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Baby left in hot car in Layton dies

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CJ | 11:35 p.m. June 23, 2008

There is no punishment in this world, that could be worse than losing a child this mother will live with the pain for her entire life! I'm so sad for the entire family. May we all learn from this mistake and prevent it from ever happening again. God Bless.

Re: Copy Cats | 7:01 p.m | 11:50 p.m. June 23, 2008

So do you really think that this mother copied another case of a child forgotten in the car? I just can't believe your comment.

Actually, I can't believe half of the comments on here. The ones that say things like, "It's impossible to forget your child in the car".

Everyone is different. Don't assume that a person COULD not forget. Because there are very few people out there who would purposely do that to their child. Do YOU know anyone who would want to leave their child in a hot car to die on purpose? I don't.

Kaylea | 12:30 a.m. June 24, 2008

I am that parent who has been blessed to watch over several children. I am not perfect, my house is not neat and tidy, sometimes my children aren't either.

Children wander away get curious - get hurt and sometimes die. Sometimes, as a parent I get caught up in the moment of whatever I am doing, so many tasks to complete - so little time. We do it at work and at home.

Mistakes are made - lessons are learned. That was her child. This mistake I am certain, was not done on purpose. Those of you who look at her mistake with such a firm opinion on what her punishment should be - should perhaps look further. Look in the mirror and imagine for just a moment if this was you - would jail time fix your mistake. Would it lighten your burden?

Truly - without comment - take just a moment and put yourself in her shoes. And then make eye contact with all your children to make sure they are not out on an adventure they shouldn't be on. You wouldn't want to carry a similar burden.

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Belgie | 1:07 a.m. June 24, 2008

We prosecute and punish people who break laws for two reasons: 1) to attempt to extract some sort of restitution, when possible, and 2) to discourage future violations. In this case, there can be no restitution, and putting this lady in jail will not serve to discourage negligence in the future.

To send this lady to jail because we believe she "deserves" it is vindictive and hateful. God will hold you accountable for such attitudes.

boiseguy | 4:20 a.m. June 24, 2008

same could be said for anyone else out there that kills someone and is later sorry for it. Should they not be put in prison? I think the life of another person, certainly your child is more important than all of your busy housewife tasks.. I don't buy that excuse. Sure a fault was made... and it may haunt her for the rest of her life, but just because she is a mother with too much on her plate doesn't give her a free get out of jail card. Her actions killed someone.. period. you can't tell x to go to jail and let y be excused because she's a housewife with too many kids. Perhaps birth control would have been a more responsible option on her part. If your housewife/mother tasks are so difficult and draining that you forget about your BABY in your car.. you got some issues, or you need to quit using your jay-jay like a clown car.

Bob G | 4:24 a.m. June 24, 2008

Any time a parent loses a child by neglect or accident the parent always suffers the most and punish themselves the rest of their days. The stresses of parenting these days with the fast and furious lifestyles we are living in it doesn't surprise me when this happens. This is not a case of being an abusive or neglectful parent, it just proves how unstable home and family life is. We are so used to having others care for our children that we give little thought to their well being all the time. If something changes in a routine we are used to performing our rote lifestyles are why these things happen. We see children drowning in pools and rivers and hit by cars when they run into the street or go behind them in driveways, and the parents are close at hand. Babysitters are temporary care givers who must adapt to every child and parents behaviors they care for, yet sometimes they are persecuted beyond reason if something happens. These are all accidents and life is always a risk with unforseen perils even with a constant vigil. Right now this woman is her own jailer and prosecutor.

momof7 | 4:41 a.m. June 24, 2008

Even if I have melted ice cream in the car, my babies in carseats are always out first. I'm not saying I am perfect, but living in Texas, I know first hand as a family in our stake had a child die like this. That little girl was "forgotten"... father thought older children were getting her out... older children thought father was getting her out. So sad. Charges were brought against the father, but then dropped. I have forgotten a son, age 6, before. But it was at McD's and he was playing at the N64, and I totally forgot him (good thing he never knew... I lived minutes from the McD's, so I was able to get back before he missed me...), but what would have happened if he did go looking for me? It just makes me shutter that I could have been so negligence.
BOTTOM LINE: Always get your children out first, NO MATTER WHAT!

Carole Knowles | 4:50 a.m. June 24, 2008

The mother must be devastated.
Now put her in prison for a long time. This little child was tortured to death.

