them are currenlty
starting on their collegiate teams - Katie Larkin is playing with the U23
national team and Tamika Wilson was the Mountain West Conference player of the
year at Wyoming. Celtic Storm also costs less than other clubs. While other
clubs may have more state champions Celtic Storm has placed more players at the
collegiate level. Other clubs preach 100% placement in college when it is a
known fact that is not true.
re: If I could do it over ... | 3:52 p.m. June 27, 2008
Swimming is less time consuming and cheaper -- are you kidding? Swimmers
practice in the morning and afternoon almost everyday and costs $90 - $200 per
month for training. Then their are meet fees, etc.
Sorry Celtic | 5:35 p.m. June 27, 2008
You don't even want to compare the scholarships Avalanche has placed in
colleges across this country. I'm talking quality D-1 . Penn State,
Portland, Santa Clara, Pepperdine, SDSU, BYU, Utah, Utah State, UNLV, Stanford,
Colorado, USC, with many more to come. Avalanche has more national team players
than any other club period. Including an alumni that just won the NCAA for USC.
Please don't talk about how Celtic Storm has more scholarships unless your
talking about Salt Lake community. And your right Celtic doesn't win many
state titles.
Celtic is Premier | 6:46 p.m. June 27, 2008
What Avalanche player currently plays for Stanford? - they have a student there
but not an actual college player. I never claimed that Celtic Storm was the
best club in the state but the club has placed players in college and is among
the top clubs in the state. As far as college players Celtic Storm has over 60
in the past 4 years and at schools such as Washington, Gonzaga, BYU, Utah, New
Mexico, Santa Clara, etc. and some at lesser schools like Dixie State and
BYU-Hawaii (None at Salt Lake Community College). According to the Avalanche
Website, Avalanche has about 60 college players some playing at D-1 schools like
USC, BYU, Portland etc. but others at powerhouses like Angelo State, Southern
Virginia, etc. I was just stating facts and the facts are Celtic Storm is a
Premier club and it is in Utah County. It is in the same category with
Avalanche, Sparta, LaRoca, etc. None of these clubs has placed 100% of their
players in college as Avalanche claims they have but are all Premier level clubs
with top teams in most age groups.
from another slc club | 11:16 p.m. June 27, 2008
Let it be known... Avalanche directors, coaches and trainers lie to parents
about college scholarships to get them to join their club... glad to see many
people catching on ... good luck to all clubs other than avalanche
the truth! | 12:31 a.m. June 28, 2008
name me any club with the quality scholarships that Avalanche players get to
real soccer schools. If your good enough you'll get a scholarship if not
you won't. Avalanche has produced more college All Americans than any other
club, more national team players, the U-18 team headed to college this year have
100% scholarship offers and has beaten every club team in the state easily. They
just beat mighty Celtic Storm last week 7-1. That's like 70-10 in a
football game. Don't talk smack if you can't back it up. If I'm a
college coach offering scholarships what team am I going to watch duh!.
Re:from another slc club | 12:33 a.m. June 28, 2008
So do you think your kid just has to show up and they get a scholarship. If you
haven't figured it out yet it's not the club it's the player. If
your dumb enough to think all you have to do is join a club and you get a
scholarship you deserve what you get.
Re. the truth | 12:40 p.m. June 28, 2008
Avalanche has a few players at top quality schools but for the most part (look
at the website) they are at schools like Baron College, Angelo State, Western
Wyoming Community College. By the way the mighty Celtic Storm team you are
referring to is 1 team not the entire club. The facts are Celtic Storm has more
players playing college soccer. I'm not talking smack all I am doing is
stating the facts. The Avlanche camp flyer states that they have placed 68 out
of 68 players in college soccer (Alyssa Anglin is not playing college soccer so
there goes the supposed 100%, nor is Jamie Mayvety, etc.) which is not true - no
club has 100% placement rate it is impossible. A team may have it but not the
whole club. I agree the U18 team is an excellent team and they are all going to
college but so is the whole Celtic Storm team and if you look at the colleges
they are going to it is suprisingly similar - BYU, Utah State, etc. Only Keali
and Fernandez will go to better schools. If I'm a college coach I will
watch more than one team - duh.
LaRoca | 12:42 p.m. June 28, 2008
Avalanche better watch out because LaRoca won 3 state championships this year as
did Avalanche. Parents are getting smarter - you don't have to pay tons of
money, drive to Salt Lake, etc. to be on a good team. Players will also get
seen by college coaches. You don't have to play for Avalanche their are
other choices.
college all-american | 12:46 p.m. June 28, 2008
Katie Larkin is the only Utah player that made one of the three all-american
teams last year and she is a Celtic Storm alum. No Avalanche player has been
named All-American - all-West Region and freshmen all-american but not
All-american and their is a difference.
Re;College All American | 1:14 p.m. June 28, 2008
Katie Larkin plays for BYU who can't get out of the first round of the NCAA
to save their lives. They were beat badly this year and lost to Weber state in
the first round two years ago!. Give me a break, If you want to compare player
by player Avalanche to Celtic and what they have done lets do it. Yes Avalanche
has a first team freshman all American this year and an NCAA Champion, something
KL never did as a freshman and as far as an NCAA champion never will and in your
own words there is a difference!.. The only people you can talk about in Celtic
have been out of the club for 3 years. How bout something a little more recent.
Avalanche won the Disney tournament, They have won college showcase, and 2
year's ago won every state title but one. What has Celtic done, I already
know nothing!.
