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The LDS Church, as well as all Churches, should mind their own business and not try to impose their will on others. Seriously, can anybody come up with a halfway intelligent argument on who this would affect the LDS Church or it's members? If you are a member of said church, and you want to marry someone of the same sex, by then all means, please do so. Just don't expect your homophobic church to support your decision.
for all the gay California people to start coming out of the woodwork to comment on this.
Go Constitutional Amendment to ban gay marriage - go democracy -
boo crazy activist judges in Cali
I believe the article contains an error. The referendum in 2000 was not a constitutional amendment or the court could not have ruled it unconstitutional. It must have been added to the state code or statutes. That's why a constitutional amendment is necessary now, so the justices of the supreme court cannot rule it unconstitutional in the future.
Surprise, surprise. Now, go and do as your told. Baaa Baaa Baaa!
If you think the California Supreme Court was composed of "activist judges" you really ought to go find out a fact or two...that is, if you can accept facts in your life. The CSC is mostly composed of Republican-appointed Republicans. Ironic, isn't it?
As for the LDS church getting involved in political acts of bigotry, well...I'll just say that when it came to putting up or shutting up, the Mormons weren't abolitionists, they weren't feminists, they weren't against child labor, they weren't...need I go on? I think the world knows where the LDS church stands on most social issues.
There's a separation of church and state for a reason. Marriage in this country is civil legal proceeding when it comes down to it. A civil legal document is necessary to become married, and a civil legal document is necessary to dissolve the marriage. Marriage is NOT by definition in this country a religious proceeding. Religion needs to stay out of it.
We LDS church members in California welcome the church's encouragement, support, guidance, and common ground with us to support the religious institution of marriage as a union between a man and a woman. It's about safety and security for children and for parents. Not the misdirected redefinintion that's being forced on us, thru government intervention. The 5 California justices who tried to justify their ruling with extrapolated theories are the people who need to mind their own business, and read the Bill of Rights, and stick to gov't business. We the people of California have voted, 60-40, already, in favor of keeping marriage what it is, a man / woman union. I expect we can restate that 60-40, clearly, for those who think they need to legislate religion.
This just in: The LDS Church is standing up for what they believe......details at 6.
Amazing! Shocking!
I bet they do this on purpose, just to get the antis all fired up. I bet the LDS leadership sits around all day and thinks of ways to get you all whipped up into a frenzy.
The Church has the constitutional right to express its views on any moral issue it chooses. There is no attempt to impose anything on anybody; this is about encouraging members to exercise their democratic duty. By doing this the Church is in fact minding its own business. Marriage and the family and the preservation of our civilization are the Church's business.
Yes, I agree. The Church of Jesus Christ should mind its own business! All churches, including the LDS Church, have a right to speak out on moral issues, even if you don't agree with them. Even the ACLU has sided with the LDS Church on its right to speak out on moral issues affecting the community. If the LDS Church is not allowed to speak out on issues, should Move-on.org or the GLBT Alliance be allowed to speak out on any issue? The Leftists are hypocritical. They claim to believe in free speech, but if you disagree with them, they will use every strategem to silence you. Isn't this what the Communists and Nazis did? Support the U.S. Constitution per the original intent. Support a Constitutional admendment supporting God-ordained marriage! Thank-You
The boo-birds with their evil propensities are coming out in droves.
As far a gay marriage is concerned they can live together, procreation might be a little tough, but that's OK. Just don't call it marriage OR expect me to approve it.
I don't want my kids or grandkids getting any idea that gay marriage is acceptable. To me and other LDS members like me, we can use political mehtods to push our wishes just as the gay community does.
Where does it say that LDS get no voice in the affairs of their state?
Is that in the
Thumb-Suckers-Whiny-Baby Manual?
Please give a reference.
Churches have every right to speak out on issues of moral consequence and certainly the definition of marriage is one of them. No one is attempting to silence the gay right advocates and their desire to impose their will on the vast majority of Americans who oppose gay marriage.
I knew this was coming, it happened before.
Looks like the LDS church just can't keep it's nose out of the political arena. ANd they say the church doesn't tell it's members how to vote. Isn't this EXACTLY the opposite action????
Oh, wait, I forgot...that's different.
C'mon people, start justifying the church's actions, start quoting the same scriptures you ALWAYS fall back on that proove NOTHING.
Here, let me get the ball rolling: "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."
Christian churches that remain true to the Judeo-christian principles found in the Bible cannot avoid teaching and advocating God's pronouncements against homosexuality, any more than they could avoid teaching and advocating in any other spiritual or religious matter. That is a church's divinely mandated reponsibility.
Because some churches have strayed does not mean their straying is divinely approved. Churches also sprang up in Book of Mormon times which "did administer that which was sacred unto him to whom it had been forbidden".
>>"not try to impose their will on others"<<
Who do we think we are, anyway?
California Judges?
@VOR
Get a clue. A church that preaches its doctrine is doing exactly as you suggest 'mind(ing) its own business'. Marriages are sanctioned by and performed in churches as a central tenet of most faiths.
The reason that churches have a vested interest in this particular issue is that it would only be a small step from the CA court ruling to compelling churches to recognize/perform same-sex marriages. A church certainly has a right and obligation to protect the doctrine of the faith, even if (or maybe especially if) the issue is being debated in the public forum
Amen, LDS Church.
This is a directive to all Mormon members to vote a certain way on a political issue.
They didn't say study the issue, get involved in your comunity and vote according to your moral continence.
This was a directive from a non-profit to its members to vote as their told.
IRS, are you listening?
"Activist judge" is code for "liberal," and as Flattop pointed out, there is a conservative majority (6 to 3, I think) sitting on the CA Supreme Court bench. These ain't you're tree-huggin, CA hippies that came down with this decision.
Also, endorsing political positions and candidates from the pulpit/stand can put a religious organization in a bad place with the IRS. Just sayin'
Oh, and good for teh gheyz!
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