Jared | 5:18 a.m. June 24, 2008

On my first day of law school, we looked at 12 cases of children dying in cars. The facts surrounding each were different and ranged from kids wandering out into cars and getting locked in when no one knew to mothers doing drugs in a hotel room while the children roasted in cars. The point of the exercise was to get us thinking about the culpability of the parent/caregiver in each case. Since then, I have often thought back about that discussion and I am still not sure where to place the blame on cases that fall somewhere in the middle like this one.

I am also scarred for life by that discussion. My wife was about four months pregnant at the time and after reading each fact pattern, I imagined myself doing something like that. Luckily, that hasn't happened so far, but I still can't be quick to judge someone who just made a mistake, albeit a serious one.

a thought | 5:44 a.m. June 24, 2008

Regardless of whether or not this mother should be prosecuted, I think it is in the best interest of the children in Utah to have a law in place to protect them. The law that would make it illegal to leave a child under a certain age unattended in a car. Why is this not illegal now?

Or perhaps as someone mentioned: EDUCATION! When I was a young mother, I was appalled to learn that my dear friend (also a good and well-intentioned mother) thought it was perfectly okay to leave a sleeping baby in the car while she did a "quick" trip to the grocery store. It is easier, yes -- but not safe. It may not prevent every death, but it may prevent more.

Jay | 6:14 a.m. June 24, 2008

Remember, the Lord laid down two foundational laws, which appear to have escaped some of the posters here (perhaps they "forgot"). Those laws are:

1) Mercy cannot rob justice.

2) The law of ACCOUNTABILITY.

Regardless of what we want or think, these two LAWS will be exercised on that "great and dreadful day."

Dog | 6:37 a.m. June 24, 2008

Can mercy rob justice?

She should be required to tell her story over and over again to appropriate groups. That could help other parents. The state could even put her on a billboard like the one where the sad looking lady says "Hit(kill?) a pedestrian, change your life"
or have her and others who have done that make a video. We all need to be reminded--over and over.

Jail seems inappropriate. She is changed forever as are those close to her. Just leaving it does not seem enough.

To somehow get the word out to others with her help seems a more positive approach.

Someone else forgotten by parent | 6:45 a.m. June 24, 2008

Didn't Joseph and Mary "forget" Jesus at the temple? They thought he was with their caravan for some time, but didn't realize that he actually wasn't.
It didn't sound like a normal situation in that they were worried and looked in the wrong places. From their response, it didn't seem so safe losing a 12 yo boy back then either.

Just saying...if they could lose track, assume, and forget to check, I think it's possible for anyone to.

Anger | 6:48 a.m. June 24, 2008

Lot's of anger and outrage here. This is a terrible tragedy. What amazes me is how uniformly outraged is at the loss of a child - but how divided we are as a people on the murder of a child before it is born. Why is is that once a child is born we can all recognize how terrible it is to loose one, but before a child is born many of us feel that it can be 'terminated' due to the 'rights' of the mother?

Martine Smith | 6:48 a.m. June 24, 2008

To all of you anonymous stone throwers, I'm just horrified by your judgmental attitude. Some parents knowingly leave a child in a car seat unattended because of convenience; they should be prosecuted. I believe anyone could get distracted and forget a sleeping child in the back seat of a car. When I had my kids it was still legal to have the car seat in the front seat so this didn't happen.

I just hope all of you self-righteous perfect people will never have the same judgment you judge with meted out to you.

Runnerboy3118 | 7:10 a.m. June 24, 2008

I have the hardest time thinking she forgot him out there. All you who think she doesn't need to be put in jail need to think about how you would feel if someone ran a red light and t-boned you and killed you child. If there only defence was that he forgot that you are supossed to stop at a red light would you think that they have suffered enough cause he feels bad. This really makes me upset that anyone would be defending this woman, I know she must be in her personal hell. But that child died, sat in a hot car for 2.5 hours. I have been in 120 degree heat in Vegas laying concrete, its not fun, but at least I could get a drink.

anon | 7:13 a.m. June 24, 2008

I have left my child in the car TWICE while at home, unloading groceries, tending the other kids, etc. Both times were in the evening and I thought it was cool enough. And both times I returned to the car for my child to find him sweating and somewhat overheated. Now I am more careful. Mothers have to balance things all day, every day. And sometimes they mess up. Especially if they are on medication or severely sleep-deprived. I feel so bad for this woman, but I don't condemn her.