Re;Re; the truth | 1:28 p.m. June 28, 2008
Alyssa Anglin had a full ride to Uconn and turned it down when she was accepted
into Stanford. It's not Avalanches fault she didn't take the
scholarship. You keep saying the scholarshiops are similar
Penn State, Santa Clara former NCAA champions, Portland former NCAA Champions, Pepperdine, USC defending NCAA champions are not the same they are far better. Stop trying to claim Avalanche players that played one year for Celtic and had already recieved their scholarsips while playing for Avalanche. The bottom line is ya you can go to college but their is a big difference on where your going from Celtic to Avalance. Name me one true Celtic player that is at big time soccer school.
Penn State, Santa Clara former NCAA champions, Portland former NCAA Champions, Pepperdine, USC defending NCAA champions are not the same they are far better. Stop trying to claim Avalanche players that played one year for Celtic and had already recieved their scholarsips while playing for Avalanche. The bottom line is ya you can go to college but their is a big difference on where your going from Celtic to Avalance. Name me one true Celtic player that is at big time soccer school.
Your still not right | 2:11 p.m. June 28, 2008
Alyssa Anglin could have played college soccer I know but she didn't so
therefore, Avalanche does not have 100%. Other clubs also have players that
decide not to play college soccer and they don't count them as alumni
playing in college. I doubt seriously that Alyssa Anglin was offered a full
ride at Uconn when full rides are given very rarely - maybe with academic money
but not athletic. I also wonder why someone that had a full ride offer at Uconn
was taking a recruiting trip to South Carolina State pretty late in the game -
and I know this is true because she went on the trip with a player that I know.
Missing the point | 2:28 p.m. June 28, 2008
By the way this whole stupid argument has gotten a little out of hand - The
point was their is a Premier level club in Utah County, which means they have
teams in the Premier division and competing for state cup championships - yes
there are a few top players that have gone to top level programs but most
players in Utah are not that good and playing for a club that works to promote
their players regardless of the name of the club will get these girls playing
college soccer. Utah has a lot of soccer talent and it gets old hearing about
just Avalanche because there are good players at all of the clubs that have
moved on to the collegiate level. The best thing that could happen to soccer in
Utah is for more top clubs so that these teams have tougher competition in state
so that when they go to Regionals they actually have a chance to win.
Pepperdine | 2:33 p.m. June 28, 2008
is not a top program
avalanche :( | 2:43 p.m. June 28, 2008
Take it from someonoe who has been there. My daughter played for Avalanche for
multiple years and it couldn't have been a WORSE experience. Ya Avalanche
get's SOME girls scholarships, but the leaders of that club are really
about padding their own resumes. They will tell a College Coach anything to get
a scholarship, and I have been told by several sources that their credibility is
in the toliet because they build up a player to be something that their not.
Also, the club doesn't care about girls. Some of the things that I have
seen them do to young girls is amazing. Again, they are only about themselves.
And don't even get me started on money. Truth is, if your good,
you'll get a scholarship, you don't have to play for the Avalanche to
get one. As a matter of fact, you end up a much better PERSON by playing for
someone else when your not being coached by people who have a problem being
truthful. They coach by fear not by example. They do nothing to make these
girls better people. Bottom line, changing clubs was the best thing we ever
did, and yes we got a scholarship!!!!
Re;avalanche | 4:04 p.m. June 28, 2008
You can hear the same thing from every club, there are Sparta girls trnafering
to Avalanche and Avalanche girls transfering to Celtic or Sparta etc. The best
players from each club rarely transfer. Are you saying college coaches are so
stupid they can't tell if a player is good or not.
Much better person?, what a joke.
Much better person?, what a joke.
Like everything else | 4:08 p.m. June 28, 2008
The best team's are always the most hated! Go Avalanche
Actually.. | 5:11 p.m. June 28, 2008
2 years ago Avalanche won every state title but 3, NOT all but 1 and they have
won less every year since. In 2008 they won 3 titles and so did LaRoca and I
expect more from them and Sparta in the years to come.
re re from another club | 5:45 p.m. June 28, 2008
wasn't talking about how players perform once with a club... simply stating
the fact that avalanche lies incessently about how they'll guarantee kids a
scholarship and 100% placement as a marketing tool to atract players and parents
who don't do their research. They openly lie about college placement and
unfortunately people believe it... glad to see Sparta, La Roca coming on strong
and not falling for the lies
betraying their players | 5:58 p.m. June 28, 2008
Funny how girls at these so called top schools avalanche is taking credit for
(Santa Clara, Portland, Penn St) had such a great experience with avalanche that
they had to find a new coach in the middle of the season and were denied a
chance to compete in state cup and regionals as U17's by the very club they
had trained for and were so loyal to for years... obviously those girls would
leave avalanche
grateful soccer mom | 6:27 p.m. June 28, 2008
as a parent who knows, celtic storm actually has had several players who
received college scholarships that were on fee waivers for the majority of
expenses. At Storm it's not all about the money and providing a living for
their coaches, instead its about helping the girls get the opportunity to play
college. All I can say is Storm has fulfilled that promise in every way. I as a
parent am so grateful for storm and their coaches for the opportunity they gave
my daughter to get to college
Re; betraying their players | 11:37 p.m. June 28, 2008
Get your facts straight they failed to register for state cup it had nothing to
do with Avalanche. Celtic couldn't wait to get those Avalanche players
because they knew they were so much better than their own. As a matter of fact
they cut several Celtic players that had been loyal to Celtic Storm all those
years.
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