Telelah | 7:50 a.m. June 24, 2008

First of all don't ever say you would never, because chances are you likely will. I knew a Father who was extremely safety conscious of his children. You could not find a better father. His wife usually took the baby to daycare, but one day for the first time he was taking her. He had a lot going on that day, and forgot he had the child in the car. Luckily it was not too hot that day and he remembered the baby was in the car. He was not irresponsible, unloving, or uncaring. He was horrified that he forgot, but it happens to the best of us. Never Judge others, not even when you think you have been in their shoes, because a person can never truly be in another persons shoes.

Anonymous | 8:21 a.m. June 24, 2008

No parent should bury his/her child. I can't imagine this woman's pain being responsible of her child's death. Justice will do what it has to do. The Lord will do whatever He thinks He should do. We are none to judge but we are to forgive. Most at all, we are to learn a lesson from this. Hopefully this will be an eye opener to parents to be extra careful with their kids.

k d | 8:22 a.m. June 24, 2008

I am saddened and amazed at the number of critical, condemning and harshly judgmental comments posted here. May every one of those people one time , forget their child in the car, just for a few moments, so they can gain an ounce of understanding and empathy for this mother. Many years ago, I tended my niece and nephew while my sister and her husband ran errands with their baby. When they returned, a short time later, they were both shaken up to the point of tears. They had BOTH forgot about the baby and left him in the car for about 45 minutes while they were in a store. The baby was fine, but they weren't. This was devastating to all of us and I felt nothing but compassion for them and relief that the baby was ok. They were haunted by this for days, thinking,''What if...?'' Now with this recent story, my sister and I both find it incredible that so many people can treat this poor mother so horribly with their condemnation.''That could have been me.'' my sister sadly stated yesterday. And by the way, my sister is one of the best moms to be found.

Heartless Hypocrits... | 8:42 a.m. June 24, 2008

are people who can't discern between a forgetful act, albeit with tragic consequences, and a willful act of negligence.

Those who say they have never forgotten anything important in their life are liars.

They're just lucky that their forgetfulness never had such tragic consequences.

The mother has already suffered enough. She deserves our prayers and our sympathy, not the hate and revenge expressed by some of the bloggers here.

No good can come either to the victim or to society from prosecuting this loving mother because of a tragic accident caused by simple forgetfulness.

You should be ashamed of yourselves for having such hate in your heart.

Confused | 9:04 a.m. June 24, 2008

I guess I'm confused as to why the "friend" never asked about the baby. How do you show up to someoneï¿½s house, them knowing you had a child just a short time ago and them not ask about the baby? How does that baby not cross your mind or enter a conversation at least once during a 2 hour visit? How hard is it to take the carrier out of the car and bring it along with you? If it's too big of a burden then donï¿½t have children at all. How pathetic! I feel so much sadness for the rest of the baby's family. Peace be with you.

@ heartless hypocrites | 9:27 a.m. June 24, 2008

Did you really just call it "simple forgetfulness"?

Wow. I've heard more justification for this horrific act than I would like to already, but that takes the cake.

What, exactly, is so simple about it? This kind of cavalier attitude towards GROSS NEGLECTFUL PARENTING is exactly how these things continue to happen.

This issue needs to be treated with the appropriate amount of contempt (notice I am not calling for the Mother to be condemned, just her actions) in order to serve as a warning to parents in the future.

It can not be thought of as even remotely acceptable to leave your children in the car for any length of time under any circumstances. If they are not first in your thoughts, then you need to take a hard look at where your priorities are.

Bottom line.

Exhausted | 9:40 a.m. June 24, 2008

I can't help but think of the many times that I have been exhausted beyond my ability to do what I was expected to do...yet I kept going because that is what "mother" must do. I kept house, made meals, washed clothes, nursed the sick (kids and self), cleaned wounds, read stories, taught lessons, ran errands, took kids to required places, dealt with schooling for better or worse, took care of the dog and cat, took care of the cars, took care of the yard, took care of my husband, did birthday parties, volunteered. My list can keep going...did I do this all for me and was I sometimes cornered into doing these things? Yes. We all do our best and we help others to do their best. We give give give and love love love. And so it should be. Energy and mind can run short at times and we should make sure our compassion does not. This family needs prayers and love. This mom was doing her best. God bless her and her family.

Ratman | 10:17 a.m. June 24, 2008

How terribly sad for the family. My deepest condolences to them. It just demonstrates the long-term consequences of a momentary lapse of judgement, of which most of us are vulnerable. I just hope the temptation of some to write a self-righteous blog can be restrained, which would serve only to add more pain to the family. However, facing judicial consequences for negligence is also an appropriate result of a critial, life-ending error.

Anonymous | 11:44 a.m. June 24, 2008

You who say this could never happen to you, I hope you never, ever make a mistake that harms another person. I hope you never hit a pedestrian who steps in front of your car, or back up and run over a child who is playing behind your vehicle.

You say this could never happen? I am protective to the point of crazy sometimes with my four children. Yet last summer, I forgot my own sleeping son in the car for about 2 minutes. He was in the backseat, and was not normally with me during the 30 minute drive I had to make to the doctor's office. Luckily my husband met me at the hospital, and asked where the kids were (they were usually with a babysitter). I sobbed for several days about my forgetfulness and what COULD have happened. I was hysterical to near vomiting, and still feel that when I think of the situation.

Do not cast stones at this woman, unless she was neglectful on a daily basis. She will suffer for the rest of her life for her mistake. Imprisioning her will do no good to anyone involved.

Vitriol and Hate | 12:25 p.m. June 24, 2008

I have always looked at these forums as a place for hatemongers and hypocrites to voice their opinion and then just go and live their lives never seeing the damage these comments do to the people affected. The hateful comments on this board and others have real effects in the lives of those people involved with this tragedy. Cast your stones, but I believe that some day in this life or the next you will see how misinformed your comments condemning the mother are, and you will be able to see the results of your comments as far as damaging a wonderful woman, who suffered the loss of a child due to a parental mistake and now has to get up every day with this and provide for her other children. These boards are a forum for hate, religious bigotry and uninformed banter that hurt others. What is the point?

Heard of the Golden Rule? | 2:43 p.m. June 24, 2008

The critical comments on this sight are unbelievable! Have these people never heard of treating someone the way they would want to be treated in the same situation? Probably not, because they think they are incapable of ever making such mistakes. I hope that the mother of this baby and her family and close friends NEVER read any of these awful comments. Who ARE these people full of judgment and intolerance? They will be judged with the same degree of judgment that they deal out to others. Shame on them for being compassionateless humans.

It's hot in here! | 3:19 p.m. June 24, 2008

If it weren't for global warming, this mother would still be holding her child...

million dollar babies | 10:09 p.m. June 24, 2008

Treat your children as you would a million dollars in cash and these tragedies will cease to happen. She needs to be held accountable. Forgetting your helpless infant for hours is not the same as forgetting to drop off a library book. the consequences are far greater and if parents were required to serve some time in jail it would remind others to be more careful. When I lived in Utah, I had neighbors who would leave babies and toddlers home alone sleeping (or so they hoped) while they ran errands. I was appalled, but they thought it was okay because others did it and that made it okay. When Utah adopts a zero tolerancer attitude toward this type of negligence you'll see things change and then maybe Utah won't have 20% of these tragedies. That is appalling in a state that should cherish it's children. Actions speak louder than words.

to AL | 10:33 p.m. June 24, 2008

I agree totally with you. I grew up in Utah and now live in California. I am absolutely appalled at the negligence that goes on in Utah. Toddlers roaming the streets with no adult in sight, babies being left home while mommy runs errands. utah society thinks it's acceptable to many do it. By the way, I'm active LDS. This is not condemning the church, just the poor parenting of many in utah., i have relatives who let 6 years olds drive Not kidding. just recently a young girl was killed in utah by a 14 year old behind the wheel. when i was a kid my best friends baby brother died after being run over by his 12 year old brother. a neighbor left her preschoolers home sleeping while she ran errands. they woke up and took a kitchen knife and stabbed a package she'd rec'd that day. She was upset because the Homemaking kits she'd ordered were ruined, not the fact her kids could have stabbed each other. i could go on and on and on. pathetic. i have kids and grandkids and i know we all make mistakes as parents but this is negligence not mistakes.

Duckman | 4:12 a.m. June 25, 2008

All you mothers out there, who claim to have also forgotten your child in the car, or someplace else.

Do me a quick favor plese, go check your car.

Then come back in, turn off your computers and watch your children.

let's be honest here | 6:58 a.m. June 25, 2008

anyone caring for small children can become distracted MOMENTARILY, thankfully with rarely a tragic outcome. If their priorities are straight, their thoughts will quickly return to that which is most important, the safety and well being of a precious, helpless little child. this was not a momentary distraction. This mother left her child in the oven, aka car for over TWO hours while she chatted with a friend. Until society stops coddling negligent parents, these types of tragedies will continue to happen. Would people be so sympathetic if she left her dog in the car and it died? Sadly, no. they would be screaming animal cruelty. No living thing deserves to die that way, especially due to a parent's neglect. too many people treat forgetting to return a library book with the same seriousness as forgetting about your helpless baby. stop giving these people a get out of jail card because they've already suffered. What about the unspeakable and totally needless suffering the baby experienced. Babies don't die from being left for extremely brief time such as a minute or two. Death doesn't come quickly to them. It needs to stop.

sadforall | 10:52 a.m. June 25, 2008

WC, your words are senseless. Come back to reality.
I cannot understand how the mother forgot her child for 2 hours! It is totally unfathomable to me, a parent for over 22 years, who has never forgotten her children in a car or anywhere else. Safety has always been foremost in my mind as my children are my top priority. NEVER LEAVE A CHILD IN A CAR, WITH THE CAR ON OR OFF. If you get out, the child should get out whether it's one second or 10 hours. That's the best rule of thumb to live by. Yes, we all make mistakes but hopefully none so tragic that a child of our own or in our care dies. How senseless and what a tragedy to all. I have compassion for the mother and all the family, but most especially for the poor little baby. So sad and tragic. I do not believe the mother should go to jail (unless it was intentiona)but I do believe she needs to get serious help-NOONE could have a memory problem that bad. I hope she can forgive herself, I know I never could.

neglect plain and simple | 4:40 p.m. June 25, 2008

too many people equate neglect with cold, hungry, dirty children. this helpless baby was neglected and that is against the law. period. she should definitely be charged. the punishment can be left to a judge. community service and public service announcements would be effective. i firmly believe it will be a deterrent to stupidity. my niece left her small kids in the car with the motor running many times. TWICE her kids put it into gear and ran into a building. she tells the story like it is so funny. i'm grateful no one was seriously injured, especially those who were shopping in the store at the time. if she'd been punished the first time for stupidity, it wouldn't have happened again. she did it because she knew she could get away with it and it was easier to shop without her kids.

presence of mind | 3:33 a.m. June 26, 2008

They don't make Mothers like they used to.

DONT LEAVE THE CAR RUNNING! | 3:01 p.m. June 26, 2008

I read a comment above that said you should leave the car running in case your conversation gets too long. DONT LEAVE YOUR KID IN THE CAR, PERIOD. What if the car kills for some reason?

Anonymous | 4:26 p.m. June 26, 2008

This is a terrible tragedy but we have all forgotten something at one point in our lives. My prayers go out to the mother and the family of the child. I hope this story makes everyone more aware of where their children are.

John Lambert | 11:28 p.m. June 26, 2008

What I hope people would learn is do not leave the child in the car. Take the child in with you. If you absolutly must, than at least roll down the windows all the way. That way the temperature will not rise. However, I still say do not leave the child in the car alone.
I do not know the circumstances here, and so I can not say what should happen. I hope the authorities make the right decision. I just hope this article will cause parents to realize that it is not wise to leave children in cars. Take the child in first, then the groceries or whatever. It is better to have milk spoil than a child hurt.

torn | 12:50 a.m. June 27, 2008

Yes, this happens very often. Luckily in Utah we only have to worry about it during the summer months. Which is why we are constantly reminded on the news and radio stations that it is getting hot and not to leave our children or pets in our automobiles. Unfortunately this was just an accident and neglect was at fault. It's hard to say what should happen to this woman, because in all reality she is responsible for this baby. These children come to the world helpless and their parents...especially Mothers are all they have to rely on. Her son couldn't roll the window down for fresh air or honk the horn to remind her he was still in the car so it is her who should be accountable for this tragedy. But will locking her up and throwing away the key be the real answer? She isn't a threat to me or anyone else. She made a bad decision and prison isn't what she deserves. We need laws that make people think twice. We need handbooks given to us when we have babies. We get pamphlets about SIDS and keeping stuffed animals out of our babies cribs...cont...

torn | 1:16 a.m. June 27, 2008

But we don't get information on other dangers that are lurking around the corners. Maybe our children do need to come with a handbook. If hospitals had a book that they could give you on the biggest and most occuring accidents and how to avoid them more children would survive their sometimes airheaded parents. My children are 6, 8 and 10 and I still check on them to make sure they are breathing in the middle of the night. I make sure the plugs in their room don't have paper around them or the heater isn't covered with flammable items. But I am not perfect. Neither was this mother. Maybe the way to hold her accountable for what has happened is to let her speak with other parents and let them see the horror she had to face due to her forgetfullness. Society allows former gang bangers to speak to active gang bangers and we feel it helps. Maybe requiring this mother to do community service by speaking to parents about this danger could help another tragedy like this from ever happening again. I don't think punishing her by doing time is going to help. Sorry this was so long.

RE: Torn | 9:54 a.m. June 27, 2008

Handbooks, license...something!

Clear Line | 11:44 a.m. June 27, 2008

File charges! Get the message out clear and strong that this kind of neglect and abuse will NOT be tolerated in our society! These innocent children's lives are being taken in horrible, torturous ways by stupid, selfish women and men who have no business reproducing! One of the penalties for this type of thing should be sterilization! These people should not be allowed to create any more children!

Cal Atty | 12:10 p.m. June 27, 2008

Hmmmm.....This is an example of a crime that IS prosecuted in other states (I live in CA). What is wrong with your legal system? Prosecuting attorneys failing to act along with the general population still believing that it is "safe" to leave kids unattended in the community, explains why this so frequently occurs in Utah. Something really needs to change for the better.

anonymous | 12:38 p.m. June 27, 2008

It amazes me how many people believe themselves to be perfect. Mothers have so many distractions and obligations. My son nearly drowned last year because of I got distracted with one of my other kids, luckily because I was constantly doing headcounts, he survived witth no permanent injuries. I can only imagine if that made the paper what the public would be saying about me. I actually know the mom here. it was an accident and unfortunately one she and her family have to live with. I hope all of you judgemental people never have to experience this kind of pain, but keep judging and you'll get to live with that sin "judge not less ye be judged". My prayers are with you Kamilyn May God bless you and your family!

Brain off, apparently... | 1:07 p.m. June 27, 2008

There really should be an intelligence test before people are allowed to have children...

No excuse | 1:08 p.m. June 27, 2008

>Mothers have so many distractions and obligations

Just like dads and everybody else in the world. If you're not smart enough to do it, DON'T FREAKING HAVE ANY KIDS!!!

Solution | 5:53 p.m. June 27, 2008

>What can car manufacturers do to help prevent such sad deaths?

Install a sensor to prevent stupid people from driving.

Anonymous | 7:04 p.m. June 27, 2008

For the people that are saying that God will hold people accountable for judging this woman the way they are, aren't you too judging? And isn't it actually worse to "decide" what GOD should do to people, than to "decide" what an earthly judge should do?

Everyone has different opinions. Get over it.

JESS | 10:52 p.m. July 2, 2008

HOW CAN WE JUST FORGET OUR BABIES IN THE BACKSEAT... IF U NEED TO GO TO THE STORE OR STEP OUT AT LEAST PUT THE WINDOWS HALF WAYS OR A BABY IN THE CARSEAT... LEAVE THE AIRCON ON....ITS TO SAD TO SEE A BABY DIE IN A CAR. OR AT LEAST TAKE AN ATTENDANT SO THEY CAN HOLD THE BABY OR WATCH THE BABY....... U AMERICANS R TO DUMB WHEN IT COMES TO CHILDREN, BUT TO SMART WHEN IT COMES TO POLITICS.
ALWAYS NEVER LEAVE A CHILD UNATTENDED IN THE CAR. I HAVE A SON AND HIS 18MONS OLD, GUESS WAT IM 18 YRS... BUT I MAKE SURE NOT TO LEAVE MY CHILD IN THA CAR IF I HAVE TO I OPEN THE WINDOWS AND TURN ON THE CHILD SAFE LOCK OF THE DOORS....

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